The Official 2024 Presidential Thread

[Opti]

Aug 8, 2024 7:05:13 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Vance has been following Harris around the country, doing rallies in the same area. Yesterday he approached her plane where it was parked on the tarmac, saying he wanted to ‘inspect’ it.

I guess looking at what he hopes will soon be his plane?

Creepy.

Trump playbook. Only useful thing to do if Harris does not want to do it personally is send some staffers over to check out his plane or mode of transport. MO. 

Physical creepy in person intimidation has been activated by Vance. I'd also increase the amount of cameras triggered by motion to record future weirdness. And ask that a minimum of two staffers record these incidents going forward as a safety precaution. 

[thyme4change]

‘He wanted to inspect it’

Is he pretending to be helpful? What the hell is going on here?

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Aug 8, 2024 8:10:17 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

‘He wanted to inspect it’

[img src="https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/idunno.gif" alt="" class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png"] Is he pretending to be helpful? What the hell is going on here?

Maybe he is inspecting it to see if there are tampons in the lavatory? 

[moon/Laura]

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

Aug 7, 2024 17:58:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Oh for Pete's sake. Having them in all bathrooms makes sense. If one is out the other will probably have it.

And there are conditions besides being trans that might nesscitate a boy needing a pad.



Gwen has told me periods are no big deal in her age group for boys or girls. It's just a fact of life and boys will even get period products for girls caught unaware.

None of the men in my life have ever had a problem with it. I can attest none of become women after touching a tampon box.



I would pay to see a protest where women AND men throw tampons at Vance and Trump.

Time for some tampon cookies!

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

Oh, for fuck's sake. What's the big deal? No one said the girls would go into the boys' restroom! They could just ask a boy to bring them what they needed. No reason for you to have the vapors over it.

[minnesotapaintlady]

"I went over there because I thought it might be nice to check out this plane that's going to be mine in a few months if we all take care of business, and I think we will," he said.

What a douche.

I don't know what's going on at the other democratic rallies that he's tagging along on, but at the WI one not far from me there were massive traffic jams and crowds for Harris and Walz and Vance had like 50 people...mostly reporters... in a warehouse.  I'm sure if it would have been Trump it would have been a lot crazier, but they're definitely not turning out to see just Vance.

[resolution]

I know we have already left the topic, but this was an entertaining article about Musk's lawsuit that I ran across this morning. 


www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/article/2024/aug/07/elon-musk-is-being-ridiculous-companies-are-free-to-choose-where-to-advertise

[tallguy]

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

Aug 7, 2024 17:58:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Oh for Pete's sake. Having them in all bathrooms makes sense. If one is out the other will probably have it.

And there are conditions besides being trans that might nesscitate a boy needing a pad.



Gwen has told me periods are no big deal in her age group for boys or girls. It's just a fact of life and boys will even get period products for girls caught unaware.

None of the men in my life have ever had a problem with it. I can attest none of become women after touching a tampon box.



I would pay to see a protest where women AND men throw tampons at Vance and Trump.

Time for some tampon cookies!

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

Yeah, it's not like a boy would ever try to help out his girlfriend or sister who is hiding somewhere needing a tampon and fresh clothes....  

[thyme4change]

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

Aug 7, 2024 17:58:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Oh for Pete's sake. Having them in all bathrooms makes sense. If one is out the other will probably have it.

And there are conditions besides being trans that might nesscitate a boy needing a pad.



Gwen has told me periods are no big deal in her age group for boys or girls. It's just a fact of life and boys will even get period products for girls caught unaware.

None of the men in my life have ever had a problem with it. I can attest none of become women after touching a tampon box.



I would pay to see a protest where women AND men throw tampons at Vance and Trump.

Time for some tampon cookies!

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

So - firstly, let’s remember that Walz did not write the bill. It was passed by the state legislature and then came to his desk for a signature. He signed it due to the overall concept being a good one. It was a much larger bill that included many things.

The bill, which was written and passed by not the governor, had general language that stated “must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12”. Hyperbole has been used to elevate this to a threat of a tampon being in a boys bathroom - oh the horror. I actually do agree it would be a bad idea to put a supply in every boys bathroom because it is a waste of money, and the products would likely be used by mischievous boys to do something they thought was funny. Schools don’t need to be funding that kind of stuff.

