Rittenhouse verdict

[bean29]

Nov 21, 2021 19:48:59 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 21, 2021 18:31:18 GMT -5 Opti said:

What is Kyle going to do if people start launching things on fire towards where he is standing with his gun? 

Then I guess the left would get their wish and an 18 year old would die. I sure hope he takes a lot down with him with his AR-15 before he dies, though

I think this post is offensive.  You are saying the left is collectively wishing death on Rittenhouse.  The left wants Justice most of us would just like to see him in jail.  I get that he was found innocent.  I would like to see the laws change, but I don't think they will.  I do think in the future we will see Protest Groups have escorts with semi automatic weapons.  Where will it end and who would want to be a police officer in this environment?

99.9% of the Protesters were just there to protest.  Saying that Kile should take a lot of protesters down with his AR-15 before he dies? That is really F'd up thinking.  I suppose you claim to be Pro-Life too.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 11:14:05 GMT -5 bean29 said:

Nov 21, 2021 19:48:59 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Then I guess the left would get their wish and an 18 year old would die. I sure hope he takes a lot down with him with his AR-15 before he dies, though

I think this post is offensive.  You are saying the left is collectively wishing death on Rittenhouse.  The left wants Justice most of us would just like to see him in jail.  I get that he was found innocent.  I would like to see the laws change, but I don't think they will.  I do think in the future we will see Protest Groups have escorts with semi automatic weapons.  Where will it end and who would want to be a police officer in this environment?

99.9% of the Protesters were just there to protest.  Saying that Kile should take a lot of protesters down with his AR-15 before he dies? That is really F'd up thinking.  I suppose you claim to be Pro-Life too.

As you will see in my later post to Opti, I misunderstood what she was saying about throwing fire. I thought she meant throwing fire to kill Kyle (considering a few other posters had wished death on Kyle around the same time as her post, my line is thinking was there).

No, I do not want anyone to kill a protestor. My comment about Kyle taking as many down with him as he can was under the assumption they were killing him (in other words, I hope he kills the people that are killing him…and I stand by that comment). I clarified myself and my thinking several times after this post

While YOU might not wish Kyle dead, several posters in this thread do. I quoted one of them. So no, I’m not the fucked up one out for blood. I believe in defending yourself but not in actively killing someone that isn’t attacking me. That is the thinking of other board members.

Edited to add: I also do not want to see rioters or counter-rioters rolling up to cities with AR-15 strapped on everyone. There will be bloodshed.

As for who would want to be a cop when that happens? Who would want to be a cop now? The left has crucified all of them because of some bad cops. Cops should do what they did last summer…stand back and let the civilians destroy the cities. No reason why they should try to stop it just because guns are now being brought in.

[andi9899]

Nov 21, 2021 15:52:45 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 21, 2021 15:17:41 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Except only one of them paid for what they did. And rittenhouse gets to live his life

If a police officer had told Rittenhiuse to drop the gun and he didn’t comply, he would be dead right now. That isn’t what happened. You are comparing apples and oranges to fit your narrative.

Kyle was legally allowed to carry that weapon where he was. He was attacked and defended himself. He got lucky because he could have very well been shot by the last guy or had one of the other guys incapacitate him before he could get a shot off

We all know that isn't true. He legit went and told a police officer that he shot someone with an AR strapped to him and they let him go home. Had he been black, he would be dead right now. He wouldn't have gotten close to the police to be able to tell them what happened. He'd have immediately been shot for having a gun. It's called white privilege.

[Tennesseer]

Nov 22, 2021 11:35:19 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 11:14:05 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I think this post is offensive.  You are saying the left is collectively wishing death on Rittenhouse.  The left wants Justice most of us would just like to see him in jail.  I get that he was found innocent.  I would like to see the laws change, but I don't think they will.  I do think in the future we will see Protest Groups have escorts with semi automatic weapons.  Where will it end and who would want to be a police officer in this environment?

99.9% of the Protesters were just there to protest.  Saying that Kile should take a lot of protesters down with his AR-15 before he dies? That is really F'd up thinking.  I suppose you claim to be Pro-Life too.

As you will see in my later post to Opti, I misunderstood what she was saying about throwing fire. I thought she meant throwing fire to kill Kyle (considering a few other posters had wished death on Kyle around the same time as her post, my line is thinking was there).

No, I do not want anyone to kill a protestor. My comment about Kyle taking as many down with him as he can was under the assumption they were killing him (in other words, I hope he kills the people that are killing him…and I stand by that comment). I clarified myself and my thinking several times after this post

While YOU might not wish Kyle dead, several posters in this thread do. I quoted one of them. So no, I’m not the fucked up one out for blood. I believe in defending yourself but not in actively killing someone that isn’t attacking me. That is the thinking of other board members.

Edited to add: I also do not want to see rioters or counter-rioters rolling up to cities with AR-15 strapped on everyone. There will be bloodshed.

