kids names

[Artemis Windsong]

Parents do need to figure out how a name can be  used to tease.

[jerseygirl]

Aug 22, 2022 17:08:12 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

Parents do need to figure out how a name can be  used to tease.

and initials

[TheOtherMe]

Aug 22, 2022 14:41:08 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Aug 22, 2022 14:26:13 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Being a Beatles fan, I know lots of people who have named sons and daughters Lennon.  Not a parenting fail at all.  Most of these were younger fans who started following the music of the Beatles in the last 10 years.  I know of people naming kids Harrison and McCartney, too.  Some have used Starr but I only know of people using Ringo for pets.

I'm always a little puzzled by that style of naming.  Why not John, George and Paul?

But each to their own   And, as I mentioned, I definitely have issues when it comes to names!

In the 60's, I named my parakeet Ringo!  I would never have named a child that.

I have one acquaintance, who I do not consider a friend, from my Paul touring days who legally changed her first name to McCartney.  She is one of the few Beatles people I regret ever having met but it can't be avoided when you go on a group tour.

Had I had a son when I was in my childbearing years, it would definitely have been named Benjamin, which is how the cat was named Benjamin.

[TheOtherMe]

For some reason my mom did not like the name of my great niece.  It is Kaylie.  Never sounded bad to me and mom could never explain why she didn't like it.  She told my niece she was going to call her Kay.  She got told she was not going to call her Kay unless the child shortened her name when she got older.  She started high school today and still goes by Kaylie.  

My mom had a very unique name.  In her 90 years, she never met another person with her name.  It must get hard trying to name 16 kids.

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Aug 22, 2022 18:00:52 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Aug 22, 2022 14:41:08 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

I'm always a little puzzled by that style of naming.  Why not John, George and Paul?

But each to their own   And, as I mentioned, I definitely have issues when it comes to names!

In the 60's, I named my parakeet Ringo!  I would never have named a child that.

I have one acquaintance, who I do not consider a friend, from my Paul touring days who legally changed her first name to McCartney.  She is one of the few Beatles people I regret ever having met but it can't be avoided when you go on a group tour.

Had I had a son when I was in my childbearing years, it would definitely have been named Benjamin, which is how the cat was named Benjamin.

Off topic, but I envy you that you saw your favorite artists in concert several (many?) times.

I loved me some Prince from the time I was a young girl, when his music was kinda inappropriate for me to listen to. I was so sad when he died, and I regretted then and still do, that I’d never been to one of his concerts.

[TheOtherMe]

Yes many times for both Paul and Ringo.  I never saw John.  I regret to this day that I didn't see George when he toured Japan with Eric Clapton after I was working.  The tour group I was going to the UK with went.  Turned out George and Eric were on the same flight to New York.  So they got to have nice conversations with both of them because it was such a small group.

I could not have done all of this had I been married and had kids.  It did allow me to see so many places and things I would probably have never seen.  

Now I have been to the UK enough that I wouldn't consider going with a tour.  Times change and I know too many people who live there and will get me where I need to go.

I also traveled a lot with my basketball team.  Lots of those places were not places where I would ever care to go again but many were.  

[alabamagal]

Aug 22, 2022 11:44:39 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Aug 22, 2022 11:33:30 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

Friends of ours have a kid named Lennon. I’m guessing that is spelling since they say he was named after Beatles guy. But I just think of Lenin. And kid is 2 and has a mullet - another bad parent choice.

Did they cut it intentionally in a mullet or hair just isn't even yet?

It was intentional, cut short on the side and past shoulder length in the back.

[alabamagal]

Aug 22, 2022 13:25:17 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Apparently, 'Bubba" is a real name. 
Don't name your kids Bubba.

In sports world Bubba Wallace (NASCAR racer) and Bubba Watson (golf).

My DD calls her younger daughter Bubby, but she is just 1 and think that will go away soon.

[teen persuasion]

Aug 22, 2022 14:39:53 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Both of my kids names were really just names we liked. Ds has my middle name (Rae) as his 2nd middle name - meaning it's not used.

Ds has dh's last name and dc has my last name. A random comment I made years before having kids that I don't like how woman's surnames just disappear and thought boys should carry dad's name, and girls their moms. When we were pregnant our marriage wasn't technically legal and it was going to cost 2-3k to have a lawyer draw up paperwork to mirror rights and responsibilities of a marriage that I really didn't want to spend. I said that my biological kids should have dh's last name which is what we did with ds and was my plan with dc. We argued a bit, but I'm glad my last name has gone on at least 1 more generation. That first year or so, people who knew us, but didnt KNOW us were weirded out by the different last names. I think the assumption was that dc was my affair baby.

