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Post by bean29 on Oct 15, 2024 17:17:02 GMT -5
My stomach has been acting up today. No surprise after yesterday. I already had a counseling session scheduled for today, I told her my stomach was acting up and why. She asked if I was going to bail my Mom out and I said no. She asked how I felt about that and I said like a piece of shit. She said I can feel bad about it, and still do what I need to do to enforce my boundaries and protect my peace. The “protect my peace” part is about my Mom hinting that she wants me to bring her to my house. I won’t/can’t do that because she’s already proven to be a horrible houseguest that does what she wants regardless of how I prefer to run my household, and I already have enough problems in my household without adding her to the mix. I am just now beginning to come out of whatever that was that I’ve been in for a couple of months, I can’t risk going back to that dark place, trying to deal with her. I am seriously trying to retire my cape, because I’m not Superwoman after all, I’m just a woman with enough of my own shit to try to deal with and what I’ve been doing for years, trying to take care of other people and make sure they are okay, when they refuse to take responsibility for themselves and their actions, has affected my mental and physical health. So I’m trying to change that. Even though it’s not easy and it makes me feel like shit, because it’s just my nature to try to look after people I care about and try to “fix” stuff for them. Anyway, I hear the suggestions to hire an elder care attorney. I am still trying to recover financially from last year, while also trying to get my shit together as much as I can, so that if I continue with Mister it’s because I want to, and not because I can’t move. Imma be really mad if, while I have all of that going on, I have to spend a bunch of money because of my Mom. “Really mad”, meaning that if I have to take that route, once the dust settles, I might never speak to her again. I absolutely do not want it to come to that, but I know myself well enough to know that it’s a possibility, regardless of how much I love her. I’ve always said that there are 2 things I don’t play about, my children and my money. I’ve let family members play with me about my money a little bit, but I’ve also cut off a relative that was like a sibling to me my whole life, because she played with me about my money, some thousands of dollars that I’d loaned her, and I still don’t really deal with her today, even though that was well over a decade ago. I am still just not in a very good mood today. I’m ready to just go to bed and it’s not even 5pm. Maybe you could get some kind of legal aid attorney to review your mom's stuff? Glad you were able to talk to your counselor today. I worked late getting my taxes together last night. I thought I owed a huge amount of $$, but when I went to check EFTPS to verify my payments it said it was down for maintenance. I printed my 72 page tax return, then went to the bathroom and when I came back to my computer, I was able to get into EFTPS and found that I had another 18,000 in payments that I missed on the front and back end of the year. I filed last night. I wish I had held off so I could do a final tweak, but it is done. Now I have to reprint my tax return. I have to look and see if I can just print selected documents. Many of them won't change. When I talked to DS this am, she thought she had till the 17th. That's b/c of Columbus Day and some other holiday they celebrate in Washington DC causing the filing date to move around. DS is waiting on receipts from her Self-employed DH.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 15, 2024 17:30:44 GMT -5
I locked myself out of my office building. I’m the only one there the rest of the day. I decided to go home for the day. I’ll go in early the next three days to make up for it. 😳
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 15, 2024 17:31:25 GMT -5
Can we please keep the election out of this part of the board? I don't come here for that. Put it in the politics section. Anywhere but here. You’re about 2,000 pages to late! Actually, most of the time it's pretty good. I know Election Day is 21 days from now. I can't think about all the ramifications every day until then. I'm not leaving and Soup has said nothing that triggered me.
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Post by greenthumb59 on Oct 15, 2024 17:36:11 GMT -5
Soup don't leave us. We need your wisdom Wait! What? Soup don't leave!
