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Post by toomuchreality on Nov 15, 2023 15:59:50 GMT -5
I can't imagine carrying a baby until the 9th month and then saying, Oopsie! Just kidding!
A child WITHOUT ISSUES could most likely be born and it's life saved, at that point.
This is a ridiculous argument.
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Post by tallguy on Nov 15, 2023 16:28:25 GMT -5
I can't imagine carrying a baby until the 9th month and then saying, Oopsie! Just kidding! A child WITHOUT ISSUES could most likely be born and it's life saved, at that point. This is a ridiculous argument. That is the only kind that most right-wingers know how to make. |
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Post by toomuchreality on Nov 15, 2023 21:40:19 GMT -5
Wow. I am less than impressed. He sounds a lot like that blonde lady, I have tried to block from my mind. ETA: Kellyann Conway |
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Post by scgal on Nov 16, 2023 7:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 16, 2023 9:33:14 GMT -5
Great answers. So far looks like a good choice House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said in 2015 that Donald Trump is too “dangerous” and “lacks the character” to serve as president, according to The New York Times. “The thing about Donald Trump is that he lacks the character and the moral center we desperately need again in the White House,” Johnson, then a state legislator, wrote in an Aug. 7, 2015, Facebook post, the newspaper reported Monday. The Louisiana Republican, who has since deleted his post, reportedly said his fear with Trump is that “he would break more things than he fixes. He is a hot head by nature, and that is a dangerous trait to have in a Commander in Chief.” What if Trump, as president, decided to bomb another head of state entirely because he felt disrespected by that head of state, Johnson wondered aloud. “I am only halfway kidding about this,” he continued. “I just don’t think he has the demeanor to be President.” news.yahoo.com/mike-johnson-2015-trump-dangerous-162750283.htmlMe too...wonderful choice! Oh wait, this was in 2015 when he had the guts to speak his mind.  |
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Post by scgal on Nov 16, 2023 11:20:54 GMT -5
Great answers. So far looks like a good choice House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said in 2015 that Donald Trump is too “dangerous” and “lacks the character” to serve as president, according to The New York Times. “The thing about Donald Trump is that he lacks the character and the moral center we desperately need again in the White House,” Johnson, then a state legislator, wrote in an Aug. 7, 2015, Facebook post, the newspaper reported Monday. The Louisiana Republican, who has since deleted his post, reportedly said his fear with Trump is that “he would break more things than he fixes. He is a hot head by nature, and that is a dangerous trait to have in a Commander in Chief.” What if Trump, as president, decided to bomb another head of state entirely because he felt disrespected by that head of state, Johnson wondered aloud. “I am only halfway kidding about this,” he continued. “I just don’t think he has the demeanor to be President.” news.yahoo.com/mike-johnson-2015-trump-dangerous-162750283.htmlMe too...wonderful choice! Oh wait, this was in 2015 when he had the guts to speak his mind. More likely it was before he seen how well Trump led. Not hard to do considering the failure he came after |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Nov 16, 2023 11:24:16 GMT -5
Yes, what's a little insurrection among friends
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 16, 2023 11:45:02 GMT -5
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said in 2015 that Donald Trump is too “dangerous” and “lacks the character” to serve as president, according to The New York Times. “The thing about Donald Trump is that he lacks the character and the moral center we desperately need again in the White House,” Johnson, then a state legislator, wrote in an Aug. 7, 2015, Facebook post, the newspaper reported Monday. The Louisiana Republican, who has since deleted his post, reportedly said his fear with Trump is that “he would break more things than he fixes. He is a hot head by nature, and that is a dangerous trait to have in a Commander in Chief.” What if Trump, as president, decided to bomb another head of state entirely because he felt disrespected by that head of state, Johnson wondered aloud. “I am only halfway kidding about this,” he continued. “I just don’t think he has the demeanor to be President.” news.yahoo.com/mike-johnson-2015-trump-dangerous-162750283.htmlMe too...wonderful choice! Oh wait, this was in 2015 when he had the guts to speak his mind. More likely it was before he seen how well Trump led. Not hard to do considering the failure he came after You talking about the beautiful health care plan, the infrastructure plan, Mexico paying for the wall, the great job during COVID,, $7.8 trillion debt, and tax cuts for the middle class? Yeah, that is probably why he changed his tune.  |