DD1 kept her maiden name after marriage (it's *her* name, and being military first it was easier to keep it the same).  DGS has her last name, too.

[weltschmerz]

Aug 22, 2022 19:01:06 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

Aug 22, 2022 13:25:17 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Apparently, 'Bubba" is a real name. 
Don't name your kids Bubba.

In sports world Bubba Wallace (NASCAR racer) and Bubba Watson (golf).

My DD calls her younger daughter Bubby, but she is just 1 and think that will go away soon.

Those are nicknames, however, and not their given names.   It doesn't appear on their birth certificates, does it?
Bubba Wallace's real name is William Darrell Wallace.
Gerry Lester is Watson.
I'm wondering if anyone actually names their kid Bubba. It sounds like a pejorative.

[weltschmerz]

Aug 22, 2022 19:01:06 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

Aug 22, 2022 13:25:17 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Apparently, 'Bubba" is a real name. 
Don't name your kids Bubba.

In sports world Bubba Wallace (NASCAR racer) and Bubba Watson (golf).

My DD calls her younger daughter Bubby, but she is just 1 and think that will go away soon.

Bubby is Grandma in Yiddish. Zaideh is Grandpa.

[giramomma]

I took DH's last name. I figure if I could take the ring, I could take the name. 

That said, we also got married young and I didn't really have a "career." I finished my first masters 3 months before we got married My job was a make do job, not a career job. I was published in a national journal after marriage. I did use my maiden name for that, and my new last name.

SIL got married after 40. She kept her maiden name, which, I totally get.

[finnime]

I kept my birth surname for both my marriages. I will use my married name socially if someone wants to call me that, but not otherwise. I never saw a reason to change my name. I also write and paint, and wanted to have my own name for professional purposes.

[raeoflyte]

I don't have a career worth speaking of and dh and I were committed before I even graduated high-school. But my name is my name. Why would I give that away. I don't get the ring piece at all. If it was about starting your own family then both would take a new name. When it's just the woman, it's about control, optics, and because that's what's always been done.

Maybe with social media it's easier to find people but I think about women like my mom who changed names with both husband's how easy it is to get lost from your past.

I get there is a convenience piece if siblings have the same last name. Spelling out 2 long names is a pain in the a$$ and scheduling multiple appointments takes even longer when their systems arent cross referenced. My kids were introduced to each other once at school by staff who didn't know they were related. But the headaches are short lived worth it imo. Who knows what my kids will do with their names as adults.

For Christmas cards we address them from a combo of our last names. I know that upset at least one of my moms friends. We get cards addressed to my family name, his family name, both names, and sometimes just first names.

[daisylu]

Aug 22, 2022 14:49:04 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Just remembered, our 2nd choice in name for dc was Cordelia. But their 3d ultrasound picture looked exactly like me - and even when they was born, they looked so much like me that I just thought the teen years would be awful looking like me with an out there name. They looks nothing like me now though so maybe we should have gone for it.

3rd choice was Mary Jane. Figured we'd call her Janie. But she was born the year the state was lobbying to legalize recreational Marijuana. I asked everyone I knew what they would think of the name. 85% said they'd assume we were pot heads. 10% thought we must be big Spiderman fans.

DC actual name is a nickname and every baby girl we met those first 6 months was that name or a variation of it. I really thought about changing it. Doesn't seem to be as much of an issue in school. Only 1 other kid with the name and it was pronounced differently.

My Mom's (65yo) name is Mary Jane. And my Dad's name is Joseph. Try going through Catholic school with parents with those names.

[NoNamePerson]

Aug 23, 2022 7:54:49 GMT -5 daisylu said:

Aug 22, 2022 14:49:04 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Just remembered, our 2nd choice in name for dc was Cordelia. But their 3d ultrasound picture looked exactly like me - and even when they was born, they looked so much like me that I just thought the teen years would be awful looking like me with an out there name. They looks nothing like me now though so maybe we should have gone for it.

3rd choice was Mary Jane. Figured we'd call her Janie. But she was born the year the state was lobbying to legalize recreational Marijuana. I asked everyone I knew what they would think of the name. 85% said they'd assume we were pot heads. 10% thought we must be big Spiderman fans.

