what are you doing right now?

[andi9899]

Dec 14, 2023 8:47:48 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Dec 14, 2023 8:37:28 GMT -5 soupandstew said:

That sounds wonderful - we only use whole grain breads.  When I googled "brown bread" this is what I got bmbeans.com/product/brown-bread-plain/  which to me feels more like a dessert than bread

and this is where my brain went first - link

🤢

[giramomma]

Looking into another line of work is tricky.

Most people can't look outside of the the box to evaluate someone based on transferrable skills. Or being willing to let folks develop a few skills to the level they need to be for the job.

Or, folks hiring don't know what they want. Or they know what they want, but they don't really articulate it well.

Which is why who you know is the most important thing.

Drama's lab network isn't going to land her a job outside of the lab context.

Folks that don't work in a lab probably aren't going to be creative enough to see what skills from a lab transfer to non-lab work.

And, she can't tell her network that she's looking for a job in a new lab, because that will be career suicide.

Pretty soon my options are going to be to suck it up and stay in a toxic place for another 8/9 years or go back to school and retrain in a completely new field. 

[andi9899]

So these are going viral right now. I may or may not have ordered the deep v version in black and white since they were on BOGO. My friend is trying to convince me to go out on NYE and wear one. I might. I never go out for NYE. I would definitely wear the bodysuit out with jeans or some other pants though and I think the white one would be pretty against my skin color.

www.egccstudio.com/products/deep-v-neck-lace-thong-bodysuit

[giramomma]

Two jobs that I applied for, and landed first round interview, in my job area....were a crap show.

One job, they could have hired me if they also hired a subject matter expert. They wanted someone with my expertise that has had trades expertise. Which doesn't exist. They posted the job 3 times. 

I applied the to second posting. And I was like "why the heck did you post what that. I'm not what you want."

Another job I applied for was very close to what I do. That one,, I made it to the second round interview. I was not selected. The person that was quit after a few weeks. They posted the job again. I applied and wasn't given an interview, even though I got a second interview before. Then, they reposted the position, again, and added a few lesser positions underneath. I would have considered applying for the lesser positions, because the pay was still comparable, but those positions were short lived, 18-24 months). I can't take a 2 year position, and then be out of work for a year or more with the kids at home until I land another position.  (It's been 9 months of applying).

Now that I have expertise under my belt, folks won't hire me for a more junior position, even if the pay range is similar.

If folks can't see how my expertise can translate into something else, I can't get a comparable job.

[NoNamePerson]

Dec 15, 2023 9:55:25 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So these are going viral right now. I may or may not have ordered the deep v version in black and white since they were on BOGO. My friend is trying to convince me to go out on NYE and wear one. I might. I never go out for NYE. I would definitely wear the bodysuit out with jeans or some other pants though and I think the white one would be pretty against my skin color.

www.egccstudio.com/products/deep-v-neck-lace-thong-bodysuit

 go for it. I love it and I'm old as dirt and would wear it but it wouldn't be a very pretty sight  

[andi9899]

Dec 15, 2023 8:19:23 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I got invited to go to happy hour with some of my coworkers.

It was nice to be invited but I've used up all my spoons not crying or rage quitting this week.

DH thinks it would be good and healthy for me to interact with other humans.

I want to be a bitter gremlin and stalk the holiday section at my favorite thrift store instead.

I just can't...I'm so livid about that meeting and she had nothing to back up all the shit she was saying about me.

We'll see if I get blocked from the three internal jobs then go from there. I'll likely start branching out using the advice the career coach gave me.

Ugh. Moving doesn't bother me it's been that way since I started working. It's just dumb. I don't expect to stay till I get a gold watch but I'd at least like to not work for sociopaths for awhile. I haven't had that since I left academics.

Corporate is better my ass. Old YM was full of it.

I agree that human interaction would be good for you. I say go and blow off steam. You don't have to drink if you don't want to.

[bean29]

Dec 15, 2023 8:12:16 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Well, this is really not a good time to start feeling blue. I don't know if it's hormone related or what.

I always feel down at Christmas.  Co-ordinating everything and working full time is really beyond me.  It will get better for me after the holidays.

[minnesotapaintlady]

Dec 15, 2023 9:45:54 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Looking into another line of work is tricky.

Most people can't look outside of the the box to evaluate someone based on transferrable skills. Or being willing to let folks develop a few skills to the level they need to be for the job.

Or, folks hiring don't know what they want. Or they know what they want, but they don't really articulate it well.

Which is why who you know is the most important thing.

Drama's lab network isn't going to land her a job outside of the lab context.

Folks that don't work in a lab probably aren't going to be creative enough to see what skills from a lab transfer to non-lab work.

And, she can't tell her network that she's looking for a job in a new lab, because that will be career suicide.

