Hunter Biden indicted

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Feb 19, 2024 13:11:13 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Feb 19, 2024 12:42:16 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

another classic example is the lady who spawned the voter fraud theory. she is an artist from Minnesota. she has no special knowledge. she gained her "insights" by perusing the internet and by overhearing conversations at her local grocery store.

i have forgotten her name now, but her bullshit (which was picked up by Sydney Powell) eventually cost FOX almost $800M. and they are not done suing them, yet.

Yeah, this one.  It is an "interesting" read.   

Meet the ‘Ghost’ Woman Fox Relied on for Voter Fraud Claims

DB wants me to register in order to read the article.

[tallguy]

Feb 19, 2024 13:31:48 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Feb 19, 2024 13:11:13 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Yeah, this one.  It is an "interesting" read.   

Meet the ‘Ghost’ Woman Fox Relied on for Voter Fraud Claims

DB wants me to register in order to read the article.

That's weird.  I didn't have to originally, but then when I clicked on the link it asked me too.   
Try doing a search for the term minnesota artist election fraud
I didn't have to register with the search link.

Or try this one:

The 'wackadoodle' foundation of Fox News' election-fraud claims

It's not as good, but....

[djAdvocate]

Feb 19, 2024 13:11:13 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Feb 19, 2024 12:42:16 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

another classic example is the lady who spawned the voter fraud theory. she is an artist from Minnesota. she has no special knowledge. she gained her "insights" by perusing the internet and by overhearing conversations at her local grocery store.

i have forgotten her name now, but her bullshit (which was picked up by Sydney Powell) eventually cost FOX almost $800M. and they are not done suing them, yet.

Yeah, this one.  It is an "interesting" read.   

Meet the ‘Ghost’ Woman Fox Relied on for Voter Fraud Claims

yeah- the cactus artist.  that's the one.

give Daily Beast some credit, here.  they just called her up and got a 1 hour interview.  she is fucking nuts.  and this is the source for about half the election conspiracies out there.  she thinks that imagining shit is a great way of life.  and i guess it is.  if you are an artist.

not so much if you are trying to govern people.

[djAdvocate]

here is the first half of that DB article:

A voting machine company’s $1.6 billion lawsuit against Fox News has rocked the conservative media giant, exposing rifts between its journalists and the star hosts, and executives more concerned with mollifying pro-Trump viewers than accurately reporting that the 2020 election wasn’t stolen.

But the strangest revelation so far from the Dominion Voting Systems case against the cable channel may be the alleged source of the voter-fraud claims that sparked the lawsuit: a single email from a previously unknown woman who was convinced, among other things, that late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia was murdered while being hunted for sport.

That unhinged email to Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell has now become a centerpiece of Dominion’s case, raising questions about how Fox could allow obviously fake claims from a total stranger with no credentials to make it on the air.

Even Maria Bartiromo, the Fox host whose show first aired the claims, admitted in a deposition that the email was ridiculous.

“It’s kooky, absolutely,” Bartiromo said.

But the idea’s origin is even more “kooky” than Bartiromo might realize. In an interview with The Daily Beast, the woman behind that email—a Minnesota artist named Marlene Bourne—said that she based her now nationally prominent ideas about election fraud on a wide variety of sources, including hidden messages she detects in films, song lyrics she hears on the radio, and overheard conversations she hears while in line at the supermarket checkout.

“Yeah, I’m crazy,” Bourne told The Daily Beast. “Crazy like a fox.”

Powell didn’t respond to requests for comment. A spokesperson for Dominion declined to comment.

In a statement provided after this article was published, Fox called the lawsuit an effort to “silence the press.”

“FOX News will continue to fiercely protect the free press as a ruling in favor of Dominion would have grave consequences for journalism across this country,” the statement read.

Bourne, who makes what she calls “cactus art” using glitter and Swarovski crystals, might seem like an unlikely person to plunge the most-watched cable network in the country into an embarrassing, expensive lawsuit.