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Post by greenthumb59 on Oct 15, 2024 17:38:41 GMT -5
My stomach has been acting up today. No surprise after yesterday. I already had a counseling session scheduled for today, I told her my stomach was acting up and why. She asked if I was going to bail my Mom out and I said no. She asked how I felt about that and I said like a piece of shit. She said I can feel bad about it, and still do what I need to do to enforce my boundaries and protect my peace. The “protect my peace” part is about my Mom hinting that she wants me to bring her to my house. I won’t/can’t do that because she’s already proven to be a horrible houseguest that does what she wants regardless of how I prefer to run my household, and I already have enough problems in my household without adding her to the mix. I am just now beginning to come out of whatever that was that I’ve been in for a couple of months, I can’t risk going back to that dark place, trying to deal with her. I am seriously trying to retire my cape, because I’m not Superwoman after all, I’m just a woman with enough of my own shit to try to deal with and what I’ve been doing for years, trying to take care of other people and make sure they are okay, when they refuse to take responsibility for themselves and their actions, has affected my mental and physical health. So I’m trying to change that. Even though it’s not easy and it makes me feel like shit, because it’s just my nature to try to look after people I care about and try to “fix” stuff for them. Anyway, I hear the suggestions to hire an elder care attorney. I am still trying to recover financially from last year, while also trying to get my shit together as much as I can, so that if I continue with Mister it’s because I want to, and not because I can’t move. Imma be really mad if, while I have all of that going on, I have to spend a bunch of money because of my Mom. “Really mad”, meaning that if I have to take that route, once the dust settles, I might never speak to her again. I absolutely do not want it to come to that, but I know myself well enough to know that it’s a possibility, regardless of how much I love her. I’ve always said that there are 2 things I don’t play about, my children and my money. I’ve let family members play with me about my money a little bit, but I’ve also cut off a relative that was like a sibling to me my whole life, because she played with me about my money, some thousands of dollars that I’d loaned her, and I still don’t really deal with her today, even though that was well over a decade ago. I am still just not in a very good mood today. I’m ready to just go to bed and it’s not even 5pm. Hugs Pink!
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Post by finnime on Oct 15, 2024 17:41:06 GMT -5
I'm glad for BT, azucena, that she will finally have the medical care she needs. It must be a special sort of small hell to have a very bad toothache for so long. And I'm very glad she has you, to take her places and talk with her and never hit her. Such a lot of pain in her short life.
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Post by greenthumb59 on Oct 15, 2024 17:43:16 GMT -5
I have been running up and down my little dead end street chasing a cat. One of my neighbor's is looking for their cat, and I really thought this kitty was theirs. I got close enough to take a picture and send it to them. Nope. Not their's. Poor cat I have probably traumatized him.
I've also covered my blooming Japanese anemones cause it's gonna freeze tonight. I've been watering them since August and they are just now getting really pretty. I'm not ready to lose them to Mother Nature yet!
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Post by finnime on Oct 15, 2024 17:45:03 GMT -5
Pink Cashmere, I wish your life was not so hard in important respects, meaning especially your mother and Mister's YD.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Oct 15, 2024 17:46:48 GMT -5
You’re about 2,000 pages to late! Actually, most of the time it's pretty good. I know Election Day is 21 days from now. I can't think about all the ramifications every day until then. I'm not leaving and Soup has said nothing that triggered me. I didn’t see post about soupandstew leaving. I’m behind. My post was a broad swiping of the paint brush used by so many. My bad. I really shouldn’t post here anyway. I’ll stick to memes!
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Post by ners on Oct 15, 2024 17:52:24 GMT -5
Soup don't leave us. We need your wisdom Wait! What? Soup don't leave!
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Oct 15, 2024 17:52:28 GMT -5
Some other news that doesn’t have anything to do with me, Mister text me from work today and said his Aunt G sold her house. I asked where is she planning to live. He said in the town in Mississippi, where she was born. I asked who she is going to live with, he said he doesn’t know.
the land and house that Mister’s Mom’s grandparents owned in that town is still in the family, I’m not sure who lives in the house now. Aunt G hasn’t lived in that town in many decades. But maybe whoever still lives in the family house agreed to let her come live there, idk.
But as far as her house here that she sold goes, because it’s not a house she bought on her own, but a house she and Mister’s Mom inherited from their Mom after she died, I feel like she should’ve asked Mister and his brother if they were interested in buying it before she sold it to a stranger. Mister has actually talked to me several times about maybe wanting to keep that house in the family, and potentially buying it from his Aunt. And I honestly think he probably would’ve done it, if he’d been given the chance, and made it a rental property. But he wasn’t given the chance.