Pretty soon my options are going to be to suck it up and stay in a toxic place for another 8/9 years or go back to school and retrain in a completely new field. 

It can be but she's not making much working in the lab either, so entry level, "no experience necessary" at something else might not be a big step down income-wise and if it's a job you're not miserable at might be worth the pay cut.

One of my past coworkers started working with a dog grooming business in the evenings and weekends.  No training, just learned from the owner.  After about a year of that she opened her own shop out of her house and quit here.  She's killing it!  Always busy and sets her own hours.

[Cookies Galore]

Having a leisurely sit with some coffee at the airport. I can't wait to see my kitty babies! And my spouse.

[Opti]

Dec 15, 2023 9:34:32 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Dec 14, 2023 8:47:48 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

and this is where my brain went first - link

🤢

It can also be homemade, but yes when I think of brown bread I think of breads like that.

[Opti]

Dec 15, 2023 10:00:43 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

Dec 15, 2023 9:55:25 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So these are going viral right now. I may or may not have ordered the deep v version in black and white since they were on BOGO. My friend is trying to convince me to go out on NYE and wear one. I might. I never go out for NYE. I would definitely wear the bodysuit out with jeans or some other pants though and I think the white one would be pretty against my skin color.

www.egccstudio.com/products/deep-v-neck-lace-thong-bodysuit

 go for it. I love it and I'm old as dirt and would wear it but it wouldn't be a very pretty sight  

  Maybe we can have you both buy one in your size and have a pic contest or tik tok ...


Brain is mush. One whole side of mouth plus tongue is recovering. Hope only 4 hours or more when it's safe to eat and I can see what happened.

[Opti]

Scheduled dental for this morning fwiw. Need to find and schedule oral surgeon for the extraction.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Dec 15, 2023 9:15:39 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Dec 15, 2023 8:19:23 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Corporate is better my ass. Old YM was full of it.

Have you considered just nuking the whole lab job thing entirely and looking at another line of work?  Maybe it's just a bad fit? 

Yeah I'm toying with it. I picked the brain of the hiring manager for one of the jobs I went for and he suggested with my background consider QA and regulatory.

I tried for an EPA position in the CB plant. It's requirements were pretty much bachelor's and breathing. I meet those.

I would really have to twist to get into anything reasonably paid for customer service but it's an option on the table come the new year.

Right now I'm not going to rage apply if I can avoid it.

I always find something. I may never find a long term gold watch home but I find something. It's not a matter of if but when.

[TheOtherMe]

Dec 15, 2023 8:23:04 GMT -5 gs11rmb said:

Dec 14, 2023 16:30:21 GMT -5 Opti said:

Since my claim won't be settled AND I am working without pay in order to not get fired ... and hopefully keep my income stream into 2024. 

What do you mean you're working without pay to not get fired?  That's illegal.

I don't think she is working without pay.  She isn't going to work to actually get paid.  I don't think not paying an employee who isn't showing up for work is illegal?  Why does any business have to pay an employee who is out of time off when they don't show up for work?  

Many people would be out of paid time off as long as she has been out sick.  If you don't have the leave, you don't get paid.  

I don't think she is working from home.  If she is, she is spending a lot of time on this site, which I doubt would make the employer happy.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Dec 15, 2023 9:34:32 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Dec 14, 2023 8:47:48 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

and this is where my brain went first - link

🤢

www.daringgourmet.com/vollkornbrot-german-whole-grain-seed-bread/

This is more like what I expected when CG’s DIL talks about brown bread.  It’s very good, but I can understand why a child would prefer white bread.  It’s very chewy and really doesn’t make a good sandwich.  It’s more of a slather with really good butter, pate or steak tartar (which is how I had it too).  

[minnesotapaintlady]

Dec 15, 2023 11:28:38 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Dec 15, 2023 9:15:39 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Have you considered just nuking the whole lab job thing entirely and looking at another line of work?  Maybe it's just a bad fit? 

Yeah I'm toying with it. I picked the brain of the hiring manager for one of the jobs I went for and he suggested with my background consider QA and regulatory.

I tried for an EPA position in the CB plant. It's requirements were pretty much bachelor's and breathing. I meet those.

I would really have to twist to get into anything reasonably paid for customer service but it's an option on the table come the new year.

Right now I'm not going to rage apply if I can avoid it.

I always find something. I may never find a long term gold watch home but I find something. It's not a matter of if but when.

That's what I'm doing with my biology degree. 

I could actually move up to full blown QE if I wanted.  They only require a technical degree and so many years of experience in the industry.  I'm totally content where I'm at at this stage of the game though and don't want to go salary. 

[lurkyloo]

I would like my insecurities to lay off for a while now please.  Sometimes I can use them for motivation but right now I’m just tired.

[Opti]

Dec 15, 2023 11:28:38 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Dec 15, 2023 9:15:39 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Have you considered just nuking the whole lab job thing entirely and looking at another line of work?  Maybe it's just a bad fit? 

