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Post by azucena on Sept 10, 2024 8:37:56 GMT -5
Pink (and others) - FWIW, I feel like my take on current women's styles is evolving right alongside my religious journey. For me, I kinda need to be unprogrammed if that makes sense. All I heard growing up and reinforced over and over was modesty, modesty, modesty. Even just a few years ago when DD16 was a tween, I was convinced that leggings shouldn't be worn as pants in most settings. I think part of it was DD had a young woman's body starting around age 11 or 12 and I got hung up on that. Meanwhile DD12 is thin as a rail and I've evolved to think that leggings are fine. It's a weird warp in my own mind and I'm working on it and def have apologized to DD16 for my hang ups. I'm still slightly stuck on crop tops but working on it.
It's also weird that I'm not touching parenting bonus teen's fashion with a ten foot pole. She has a tremendous sense of style such that she's constantly getting complimented by teens and adults when we're out. I also feel like she's mostly body positive and I don't want to ruin that and I'm leaning completely in to teaching her so, so much other real world stuff that she was never taught.
Likely doesn't help that my own personal style is comfort over fashion all indoctrination aside. I'm not sure I can ever get used to seeing sports bras being worn as tops to high school. And the whole, it's okay to show underboob is completely foreign to me.
Anyway, it's complicated but I can see where Pink is coming from, but I'd also lean towards it not being my role to guide YD fashion since she's already a young adult.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 10, 2024 8:42:06 GMT -5
Is it safe to come in here now? My wife never had any problems that I was aware of. My sister suffered hot flashes. At family events she'd be sweating and carrying a towel and complaining.
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Post by cooper88 on Sept 10, 2024 8:48:11 GMT -5
Totally off topic, but the trash truck this morning really needs to be oiled or something. It was making horrendous screeching noises when it emptied the trash cans. It set off a doggie neighborhood alert, and it took them about ten minutes to discuss it fully.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Sept 10, 2024 8:49:05 GMT -5
perimenopause question, for those a little older than me - I've had the weird sleep patterns for awhile now, among other symptoms some of you have mentioned. Shark Week hit yesterday, a full 2 weeks later than expected. is this just how it is now, that it arrives whenever? just curious what to expect. TIA. I'm pushing 56 and so far have not had any symptoms (that I know of) and am still fairly regular although I was never great at tracking, so if it's late or a month is skipped here and there I most likely wouldn't notice anyhow.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 10, 2024 8:49:59 GMT -5
Totally off topic, but the trash truck this morning really needs to be oiled or something. It was making horrendous screeching noises when it emptied the trash cans. It set off a doggie neighborhood alert, and it took them about ten minutes to discuss it fully. Ahhh…the blissful quiet of rural living!
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Post by toomuchreality on Sept 10, 2024 9:05:11 GMT -5
Ugh. I just couldn't! When I took people with me, up to my family cabin, they had to agree to kill all the spiders, for me, in order to go. Haha I would totally do that as long as you agree to chase away all the critters. There are plenty of critters. But they stay outside. So I can handle that. Although I don't wrangle raccoons. People have been seeing flying squirrels, along with the deer and elk, this year. Occasionally a mountain lion, or a a bear, is seen on someone's ring doorbell, but not often. I stay up high, on the deck and observe it all. It's very pretty scenery.