As for who would want to be a cop when that happens? Who would want to be a cop now? The left has crucified all of them because of some bad cops. Cops should do what they did last summer…stand back and let the civilians destroy the cities. No reason why they should try to stop it just because guns are now being brought in.

Is exaggeration one of your strengths?

[andi9899]

Nov 21, 2021 17:42:05 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 21, 2021 17:34:47 GMT -5 Opti said:

I think Huber paid the unsuccessful hero tax. It was dangerous, but I give him major credit for trying to stop what he believed was an active shooter situation.

Just like I give Kyle major credit for showing up and attempting to help stop the burning down of Kenosha, since the cops didn’t do anything.

He's not a cop and wasn't even an adult at the time. It wasn't his place. And had Jacob Blake not been shot IN THE BACK for being black, the riot would not have happened.

[andi9899]

Nov 22, 2021 10:37:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 10:30:36 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

I don't think right wingers understand how much they are pushing for outright war. Historically when the majority of people feel they can't get justice through the current justice system there ends up being a revolution. And they've made sure everyone can get their hands on weapons to participate.

When a bunch of people start burning down the town, they’ve already declared war. Our government stood down and allowed them to do it. If the government did its job, no private citizen would have felt the need to protect the city.

Do I want people waking around armed to the teeth? Of course not. That scares the hell out of me. On the other hand, the government allowing our cities to burn also scares the hell out of me. Given where I live and our demographics I should be insulated from all of this. But at some point these idiots will stop burning down their own towns and perhaps come after mine. Damn right I want the ability to protect what’s mine if the government won’t.

Didn't you say you were arming yourself to the hilt to protect yourself from the scary black people? Honestly I'm surprised you didn't get banned for that I had hoped that's why you were gone so long.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 11:47:09 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Nov 21, 2021 15:52:45 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

If a police officer had told Rittenhiuse to drop the gun and he didn’t comply, he would be dead right now. That isn’t what happened. You are comparing apples and oranges to fit your narrative.

Kyle was legally allowed to carry that weapon where he was. He was attacked and defended himself. He got lucky because he could have very well been shot by the last guy or had one of the other guys incapacitate him before he could get a shot off

We all know that isn't true. He legit went and told a police officer that he shot someone with an AR strapped to him and they let him go home. Had he been black, he would be dead right now. He wouldn't have gotten close to the police to be able to tell them what happened. He'd have immediately been shot for having a gun. It's called white privilege.

You are full of half truths. I saw the cops testimony. Kyle never told them he just shot someone. He approached with his hands in the air. There was still active gunfire so they didn’t think it was Kyle that did the shooting. The foo drew his gun on Kyle when he approached the vehicle and the partner pepper sprayed him….all while kyles hands were in the air. They wanted Kyle out of the way so they could get to where they thought the problem was.

I have no idea if a black person would have been treated the same way. The actions would have to be 100% the same. Approaching the car with the hands 100% in the air to know.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 11:52:07 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Nov 21, 2021 17:42:05 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Just like I give Kyle major credit for showing up and attempting to help stop the burning down of Kenosha, since the cops didn’t do anything.

He's not a cop and wasn't even an adult at the time. It wasn't his place. And had Jacob Blake not been shot IN THE BACK for being black, the riot would not have happened.

Actually, if Blake had complied with the officer instead of trying to escape in an SUB with children in there, if Blake wouldn’t have had a knife in his hand, he wouldn’t have been shot.

Counter this behavior with Kyle walking up to the cops with his hands in the air. Can you see why one was shot and not the other?

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 12:02:41 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Nov 22, 2021 10:37:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

When a bunch of people start burning down the town, they’ve already declared war. Our government stood down and allowed them to do it. If the government did its job, no private citizen would have felt the need to protect the city.

Do I want people waking around armed to the teeth? Of course not. That scares the hell out of me. On the other hand, the government allowing our cities to burn also scares the hell out of me. Given where I live and our demographics I should be insulated from all of this. But at some point these idiots will stop burning down their own towns and perhaps come after mine. Damn right I want the ability to protect what’s mine if the government won’t.

Didn't you say you were arming yourself to the hilt to protect yourself from the scary black people? Honestly I'm surprised you didn't get banned for that I had hoped that's why you were gone so long.

Actually, I believe I said I never wanted to live by black people bevsude I didn’t want my town burned down. Then as the riots unfolded, I realized it wasn’t only black peoples causing the destruction. Lots of white ANTIFA idiots also joining in. So I had to eat my words.

[pulmonarymd]

It’s not only white antifa idiots rioting. Or have you forgo what happened on January 6. Maybe that was antifa as well. Or you have an excuse for that too

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 12:38:35 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

It’s not only white antifa idiots rioting. Or have you forgo what happened on January 6. Maybe that was antifa as well. Or you have an excuse for that too

I’m sorry, what does the capital riots have to do with this?

