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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2023 12:37:26 GMT -5
mark my words, this laptop will NEVER be used as evidence in ANY court. and it is not because the entire judicial system is in the bag for Biden. it is because that is a highly compromised piece of evidence. it is inadmissible. Well you're probably right. But the evidence, if any, would be great fodder for all the newspapers, tabloids and news agencies for months to come. Like that fake Trump/Russia document Hillary had cooked up and paid for? Which is worse - legal in a court or how about the court of public opinion before a election?? Make for good dinner table talk. that first sentence is an impossible straddle for me. if there is no evidence, then it would mean nothing to the "papers". therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE to conclude that whatever evidence IS there is worth reading about. but sure, i am nearly positive that the "evidence" you are looking for was PLANTED on that laptop. and that is precisely the problem, rip.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 2, 2023 15:51:36 GMT -5
Well you're probably right. But the evidence, if any, would be great fodder for all the newspapers, tabloids and news agencies for months to come. Like that fake Trump/Russia document Hillary had cooked up and paid for? Which is worse - legal in a court or how about the court of public opinion before an election?? Make for good dinner table talk. that first sentence is an impossible straddle for me. if there is no evidence, then it would mean nothing to the "papers". therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE to conclude that whatever evidence IS there is worth reading about. but sure, i am nearly positive that the "evidence" you are looking for was PLANTED on that laptop. and that is precisely the problem, rip. It’s either been planted, or it’s plain Jane language the MAGA have interpreted as damning. Like texts to his dad. Who hasn’t texted their dad, if they still have one? Who hasn’t texted them to set up a lunch date? But MAGA wants us to interpret a lunch date as proof dad and son got together to plot ways to get free money from our enemies. Because that’s what a crime family does.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 2, 2023 16:09:22 GMT -5
i never texted my dad. he barely could use email.
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Post by Opti on Dec 2, 2023 22:48:11 GMT -5
i never texted my dad. he barely could use email. My dad has decided to play inept. He did use email but since he used to live on the outskirts of town he had spotty dial up so he only read and got my emails when he remembered to check at church. He can use his smartphone but hates to. And I get it, the timing to do thing to do stuff on smartphones is tough. Miss my last dumbphone.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 3, 2023 16:08:16 GMT -5
I just looked at the texts between me and my Dad. Tell me if we are engaging in crime.
Me: “I’m on my way to pick up the things” Him: “I’m at a service, bring a key and grab what you need.”
~~~another day~~~~
Him: “We are going for dinner. Are you around, do you want to come?” Me: “We already ate, but will see you tomorrow.”
~~another day~~~
Me: “We are going to drive up the coast. Want to join us?” Him: “Mom is in the shower”
~~another day~~~
Me: “My outlet is broken.” - no reply
Clearly it is all full of code.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Dec 8, 2023 0:20:44 GMT -5
I wonder how this will play out? It sure took them a long time.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 8, 2023 0:43:37 GMT -5
I wonder how this will play out? It sure took them a long time.
my understanding is that he has already paid the back taxes. so, he still has the gun charges to deal with. what else? nothing, probably. i am actually starting to feel sorry for him, even though i think he is a complete fuckup.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 8, 2023 7:58:47 GMT -5
I wonder how this will play out? It sure took them a long time.
my understanding is that he has already paid the back taxes. so, he still has the gun charges to deal with. what else? nothing, probably. i am actually starting to feel sorry for him, even though i think he is a complete fuckup. Yep. He already paid the taxes back, so prosecuting now is just because his name is Biden. I still haven’t seen a single piece of evidence linking Hunter’s activities to his dad and the ‘Biden crime family.’ This is 100% due to Trump trying to not be the only indicted/impeached person running for president in 2024. Trying hard to make the Biden’s criminal.
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Post by Opti on Dec 8, 2023 8:18:11 GMT -5
Its the old Donald deflection technique - accuse your opponent of things you are most definitely guilty of. Hopefully they will turn their ire to your opponent.
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 8, 2023 9:35:26 GMT -5
my understanding is that he has already paid the back taxes. so, he still has the gun charges to deal with. what else? nothing, probably. i am actually starting to feel sorry for him, even though i think he is a complete fuckup. Yep. He already paid the taxes back, so prosecuting now is just because his name is Biden. I still haven’t seen a single piece of evidence linking Hunter’s activities to his dad and the ‘Biden crime family.’ This is 100% due to Trump trying to not be the only indicted/impeached person running for president in 2024. Trying hard to make the Biden’s criminal. OTOH, if his name weren't Biden, would he have had all that income to mishandle?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 8, 2023 14:40:52 GMT -5
my understanding is that he has already paid the back taxes. so, he still has the gun charges to deal with. what else? nothing, probably. i am actually starting to feel sorry for him, even though i think he is a complete fuckup. Yep. He already paid the taxes back, so prosecuting now is just because his name is Biden. I still haven’t seen a single piece of evidence linking Hunter’s activities to his dad and the ‘Biden crime family.’ This is 100% due to Trump trying to not be the only indicted/impeached person running for president in 2024. Trying hard to make the Biden’s criminal. it's a false equivalency. but one the MAGA faithful/cult believes.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 8, 2023 15:05:24 GMT -5
I wonder how this will play out? It sure took them a long time.
