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Post by chiver78 on Jul 2, 2023 5:24:10 GMT -5
last night went a little sideways, another neighbor (who has a puppy) texted me to ask how my two were doing bc hers was losing his mind. I went outside to see for myself, and it was legit a professional grade show that was still going strong over an hour after I'd heard the first booms. I'm seriously debating the wisdom of firing up my leaf blower at 7am on the nose, when it's no longer "quiet hours" bc there's still 3 more nights to this weekend.
for real, this is bullshit.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 2, 2023 6:27:37 GMT -5
I’d like to hear y’all’s opinions on this. A few days ago, DD was talking to her Dad, asking if he could help her get a car that cost less than $3k. He said he didn’t have enough money on hand to do that. The very next day, he texted DD, asking what exactly is wrong with the car I helped her buy a couple years ago, that’s just been sitting up. She told him she thinks it’s an alternator and battery issue. He told her to text her the address so his brother could come look at it. When she sent him the address, he said his brother was on the way. His brother came and took the battery and alternator out and told DD to take them with her and go buy new ones. He came back the next morning and installed the new ones. When he was done, he told DD to just give him $200. DD was shocked, because her Dad never said she would have to pay her uncle, and she doesn’t have $200. Her Dad text her yesterday, asking if she was going to send the money to him or to his brother. She called me instead of responding to the text immediately, because she wanted some guidance and she is upset about the whole thing, but didn’t want to say anything crazy to her Dad in the heat of the moment. So my question is, was it unreasonable for her to be bothered when her Dad had to know she doesn’t have any money since she’d literally just asked him to help her out the day before. And was it unreasonable, given the way he just said his brother was on his way to come fix the car, something she didn’t even ask for, for it not to occur to her that she was expected to pay her Uncle? If it were me, I would’ve told her, I can send your uncle over there, but you’re going to have to pay him yourself. I just wouldn’t do things the way her Dad did this. But that’s just me, and I’m curious about what other people think about I don't know that anything is unreasonable. I also have a high bar what is unreasonable than most. I think this falls under lack of communication. When a person doesn't clearly communicate. Shit happens.
What I think you are leaving out is your family culture/history.
To stereotype: We know men tend to be "fixers." DD's Dad, solved her problem. Which DD asked for. She asked for 3k.
So, to me Uncle's behavior isn't out of line. And men can be poor communicators. Or, as DH always says "we aren't mind readers.'
The assumption can be made that she asked for 3K , and didn't have that. Did DD communicate that she has no money at all? Not even money for parts and labor? Because there is a nuanced difference between not having 3K (at this moment) and not having any money at all. (We don't have 15K right now to pay for a new roof. That doesn't mean we don't have 15K).
Is there a culture of paying someone to do things like replace car parts (or repair furnaces, or roofs or whatever manual labor needs fixing.) Or is it a one-off?
If there's no culture of paying someone for their time, then I'd chalk it up as lessons learned, do differently next time. If there was a culture of paying for help, then your DD should have brought up money before parts were bought.
Unless DD's dad is as dysfunctional as my mom is, I'd probably assume that folks are really just trying to help, as unclear as the communication was.