Yeah I'm toying with it. I picked the brain of the hiring manager for one of the jobs I went for and he suggested with my background consider QA and regulatory.

I tried for an EPA position in the CB plant. It's requirements were pretty much bachelor's and breathing. I meet those.

I would really have to twist to get into anything reasonably paid for customer service but it's an option on the table come the new year.

Right now I'm not going to rage apply if I can avoid it.

I always find something. I may never find a long term gold watch home but I find something. It's not a matter of if but when.

i think 2024 is a good time for me to reevaluate as well. Life while underfunded is beyond old.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Dec 15, 2023 9:45:54 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Looking into another line of work is tricky.

Most people can't look outside of the the box to evaluate someone based on transferrable skills. Or being willing to let folks develop a few skills to the level they need to be for the job.

Or, folks hiring don't know what they want. Or they know what they want, but they don't really articulate it well.

Which is why who you know is the most important thing.

Drama's lab network isn't going to land her a job outside of the lab context.

Folks that don't work in a lab probably aren't going to be creative enough to see what skills from a lab transfer to non-lab work.

And, she can't tell her network that she's looking for a job in a new lab, because that will be career suicide.

Pretty soon my options are going to be to suck it up and stay in a toxic place for another 8/9 years or go back to school and retrain in a completely new field. 

Yep.  This pretty much sums it up.  Working in a lab gives you different skills from most jobs and those skills are often not translatable.  

And giramomma, if you are considering going back to school to retrain in a new field, sooner is better than later.  In my experience, you cannot get your foot in the door in an entry position if you are over 50.  When I tried to cross train into doing CAD for some of the local engineering firms, my age at the time worked against me…..and I was about 56.  I had recruiters tell me that I interviewed well, and my 30+ years of lab experience demonstrated the soft skills needed (reliability, ability to work on a team, ability to write a coherent sentence, etc) but my age was the drawback.  Unfortunately, if I dumbed down my resume, I would have had to eliminate those other skills I had acquired.  If I added them all, they thought I wanted (deserved?) a more advanced position (which I didn’t). 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Well I am out for the senior micro position which is not a shock at all it was a stretch but he encouraged me to apply anyhow so I did.  That's one down.  We'll see if the other two bear fruit.

I am getting tired of being told to talk to my manager.  My manager is a HUGE part of the problem.  Everyone seems to live in la la land where you have a great mentoring relationship with your manager.  Mine is listening to bitching/gossip from the lab tattle tale and trying to give me a bad performance review based on that rather than actually looking into what I do all day.

Not exactly someone I want to have discussions with regarding my career so those can be used behind my back.  If I had it my way they wouldn't know I am looking at all.  This is the first place that I've ever worked that requires fully transparency.  At the university I could say no I don't want my supervisor contacted because it can be awkward and there may be reasons I don't want them knowing.  It may jeopardize my chances if the person interviewing has a stick up their butt BUT it was respected.  They'd contact other references.

Not here.  I'm fucked because my manager and director are the first people they talk to.  I am hoping maybe the other micro might pan out because they know how it is down here and will take things with a grain of salt.

[Opti]

Dec 15, 2023 9:55:25 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So these are going viral right now. I may or may not have ordered the deep v version in black and white since they were on BOGO. My friend is trying to convince me to go out on NYE and wear one. I might. I never go out for NYE. I would definitely wear the bodysuit out with jeans or some other pants though and I think the white one would be pretty against my skin color.

www.egccstudio.com/products/deep-v-neck-lace-thong-bodysuit

Last year you posted a similar thing. Is there any reason why? 

[toomuchreality]

Dec 15, 2023 7:47:14 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Up early to try to get a jump on today. Repeat of yesterday with an added meet and greet for a new pet sitting client, and today's performance is DC piano recital.

Ds orchestra and band concert last night was amazing. I really couldn't believe these were high schoolers and outside of possibly 1 of the jazz bands it didn't look like any of the groups were audition only groups. Really neat to see what the band director has done there.

Good for him/them! I'm impressed by kids who stick it out and play well.
I only lasted through 8th grade, playing clarinet and piano, then I switched to Glee. In high school, there was one guy who could play the piano amazingly. But I didn't find out until the last day of our senior year, when he played an Eric Clapton song (and sang).

[toomuchreality]

Dec 15, 2023 10:07:37 GMT -5 bean29 said:

Dec 15, 2023 8:12:16 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Well, this is really not a good time to start feeling blue. I don't know if it's hormone related or what.

I always feel down at Christmas.  Co-ordinating everything and working full time is really beyond me.  It will get better for me after the holidays.

I usually hold things together until after the first of the year. Then, I don't like anyone (mostly adults).