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Post by giramomma on Sept 10, 2024 9:06:55 GMT -5
I am not caught up on this thread, imma go back and read to catch up. Something is bothering me, that I have just briefly mentioned before. It is about how YD dresses, and when I did mention it andi9899 said that YD is an adult and too old for people to be concerned about what she is wearing. I understand and agree that even if a woman is butt naked, that doesn’t give anyone the right to mistreat or abuse her in any way. But at the same time, as a woman myself, and as a mother of a daughter, I feel like it is a bad idea for a young woman to be out in public in what is not much more than a bikini that would be worn at a pool or on a beach. I had a conversation years ago, with a relative that is older than me, and I told her that we (women) can be sexy with how we dress, without revealing all of our goodies for the world to see. For me, that meant that if I wore a top that put my (nonexistent without “help”) cleavage on display, my bottom half didn’t need to be exposed too. Or if I wore short shorts, my top half didn’t have to be nearly naked. My point was that a woman can be attractive and sexy without showing everything there is to see about her body. And that is what I am dismayed about with YD. I am sure that she would say that she dresses the way she does, just because she wants to. But even though I am old now, if we could have an honest conversation, I would tell her that I got plenty of action and attention from men, without me going out half naked and with my butt cheeks hanging out. It’s not really my business how she dresses, as andi pointed out. I am just stating the reasons that I have with how YD often dresses, which is my mind has more to do with her and her safety more than it does with me and my life. I’m not sure that this is not the in thing. At my niece’s wedding, I know of at least 3 boobs that escaped their dresses. This was a formal wedding. All of these were in the 24-28 age group, and NONE of them thought anything of it, just tucked the boob back in and went on their way. Well, to be fair though, at 24, I wouldn't have cared if my boob escaped, either, if they were my 24 year old boobs. Even at like 20. I went skinny dipping with a nice med school type before I started seeing DH. I'd probably care if my frankenboob escaped. Because frankenboob. I'm still not always comfortable with it, even though they really did quite a nice job. And, also wedding. I'd argue weddings/special occasions are different than routine. We always frame everything for the kids as appropriateness. It doesn't demonize more adult behavior. DD1 is going to be a teacher. Her boobs falling out of her shirt routinely in a class room. Not appropriate. If DS wore short shorts with his boxers in the workplace and sat so everyone got a nice shot of his boys weekly, I'd argue that's not appropriate, either. I'm pretty sure both would get a talking to from supervisors. However, these choices somewhere else? Boobs falling at the bar, dance floor or party, eh? I mean. I got a glimpse of DS's boys at home last year. Nothing I haven't seen on him before. My parents gave me the same talk that pink is talking about: sometimes more is more alluring than less. And similar to pink's experience, I did get noticed wearing more clothing than not. For me, the real question is what's the motivation. Wearing it because you are doing you? Great. Wearing it to get noticed? Well, maybe it might be good to do some introspection about that. And, it's also on us to understand why we notice others, no matter what the state of dressed is. I don't notice men, but I do notice women. It's on me to fix. But, I'm really not interested in doing the work to fix it. I did that once. So, I like to have my pat little phrase that I try to remember to trot out as much as possible when those thoughts cross my mind.
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Post by daisylu on Sept 10, 2024 9:07:16 GMT -5
Was having no luck luring gnats into a trap with apple cider vinegar. Refilled them with homemade fire cider yesterday and got them all.
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Post by bookkeeper on Sept 10, 2024 9:08:20 GMT -5
The plumber was just here to cap the water lines to my bathroom sink. Next up, demo the countertop and remove the mirror before Friday. I have ordered quartz countertops with undermounted sinks to go in two bathrooms in this house. I can't wait!! This project has been creeping along since April. Remember when I had no water heater and went for a shower at the state park near me?
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Post by giramomma on Sept 10, 2024 9:12:37 GMT -5
perimenopause question, for those a little older than me - I've had the weird sleep patterns for awhile now, among other symptoms some of you have mentioned. Shark Week hit yesterday, a full 2 weeks later than expected. is this just how it is now, that it arrives whenever? just curious what to expect. TIA. I don't know. I have PCOS. Irregularity and arriving whenever is just part of my norm, especially now that I'm on tamoxifen. I would say, though, if something is really awry, get checked out. One of the reasons I think we ended up with the missy is that I got my dates screwed up because of mid-cycle bleeding due to a fibroid. If I knew I was fertile, I would have pushed for two forms of BC. But, I just figured peri-menopause+PCOS. One form was enough. They found the fibroid when i had my viability scan and asked me about it.
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Post by giramomma on Sept 10, 2024 9:15:20 GMT -5
I have minimal motivation today.