The clause of “all” is probably in there and vague so schools have to put them in all the bathrooms instead of having the supplies in the nurse’s office behind lock and key, or have the teachers keep supplies so girls have to wad up TP , walk around school, find someone who they trust, ask them in front of other students, walk through the halls with the products back to the bathroom, take care of business and get back to class - all during their 6 minute passing period.

So -[mention]scgal [/mention] - don’t waste energy being angry about this. The alarm bells are ringing over a deliberate misunderstanding of the law.

www.cbsnews.com/news/tampon-tim-walz-minnesota-law-schools-bathrooms-period-poverty/

2 quotes from that article:

The Minnesota law, however, doesn't specify in which bathrooms the menstrual supplies must be located; instead, it requires school districts to develop plans to ensure all students who menstruate can access free tampons and pads, Lacey Gero, director of government relations at the advocacy group Alliance for Period Supplies, told CBS MoneyWatch.

The bill, which boosted education funding in the state by $2.3 billion, included many other measures, such as new funding for early childhood education and adding civics and personal finance courses in high schools.

[Tennesseer]

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

Aug 7, 2024 17:58:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Oh for Pete's sake. Having them in all bathrooms makes sense. If one is out the other will probably have it.

And there are conditions besides being trans that might nesscitate a boy needing a pad.



Gwen has told me periods are no big deal in her age group for boys or girls. It's just a fact of life and boys will even get period products for girls caught unaware.

None of the men in my life have ever had a problem with it. I can attest none of become women after touching a tampon box.



I would pay to see a protest where women AND men throw tampons at Vance and Trump.

Time for some tampon cookies!

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

And if all the stalls in the ladies bathroom are full, and a female student is in emergency mode, she should just stand there and soil herself instead of using the empty men's room next door, right?

[tallguy]

Aug 8, 2024 8:32:26 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

So - firstly, let’s remember that Walz did not write the bill. It was passed by the state legislature and then came to his desk for a signature. He signed it due to the overall concept being a good one. It was a much larger bill that included many things.

The bill, which was written and passed by not the governor, had general language that stated “must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12”. Hyperbole has been used to elevate this to a threat of a tampon being in a boys bathroom - oh the horror. I actually do agree it would be a bad idea to put a supply in every boys bathroom because it is a waste of money, and the products would likely be used by mischievous boys to do something they thought was funny. Schools don’t need to be funding that kind of stuff.

The clause of “all” is probably in there and vague so schools have to put them in all the bathrooms instead of having the supplies in the nurse’s office behind lock and key, or have the teachers keep supplies so girls have to wad up TP , walk around school, find someone who they trust, ask them in front of other students, walk through the halls with the products back to the bathroom, take care of business and get back to class - all during their 6 minute passing period.

So -[mention]scgal [/mention] - don’t waste energy being angry about this. The alarm bells are ringing over a deliberate misunderstanding of the law.

www.cbsnews.com/news/tampon-tim-walz-minnesota-law-schools-bathrooms-period-poverty/

2 quotes from that article:

The Minnesota law, however, doesn't specify in which bathrooms the menstrual supplies must be located; instead, it requires school districts to develop plans to ensure all students who menstruate can access free tampons and pads, Lacey Gero, director of government relations at the advocacy group Alliance for Period Supplies, told CBS MoneyWatch.

The bill, which boosted education funding in the state by $2.3 billion, included many other measures, such as new funding for early childhood education and adding civics and personal finance courses in high schools.

You know how bad an idea it is to try and fight ignorance and stupidity with logic and reason, right?  I should know, I've tried to do it for decades.  

[tbop77]

I hope the GOP keeps saying and doing just plain ole stupid things.  Proves they have nothing to offer.  Seriously, of all the issues, they are worried about tampons.  lol, you can't make this up!  

[scgal]

Aug 8, 2024 7:27:59 GMT -5 Opti said:

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

In an emergency tampons can be stuffed up a nostril to contain the bleeding of a bloody nose. Pads can be put into underwear to stop embarrassing leakage or other issues. Adult or kid sized diapers are generally not in supply in US restrooms.