Not really sure what the interest in Hunter Biden is. Biden was never an elected local, state or federal official. The only interest is Hunter is he is the son of a sitting president. Biden is charged with three felony and six misdemeanor tax offenses all of which at this point are questionable. Meanwhile, trump supporters like ripvanwinkle voted twice for a guy who apparently had/have the same moral and ethical standards as they did and still do. trump is currently charged with 44 federal charges and 47 state charges, all of them felonies for conduct he displayed while in office and after he was voted out of office. Seems to me trump's well documented criminal charges would be far more interesting than Hunter Biden's really questionable charges.
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Post by Opti on Dec 8, 2023 15:08:20 GMT -5
Yep. He already paid the taxes back, so prosecuting now is just because his name is Biden. I still haven’t seen a single piece of evidence linking Hunter’s activities to his dad and the ‘Biden crime family.’ This is 100% due to Trump trying to not be the only indicted/impeached person running for president in 2024. Trying hard to make the Biden’s criminal. OTOH, if his name weren't Biden, would he have had all that income to mishandle? We all know famous people's kids get opportunities that us regular mortals rarely get offered. Look at Ivanka and her patents on Chinese voting machines. Eric of all people in charge of the Trump biz mothership. Actors having their kids in productions because they would work and they don't necessarily have to pay them or deal with other stage parents. Trump tells us how rich he is, isn't there more billions to be mishandled and cash flowed through the Trump umm crime syndicate then through the much smaller Biden clan.
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Post by Opti on Dec 8, 2023 15:16:14 GMT -5
Eh, I'm tired let's start to compare Trump to Biden, family to family Biden, two wives, because the first one died due to injuries in a 1972 car crash which also killed his third child. He married again to Jill Biden and has a total of 4 children, two who are still living. Trump, three wives, and the first one just died recently. He has at least 5 children. The first three with his first wife, and the Tiffany with the second and Barron with Melania. All five children are living, His two eldest sons help run his empire. Estimated net worth Joe Biden - 8 million www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-much-is-joe-biden-worth-richest-world-leaders-ranked/ss-AA1j6VmL#image=7We all know Trump counts his net worth in billions, so I am done ... for now.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 8, 2023 17:47:13 GMT -5
if we want to continue the discussion to the graft that the Trumps and Kushner have got themselves into, that would be way more interesting. it is at least 100x worse than anything we are talking about with Hunter Biden, and far more incriminating of daddy than anything Hunter has ever done.
the discussion, of course, should be on the latter point. nobody cares about the misdeeds of their adult children. they are responsible for themselves. not vice versa.
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Post by Opti on Dec 9, 2023 2:06:44 GMT -5
I wonder if Christie ever mentions on the campaign trail how Jared never forgave him for prosecuting his dad when Christie was an AG.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 13, 2023 11:40:50 GMT -5
oh well...Republicans had their chance. Hunter Biden appears to defy House GOP subpoena to testify in privateWASHINGTON — Hunter Biden on Wednesday repeated his offer to appear at a public hearing on Capitol Hill, appearing to defy a House Republican-issued subpoena that called for him to testify instead at a closed-door deposition. President Joe Biden's son announced during brief remarks outside of the U.S. Capitol that he has chosen to testify at a public hearing to answer questions from House Republicans. The subpoena, however, called for him to appear for a closed-door deposition Wednesday morning before the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees. Republicans have rejected Hunter Biden's offer to appear for an initial public hearing, saying they want him to testify privately first. They have also threatened to hold him in contempt of Congress if he does not appear. “I’m here today to make sure that the House committees’ illegitimate investigations of my family do not proceed on distortions, manipulated evidence and lies,” he told reporters in his statement. Hunter Biden said that for six years, he has been the target of "MAGA Republicans" who "have impugned my character invaded my privacy, attacked my wife, my children, my family, and my friends. They ridiculed my struggle with addiction. They belittled my recovery and they have tried to dehumanize me, all to embarrass and damage my father who has devoted his entire life to service." Rest of article here: Hunter Biden appears to defy House GOP subpoena to testify in private
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 13, 2023 13:33:00 GMT -5
Yep. He already paid the taxes back, so prosecuting now is just because his name is Biden. I still haven’t seen a single piece of evidence linking Hunter’s activities to his dad and the ‘Biden crime family.’ This is 100% due to Trump trying to not be the only indicted/impeached person running for president in 2024. Trying hard to make the Biden’s criminal. OTOH, if his name weren't Biden, would he have had all that income to mishandle? There are plenty of fuck-up/high dollar felons out there that aren’t children of political figures. Like Sam Bankman-Fried. I bet Hunter could have found people. I don’t know much about the guy - but if he has confidence, a lack of ethics and some charm, he could certainly find some questionable wealth.