DC actual name is a nickname and every baby girl we met those first 6 months was that name or a variation of it. I really thought about changing it. Doesn't seem to be as much of an issue in school. Only 1 other kid with the name and it was pronounced differently.

My Mom's (65yo) name is Mary Jane. And my Dad's name is Joseph. Try going through Catholic school with parents with those names.

Had to laugh at this! Mother was in rehab and end result was going to be nursing home. The staff at rehab kept referring to her as “sister so and so” due to her name. They felt she would get first choice of space in local catholic facility that accepted sisters and priest first. It took all I could do to keep a straight face when I found out about this and showed up as her daughter for discussion of future plans. And not catholic! But you couldn’t get more biblical than her given and married name together.    

I remember a few times being asked how to spell my last name and just telling them to look it up in the bible. Long long ago !  

[TheOtherMe]

DN1's wife kept her first name.  She said she never considered taking DN1's surname.  In her case, she is known in academia by her given name and that factored in to the decision.  Their son has DN1's surname.

A good friend in Boulder had been married 3 times when I knew her.  After the 3rd divorce, she went to court and legally changed her name to a name that respecting both her Russian Jewish heritage and the name was beautiful to her.  She married again and had told him from the start the legal name was her forever name.

[NoNamePerson]

I gave serious consideration to taking back my maiden name when divorced. Then I thought about when my son might marry. Names on invitation would be his dad’s name and my name with different last name. I didn’t want anyone to think I had gone insane and remarried. 

[weltschmerz]

Aug 23, 2022 10:02:39 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

DN1's wife kept her first name.  She said she never considered taking DN1's surname.  In her case, she is known in academia by her given name and that factored in to the decision.  Their son has DN1's surname.

A good friend in Boulder had been married 3 times when I knew her.  After the 3rd divorce, she went to court and legally changed her name to a name that respecting both her Russian Jewish heritage and the name was beautiful to her.  She married again and had told him from the start the legal name was her forever name.

Here in Quebec, it's compulsory to keep your maiden name, since 1981.    It's the law.
Husbands can come and go, but a woman's name stays the same throughout her lifetime.

[jerseygirl]

Aug 23, 2022 18:19:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Aug 23, 2022 10:02:39 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

DN1's wife kept her first name.  She said she never considered taking DN1's surname.  In her case, she is known in academia by her given name and that factored in to the decision.  Their son has DN1's surname.

A good friend in Boulder had been married 3 times when I knew her.  After the 3rd divorce, she went to court and legally changed her name to a name that respecting both her Russian Jewish heritage and the name was beautiful to her.  She married again and had told him from the start the legal name was her forever name.

Here in Quebec, it's compulsory to keep your maiden name, since 1981.    It's the law.
Husbands can come and go, but a woman's name stays the same throughout her lifetime.

Never heard about this, very cool!!

[weltschmerz]

Aug 23, 2022 18:57:01 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Aug 23, 2022 18:19:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Here in Quebec, it's compulsory to keep your maiden name, since 1981.    It's the law.
Husbands can come and go, but a woman's name stays the same throughout her lifetime.

Never heard about this, very cool!!

From Greece to France to the Netherlands, Spain and Italy, Belgium and Japan....there are plenty of countries where women keep their maiden names upon marriage.
Why should she lose her identity to become Mrs. Hubandsname?  

[jerseygirl]

Aug 23, 2022 21:57:31 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Aug 23, 2022 18:57:01 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Never heard about this, very cool!!

From Greece to France to the Netherlands, Spain and Italy, Belgium and Japan....there are plenty of countries where women keep their maiden names upon marriage.
Why should she lose her identity to become Mrs. Hubandsname?  

Yes I know it’s common
But never heard of a law for this

[weltschmerz]

Yeah, it's been the law for a good while now. You can't use your husband's name, even if you want to.

[NastyWoman]

Aug 23, 2022 23:58:15 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Yeah, it's been the law for a good while now. You can't use your husband's name, even if you want to.

See that is where it differs with the Netherlands. There you can use your husband's name, your maiden name, switch back and forth as the mood strikes you. Whatever you lime. And at least until 15 or so years ago (this may or may not have changed - I have no clue nor interest) you could legally keep that name switching up even after a divorce.  I have occasionally wondered how that worked if a cheating xH remarried with his side piece and his ex-wife decided to cause strife   I am not interested enough to spend any time on looking into that though