In her situation, I would have probably gone back and fessed up to not having any money at all and offered a payment plan until it gets paid off.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 2, 2023 6:46:09 GMT -5
I think I found a few colors to paint our bedroom. I think we'll probably get a new mattress (ours is 23 years old) and some new bedding.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 2, 2023 7:43:43 GMT -5
DD and the kids just got here. They are spending the night. When I told Mister they were coming over, he said something like “I’m already dealing with my Dad”, and my face must have said what I was thinking when I said that’s why I told them to wait until today, so last night would be peaceful, because he said okay and left it alone. That’s not something he wants me to get started on or riled up about. Even with all the issues and drama, I’ve never even hinted that I didn’t want his children to come over here, or that I needed to approve whatever time or days they do come. Not even here, with all the times I’ve vented here and posters suggested I say they aren’t welcome because of their behavior. I’ve not been like that with his Dad either, even though he kinda irks my soul now. I don’t get to spend much time with my grandchildren since I don’t live close by anymore. Because I work weekends, I really only get to spend time with them and have them spend the night with me, when school is out. At least when my children and grandchildren come over, they try to be respectful and they clean up behind themselves, and help with household tasks without me asking. DS and DGS takes the trash out whenever they sees it’s full and DGS likes sweeping, so he sweeps the floors. DGD1 has a thing about keeping the table in the breakfast nook clean, and she tends to that, keeping it clear and cleaning the table itself. DD has literally taken pictures of a clean load of dishes in my dishwasher so she can try to load it like I do. I don’t expect them to do any of that, so I make sure to tell them thank you when they do it. YD has cleaned the kitchen exactly once. She’s never done any of the things my grandchildren take it upon themselves to do to help out. I wouldn’t care if they didn’t do any of it, but they seem to feel some type of way when I tell them not to, I’ll get it, so I let them do their thing. Girl, you're better than me. I'd have reminded him of how triflin his family I'd and how yours is the complete opposite. You expect me to deal with your crazy family and then when I want to have mine over you want to have an attitude?! Oh hell no! This is just one of the many reasons I am not compatible with commitment/relationships.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 2, 2023 7:54:19 GMT -5
I’d like to hear y’all’s opinions on this. A few days ago, DD was talking to her Dad, asking if he could help her get a car that cost less than $3k. He said he didn’t have enough money on hand to do that. The very next day, he texted DD, asking what exactly is wrong with the car I helped her buy a couple years ago, that’s just been sitting up. She told him she thinks it’s an alternator and battery issue. He told her to text her the address so his brother could come look at it. When she sent him the address, he said his brother was on the way. His brother came and took the battery and alternator out and told DD to take them with her and go buy new ones. He came back the next morning and installed the new ones. When he was done, he told DD to just give him $200. DD was shocked, because her Dad never said she would have to pay her uncle, and she doesn’t have $200. Her Dad text her yesterday, asking if she was going to send the money to him or to his brother. She called me instead of responding to the text immediately, because she wanted some guidance and she is upset about the whole thing, but didn’t want to say anything crazy to her Dad in the heat of the moment. So my question is, was it unreasonable for her to be bothered when her Dad had to know she doesn’t have any money since she’d literally just asked him to help her out the day before. And was it unreasonable, given the way he just said his brother was on his way to come fix the car, something she didn’t even ask for, for it not to occur to her that she was expected to pay her Uncle? If it were me, I would’ve told her, I can send your uncle over there, but you’re going to have to pay him yourself. I just wouldn’t do things the way her Dad did this. But that’s just me, and I’m curious about what other people think about I'm surprised the uncle wants money. If my niece had something broken that I knew how to fix, I'd just fix it for her. Hell, my friend tried to give me gas money for taking him to the airport yesterday and I was like "yeah right, I don't want your money." Why doesn't dad pay the uncle?
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Post by Opti on Jul 2, 2023 8:01:10 GMT -5
I’d like to hear y’all’s opinions on this. A few days ago, DD was talking to her Dad, asking if he could help her get a car that cost less than $3k. He said he didn’t have enough money on hand to do that. The very next day, he texted DD, asking what exactly is wrong with the car I helped her buy a couple years ago, that’s just been sitting up. She told him she thinks it’s an alternator and battery issue. He told her to text her the address so his brother could come look at it. When she sent him the address, he said his brother was on the way. His brother came and took the battery and alternator out and told DD to take them with her and go buy new ones. He came back the next morning and installed the new ones. When he was done, he told DD to just give him $200. DD was shocked, because her Dad never said she would have to pay her uncle, and she doesn’t have $200. Her Dad text her yesterday, asking if she was going to send the money to him or to his brother. She called me instead of responding to the text immediately, because she wanted some guidance and she is upset about the whole thing, but didn’t want to say anything crazy to her Dad in the heat of the moment. So my question is, was it unreasonable for her to be bothered when her Dad had to know she doesn’t have any money since she’d literally just asked him to help her out the day before. And was it unreasonable, given the way he just said his brother was on his way to come fix the car, something she didn’t even ask for, for it not to occur to her that she was expected to pay her Uncle? If it were me, I would’ve told her, I can send your uncle over there, but you’re going to have to pay him yourself. I just wouldn’t do things the way her Dad did this. But that’s just me, and I’m curious about what other people think about Her Dad should have told her about this expectation, but $200 does sound reasonable given it is no longer a $3K problem. I agree its an unpleasant shock, but if Uncle does not have a history of fixing her car for free, its not surprising he might want some compensation. Or maybe DD could pay him $20 a week for 5 weeks and Dad could pay uncle $100 of it since he did not let her know in advance. Google coughed up the labor costs to replace an alternator might be between $150 and $225. DD should have been told, but replacing an alternator I think is not as trivial as replacing a battery. I hope something can be worked out.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 2, 2023 8:22:26 GMT -5
Dh agreed he needed to see a therapist and I offered to help him find someone but he said he'd go to one he knew. He went to her in a Trans group for years and he says that she explained his parents to him, not the other way around. We saw her for couples therapy too and I think she helped dh on things, but I have a lot of anger and resentment over how things I brought up were handled in our sessions. To the point that I was also borrowing problems assuming he'd want me to come with him. That wont be a problem though. Dh looked her up last night and she died last year. She was young. Our age or younger. Dh is broken.