Bourne said she has never met Powell, or communicated with her beyond that one email. She doesn’t even watch Fox News, because she considers the network and all other major media outlets to be “psyops”—short for psychological operations carried out by nefarious forces as part of what she called a “mass global unconventional warfare” plot to divide Americans.

But on the afternoon of Nov. 7, 2020, just hours after Fox and other major media outlets called the election for Joe Biden, Bourne sent Powell, Fox host Lou Dobbs, and conservative activist Tom Fitton an email laying out the case against Dominion as she saw it. In Bourne’s telling, Dominion machines used software to convert 3 percent of all votes for Donald Trump into votes for Biden.

Bourne had seen Powell defending Trump online and thought the lawyer would be the perfect person for her theories.

“OK, let’s send some information that will steer her in the right direction,” Bourne told The Daily Beast. “I was on a roll, let’s put it that way.”

[djAdvocate]

you might want to read the email, too. it is pretty bizarre.

you can find it here:

www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum12/HTML/000626.html

[djAdvocate]

think about it for a minute. this lunatic is responsible for about half the disinformation on elections out there.

this is WHY i am constantly harping on the "double check your sources" vibe. NOT doing so is a danger to the republic.

you could not possibly have made up such a ludicrous origin story. but here it is. as stark as moon shadows.

[tallguy]

And more evidence that the far-right (or those who wish to influence the weak-minded) will latch onto literally ANYTHING if it fits with their biases or their interests.  Truth be damned.  Integrity be damned.  The new journalistic mantra on that side appears to be, "None of that matters as long as we can get what we want out of it." 

[billisonboard]

Feb 19, 2024 14:41:27 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

you might want to read the email, too. it is pretty bizarre.

you can find it here:

www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum12/HTML/000626.html

Totally bizarre. Thanks for the link.

[djAdvocate]

i would love to say that we need people to question themselves more often, but it is clear that there is a certain segment of the public that would sooner DIE than do so.

it wouldn't bother me so much if we were an Islamic Republic, or a place where propaganda runs things like Russia or Turkiye. but in a place where we have the first amendment, it is utterly appalling.

[Tennesseer]

I see trump and putin's hands in this.

Indicted Biden accuser had 'extensive' contacts with Russian intel, prosecutor say

An FBI informant charged with lying to investigators about a fictitious bribery scheme involving President Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company has “had contact with foreign intelligence services, including Russian intelligence agencies,” prosecutors alleged in court documents on Tuesday.

Alexander Smirnov was indicted last week on charges he lied to the FBI, falsely telling them that executives with now-defunct Ukrainian energy company Burisma had paid Hunter and Joe Biden $5 million each in bribes.

Smirnov’s claims have been a pillar of a months-long effort by congressional Republicans to impeach the president.

But Special Counsel David Weiss, who is prosecuting Hunter Biden on gun and tax charges, alleged on Feb. 14 that Smirnov had spun up a false story, and he was arrested at a Las Vegas airport after returning from overseas.

In a 28-page memo submitted Tuesday opposing bail for Smirnov, prosecutors said the former FBI informant admitted to having contacts with foreign intelligence services from countries including Russia.

“While Smirnov has no ties to the community in Las Vegas, what he does have is extensive foreign ties, including, most troublingly and by his own account, contact with foreign intelligence services, including Russian intelligence agencies, and has had such contacts recently,” Weiss wrote to the court. “Smirnov could use these contacts to resettle outside the United States” if released on bail. Weiss said that prosecutors were aware of Smirnov’s spy connections because he had shared them with his FBI handlers. Smirnov began working as an FBI informant in 2010, prosecutors said.