So I told him, well that is Aunt G’s decision to sell the house and move back to her hometown with all of her health issues, so just let it go, and let whoever she’s going to live with there, deal with all of her nonsense and the calls when she keeps ending up in the ER, admitted to the hospital and then rehab because she refuses to take care of herself. That will be something off his plate, because she will be a few hours away, too far to go over to her house to check on her when her friends call him because she’s not answering her phone, like he and his brother have been doing. And when one of them got there, she was on the floor and couldn’t get up, screaming for help when she heard them banging in the door and yelling to see if she was inside. Which led to them keeping track of the extra keys to her house, so they can get inside, and then call paramedics for her.
Lord, please don’t let me be as foolish and uncooperative, and as much of an asshole as some of our old folks have been when I get older. I do want Mister (if I’m still with him) and my children to help me if/when I need it, but I hope and pray that I don’t make it more difficult than it has to be. My Grandmother had Alzheimer’s a few years before she died, but she was cooperative with all of us, except my Mom. She was mean to my Mom. I’ve always said that when my Grandmother’s mind started deteriorating, she forgot a lot of stuff, but she never forgot how mad she had been with my Mom for some years. Because even when she became almost like a child, she was pretty docile and still did whatever we asked her to do when we were trying to tend to her. She was nice and friendly to my daughter one evening when DD was sitting with her, and she didn’t even remember who DD was. Which broke DD’s heart, because my Grandmother was DD’s “lil homie”, that was how DD referred to her, and DD had to go in the bathroom and cry and get herself together after my Grandmother asked her who she was after chatting with her for a while, which basically turned out to be how she would chat with a stranger, since she didn't even know who DD was at the time. My Mom was literally the only person my Grandmother was ever mean to after her mind got bad.
I am rambling again, so I will hush now.
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Post by bean29 on Oct 15, 2024 18:04:43 GMT -5
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 15, 2024 18:08:13 GMT -5
You just had to do that to me,eh? Well, she got me too - and she got me good so don't feel too lonely
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 15, 2024 18:18:24 GMT -5
Soup don't leave us. We need your wisdom Wait! What? Soup don't leave!
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Oct 15, 2024 18:24:02 GMT -5
Pink Cashmere , I wish your life was not so hard in important respects, meaning especially your mother and Mister's YD. Thank you so much. I am trying to remind myself that even with all the bs, I DO still have a lot to be grateful for. Even though I feel like my life is a mess because of other people, the truth is that I do have options to get myself out of most of it, even though my options are distasteful and less than ideal, or even good, from my perspective. I whine and bitch and moan about a lot of stuff, just because I prefer a simple life, and not for things to be so complicated. But just because something is complicated, doesn’t necessarily mean it can’t be addressed and resolved. I just need the courage to do whatever needs to be done. So I am saying that I acknowledge and accept that some of this bullshit in my life is within my power to fix, so when I vent here, it is with me understanding that. I use to say that I had the heart of a warrior, but good Lord, I am just really tired and worn out right now, and I’m tired of fighting here, there and everywhere. I guess even warriors eventually get older and worn out, and still have wisdom to offer as far as fighting battles, even if they are no longer actively engaged in combat. I am old and worn out. I don’t want to fight battles anymore, whether the battle is being a Black woman living in the South dealing with racism, a single parent of adult children that insist on bucking the rules even though they are old enough now that they should know better, a daughter whose one parent that I ever cared about is unruly, a life partner who I really believed was the one for me, for years, but has changed the script on me, and his children who hate my guts even though I’ve never done anything to them or mistreated them in any way, and a job that is so crazy that most people wouldn’t believe all of the shit that goes in there. I am really, really tired of having to fight some kind of battle, every which way I turn. But even with all of that, I try to remember to find something that I am grateful for. And even with all of the bullshit, there is always something that I am grateful for. And I am grateful for that, if that makes sense.
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Oct 15, 2024 18:51:11 GMT -5
Mister just said that he does feel some type of way about his Aunt selling the house and not asking him if he was interested in buying it from her before selling it to a stranger. He is in a mood, so I didn’t ask any questions.