Dh was barely functioning before all of this. Sleeps on his days off. Pulls dinner out of the freezer once a week. I'll have to read back to see when it was that I told dh that I wasn't going to do his laundry anymore. Last night was the first time he's done any. He's gotten by because his job finally got new scrubs, lots of wool staples, and digging out things that hadn't been worn before, but at this point I'm going to treat it as a failed experiment and wash his clothes. I have my own shit I've dropped the ball on repeatedly I need to get under control. I don't have bandwidth for much emotional support and that's what dh wants. But I can do the fucking laundry.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 2, 2023 8:30:56 GMT -5
You know the wizard in the hobbit that is a friend to all woodland creatures and has a birds nest in his hair? The younger two may or may not look like that. I'm also 7 shades frustrated with DH right now. I am repeating myself a lot. Must be something in the air. I just told the missy she had to untie a ribbon and undo buttons on a AG doll outfit. She comes back a minute later having problems because she didn't untie a ribbon and couldn't undo the button.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 2, 2023 8:35:16 GMT -5
I'm so sorry@raeoflyte. That's rough.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 2, 2023 8:43:50 GMT -5
You know the wizard in the hobbit that is a friend to all woodland creatures and has a birds nest in his hair? The younger two may or may not look like that. I'm also 7 shades frustrated with DH right now. I am repeating myself a lot. Must be something in the air. I just told the missy she had to untie a ribbon and undo buttons on a AG doll outfit. She comes back a minute later having problems because she didn't untie a ribbon and couldn't undo the button.
Dc hair is so frequently knotted/matted. I think we finally have the tools and physical ability that dc can get through it themselves, but now the conversation has turned to yes, you have to work on it everyday. Assuming you're not going for the matted/Gandalf look?
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Post by Opti on Jul 2, 2023 9:06:04 GMT -5
Dh agreed he needed to see a therapist and I offered to help him find someone but he said he'd go to one he knew. He went to her in a Trans group for years and he says that she explained his parents to him, not the other way around. We saw her for couples therapy too and I think she helped dh on things, but I have a lot of anger and resentment over how things I brought up were handled in our sessions. To the point that I was also borrowing problems assuming he'd want me to come with him. That wont be a problem though. Dh looked her up last night and she died last year. She was young. Our age or younger. Dh is broken. Dh was barely functioning before all of this. Sleeps on his days off. Pulls dinner out of the freezer once a week. I'll have to read back to see when it was that I told dh that I wasn't going to do his laundry anymore. Last night was the first time he's done any. He's gotten by because his job finally got new scrubs, lots of wool staples, and digging out things that hadn't been worn before, but at this point I'm going to treat it as a failed experiment and wash his clothes. I have my own shit I've dropped the ball on repeatedly I need to get under control. I don't have bandwidth for much emotional support and that's what dh wants. But I can do the fucking laundry. Ouch. Did he find out her cause of death? I hope Dh finds someone else to see and things improve for you both.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 9:07:14 GMT -5
raeoflyte You have a lot going on now for sure
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 2, 2023 9:11:52 GMT -5
They should not have roundabouts in big tourist areas. Half the US has never seen one and doesn't know what to do. It's going to take me 30 minutes to make a 2.5 mile drive.