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Post by soupandstew on Sept 10, 2024 9:19:45 GMT -5
I just killed an enormous brown recluse. I hate living next to the woods but just put in an offer on a mostly wooded property. Make that make sense. The only spiders I kill are the recluse and a black widow. A recluse bite can cause lifelong problems, and we have them in our urban yards too. They are NOT on my list of good critters.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 10, 2024 9:21:01 GMT -5
I’m not sure that this is not the in thing. At my niece’s wedding, I know of at least 3 boobs that escaped their dresses. This was a formal wedding. All of these were in the 24-28 age group, and NONE of them thought anything of it, just tucked the boob back in and went on their way. Well, to be fair though, at 24, I wouldn't have cared if my boob escaped, either, if they were my 24 year old boobs. Even at like 20. I went skinny dipping with a nice med school type before I started seeing DH. I'd probably care if my frankenboob escaped. Because frankenboob. I'm still not always comfortable with it, even though they really did quite a nice job. And, also wedding. I'd argue weddings/special occasions are different than routine. We always frame everything for the kids as appropriateness. It doesn't demonize more adult behavior. DD1 is going to be a teacher. Her boobs falling out of her shirt routinely in a class room. Not appropriate. If DS wore short shorts with his boxers in the workplace and sat so everyone got a nice shot of his boys weekly, I'd argue that's not appropriate, either. I'm pretty sure both would get a talking to from supervisors. However, these choices somewhere else? Boobs falling at the bar, dance floor or party, eh? I mean. I got a glimpse of DS's boys at home last year. Nothing I haven't seen on him before. My parents gave me the same talk that pink is talking about: sometimes more is more alluring than less. And similar to pink's experience, I did get noticed wearing more clothing than not. For me, the real question is what's the motivation. Wearing it because you are doing you? Great. Wearing it to get noticed? Well, maybe it might be good to do some introspection about that. And, it's also on us to understand why we notice others, no matter what the state of dressed is. I don't notice men, but I do notice women. It's on me to fix. But, I'm really not interested in doing the work to fix it. I did that once. So, I like to have my pat little phrase that I try to remember to trot out as much as possible when those thoughts cross my mind. I don't know shorty shorty shorts seemed to be required by law if you were a P.E. teacher in the early 90s. We talk about appropriateness too. Gwen gets instructed about that in orchestra a lot because she plays cello which requires holding the instrument between her legs. If she's not wearing pants or a long skirt you can see EVERYTHING. That is not appropriate for an orchestra player. Everyone needs to wear all black or black/white because you are supposed to be uniform and the focus is supposed to be on the music. Going to the farmer's market? Don't care what you wear. Going to church with MIL we're going to screen what you wear a little more rigidly because we don't want MIL to have a heart attack. Should it matter? No. Do I think God really cares? No. But it's out of respect for your grandma you don't let it hang out at church. And there are some clothes that are inherently sexual whether we want it to be or not. I had a conniption when I found out that Gwen bought a sheer bustier to wear as a top. No that is underwear. I don't care those are back in fashion it was underwear/bedroom attire then and it is now. No way is my middle school daughter going to wear that as a freaking top. If she is an adult and wants to wear one as a top to me that is different she's old enough to understand the connotations and she's an adult I don't tell her what to do anymore. A 13 year old isn't old enough to understand the societal message a bustier sends out. ETA: In regards to the bustier she got it off Shein. I wasn't paying close enough attention to what she was ordering. Now I make her send me her cart and I approve before she's allowed to buy it.
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Post by soupandstew on Sept 10, 2024 9:21:38 GMT -5
We are very fortunate that TS Francine will not have major impacts on Texas, but I know we have Louisiana posters. I wish y'all safety and a quick recovery from the storm . Please check in and let us know how you're doing
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Post by azucena on Sept 10, 2024 9:49:49 GMT -5
Got bonus teen off to school. Pray and cross all your extremities that it's a good day.
Also got DD12 to go too so I'm batting 1000. She stayed home yesterday after waking up nauseous but then devoured lunch so we had a nice talk about how that's prob a physical symptom of her anxiety. I may have fibbed a little and said she has play rehearsal today after school to get her to go. Schedule posted online isn't clear.