I do wonder how she was able to sell it when she and Mister’s Mom both inherited the house from their Mother, which in my uneducated mind means that Mister’s Mom also owned the house, and her estate has still not been settled. Idk how that works, since Aunt G was not the sole owner of the house. But that is just me being curious, and not me making it a problem I feel like I need to deal with or try to understand. Well, I would really like to understand, just to know how situations like that work in general, but not to try to do anything thing about this specific situation.
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Post by bookkeeper on Oct 15, 2024 18:56:47 GMT -5
I cut the baseboard trim and the toe kick for the cabinets today in my basement bathroom. My miter saw is a piece of junk! I will throw it away as soon as I can source a replacement. I don't cut trim very often, but when I do, I need a saw that cuts. I have had this one at least 30 years so I got my $10 out of it. It was way more work than it should have been with a dull saw.
The trim is all painted to match the wall. I will nail it up and caulk it tomorrow and touch up paint. Well, maybe tomorrow, I have old friends coming for lunch.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 15, 2024 19:04:20 GMT -5
Mister just said that he does feel some type of way about his Aunt selling the house and not asking him if he was interested in buying it from her before selling it to a stranger. He is in a mood, so I didn’t ask any questions. I do wonder how she was able to sell it when she and Mister’s Mom both inherited the house from their Mother, which in my uneducated mind means that Mister’s Mom also owned the house, and her estate has still not been settled. Idk how that works, since Aunt G was not the sole owner of the house. But that is just me being curious, and not me making it a problem I feel like I need to deal with or try to understand. Well, I would really like to understand, just to know how situations like that work in general, but not to try to do anything thing about this specific situation. If the house was inherited by Aunt G and Mister's mom, when Mister's mom died, her sons inherited half of the house. Don't ask me how it was titled and what actually happened, but, yes, the sons of Mister's mom owned half of the house unless they signed their rights away. Legally, she should not have been able to sell it. Here and in Colorado, everything would have fallen apart when the title work was done for closing and they would have to sign for the sale to proceed.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 15, 2024 19:15:09 GMT -5
Mister just said that he does feel some type of way about his Aunt selling the house and not asking him if he was interested in buying it from her before selling it to a stranger. He is in a mood, so I didn’t ask any questions. I do wonder how she was able to sell it when she and Mister’s Mom both inherited the house from their Mother, which in my uneducated mind means that Mister’s Mom also owned the house, and her estate has still not been settled. Idk how that works, since Aunt G was not the sole owner of the house. But that is just me being curious, and not me making it a problem I feel like I need to deal with or try to understand. Well, I would really like to understand, just to know how situations like that work in general, but not to try to do anything thing about this specific situation. If the house was inherited by Aunt G and Mister's mom, when Mister's mom died, her sons inherited half of the house. Don't ask me how it was titled and what actually happened, but, yes, the sons of Mister's mom owned half of the house unless they signed their rights away. Legally, she should not have been able to sell it. Here and in Colorado, everything would have fallen apart when the title work was done for closing and they would have to sign for the sale to proceed. That would depend on how they took title originally though. You can take title so that the joint owner inherits if you die or that your heirs inherit your portion when you die.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 15, 2024 19:24:38 GMT -5
Soup don't leave us. We need your wisdom soupandstew -Yes, what you said about PinkCashmere and Giramomma also applies to you. we would miss you if you left. I Yes to what bean said soup
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Oct 15, 2024 19:32:11 GMT -5
Mister just said that he does feel some type of way about his Aunt selling the house and not asking him if he was interested in buying it from her before selling it to a stranger. He is in a mood, so I didn’t ask any questions. I do wonder how she was able to sell it when she and Mister’s Mom both inherited the house from their Mother, which in my uneducated mind means that Mister’s Mom also owned the house, and her estate has still not been settled. Idk how that works, since Aunt G was not the sole owner of the house. But that is just me being curious, and not me making it a problem I feel like I need to deal with or try to understand. Well, I would really like to understand, just to know how situations like that work in general, but not to try to do anything thing about this specific situation. If the house was inherited by Aunt G and Mister's mom, when Mister's mom died, her sons inherited half of the house. Don't ask me how it was titled and what actually happened, but, yes, the sons of Mister's mom owned half of the house unless they signed their rights away. Legally, she should not have been able to sell it. Here and in Colorado, everything would have fallen apart when the title work was done for closing and they would have to sign for the sale to proceed. That is what I thought, that if Aunt G and Mister’s Mom inherited the house when their Mother died (which they did), when Mister’s Mom died last year, if her estate had been settled properly, her husband, Mister’s Dad, would’ve become an equal owner on his wife’s behalf, and when he died some months later, that meant their sons, Mister and his brother, became the owners of their Mom’s half of of the house. Mister’s Mom’s estate still has not been settled, nor has his Dad’s. Aunt G just told Mister today that she sold the house. He and his brother have not signed anything IRT their Mom also owning the house, giving their interest in the house to Aunt G, so I’m not sure how she was able to sell the house when Mister’s Mom was an equal owner that inherited the house after their Mother died. Maybe that will become an issue when there is a title search during the selling process. Idk. But I just told Mister to not get stressed about it, even though I really do believe that he would've bought the house himself if his Aunt G had just talked to him about it.