[lurkyloo]

Dec 15, 2023 12:31:28 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Dec 15, 2023 9:45:54 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Looking into another line of work is tricky.

Most people can't look outside of the the box to evaluate someone based on transferrable skills. Or being willing to let folks develop a few skills to the level they need to be for the job.

Or, folks hiring don't know what they want. Or they know what they want, but they don't really articulate it well.

Which is why who you know is the most important thing.

Drama's lab network isn't going to land her a job outside of the lab context.

Folks that don't work in a lab probably aren't going to be creative enough to see what skills from a lab transfer to non-lab work.

And, she can't tell her network that she's looking for a job in a new lab, because that will be career suicide.

Pretty soon my options are going to be to suck it up and stay in a toxic place for another 8/9 years or go back to school and retrain in a completely new field. 

Yep.  This pretty much sums it up.  Working in a lab gives you different skills from most jobs and those skills are often not translatable.  

And giramomma , if you are considering going back to school to retrain in a new field, sooner is better than later.  In my experience, you cannot get your foot in the door in an entry position if you are over 50.  When I tried to cross train into doing CAD for some of the local engineering firms, my age at the time worked against me…..and I was about 56.  I had recruiters tell me that I interviewed well, and my 30+ years of lab experience demonstrated the soft skills needed (reliability, ability to work on a team, ability to write a coherent sentence, etc) but my age was the drawback.  Unfortunately, if I dumbed down my resume, I would have had to eliminate those other skills I had acquired.  If I added them all, they thought I wanted (deserved?) a more advanced position (which I didn’t). 

It’s not impossible though.  I worked at the bench until just over a year ago and was surprised at how smoothly the transition to project manager went. 

[toomuchreality]

I finally think I'm going to live. I really wondered there, for awhile. And I didn't want to for a while too.
I'm not up doing jumping jacks, but at least I think I'll live.
It's going to take some time and effort to pull myself together. But it's a start!

[andi9899]

Dec 15, 2023 11:33:59 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Dec 15, 2023 9:34:32 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

🤢

www.daringgourmet.com/vollkornbrot-german-whole-grain-seed-bread/

This is more like what I expected when CG’s DIL talks about brown bread.  It’s very good, but I can understand why a child would prefer white bread.  It’s very chewy and really doesn’t make a good sandwich.  It’s more of a slather with really good butter, pate or steak tartar (which is how I had it too).  

That looks pretty good actually. I don't read CG's posts but saw the mentions of brown bread and that weird canned thing chiver posted. When I hear brown bread, I think pumpernickel.

One day I had bought some and then couldn't find it later when I was going to eat it. I started asking if anyone had seen it and the girls' dad said he threw it away because it was bad. He decided that since it waa brown it had to be rotten. I had juat bought it a few days before. Good thing bread is cheap or I would have been pissed.

[andi9899]

Dec 15, 2023 12:43:06 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 15, 2023 9:55:25 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

So these are going viral right now. I may or may not have ordered the deep v version in black and white since they were on BOGO. My friend is trying to convince me to go out on NYE and wear one. I might. I never go out for NYE. I would definitely wear the bodysuit out with jeans or some other pants though and I think the white one would be pretty against my skin color.

www.egccstudio.com/products/deep-v-neck-lace-thong-bodysuit

Last year you posted a similar thing. Is there any reason why? 

Why what? Why I posted something I bought? Because I can. I don't think I understood the question.

[andi9899]

Dec 15, 2023 14:09:00 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

I finally think I'm going to live. I really wondered there, for awhile. And I didn't want to for a while too.
I'm not up doing jumping jacks, but at least I think I'll live.
It's going to take some time and effort to pull myself together. But it's a start!

Glad you're starting to feel better.

[chiver78]

Dec 15, 2023 14:14:45 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Dec 15, 2023 11:33:59 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

www.daringgourmet.com/vollkornbrot-german-whole-grain-seed-bread/

This is more like what I expected when CG’s DIL talks about brown bread.  It’s very good, but I can understand why a child would prefer white bread.  It’s very chewy and really doesn’t make a good sandwich.  It’s more of a slather with really good butter, pate or steak tartar (which is how I had it too).  

That looks pretty good actually. I don't read CG's posts but saw the mentions of brown bread and that weird canned thing chiver posted. When I hear brown bread, I think pumpernickel.

One day I had bought some and then couldn't find it later when I was going to eat it. I started asking if anyone had seen it and the girls' dad said he threw it away because it was bad. He decided that since it waa brown it had to be rotten. I had juat bought it a few days before. Good thing bread is cheap or I would have been pissed.

that weird canned thing is a very New England thing, TYVM.      

(I don't eat it, either....) 

[chiver78]

ahh.....fantastic. I needed to reach out to the pushy woman with a question. it's limiting my ability to submit a legal document for review. bets on how long it takes her to answer? she's seen the request.