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Post by swamp on Dec 13, 2023 13:48:26 GMT -5
I just looked at the texts between me and my Dad. Tell me if we are engaging in crime. Me: “I’m on my way to pick up the things” Him: “I’m at a service, bring a key and grab what you need.” ~~~another day~~~~ Him: “We are going for dinner. Are you around, do you want to come?” Me: “We already ate, but will see you tomorrow.” ~~another day~~~ Me: “We are going to drive up the coast. Want to join us?” Him: “Mom is in the shower” ~~another day~~~ Me: “My outlet is broken.” - no reply Clearly it is all full of code. Clearly the Thyme family is engaged in nefarious activities. Here is the text chain with DD. DD: so are you picking us up? And if so where Like on Franklin? Me: Yes yes DD: KK DD: Are you in watertown? Mom Me: Yes DD God dammit Okay Wait so are we done shopping at the mall?
Clearly we are plotting crimes.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Dec 13, 2023 13:59:31 GMT -5
I just looked at the texts between me and my Dad. Tell me if we are engaging in crime. Me: “I’m on my way to pick up the things” Him: “I’m at a service, bring a key and grab what you need.” ~~~another day~~~~ Him: “We are going for dinner. Are you around, do you want to come?” Me: “We already ate, but will see you tomorrow.” ~~another day~~~ Me: “We are going to drive up the coast. Want to join us?” Him: “Mom is in the shower” ~~another day~~~ Me: “My outlet is broken.” - no reply Clearly it is all full of code. Clearly the Thyme family is engaged in nefarious activities. Here is the text chain with DD. DD: so are you picking us up? And if so where Like on Franklin? Me: Yes yes DD: KK DD: Are you in watertown? Mom Me: Yes DD God dammit Okay Wait so are we done shopping at the mall?
Clearly we are plotting crimes.
Hell, my text messages aren’t near that interesting. Last night. Me (to TD) Are you planning on stopping on the way home? TD On Lakeway now, it’s a mess. Firetruck and ambulances, bad accident, one lane. (This is a 5 lane road and traffic was stopped in one direction to alternate direction going through the only open lane). Me Oh, was going to have you pick up a pizza on your way home. Chicken still frozen solid. TD Call a pick up order into Tino’s, it’s on the other side of this mess. Me Done.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Dec 13, 2023 14:24:26 GMT -5
Clearly the Thyme family is engaged in nefarious activities. Here is the text chain with DD. DD: so are you picking us up? And if so where Like on Franklin? Me: Yes yes DD: KK DD: Are you in watertown? Mom Me: Yes DD God dammit Okay Wait so are we done shopping at the mall?
Clearly we are plotting crimes.
Hell, my text messages aren’t near that interesting. Last night. Me (to TD) Are you planning on stopping on the way home? TD On Lakeway now, it’s a mess. Firetruck and ambulances, bad accident, one lane. (This is a 5 lane road and traffic was stopped in one direction to alternate direction going through the only open lane). Me Oh, was going to have you pick up a pizza on your way home. Chicken still frozen solid. TD Call a pick up order into Tino’s, it’s on the other side of this mess. Me Done. Clearly this is code for a drug run impeded by traffic with a stop to eat babies at a pizza parlor.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 13, 2023 14:55:13 GMT -5
Clearly the Thyme family is engaged in nefarious activities. Here is the text chain with DD. DD: so are you picking us up? And if so where Like on Franklin? Me: Yes yes DD: KK DD: Are you in watertown? Mom Me: Yes DD God dammit Okay Wait so are we done shopping at the mall?
Clearly we are plotting crimes.
Hell, my text messages aren’t near that interesting. Last night. Me (to TD) Are you planning on stopping on the way home? TD On Lakeway now, it’s a mess. Firetruck and ambulances, bad accident, one lane. (This is a 5 lane road and traffic was stopped in one direction to alternate direction going through the only open lane). Me Oh, was going to have you pick up a pizza on your way home. Chicken still frozen solid. TD Call a pick up order into Tino’s, it’s on the other side of this mess. Me Done. Could the above be the origin of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory? Hmmmmm.