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Post by daisylu on Jul 2, 2023 9:16:52 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 2, 2023 9:28:45 GMT -5
They should not have roundabouts in big tourist areas. Half the US has never seen one and doesn't know what to do. It's going to take me 30 minutes to make a 2.5 mile drive. welcome to my life.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 2, 2023 9:37:43 GMT -5
Dh agreed he needed to see a therapist and I offered to help him find someone but he said he'd go to one he knew. He went to her in a Trans group for years and he says that she explained his parents to him, not the other way around. We saw her for couples therapy too and I think she helped dh on things, but I have a lot of anger and resentment over how things I brought up were handled in our sessions. To the point that I was also borrowing problems assuming he'd want me to come with him. That wont be a problem though. Dh looked her up last night and she died last year. She was young. Our age or younger. Dh is broken. Dh was barely functioning before all of this. Sleeps on his days off. Pulls dinner out of the freezer once a week. I'll have to read back to see when it was that I told dh that I wasn't going to do his laundry anymore. Last night was the first time he's done any. He's gotten by because his job finally got new scrubs, lots of wool staples, and digging out things that hadn't been worn before, but at this point I'm going to treat it as a failed experiment and wash his clothes. I have my own shit I've dropped the ball on repeatedly I need to get under control. I don't have bandwidth for much emotional support and that's what dh wants. But I can do the fucking laundry. Ouch. Did he find out her cause of death? I hope Dh finds someone else to see and things improve for you both. I'm not sure. I didn't look for a cause.
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Post by finnime on Jul 2, 2023 9:49:48 GMT -5
I hope, raeoflyte, your DH finds the professional help that really benefits him, and that you tackling the laundry gives him a starting place.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jul 2, 2023 10:11:40 GMT -5
Our family doesn't charge for labor. If it's something big, it's tradition to feed them and provide beer or soft drinks.
I have given DN3 gas money as it's now a bit of a drive for him. Nothing extravagant and it doesn't buy much gas.
When my niece was bringing me groceries after my gallbladder surgery, I always rounded up on the check to pay for the groceries.
Beyond that, no money is expected.
Now when BIL had his SIL and two songs replace his roof during a summer SIL was laid off, he paid them. He won't give SIL money when he is laid off, but he will hire him to work on the farm.
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Post by cooper88 on Jul 2, 2023 10:43:13 GMT -5
Well, me being kind of lazy yesterday is definitely not paying off today. It was fun while it lasted, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 10:51:16 GMT -5
While scrubbing down the kitchen this morning, I thought about some posts here and our name, Your Money and More. The name really fits because we talk about money in a variety of ways, and we also talk about much more because, after all, there is more to life than money.
There is the old saying that "money can't buy happiness" and I can definitely see the truth of that here sometimes. It's incredibly sad to see people posting about their accumulation of wealth, and also posting about their loneliness, isolation, and poor quality of physical life, as well as their fear that the $$ will run out before they die.
I certainly don't advocate anyone spending their last dime on hookers and blow (or even Amish chickens), but what good are the extra zeroes in a bank balance if you are miserable? Aging is inevitable and does sometimes bring physical limitations, so finding a balance of wealth building to budgeting for travel or other life pleasures over time seems like a healthier approach than single-minded frugality.
Just Sunday morning reflections.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 2, 2023 10:55:12 GMT -5
Dsis spent all night trying to clean it up enough so that I could come over today. Then had to take roommate to the airport and is exhausted. So no work for me there today. I never should have let it drag out, but what's the saying, it's a marathon not a sprint maybe? I'll go over Tuesday. Maybe I should try to get my life in order.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 2, 2023 11:03:52 GMT -5
I survived getting off the island and back. The bridge has a roundabout on either end. Dunkin screwed up my coffee so it was remade fresh when I got there. The listing page didn't specify a Keurig and that's all I have. If I wasn't also getting coffee for our friends I would have went right into Walmart and knocked out the shopping to allow us to stay on the island. I'll go back later tonight.
I was here last week this same year and don't remember it being this painful on Sunday. I'm parked in my beach chair now.
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Post by Opti on Jul 2, 2023 11:05:17 GMT -5
Water main is supposed to be fixed today and some people are without water entirely. I feel for them as I have been through that too and it sucks more than this. Probably need to start boiling water soon as I am almost out of water for rinsing etc. Need to shred the chicken baked yesterday and wash some dishes. Hope to do some linen laundry before the thunderstorms come. Happy we have a larger window of no rain than was predicted last night.
Remembered I need to use up some red kidney beans so perhaps will make chicken salad or more chicken with stuffing for tomorrow's work lunch. Want to nap, did not sleep well last night, but need to change my bed etc. Moon Shadow is very happy I changed things over last night and he has his beloved pocket again. I owe Crestie some food, he did not touch the recently dead wasp or hornet. Guess I should have put him in earlier when he was obviously fading.