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Post by greenthumb59 on Oct 15, 2024 19:37:50 GMT -5
I have dragged out a light coat, a pair of binoculars and I'm trying to see this darn comet! I found a website that said I should be able to see it about 8:45. I am usually in bed by 8:45, watching tv. But I want to see the darn comet!
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Post by greenthumb59 on Oct 15, 2024 19:40:42 GMT -5
If the house was inherited by Aunt G and Mister's mom, when Mister's mom died, her sons inherited half of the house. Don't ask me how it was titled and what actually happened, but, yes, the sons of Mister's mom owned half of the house unless they signed their rights away. Legally, she should not have been able to sell it. Here and in Colorado, everything would have fallen apart when the title work was done for closing and they would have to sign for the sale to proceed. That is what I thought, that if Aunt G and Mister’s Mom inherited the house when their Mother died (which they did), when Mister’s Mom died last year, if her estate had been settled properly, her husband, Mister’s Dad, would’ve become an equal owner on his wife’s behalf, and when he died some months later, that meant their sons, Mister and his brother, became the owners of their Mom’s half of of the house. Mister’s Mom’s estate still has not been settled, nor has his Dad’s. Aunt G just told Mister today that she sold the house. He and his brother have not signed anything IRT their Mom also owning the house, giving their interest in the house to Aunt G, so I’m not sure how she was able to sell the house when Mister’s Mom was an equal owner that inherited the house after their Mother died. Maybe that will become an issue when there is a title search during the selling process. Idk. But I just told Mister to not get stressed about it, even though I really do believe that he would've bought the house himself if his Aunt G had just talked to him about it. I'll just say let the title search folks do their jobs. I hope you have a good evening Pink, and you're feeling better.
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Post by lurkyloo on Oct 15, 2024 19:53:09 GMT -5
Holy crap how does DS have soooo many missing assignments spent like 4–5 hours today trying to get him caught up, those last three will have to wait till tomorrow
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 15, 2024 19:59:19 GMT -5
Mister just said that he does feel some type of way about his Aunt selling the house and not asking him if he was interested in buying it from her before selling it to a stranger. He is in a mood, so I didn’t ask any questions. I do wonder how she was able to sell it when she and Mister’s Mom both inherited the house from their Mother, which in my uneducated mind means that Mister’s Mom also owned the house, and her estate has still not been settled. Idk how that works, since Aunt G was not the sole owner of the house. But that is just me being curious, and not me making it a problem I feel like I need to deal with or try to understand. Well, I would really like to understand, just to know how situations like that work in general, but not to try to do anything thing about this specific situation. If the house was inherited by Aunt G and Mister's mom, when Mister's mom died, her sons inherited half of the house. Don't ask me how it was titled and what actually happened, but, yes, the sons of Mister's mom owned half of the house unless they signed their rights away. Legally, she should not have been able to sell it. Here and in Colorado, everything would have fallen apart when the title work was done for closing and they would have to sign for the sale to proceed. It might depend upon how Mister’s grandma wrote the will. It could have been stipulated that on the death of either Mister’s mom or Aunt G that the entire house goes to the surviving sister. The will might be written this way to make sure Aunt G and Mister’s mom always have a home and it can’t be sold out from under them by the other’s heirs.