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Post by mollyanna58 on Nov 16, 2023 12:10:56 GMT -5
House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said in 2015 that Donald Trump is too “dangerous” and “lacks the character” to serve as president, according to The New York Times. “The thing about Donald Trump is that he lacks the character and the moral center we desperately need again in the White House,” Johnson, then a state legislator, wrote in an Aug. 7, 2015, Facebook post, the newspaper reported Monday. The Louisiana Republican, who has since deleted his post, reportedly said his fear with Trump is that “he would break more things than he fixes. He is a hot head by nature, and that is a dangerous trait to have in a Commander in Chief.” What if Trump, as president, decided to bomb another head of state entirely because he felt disrespected by that head of state, Johnson wondered aloud. “I am only halfway kidding about this,” he continued. “I just don’t think he has the demeanor to be President.” news.yahoo.com/mike-johnson-2015-trump-dangerous-162750283.htmlMe too...wonderful choice! Oh wait, this was in 2015 when he had the guts to speak his mind. More likely it was before he seen how well Trump led. Not hard to do considering the failure he came after |
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Post by grumpyhermit on Nov 16, 2023 12:16:46 GMT -5
Every time I actually watch politicians speak, I am reminded why I never watch politicians speak. To a person, their ability to lie and distort with a straight face is just astounding.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 16, 2023 12:23:43 GMT -5
Have you always supported dictators like trump? More likely it was before he seen how well Trump led. Not hard to do considering the failure he came after How would you like to live in a country where people who criticize the nation’s leader end up in jail? Sounds more like Putin’s Russia than the United States. Last week, Donald Trump said that if he is returned to the White House, he would like to unleash the federal law enforcement apparatus on his political opponents. This is just another example of the former president’s penchant for openly admitting even his most disturbingly un-American ideas. His desire to politicize prosecution is one aspect of his repeated campaign promise to use a second presidential term as a vehicle of “retribution.” As he tells his followers, “I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed: I am your retribution.” Using prosecution as political payback would be a dramatic departure from the aspiration to equal justice for all that has long guided law enforcement decisions. That is why the 2024 election will not just be a choice among presidential candidates, but also a choice among radically different governing ideas. You’ve heard it before, but with his every utterance, Donald Trump reminds us: The future of democracy and the rule of law in this country will be on the ballot when Americans go to the polls next year. Trump made this freshly apparent during an interview on Univision News, the Spanish-language TV network. The Univision reporter, Enrique Acevedo, asked him if he would “weaponize the FBI and Justice Department on his opponents in the same way he claims federal law enforcement agencies have been weaponized against him.” Trump responded, “Yeah. If they do this, and they’ve already done it, but if they follow through on this, yeah, it could certainly happen in reverse. What they’ve done is they’ve released the genie out of the box.” Political prosecution is un-American — we can’t allow Trump to cross that line |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 16, 2023 12:46:44 GMT -5
his very first line was a complete lie. the economic numbers in Trump's first two years were below Obama's in his last two years. the economic numbers in Trump's first two years were also considerably below Carter's first two years. and the economic numbers were FAR BELOW those of the successors to Roosevelt in the 50's. he either has no knowledge of US economics, he is a complete liar, or both. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 16, 2023 12:48:01 GMT -5
PS- that is how much of my time i gave him. about 15s.