Rest of article here: Indicted Biden accuser had 'extensive' contacts with Russian intel, prosecutor say

[Tennesseer]

Hunter Biden opens impeachment testimony: ‘I did not involve my father in my business’

Hunter Biden testified Wednesday that he “did not involve” his father, President Biden, in his business dealings, delivering the message at the beginning of his highly anticipated deposition as part of the GOP’s impeachment inquiry into the president.

“I am here today to provide the committees with the one uncontestable fact that should end the false premise of this inquiry: I did not involve my father in my business. Not while I was a practicing lawyer, not in my investments or transactions domestic or international, not as a board member, and not as an artist. Never,” Biden said during his opening statement.

“My testimony today should put an end to this baseless and destructive political charade,” he later added. “You have wasted valuable time and resources attacking me and my family for your own political gain when you should be fixing the real problems in this country that desperately need your attention.”

Hunter Biden — appearing behind closed doors before the House Oversight and Judiciary committees — slammed the GOP’s investigation into the president, accusing Republicans of trying, but failing, to prove “baseless and MAGA-motivated conspiracies” about his father.

“For more than a year, your committees have hunted me in your partisan political pursuit of my dad. You have trafficked in innuendo, distortion, and sensationalism — all the while ignoring the clear and convincing evidence staring you in the face,” he said. “You do not have evidence to support the baseless and MAGA-motivated conspiracies about my father, because there isn’t any.”

Rest of artile here:  Hunter Biden opens impeachment testimony: ‘I did not involve my father in my business’

[Tennesseer]

5 takeaways from the Hunter Biden transcript

Republicans conducting the impeachment investigation into President Biden released the transcript of their private interview with Hunter Biden on Thursday evening, one day after the president’s son huddled behind closed doors for nearly seven hours on Capitol Hill.

The younger Biden is perhaps the most crucial witness to appear before the House Oversight and Judiciary committees since GOP leaders formally launched their impeachment probe last September, and Republican investigators had fought for months for the opportunity to grill him in person about his overseas business deals.

The investigation has split House lawmakers down straight party lines, and Wednesday’s feisty testimony from the president’s son did nothing to change that.

Republicans have alleged his business ventures were tainted by corruption and influence peddling that financially benefited other members of the family, including the president — allegations they say were bolstered by Hunter Biden’s testimony.

Democrats have countered that there was nothing irregular about the business arrangements, and that Joe Biden never had a hand in, or profited from, those pursuits — a position they say Hunter Biden defended clearly.

Here are five takeaways from Wednesday’s deposition.

Rest of article here: 5 takeaways from the Hunter Biden transcript

And a reminder for ripvanwinkle how the Republicans were all up in arms because Hunter Biden didn't show up to privately give a deposition to the republicans after being subpoenaed by them and who want to impeach his father but failed themselves to show up when they were issued subpoenas themselves by the J6 committee.

[Tennesseer]

This should be interesting should it occur.

House Republicans invite Hunter Biden and former associates for a public hearing in mid-March

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans have invited Hunter Biden and his former business associates to appear at a public hearing later in March as part of the next step in their lengthy impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden.

The House Oversight and Accountability Committee announced it will hold a hearing on March 20 that is expected to include an appearance by the president's son and three former associates.

The 14-month investigation into the Biden family has primarily focused on Hunter Biden's overseas work in countries such as Ukraine and China. While lawmakers have unearthed ethically questionable behavior by the president's son and other family members, Republicans have yet to produce evidence of misconduct by Joe Biden while in public office.

Hunter Biden and his lawyer had insisted late last year that he appear for a public hearing instead of the private deposition he sat for last week that lasted more than seven hours, citing concerns that GOP lawmakers would distort his interview. The two sides ultimately agreed to a sit-down testimony first, followed by a public hearing.

Rest of article here: House Republicans invite Hunter Biden and former associates for a public hearing in mid-March

[happyhoix]

Mar 7, 2024 18:25:35 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This should be interesting should it occur.

House Republicans invite Hunter Biden and former associates for a public hearing in mid-March

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans have invited Hunter Biden and his former business associates to appear at a public hearing later in March as part of the next step in their lengthy impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden.