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Oct 15, 2024 19:59:48 GMT -5
If the house was inherited by Aunt G and Mister's mom, when Mister's mom died, her sons inherited half of the house. Don't ask me how it was titled and what actually happened, but, yes, the sons of Mister's mom owned half of the house unless they signed their rights away. Legally, she should not have been able to sell it. Here and in Colorado, everything would have fallen apart when the title work was done for closing and they would have to sign for the sale to proceed. That would depend on how they took title originally though. You can take title so that the joint owner inherits if you die or that your heirs inherit your portion when you die. Please trust that I’m not being an asshole when I say that I don’t understand what you are saying. I could probably understand better on one of my good days, and today has not been a good day. All I know is that Mister’s Grandmother owned a house that she had paid off years before she died. She had 2 children, Mister’s Mom and Aunt G. They inherited the house, whether it was through a will or just the lawful order of things, idk. Aunt G moved back into the house at some point, as an adult, before their Mom died. Mister’s Mom was settled into her life with Mister’s Dad, who she married at 19yo, and never had a need to move back into her Mom’s house. Mister did not know that his Mom’s name was on the deed (I guess) to his Grandmother’s house that his Aunt G lived in, until we randomly discovered that fact after his Mom died last year. We didn’t dwell on it, but we did research it enough to learn that Aunt G and his Mom were both the legal owners of the house. Idk what that means as far as titles IRT the house, and honestly, Mister doesn’t seem to really care about all of that. What is bothering him today is that just like my family felt and still feels about how my Mom sold my Grandmother’s house, he feels like his Aunt should’ve told him she was serious about selling it and given him an opportunity to buy it if he wanted to, before she sold it to some random person outside of their family.
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Post by toomuchreality on Oct 15, 2024 20:00:02 GMT -5
Actually, most of the time it's pretty good. I know Election Day is 21 days from now. I can't think about all the ramifications every day until then. I'm not leaving and Soup has said nothing that triggered me. I didn’t see post about soupandstew leaving. I’m behind. My post was a broad swiping of the paint brush used by so many. My bad. I really shouldn’t post here anyway. I’ll stick to memes! You're all good!
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lurkyloo
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Post by lurkyloo on Oct 15, 2024 20:03:58 GMT -5
Putting on my no holds barred hat for Pink’s benefit… What are your mother’s triggers? Does she hate the thought of being a charity case? What gets under her skin? Can you start insisting that she has dementia, since she can’t manage her money well enough to pay her bills, and probably needs a conservator? Someone to dole out her money bit by bit? I think calling APS and embarrassing her any way you can is a good start. She should be embarrassed and ashamed, she can’t manage her money well enough to keep the damn utilities on. Start picking away at any sore spots you can think of. She’s comfortable trying to sponge off you. Make it uncomfortable. She doesn’t have any moral problem exploiting your “weaknesses” (decency). Time to go for the jugular. It sucks about Misters grandmas house I hope they stall out on the sale for lack of dotted i’s and crossed t’s.
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lurkyloo
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“Time means nothing now,” said Toad. “It is just the thing that happens between snacks.”
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Post by lurkyloo on Oct 15, 2024 20:10:11 GMT -5
I constantly marvel at soupandstew’s open mind, positive attitude and patience with people (mostly neighbors) that have gone off the deep end. I hope she’ll stick around.
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Knee Deep in Water Chloe
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 15, 2024 20:16:18 GMT -5
For those with house cleaners - how much are you paying with approximate square footage? I haven't had anyone since before covid. Trying to get an idea of cost before I start looking for quotes. $40/hour for one person who brings all of their own stuff--even garbage bags. I have them do 1800sf of floors that include hardwood, carpet, and linoleum; one full bathroom including the shower; one half bathroom; all kitchen counters including the stovetop; the kitchen sink. It takes typically takes 3.5 hours. I have more areas of the hosue they could clean, and sometimes I add other areas or trade out some of the regular stuff for other stuff I need done.
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