I need to wash Crestie's glass and other things, but I will be lucky to do what I need to today. Right knee and mid back are bothering me, might do some horse stance later and try to straighten my back and knee out. (I'm so out of alignment I think I only lasted three minutes the other day.)
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Jul 2, 2023 11:14:34 GMT -5
I’d like to hear y’all’s opinions on this. A few days ago, DD was talking to her Dad, asking if he could help her get a car that cost less than $3k. He said he didn’t have enough money on hand to do that. The very next day, he texted DD, asking what exactly is wrong with the car I helped her buy a couple years ago, that’s just been sitting up. She told him she thinks it’s an alternator and battery issue. He told her to text her the address so his brother could come look at it. When she sent him the address, he said his brother was on the way. His brother came and took the battery and alternator out and told DD to take them with her and go buy new ones. He came back the next morning and installed the new ones. When he was done, he told DD to just give him $200. DD was shocked, because her Dad never said she would have to pay her uncle, and she doesn’t have $200. Her Dad text her yesterday, asking if she was going to send the money to him or to his brother. She called me instead of responding to the text immediately, because she wanted some guidance and she is upset about the whole thing, but didn’t want to say anything crazy to her Dad in the heat of the moment. So my question is, was it unreasonable for her to be bothered when her Dad had to know she doesn’t have any money since she’d literally just asked him to help her out the day before. And was it unreasonable, given the way he just said his brother was on his way to come fix the car, something she didn’t even ask for, for it not to occur to her that she was expected to pay her Uncle? If it were me, I would’ve told her, I can send your uncle over there, but you’re going to have to pay him yourself. I just wouldn’t do things the way her Dad did this. But that’s just me, and I’m curious about what other people think about I don't know that anything is unreasonable. I also have a high bar what is unreasonable than most. I think this falls under lack of communication. When a person doesn't clearly communicate. Shit happens.
What I think you are leaving out is your family culture/history.
To stereotype: We know men tend to be "fixers." DD's Dad, solved her problem. Which DD asked for. She asked for 3k.
So, to me Uncle's behavior isn't out of line. And men can be poor communicators. Or, as DH always says "we aren't mind readers.'
The assumption can be made that she asked for 3K , and didn't have that. Did DD communicate that she has no money at all? Not even money for parts and labor? Because there is a nuanced difference between not having 3K (at this moment) and not having any money at all. (We don't have 15K right now to pay for a new roof. That doesn't mean we don't have 15K).
Is there a culture of paying someone to do things like replace car parts (or repair furnaces, or roofs or whatever manual labor needs fixing.) Or is it a one-off?
If there's no culture of paying someone for their time, then I'd chalk it up as lessons learned, do differently next time. If there was a culture of paying for help, then your DD should have brought up money before parts were bought.
Unless DD's dad is as dysfunctional as my mom is, I'd probably assume that folks are really just trying to help, as unclear as the communication was.
In her situation, I would have probably gone back and fessed up to not having any money at all and offered a payment plan until it gets paid off.
No, family does not expect to be paid for helping by fixing stuff. We offer, the person usually refuses unless they really need some money. When DS helped me make my Little Rock bed, I sent him some money through Apple Pay for helping me, he sent it right back lol. It was obviously a lack of communication. But the way her Dad did it, I understand why it didn’t occur to DD that she might have to pay her uncle. Her Dad has done things before to help her without her having to pay.
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Jul 2, 2023 11:21:27 GMT -5
DD and the kids just got here. They are spending the night. When I told Mister they were coming over, he said something like “I’m already dealing with my Dad”, and my face must have said what I was thinking when I said that’s why I told them to wait until today, so last night would be peaceful, because he said okay and left it alone. That’s not something he wants me to get started on or riled up about. Even with all the issues and drama, I’ve never even hinted that I didn’t want his children to come over here, or that I needed to approve whatever time or days they do come. Not even here, with all the times I’ve vented here and posters suggested I say they aren’t welcome because of their behavior. I’ve not been like that with his Dad either, even though he kinda irks my soul now. I don’t get to spend much time with my grandchildren since I don’t live close by anymore. Because I work weekends, I really only get to spend time with them and have them spend the night with me, when school is out. At least when my children and grandchildren come over, they try to be respectful and they clean up behind themselves, and help with household tasks without me asking. DS and DGS takes the trash out whenever they sees it’s full and DGS likes sweeping, so he sweeps the floors. DGD1 has a thing about keeping the table in the breakfast nook clean, and she tends to that, keeping it clear and cleaning the table itself. DD has literally taken pictures of a clean load of dishes in my dishwasher so she can try to load it like I do. I don’t expect them to do any of that, so I make sure to tell them thank you when they do it. YD has cleaned the kitchen exactly once. She’s never done any of the things my grandchildren take it upon themselves to do to help out. I wouldn’t care if they didn’t do any of it, but they seem to feel some type of way when I tell them not to, I’ll get it, so I let them do their thing. Girl, you're better than me. I'd have reminded him of how triflin his family I'd and how yours is the complete opposite. You expect me to deal with your crazy family and then when I want to have mine over you want to have an attitude?! Oh hell no! This is just one of the many reasons I am not compatible with commitment/relationships. I would have if he hadn’t left it alone. Arguing is stressful and I am trying to reduce my stress. I know that there is a lot of energy in the house when my grandchildren are here, but at least it’s positive energy.