if he expects me to listen, he is going to have to do better
than starting off with a complete, utter, bare faced lie.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 16, 2023 12:55:24 GMT -5
his very first line was a complete lie. the economic numbers in Trump's first two years were below Obama's in his last two years. the economic numbers in Trump's first two years were also considerably below Carter's first two years. and the economic numbers were FAR BELOW those of the successors to Roosevelt in the 50's. he either has no knowledge of US economics, he is a complete liar, or both. Yes. |
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Post by tallguy on Nov 16, 2023 13:06:51 GMT -5
Great answers. So far looks like a good choice Well, you prove one thing. A conservative's ability to completely and unquestionably swallow lies and nonsense is rivalled only by pre-schoolers.  |
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More likely it was before he seen how well Trump led. Not hard to do considering the failure he came after You talking about the beautiful health care plan, the infrastructure plan, Mexico paying for the wall, the great job during COVID,, $7.8 trillion debt, and tax cuts for the middle class? Yeah, that is probably why he changed his tune. Lets see debt rose 7.8 from Trump---Obama 9.2. Thats better. I'm middle class my taxes went down thats better. Infrastructure I'll give that to ya nothing there same faileure as Obama and Biden. The wall could never get off the ground with the last 2 years of congress. Healthcare plan nothing could be worse than the ACA oh millions of people got ins bullshit millions of people got raked over the coals paying for it. Overall much better than Obama and so far Biden which with Biden's health and mental failure he's toast. |
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Post by scgal on Nov 16, 2023 13:27:04 GMT -5
Great answers. So far looks like a good choice Well, you prove one thing. A conservative's ability to completely and unquestionably swallow lies and nonsense is rivalled only by pre-schoolers. Typical liberal nastiness. |
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You talking about the beautiful health care plan, the infrastructure plan, Mexico paying for the wall, the great job during COVID,, $7.8 trillion debt, and tax cuts for the middle class? Yeah, that is probably why he changed his tune. Lets see debt rose 7.8 from Trump---Obama 9.2. Thats better. I'm middle class my taxes went down thats better. Infrastructure I'll give that to ya nothing there same faileure as Obama and Biden. The wall could never get off the ground with the last 2 years of congress. Healthcare plan nothing could be worse than the ACA oh millions of people got ins bullshit millions of people got raked over the coals paying for it. Overall much better than Obama and so far Biden which with Biden's health and mental failure he's toast. Starting with something completely misleading? How typical. Four years of Trump vs. eight years of Obama. Do the math. Nearly a trillion more per year under Trump, not even taking into account the fact that much of Obama's "debt" was in response to the Great Recession of GWB and Republican policies. Trump's great tax policies? There have been tax INCREASES that polled as more popular with the American public than Trump's tax cuts. And no, you don't get to include the COVID response debt as somehow not Trump's fault, since it was his complete butchering of the initial response that led to it. Many millions of people are far better off under the ACA than they ever would have been otherwise. And if you can seriously suggest that Donald Trump's mental acuity is in any way superior to Joe Biden's, you call your own into SERIOUS question. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Nov 16, 2023 14:02:00 GMT -5
Lets see debt rose 7.8 from Trump---Obama 9.2. Thats better. I'm middle class my taxes went down thats better. Infrastructure I'll give that to ya nothing there same faileure as Obama and Biden. The wall could never get off the ground with the last 2 years of congress. Healthcare plan nothing could be worse than the ACA oh millions of people got ins bullshit millions of people got raked over the coals paying for it. Overall much better than Obama and so far Biden which with Biden's health and mental failure he's toast. Starting with something completely misleading? How typical. Four years of Trump vs. eight years of Obama. Do the math. Nearly a trillion more per year under Trump, not even taking into account the fact that much of Obama's "debt" was in response to the Great Recession of GWB and Republican policies. Trump's great tax policies? There have been tax INCREASES that polled as more popular with the American public than Trump's tax cuts. And no, you don't get to include the COVID response debt as somehow not Trump's fault, since it was his complete butchering of the initial response that led to it. Many millions of people are far better off under the ACA than they ever would have been otherwise. And if you can seriously suggest that Donald Trump's mental acuity is in any way superior to Joe Biden's, you call your own into SERIOUS question. Math is hard. Bringing it into a discussion is unfair because Math is bringing facts into a discussion. Feelings are more important. She has already stated that she doesn't feel that insurance is a problem for the government to solve. And she doesn't believe me when I say that Biden is likely to outlive Trump because I am a "so called doctor". She is fact challenged and unable to understand any point of view besides her own. Conservatives used to like to tout how they were driven by facts. Boy, has that ship sailed. It is all feelings and emotion now, |
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Post by tallguy on Nov 16, 2023 14:16:20 GMT -5