So there's my two possibilities of the top of my head. I am sure there are more .

Personally it is not a big deal but right is right and wrong is wrong. Males do not use women feminine products so in such they do not belong in their restroom. If you want to bring up basic first aid needs yes I can see that. They are not overlapping

[tallguy]

Aug 8, 2024 8:51:39 GMT -5 scgal said:

Aug 8, 2024 7:27:59 GMT -5 Opti said:

In an emergency tampons can be stuffed up a nostril to contain the bleeding of a bloody nose. Pads can be put into underwear to stop embarrassing leakage or other issues. Adult or kid sized diapers are generally not in supply in US restrooms.

So there's my two possibilities of the top of my head. I am sure there are more .

Personally it is not a big deal but right is right and wrong is wrong. Males do not use women feminine products so in such they do not belong in their restroom. If you want to bring up basic first aid needs yes I can see that. They are not overlapping

I would suggest that #3427 is probably accurate.  A vaguely-written law is the likely cause, and it has nothing to do with anything that should upset you.     

[cyanne]

Aug 8, 2024 9:07:25 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Aug 8, 2024 8:51:39 GMT -5 scgal said:

Personally it is not a big deal but right is right and wrong is wrong. Males do not use women feminine products so in such they do not belong in their restroom. If you want to bring up basic first aid needs yes I can see that. They are not overlapping

I would suggest that #3427 is probably accurate.  A vaguely-written law is the likely cause, and it has nothing to do with anything that should upset you.     

As a Minnesota resident who teaches at a high school the post #3427 is accurate. The law does not say that feminine hygiene products must be in boys bathrooms. At the school I work at we have boys, girls and gender neutral single bathrooms. No products are in the boys restrooms. You may unclutch your pearls now.

ETA: We don’t have cat boxes in the restrooms either.

[thyme4change]

Aug 8, 2024 8:37:08 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Aug 8, 2024 8:32:26 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

So - firstly, let’s remember that Walz did not write the bill. It was passed by the state legislature and then came to his desk for a signature. He signed it due to the overall concept being a good one. It was a much larger bill that included many things.

The bill, which was written and passed by not the governor, had general language that stated “must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12”. Hyperbole has been used to elevate this to a threat of a tampon being in a boys bathroom - oh the horror. I actually do agree it would be a bad idea to put a supply in every boys bathroom because it is a waste of money, and the products would likely be used by mischievous boys to do something they thought was funny. Schools don’t need to be funding that kind of stuff.

The clause of “all” is probably in there and vague so schools have to put them in all the bathrooms instead of having the supplies in the nurse’s office behind lock and key, or have the teachers keep supplies so girls have to wad up TP , walk around school, find someone who they trust, ask them in front of other students, walk through the halls with the products back to the bathroom, take care of business and get back to class - all during their 6 minute passing period.

So -[mention]scgal [/mention] - don’t waste energy being angry about this. The alarm bells are ringing over a deliberate misunderstanding of the law.

www.cbsnews.com/news/tampon-tim-walz-minnesota-law-schools-bathrooms-period-poverty/

2 quotes from that article:

You know how bad an idea it is to try and fight ignorance and stupidity with logic and reason, right?  I should know, I've tried to do it for decades.  

If I say it out loud, it reminds me to stay informed when I get all worked up about something that I am being told, when in reality ai am falling for the bullshit.

[minnesotapaintlady]

Aug 8, 2024 9:30:08 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Aug 8, 2024 8:37:08 GMT -5 tallguy said:

You know how bad an idea it is to try and fight ignorance and stupidity with logic and reason, right?  I should know, I've tried to do it for decades.  

If I say it out loud, it reminds me to stay informed when I get all worked up about something that I am being told, when in reality ai am falling for the bullshit.

I am probably going to have to give up social media for the next few months because the disinformation being perpetuated out there is mind numbing.

The latest is all the attacks on Walz for "abandoning" the National Guard when his unit was called to serve overseas. The MAGA crowd is going nuts with this.