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Pink Cashmere
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Post by Pink Cashmere on Jul 2, 2023 11:22:58 GMT -5
I’d like to hear y’all’s opinions on this. A few days ago, DD was talking to her Dad, asking if he could help her get a car that cost less than $3k. He said he didn’t have enough money on hand to do that. The very next day, he texted DD, asking what exactly is wrong with the car I helped her buy a couple years ago, that’s just been sitting up. She told him she thinks it’s an alternator and battery issue. He told her to text her the address so his brother could come look at it. When she sent him the address, he said his brother was on the way. His brother came and took the battery and alternator out and told DD to take them with her and go buy new ones. He came back the next morning and installed the new ones. When he was done, he told DD to just give him $200. DD was shocked, because her Dad never said she would have to pay her uncle, and she doesn’t have $200. Her Dad text her yesterday, asking if she was going to send the money to him or to his brother. She called me instead of responding to the text immediately, because she wanted some guidance and she is upset about the whole thing, but didn’t want to say anything crazy to her Dad in the heat of the moment. So my question is, was it unreasonable for her to be bothered when her Dad had to know she doesn’t have any money since she’d literally just asked him to help her out the day before. And was it unreasonable, given the way he just said his brother was on his way to come fix the car, something she didn’t even ask for, for it not to occur to her that she was expected to pay her Uncle? If it were me, I would’ve told her, I can send your uncle over there, but you’re going to have to pay him yourself. I just wouldn’t do things the way her Dad did this. But that’s just me, and I’m curious about what other people think about I'm surprised the uncle wants money. If my niece had something broken that I knew how to fix, I'd just fix it for her. Hell, my friend tried to give me gas money for taking him to the airport yesterday and I was like "yeah right, I don't want your money." Why doesn't dad pay the uncle? I was surprised too. Idk why her Dad didn’t pay his brother.
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Knee Deep in Water Chloe
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jul 2, 2023 11:32:01 GMT -5
They should not have roundabouts in big tourist areas. Half the US has never seen one and doesn't know what to do. It's going to take me 30 minutes to make a 2.5 mile drive. Seriously! Roundabouts terrify me!
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jul 2, 2023 11:32:28 GMT -5
They should not have roundabouts in big tourist areas. Half the US has never seen one and doesn't know what to do. It's going to take me 30 minutes to make a 2.5 mile drive. LOL The state put four roundabouts in a row in our little town last Fall, including one 4 lane one that has been deemed the highest traffic roundabout in MN. This town if full of a bunch of old people (some just old at heart) that don't do change well, so that was an uproar. Eight months later we still have people stopping in the circle to let other people in and/or treating them like a 4 way stop, but it's getting better. I've learned to enter with my hand on the horn after a few people have cut me off just randomly changing lanes inside the circle.
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ners
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Post by ners on Jul 2, 2023 11:32:49 GMT -5
Need to get moving for the day. Need to go grocery shopping.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jul 2, 2023 11:40:29 GMT -5
My family doesn't expect to be paid for labor, but I know that's not the dynamic in every family. I was kind of floored when Ex 2.0 stopped at an ATM to get a $20 to give his mom for gas for giving us a ride back to our vehicle one time when we were kayaking and got stranded too far downstream. It was maybe 15 miles of driving for her. I was even more floored that she didn't turn it down, but in their family the kids pay for all the parent expenses not the other way around.
But, $200 to fix the car is a lot better than 3K to buy a "new" car that might have twice as many issues.
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