The House Oversight and Accountability Committee announced it will hold a hearing on March 20 that is expected to include an appearance by the president's son and three former associates.

The 14-month investigation into the Biden family has primarily focused on Hunter Biden's overseas work in countries such as Ukraine and China. While lawmakers have unearthed ethically questionable behavior by the president's son and other family members, Republicans have yet to produce evidence of misconduct by Joe Biden while in public office.

Hunter Biden and his lawyer had insisted late last year that he appear for a public hearing instead of the private deposition he sat for last week that lasted more than seven hours, citing concerns that GOP lawmakers would distort his interview. The two sides ultimately agreed to a sit-down testimony first, followed by a public hearing.

Rest of article here: House Republicans invite Hunter Biden and former associates for a public hearing in mid-March

They already had their private hearing and found nothing. They need to just give this up and go focus on something important to the country, like border security. 

[thyme4change]

Mar 7, 2024 19:40:12 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Mar 7, 2024 18:25:35 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This should be interesting should it occur.

House Republicans invite Hunter Biden and former associates for a public hearing in mid-March

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans have invited Hunter Biden and his former business associates to appear at a public hearing later in March as part of the next step in their lengthy impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden.

The House Oversight and Accountability Committee announced it will hold a hearing on March 20 that is expected to include an appearance by the president's son and three former associates.

The 14-month investigation into the Biden family has primarily focused on Hunter Biden's overseas work in countries such as Ukraine and China. While lawmakers have unearthed ethically questionable behavior by the president's son and other family members, Republicans have yet to produce evidence of misconduct by Joe Biden while in public office.

Hunter Biden and his lawyer had insisted late last year that he appear for a public hearing instead of the private deposition he sat for last week that lasted more than seven hours, citing concerns that GOP lawmakers would distort his interview. The two sides ultimately agreed to a sit-down testimony first, followed by a public hearing.

Rest of article here: House Republicans invite Hunter Biden and former associates for a public hearing in mid-March

They already had their private hearing and found nothing. They need to just give this up and go focus on something important to the country, like border security. 

We said the same thing about all the Hilary crap, but it ended up benefitting them - so they are going to use the same playbook - hoping to get lucky.

[djAdvocate]

i think it will work for the gullible.

it is a question of how many times a deciding portion of the electorate can be lied to, and believe it. i have no idea what that number is. which is what makes this, and every future election, nerve-wracking.

[Tennesseer]

The GOP's second Biden impeachment hearing was somehow worse than the first
House Republicans spent Wednesday's Oversight Committee trying to turn two of Hunter Biden's former business associates into star witnesses. They failed.

Wednesday’s impeachment inquiry hearing in the House Oversight Committee managed to be somehow even less impressive, and even more damaging to the Republicans’ goal of bringing down President Joe Biden, than the first impeachment hearing held last year. Per the Constitution, the bar for impeaching — let alone convicting — a president is a high one. Despite that, House Republicans have tried to set the bar nice and low. And on Wednesday they showed how far they still are from clearing it.

Republicans claimed to have two witnesses who would finally rip the lid off this whole “affair” during Wednesday’s hearing, luridly titled “Influence Peddling: Examining Joe Biden’s Abuse of Public Office.” Chairman Jim Comer, R-Ky., promised in his opening statement to show “that Joe Biden has taken action after action to further his family’s plans to get rich.” That allegedly includes supporting efforts from his son, Hunter Biden, and his brother Jim Biden to capitalize on the family name.

The president’s son and brother have privately testified to the Oversight Committee. But apparently none of Hunter Biden’s testimony nor any of Jim Biden’s testimony was important enough for Republicans to include in a two-minute video claiming that “Joe Biden is the Biden family business.” Instead, Republicans played snippets from interviews Hunter Biden’s former associates, Tony Boboluski and Jason Galanis, gave the committee. They also played a snippet of video from Devon Archer, another former business partner of Hunter Biden.