The truth is, he was enlisted for TWENTY FOUR YEARS, and decided to retire to run for office instead.  He had to apply to retire months before he actually did, left in the Spring and it was in the FALL...months later...that his unit was called.  It's not like they got the call and he said "yeah, I'm done". 

Stuff like that is so maddening to me.

I'm glad Harris is shutting down all the "LOCK HIM UP" chanting at her rallies and actively trying to discourage division between Americans.

[Tennesseer]

Aug 8, 2024 9:48:16 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Aug 8, 2024 9:30:08 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If I say it out loud, it reminds me to stay informed when I get all worked up about something that I am being told, when in reality ai am falling for the bullshit.

I am probably going to have to give up social media for the next few months because the disinformation being perpetuated out there is mind numbing.

The latest is all the attacks on Walz for "abandoning" the National Guard when his unit was called to serve overseas. The MAGA crowd is going nuts with this.

The truth is, he was enlisted for TWENTY FOUR YEARS, and decided to retire to run for office instead.  He had to apply to retire months before he actually did, left in the Spring and it was in the FALL...months later...that his unit was called.  It's not like they got the call and he said "yeah, I'm done". 

Stuff like that is so maddening to me.

I'm glad Harris is shutting down all the "LOCK HIM UP" chanting at her rallies and actively trying to discourage division between Americans.

Article dated today.

What to know about Gov. Tim Walz's military record and Sen. JD Vance's accusations of 'stolen valor'

[billisonboard]

Okay JD, you want to play military service games. Your fellow Marines were still fighting in Afghanistan when you chose not to reelected in 2007. They were still fighting when you chose not to seek a commission and rejoin them when you graduated from college. They were still fighting when you chose not to seek a position with the JAG Corps when you graduated from law school. And they were fighting the whole time you didn't join any Reserve component. 

I wouldn't fault you for any of those choices, until you open yourself up by attacking a fellow vet for his choice. 

[tbop77]

How many groups of voters can Trump/Vance alienate with their name calling and insults?  

Let Trump be Trump
Let Vance be Vance

[Tennesseer]

I am surprised Vance has not brought up former president Obama was too chicken to enlist and fight in the Vietnam War.

[Opti]

Aug 8, 2024 8:51:39 GMT -5 scgal said:

Aug 8, 2024 7:27:59 GMT -5 Opti said:

In an emergency tampons can be stuffed up a nostril to contain the bleeding of a bloody nose. Pads can be put into underwear to stop embarrassing leakage or other issues. Adult or kid sized diapers are generally not in supply in US restrooms.

So there's my two possibilities of the top of my head. I am sure there are more .

Personally it is not a big deal but right is right and wrong is wrong. Males do not use women feminine products so in such they do not belong in their restroom. If you want to bring up basic first aid needs yes I can see that. They are not overlapping

If you are saying right is right and wrong is wrong, it is a big deal to you in specific. If you were more neutral you would just go with I don't agree with this
or
something like, my school district does not have the money to stock all the bathrooms with these paper products. We've decided the single stall bathrooms and the girls bathrooms are sufficient.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Aug 7, 2024 23:32:59 GMT -5 Opti said:

Aug 7, 2024 23:11:20 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

It was a phone call and someone recorded it.

Sorry if I am incorrect, I tend to forget finer details. Because of security, the default for the Royals and the WH would be calls are recorded. The issue is that was released to the press to make Charles look bad, and it was not an official leak sanctioned by Royals above Charles.

His phone call was hacked by a newspaper.  Nothing to do with a recording as security.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

Aug 7, 2024 17:58:20 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Oh for Pete's sake. Having them in all bathrooms makes sense. If one is out the other will probably have it.

And there are conditions besides being trans that might nesscitate a boy needing a pad.



Gwen has told me periods are no big deal in her age group for boys or girls. It's just a fact of life and boys will even get period products for girls caught unaware.

None of the men in my life have ever had a problem with it. I can attest none of become women after touching a tampon box.



I would pay to see a protest where women AND men throw tampons at Vance and Trump.

Time for some tampon cookies!

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

Maybe because boys will help a girl out if she needs it?  What difference does it make if there are period products in a boy's restroom?  It's not automatically going to change boys into transvestites, but what it just *might* do is normalize the presence of these products in some boy's lives such that when they encounter them with a girlfriend in the future, they don't turn into raving idiots when they see them.  They might also learn a little about what actually happens to dispel some of the ignorance.