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 13, 2023 14:55:26 GMT -5
On my previous phone autocorrect changed ‘pick’ to ‘puck’- no hockey in this house, I can’t imagine I ever texted anyone about a puck. So all my texts did sound like code.
I’m leaving to puck up the kids. On the way home can you puck up some bread. Can you get a ride or should I puck you up? Did you puck up the dry cleaning?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Dec 13, 2023 15:02:45 GMT -5
Take home conclusion…..you can draw a conspiracy theory about the most mundane of conversations.
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Post by moon/Laura on Dec 13, 2023 17:01:51 GMT -5
On my previous phone autocorrect changed ‘pick’ to ‘puck’- no hockey in this house, I can’t imagine I ever texted anyone about a puck. So all my texts did sound like code. I’m leaving to puck up the kids. On the way home can you puck up some bread. Can you get a ride or should I puck you up? Did you puck up the dry cleaning? replace those Ps in puck with Fs and it makes just as much sense! And, it's funnier, lol?
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Dec 14, 2023 2:59:50 GMT -5
On my previous phone autocorrect changed ‘pick’ to ‘puck’- no hockey in this house, I can’t imagine I ever texted anyone about a puck. So all my texts did sound like code. I’m leaving to puck up the kids. On the way home can you puck up some bread. Can you get a ride or should I puck you up? Did you puck up the dry cleaning? replace those Ps in puck with Fs and it makes just as much sense! And, it's funnier, lol?Lol! That is the first thought that popped in my head also!
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 14, 2023 6:51:49 GMT -5
I just looked at the texts between me and my Dad. Tell me if we are engaging in crime. Me: “I’m on my way to pick up the things” Him: “I’m at a service, bring a key and grab what you need.” ~~~another day~~~~ Him: “We are going for dinner. Are you around, do you want to come?” Me: “We already ate, but will see you tomorrow.” ~~another day~~~ Me: “We are going to drive up the coast. Want to join us?” Him: “Mom is in the shower” ~~another day~~~ Me: “My outlet is broken.” - no reply Clearly it is all full of code. Clearly the Thyme family is engaged in nefarious activities. Here is the text chain with DD. DD: so are you picking us up? And if so where Like on Franklin? Me: Yes yes DD: KK DD: Are you in watertown? Mom Me: Yes DD God dammit Okay Wait so are we done shopping at the mall?
Clearly we are plotting crimes.
Franklin? Clearly a reference to dead presidents = money. I cracked the code!! (Yes I know Franklin was not a president but I’m making fun of conspiracy nuts who make extreme leaps in logic)😉
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Dec 14, 2023 11:58:22 GMT -5
Clearly the Thyme family is engaged in nefarious activities. Here is the text chain with DD. DD: so are you picking us up? And if so where Like on Franklin? Me: Yes yes DD: KK DD: Are you in watertown? Mom Me: Yes DD God dammit Okay Wait so are we done shopping at the mall?
Clearly we are plotting crimes.
Franklin? Clearly a reference to dead presidents = money. I cracked the code!! (Yes I know Franklin was not a president but I’m making fun of conspiracy nuts who make extreme leaps in logic)😉 I’m impressed, that leap of illogic surpasses the bestest of those in the GOP! Congrats!
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 14, 2023 12:43:42 GMT -5
On my previous phone autocorrect changed ‘pick’ to ‘puck’- no hockey in this house, I can’t imagine I ever texted anyone about a puck. So all my texts did sound like code. I’m leaving to puck up the kids. On the way home can you puck up some bread. Can you get a ride or should I puck you up? Did you puck up the dry cleaning? replace those Ps in puck with Fs and it makes just as much sense! And, it's funnier, lol?Speaking of pucks, actual pucks (lighten the mood here):
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 14, 2023 17:24:29 GMT -5
I saw one of the GOP House members on TV running his mouth about how Hunter earned 2 million dollars from Burisma doing a job he wasn’t qualified to do so clearly something illegal was going on.
If we’re going to look for unqualified people, what about MTG who ran a gym and never voted until Trump came along? Or Boebert who may not even taken her own GED test? Jared who got 2 billion to run a fund, when he had only ever run a real estate firm before? Trump, of course, who was a D list entertainer and serial backrupt? Not to forget the Dems - was Buttegieg really qualified to be a cabinet member? What about the guy from SNL who was a congressman?
Unqualified people get hired all the time. Every lobbyist ever alive got their job by having connections - so did Hunter. No proof his dad did anything special for Bursima, because if there was proof we would have seen it by now.
Then MTG is out there shouting into a microphone about how Hunter trafficked women (before her fellow congressmen shut her down.)
I don’t even know what that’s supposed to be about and neither does she, I’m betting.
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