Rather than use Archer’s testimony to the House Judiciary Committee, though, Republicans relied on an interview he gave former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. The Republicans’ decision not to use Archer’s sworn testimony may have something to do with the fact that, according to that transcript, he undermined Comer’s claim that then-Vice President Biden acted corruptly to Hunter Biden’s benefit in Ukraine. Archer declined the committee’s invitation to testify at Wednesday’s hearing. His lawyer told NBC News that Archer “remains ready and willing to cooperate with all authorities in their legitimate investigations.”

Rest of article here: The GOP's second Biden impeachment hearing was somehow worse than the first

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I thought one of the perks of being a rich white dude and in turn being the child of a rich white dude was they further enrich themselves?   I mean I know why they are trying to make it into an impeachable offense but damn. 

I doubt a single one of these Republicans kids pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, every single one of them took advantage of daddy and mommy's connections.  Just like they took advantage of their parents' connections before them.

I mean look at that whole college acceptance scam that made the news awhile ago.    If we dig deep enough I am sure every single one of these clowns did something that would be consider sketch by us mere mortals but is only a Tuesday afternoon phone call for them.

That's why there is a massive generational wealth gap in this country.

Just.  . ugh.  I am so sick of rich white people.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 21, 2024 8:43:53 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I thought one of the perks of being a rich white dude and in turn being the child of a rich white dude was they further enrich themselves?   I mean I know why they are trying to make it into an impeachable offense but damn. 

I doubt a single one of these Republicans kids pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, every single one of them took advantage of daddy and mommy's connections.  Just like they took advantage of their parents' connections before them.

I mean look at that whole college acceptance scam that made the news awhile ago.    If we dig deep enough I am sure every single one of these clowns did something that would be consider sketch by us mere mortals but is only a Tuesday afternoon phone call for them.

That's why there is a massive generational wealth gap in this country.

Just.  . ugh.  I am so sick of rich white people.

We need look no further than the trump children. as proof of your highlighted comment.

[thyme4change]

Mar 21, 2024 8:43:53 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I thought one of the perks of being a rich white dude and in turn being the child of a rich white dude was they further enrich themselves?   I mean I know why they are trying to make it into an impeachable offense but damn. 

I doubt a single one of these Republicans kids pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, every single one of them took advantage of daddy and mommy's connections.  Just like they took advantage of their parents' connections before them.

I mean look at that whole college acceptance scam that made the news awhile ago.    If we dig deep enough I am sure every single one of these clowns did something that would be consider sketch by us mere mortals but is only a Tuesday afternoon phone call for them.

That's why there is a massive generational wealth gap in this country.

Just.  . ugh.  I am so sick of rich white people.

I’ve probably done something sketch

[NastyWoman]

Mar 21, 2024 9:22:39 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Mar 21, 2024 8:43:53 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I thought one of the perks of being a rich white dude and in turn being the child of a rich white dude was they further enrich themselves?   I mean I know why they are trying to make it into an impeachable offense but damn. 

I doubt a single one of these Republicans kids pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, every single one of them took advantage of daddy and mommy's connections.  Just like they took advantage of their parents' connections before them.

I mean look at that whole college acceptance scam that made the news awhile ago.    If we dig deep enough I am sure every single one of these clowns did something that would be consider sketch by us mere mortals but is only a Tuesday afternoon phone call for them.

That's why there is a massive generational wealth gap in this country.

Just.  . ugh.  I am so sick of rich white people.

We need look no further than the trump children. as proof of your highlighted comment.

Why look at the orange paint addict's kids? He is living proof of that statement   And, yes you are correct his kids are proof that this is a multi-generational problem

[djAdvocate]

Chairman Jim Comer, R-Ky., promised in his opening statement to show “that Joe Biden has taken action after action to further his family’s plans to get rich.”

yeah, because Biden is just so overwhelmingly rich, right?

i think he has his presidents wrong.