Regardless, none of this is a bad thing.  So perhaps you could tell me why YOU think this is a bad thing? That is, unless boys are brought up to be idiots and waste the products.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Aug 8, 2024 8:36:27 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Aug 8, 2024 7:13:05 GMT -5 scgal said:

What...Why? I cannot think of 1 good reason to have tampons and pads in a boys bathroom not one. You mentioned if one is out then the other may have it. Why by that logic if you are out in your bathroom you should have some by your couch. The boys bathroom is for boys not girls. 

And if all the stalls in the ladies bathroom are full, and a female student is in emergency mode, she should just stand there and soil herself instead of using the empty men's room next door, right?

I have been known to use the other gender's bathroom.....more than once.  There are very few woman out there that have not used one.

[Cookies Galore]

Aug 8, 2024 12:54:13 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Aug 8, 2024 8:36:27 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

And if all the stalls in the ladies bathroom are full, and a female student is in emergency mode, she should just stand there and soil herself instead of using the empty men's room next door, right?

I have been known to use the other gender's bathroom.....more than once.  There are very few woman out there that have not used one.

I have zero issue using the men's room if the women's room line is too long. I'm also completely fine with gender-neutral multi stall bathrooms. We're all there to do the same things.

[chiver78]

Aug 8, 2024 13:19:15 GMT -5 Cookies Galore said:

Aug 8, 2024 12:54:13 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

I have been known to use the other gender's bathroom.....more than once.  There are very few woman out there that have not used one.

I have zero issue using the men's room if the women's room line is too long. I'm also completely fine with gender-neutral multi stall bathrooms. We're all there to do the same things.

 the men's room stalls are often WAY cleaner than the ones in the women's rooms, too. women are gross. 

[minnesotapaintlady]

Aug 8, 2024 13:25:53 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Aug 8, 2024 13:19:15 GMT -5 Cookies Galore said:

I have zero issue using the men's room if the women's room line is too long. I'm also completely fine with gender-neutral multi stall bathrooms. We're all there to do the same things.

 the men's room stalls are often WAY cleaner than the ones in the women's rooms, too. women are gross. 

Right?  I cannot believe how horrible some women leave bathrooms.  Like leaving the toilet unflushed and full of crap with a pee soaked toilet seat liner draped over the side (I literally just encountered this last week at work and about puked.  I also took care of it so the next person wouldn't have to be as disgusted as I was.)

[Opti]

Aug 8, 2024 12:45:13 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Aug 7, 2024 23:32:59 GMT -5 Opti said:

Sorry if I am incorrect, I tend to forget finer details. Because of security, the default for the Royals and the WH would be calls are recorded. The issue is that was released to the press to make Charles look bad, and it was not an official leak sanctioned by Royals above Charles.

His phone call was hacked by a newspaper.  Nothing to do with a recording as security.

How did the newspaper get his phone number

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Aug 8, 2024 13:25:53 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Aug 8, 2024 13:19:15 GMT -5 Cookies Galore said:

I have zero issue using the men's room if the women's room line is too long. I'm also completely fine with gender-neutral multi stall bathrooms. We're all there to do the same things.

 the men's room stalls are often WAY cleaner than the ones in the women's rooms, too. women are gross. 

That's really not my experience.  They still stand to pee, even in a stall and it still splatters urine.  

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Aug 8, 2024 13:56:11 GMT -5 Opti said:

Aug 8, 2024 12:45:13 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

His phone call was hacked by a newspaper.  Nothing to do with a recording as security.

How did the newspaper get his phone number

They didn't.  This was the generally accepted excuse.  Realize, back then cell phone signals and even cordless phone signals could be easily intercepted.

Daily Mirror editor Richard Stott says that the tape was recorded and brought to the paper by a Merseyside resident “who had had a few pints of lager and a curry and decided he would test out his latest gadget, an electronic homing device that picks up Cellnet signals.” Charles was staying nearby, and apparently the amateur radio enthusiast stumbled on the call and immediately recognized the prince’s voice.