Starting with something completely misleading? How typical. Four years of Trump vs. eight years of Obama. Do the math. Nearly a trillion more per year under Trump, not even taking into account the fact that much of Obama's "debt" was in response to the Great Recession of GWB and Republican policies. Trump's great tax policies? There have been tax INCREASES that polled as more popular with the American public than Trump's tax cuts. And no, you don't get to include the COVID response debt as somehow not Trump's fault, since it was his complete butchering of the initial response that led to it. Many millions of people are far better off under the ACA than they ever would have been otherwise. And if you can seriously suggest that Donald Trump's mental acuity is in any way superior to Joe Biden's, you call your own into SERIOUS question. Math is hard. Bringing it into a discussion is unfair because Math is bringing facts into a discussion. Feelings are more important. She has already stated that she doesn't feel that insurance is a problem for the government to solve. And she doesn't believe me when I say that Biden is likely to outlive Trump because I am a "so called doctor". She is fact challenged and unable to understand any point of view besides her own. Conservatives used to like to tout how they were driven by facts. Boy, has that ship sailed. It is all feelings and emotion now, One wishes they were capable of introspection. They would not write nearly as much stupid sh** everywhere, or at the very least would occasionally feel some shame when they did. That ship apparently sank in the harbor. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 16, 2023 16:15:28 GMT -5
You talking about the beautiful health care plan, the infrastructure plan, Mexico paying for the wall, the great job during COVID,, $7.8 trillion debt, and tax cuts for the middle class? Yeah, that is probably why he changed his tune. Lets see debt rose 7.8 from Trump---Obama 9.2. no, it isn't. Obama had 8 years, Trump only 4. therefore, the debt per year was 70% higher under Trump. percentages per term were worse as well (that is a fairer way to measure it). |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 16, 2023 16:17:11 GMT -5
You talking about the beautiful health care plan, the infrastructure plan, Mexico paying for the wall, the great job during COVID,, $7.8 trillion debt, and tax cuts for the middle class? Yeah, that is probably why he changed his tune. Healthcare plan nothing could be worse than the ACA oh millions of people got ins bullshit millions of people got raked over the coals paying for it. Overall much better than Obama and so far Biden which with Biden's health and mental failure he's toast. yeah, but he promised us that he would give us a better plan. along with a billion other things. i did way better under Obama. my wealth nearly doubled. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 16, 2023 16:23:19 GMT -5
Well, you prove one thing. A conservative's ability to completely and unquestionably swallow lies and nonsense is rivalled only by pre-schoolers. Typical liberal nastiness. please. there are plenty of nasty conservatives. of course, if you agree with each other, the nastiness rarely comes out. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Nov 16, 2023 16:24:21 GMT -5
Trump being at the top of the list, followed by almost everyone on Fox News
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Post by Opti on Nov 16, 2023 18:58:44 GMT -5
his very first line was a complete lie. the economic numbers in Trump's first two years were below Obama's in his last two years. the economic numbers in Trump's first two years were also considerably below Carter's first two years. and the economic numbers were FAR BELOW those of the successors to Roosevelt in the 50's. he either has no knowledge of US economics, he is a complete liar, or both. He's a liar. Apparently, he was one of the architects to help steal the election, so he knows for certain Trump did not believe the election was stolen. But like Trump he is more than willing to sell the lie including pretending he does not know he lost. The tough thing for those of us not in a conservative media bubble, we don't realize how well most of the listeners have bought the idea that Trump created a beautiful economy. Fox and others would never ever mention Trump was riding on the improving economy when Obama left office. Way too many logic challenged individuals do not understand Presidents do not and generally cannot set gas prices. I was one of those people working in person during the pandemic buying the cheaper gas and I much rather would have skipped the pandemic and not worry about dying or potential long term Covid effects especially those first 6+ months. Sure cheaper gas was nice them, but the pandemic also led to high chicken prices, lack of meat and potatoes in the stores. That crap happened while Trump was still in office. It did not wait until Jan 2021. Trump probably did not figure into any wars or skirmishes. Obviously 2019 into 2020 would be quiet simply because of the raging pandemic. If he was so great at peace, why couldn't he get us out of Afghanistan during his first term? It wasn't like he wasn't aware of it before he even got elected. |
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Post by scgal on Nov 16, 2023 19:37:52 GMT -5
Healthcare plan nothing could be worse than the ACA oh millions of people got ins bullshit millions of people got raked over the coals paying for it. Overall much better than Obama and so far Biden which with Biden's health and mental failure he's toast. yeah, but he promised us that he would give us a better plan. along with a billion other things. i did way better under Obama. my wealth nearly doubled. We did way better under Trump than Obama. |
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Post by scgal on Nov 16, 2023 19:45:49 GMT -5
Lets see debt rose 7.8 from Trump---Obama 9.2. no, it isn't. Obama had 8 years, Trump only 4. therefore, the debt per year was 70% higher under Trump. percentages per term were worse as well (that is a fairer way to measure it). Trump had another 4 yrs the debt probably would have decreased. But we will never know. Bottom line is Obama is worse than Trump. I will not vote for Trump this go round. Hopefully he will get knocked out. I'm sure if Biden gets another 4 yrs with all his mental issues he will probably be in an asylum before the end of his term. That is if his health even holds out. |
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