In the midst of all this, DD12 auditioned and was one of three 6th graders to land an ensemble role in Matilda; her current fav musical. DD16 also auditioned and will be playing Ms Peacock in Clue.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 10, 2024 10:01:31 GMT -5
Ocean's Eleven is just starting on TNT, for those of you who stream background noise all day like I do. you're welcome
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Post by azucena on Sept 10, 2024 10:05:55 GMT -5
One of my good friends who is looped in on my current home life and has a medical background keeps hounding me via text to review her resume. She's quickly losing any and all friendship points.
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Post by soupandstew on Sept 10, 2024 10:20:50 GMT -5
One of my good friends who is looped in on my current home life and has a medical background keeps hounding me via text to review her resume. She's quickly losing any and all friendship points. Sounds like she is going for the gold in the insensitivity competition
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Post by Cookies Galore on Sept 10, 2024 10:27:10 GMT -5
perimenopause question, for those a little older than me - I've had the weird sleep patterns for awhile now, among other symptoms some of you have mentioned. Shark Week hit yesterday, a full 2 weeks later than expected. is this just how it is now, that it arrives whenever? just curious what to expect. TIA. Everything being wonky is your life now. I'm on team Mirena and will ride the IUD train through menopause. I haven't had a period in 10 years and the plan is to never have one again!
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Post by swamp on Sept 10, 2024 10:48:12 GMT -5
perimenopause question, for those a little older than me - I've had the weird sleep patterns for awhile now, among other symptoms some of you have mentioned. Shark Week hit yesterday, a full 2 weeks later than expected. is this just how it is now, that it arrives whenever? just curious what to expect. TIA. expect the unexpected. You will also be hot, sweaty, and bitchy.
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Post by giramomma on Sept 10, 2024 11:02:14 GMT -5
One of my good friends who is looped in on my current home life and has a medical background keeps hounding me via text to review her resume. She's quickly losing any and all friendship points. I'd be doling out points of ineptitude.
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Post by andi9899 on Sept 10, 2024 11:31:39 GMT -5
perimenopause question, for those a little older than me - I've had the weird sleep patterns for awhile now, among other symptoms some of you have mentioned. Shark Week hit yesterday, a full 2 weeks later than expected. is this just how it is now, that it arrives whenever? just curious what to expect. TIA. Everything being wonky is your life now. I'm on team Mirena and will ride the IUD train through menopause. I haven't had a period in 10 years and the plan is to never have one again! That's my plan too. It's working well so far.
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Post by finnime on Sept 10, 2024 11:44:27 GMT -5
You'll be reading something on your computer when your face turns red and you feel the heat overtaking every part of your body. You'll sweat hard, dripping down your face and drenching your top. People will ask inane questions like, are you done with that, and your training as a girl will keep you from fileting them. You'll step away from a group and spread your fingers to get as much air as possible on you. It's a hard years-long time to go through. Your periods will come and stay for maybe months or just disappear for most of a year. You will learn to always carry spare clothing for when what you started with is too hot to bear, and soaking wet with sweat.
You will be so glad when it's over.
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Post by moneysquirrel on Sept 10, 2024 11:55:05 GMT -5
We are very fortunate that TS Francine will not have major impacts on Texas, but I know we have Louisiana posters. I wish y'all safety and a quick recovery from the storm . Please check in and let us know how you're doing I usually don't post on this thread but thought I would respond to this. I am getting prepared as much as I can. As of now the path is to my west so I will be getting the "dirty" side of it. I do have the rest of today and part of Wednesday morning before the major winds and rain hit. I filled up on Sunday when I picked up only a few grocery items. (After Katrina, I pare down my freezer as much as I can during the summer. My freezer in the garage in unplugged.) And the one with the fridge only have a few items in it. I have been consistently eating out of it. Currently I am doing laundry, running the dishwasher and my routine cleaning. I have already secured my windows (thanks to the shutters I had installed last year) on the first floor. Plants have been moved closer to the house and blockaded as much as possible. I did get some extra cash yesterday in case we lose power and stores can't run registers. OK, just got notified that my RXs are ready to pick up so I will be getting that done within the hour. Thanks for checking on us
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Post by Cookies Galore on Sept 10, 2024 12:07:21 GMT -5
perimenopause question, for those a little older than me - I've had the weird sleep patterns for awhile now, among other symptoms some of you have mentioned. Shark Week hit yesterday, a full 2 weeks later than expected. is this just how it is now, that it arrives whenever? just curious what to expect. TIA. The timeline definitely gets skewed. Ovaries take turns, so if one starts slowing down, but the other is still on schedule, you will start noticing maybe 15 days between, and then maybe 30 days or 40 days. FTR, I never experienced common symptoms either when younger or when things started changing. I just considered the whole process an inconvenient royal pain in the a$$. I am 10 years done now, but last year I experienced symptoms of a prelude to a monthly event and that confused the hell out of me. I am trying to be delicate because guys do participate in this thread and not everyone is comfortable with the topic. I think these are our bodies, these are the realities of our bodies, and if you live with someone with ovaries and a uterus then you damn well better understand what our bodies go through. I'm not in this world to make my existence comfortable for others.