[Tennesseer]

Fox News’ demands to impeach Biden blew up in the GOP’s face
The network deserves a big share of the blame for leading Republicans into this debacle.

It’s time to call it: The House GOP’s shambolic inquiry into the impeachment of President Joe Biden expired on Wednesday night at 9:01 p.m. That’s when Sean Hannity opened his Fox News show by promising “highlights” from the day’s “explosive” hearing with Hunter Biden’s former business partners — and then immediately pivoted to a monologue not about its revelations, but about the president’s poll numbers.

Hannity did more than perhaps any other single figure to will the impeachment probe into existence. Since 2018, he has led a Fox propaganda campaign aimed at using lies about the younger Biden’s foreign business interests to damage his father’s political standing. The resulting House Republican impeachment effort has both followed Fox’s lead and played out in large part on its airwaves. But it has utterly failed to produce evidence of wrongdoing by the president that would convince anyone other than the network’s most fervent fans.

If even Hannity can no longer feign enthusiasm about the impeachment effort, it is truly toast — and Fox itself deserves a big share of the blame for leading Republicans into this debacle.

The House Republican impeachment inquiry satisfied Fox stars’ long-standing demands for a Biden impeachment, which began before he was even elected. When House Republicans regained the majority in the 2022 midterms, their synergy with Fox quickly became apparent. Committee chairs promised to carry out investigations into the various conspiracy theories the network had promoted over the previous years, including “the Biden Crime Family.”

Both sides stood to benefit. House Republicans received a steady stream of easy bookings where they could win plaudits from Fox’s right-wing audience. Fox hosts received fodder for monologues about the Bidens’ purported corruption. But there was a major flaw in the plan: While the heated coverage from the right-wing media convinced the Republican base that impeachment was justified and inevitable, the actual evidence House Republicans amassed tended to disintegrate the moment it left that bubble.

Hannity’s program in particular became a showcase for the GOP’s dubious allegations about Hunter Biden. Hannity ran 325 segments about the president’s son in 2023 alone, regurgitating falsehoods at an incredible rate as he tried to convince his audience that Republicans were about to uncover “potentially the biggest bribery, money laundering scandal in American history.” He made House committee chairs James Comer (43 appearances to discuss Hunter), Jim Jordan (32) and Jason Smith (11) fixtures on his show, giving them platforms to practice their talking points without facing difficult questions.

Rest of article here: Fox News’ demands to impeach Biden blew up in the GOP’s face

[Opti]

Hannity loves doing Trump propaganda. I wish that would make him lose viewers.

[djAdvocate]

i just realized something. i feel kinda dumb that it took me this long.

the Burisma "scandal" that Hannity, FOX, and Trump keep bringing up. in that scandal, purportedly the prosecutor was removed because he was getting close to Hunter, and the BCF (Biden Crime Family) stepped in. in reality, he was removed for gross incompetence and corruption by higher ups in the Ukranian government.

who would that incompetence and corruption have involved? no doubt it would have involved Putin in some way, would it not? in other words, removing the official was a blow to PUTIN, was it not?

wouldn't that explain how all of this nonsense about Biden came into existence and continues to influence DC?

i am asking, because this is pure speculation on my part. let me know if any of this is right, as i am truly not curious enough to find out for myself.

[happyhoix]

James Cormer is pissed because the media isn’t buying into his Biden Crime Family story.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/james-comer-is-mad/ar-BB1kHuyH?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=5a8e373e568f4eaca14f3b7f17758d57&ei=5

He is claiming when reporters came to Kentucky to investigate his own financial dealings, they wore ‘effete’ footwear and walked in a ‘dainty’ manner.

I think he might be losing his mind a bit.

[Tennesseer]

Comer invites Biden to testify before the Oversight Committee