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Sept 10, 2024 12:23:22 GMT -5
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUt it's the new way!! I did multiplication on my fingers!! Of course I hated math with a passion but it worked for me. Also glad my son had a natural aptitude for math cause counting on me to help with homework would have been a disaster yeah, no. it's a power trip for the teacher, or whoever is insisting it's this way or nothing. same argument as whatever the hell "new math" was back in the 80s. I missed that by a few years, and I'm thankful. I tried to figure some of it out as an adult and was completely lost. if the student is showing the work that brings them to a correct answer, then they got the answer correct. end of story. I am wayyyy behind, but this was a struggle I had trying to help DS with his math homework. I kept trying, but I just could not understand the way he was being taught to do it. He didn’t understand it either, which is why I was trying to help him. I showed him how I was taught to do it, which he did understand. Even with the correct answer, he still lost points because the steps he used to get the correct answer was not the way he was being taught at school.
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Post by taz157 on Sept 10, 2024 12:58:49 GMT -5
yeah, no. it's a power trip for the teacher, or whoever is insisting it's this way or nothing. same argument as whatever the hell "new math" was back in the 80s. I missed that by a few years, and I'm thankful. I tried to figure some of it out as an adult and was completely lost. if the student is showing the work that brings them to a correct answer, then they got the answer correct. end of story. I am wayyyy behind, but this was a struggle I had trying to help DS with his math homework. I kept trying, but I just could not understand the way he was being taught to do it. He didn’t understand it either, which is why I was trying to help him. I showed him how I was taught to do it, which he did understand. Even with the correct answer, he still lost points because the steps he used to get the correct answer was not the way he was being taught at school.That really sucks!!! He got the answer correct!
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Post by giramomma on Sept 10, 2024 13:08:19 GMT -5
I am also losing patience very quickly. This is the time I would go out for a walk or something. But, I can't leave my computer.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Sept 10, 2024 13:10:02 GMT -5
Well, TD got a nap in and the weather cleared so we did the Ring of Kerry. We stopped at a few pull outs for photos. What a freaking spectacular drive! My sister warned us that the buses go counterclockwise, so try to go clockwise, which made sense. The road barely fits 2 small cars side by side. A bus takes a good 18” of the other lane, so you need to pull over as far as possible. Along the way, we had to stop for sheep that wandered into the cow path road. Utterly spectacular views though, I hope the pics came out ok.
We stopped and got an early dinner, then went back to the hotel where 2 bus loads of people were checking in. Reception was a mess. Tomorrow they have to be ready to leave by 8 for their next tour, so think we will avoid breakfast until later. We are here tonight, onto Limerick tomorrow.
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Post by cooper88 on Sept 10, 2024 13:11:01 GMT -5
perimenopause question, for those a little older than me - I've had the weird sleep patterns for awhile now, among other symptoms some of you have mentioned. Shark Week hit yesterday, a full 2 weeks later than expected. is this just how it is now, that it arrives whenever? just curious what to expect. TIA. expect the unexpected. You will also be hot, sweaty, and bitchy. And sometimes you will also feel stabby.
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