I’m not a hypocrite. I was just as against the capital riots as I was any other riot. The woman shot and killed by the cop had it coming for not complying and stopping when instructed. And while I’m 100% against what happened, the circumstances are also 100% different. People stormed a government building. They didn’t go to neighborhoods and burn them down. I don’t know anyone that is in support of the capital riots. Counter that with several posters on here who were in favor of the destruction of our cities

[pulmonarymd]

You are right. They are different. They attacked our democracy. The other rioters just burned property. And you brought up white antifa followers as those who riot. Just pointing out that white conservatives riot too.

Unless they were justified in rioting. A riot is a riot

[Opti]

Nov 22, 2021 12:19:11 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:02:41 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Didn't you say you were arming yourself to the hilt to protect yourself from the scary black people? Honestly I'm surprised you didn't get banned for that I had hoped that's why you were gone so long.

Actually, I believe I said I never wanted to live by black people bevsude I didn’t want my town burned down. Then as the riots unfolded, I realized it wasn’t only black peoples causing the destruction. Lots of white ANTIFA idiots also joining in. So I had to eat my words.

Some of them are bad actors that are framing BLM for their own purposes. I'm going to comment here about things burning down. Unfortunately far too many protests have people who think burning things down and wrecking things are good ideas because they are angry. This is not just a problem with protests related to BLM.

It happens after sports victories, and it even happened in the Capitol. There were fires on Jan. 6th. Luckily they got put out quick enough the damage is internal to the building.

In the Capitol building complex, historical statues, murals and furniture were damaged, mainly from pepper spray accretions and residue from chemical irritants and fire extinguishers, requiring expert cleaning and conservation. Work crews covered gaping holes with plywood and cleared "a small mountain of debris left behind on the west and east fronts," Blanton said.
www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/24/970977612/architect-of-the-capitol-outlines-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riot

[Opti]

Nov 22, 2021 12:47:30 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:38:35 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

It’s not only white antifa idiots rioting. Or have you forgo what happened on January 6. Maybe that was antifa as well. Or you have an excuse for that too

I’m sorry, what does the capital riots have to do with this?

I’m not a hypocrite. I was just as against the capital riots as I was any other riot. The woman shot and killed by the cop had it coming for not complying and stopping when instructed. And while I’m 100% against what happened, the circumstances are also 100% different. People stormed a government building. They didn’t go to neighborhoods and burn them down. I don’t know anyone that is in support of the capital riots. Counter that with several posters on here who were in favor of the destruction of our cities

Because some people blame the antiFa instead of actually determining who is at fault. There were no antifa on Jan. 6th, they were warned to not come. I doubt there were any antiFa in Kenosha.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 12:55:17 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

You are right. They are different. They attacked our democracy. The other rioters just burned property. And you brought up white antifa followers as those who riot. Just pointing out that white conservatives riot too.

Unless they were justified in rioting. A riot is a riot

A rioters beef isn’t with the owners of private property. They should attack what they are actually mad. So yes, I would much rather if they went to the police station and tried to burn that down versus the businesses and other property.

You keep trying to put words in my mouth. Unlike some people, im against all forms of rioting. It just pisses me off more when the rioters go after people that had zero to do with their issues. I’m ok with police shootings when they are justified. I don’t pick and choose over the race of the person shot. Even if I do not like that we have people walking around with AR-15s, I do not want to put them in jail because they have different views than me. I actually watch the trial, read up on the law and make an informed decision. Not one based on “the spirit of the law” or my bias towards the defendent

[Opti]

Nov 22, 2021 12:10:47 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 11:47:09 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

We all know that isn't true. He legit went and told a police officer that he shot someone with an AR strapped to him and they let him go home. Had he been black, he would be dead right now. He wouldn't have gotten close to the police to be able to tell them what happened. He'd have immediately been shot for having a gun. It's called white privilege.

You are full of half truths. I saw the cops testimony. Kyle never told them he just shot someone. He approached with his hands in the air. There was still active gunfire so they didn’t think it was Kyle that did the shooting. The foo drew his gun on Kyle when he approached the vehicle and the partner pepper sprayed him….all while kyles hands were in the air. They wanted Kyle out of the way so they could get to where they thought the problem was.

I have no idea if a black person would have been treated the same way. The actions would have to be 100% the same. Approaching the car with the hands 100% in the air to know.

I did not see the testimony but saw a video of him walking towards the armored vehicle. In that case his arms were in the air, I heard no gunfire. He had apparently shot arm guy and then encountered this vehicle. Have no idea the time or distance between the two events.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 12:58:05 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:19:11 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Actually, I believe I said I never wanted to live by black people bevsude I didn’t want my town burned down. Then as the riots unfolded, I realized it wasn’t only black peoples causing the destruction. Lots of white ANTIFA idiots also joining in. So I had to eat my words.

Some of them are bad actors that are framing BLM for their own purposes. I'm going to comment here about things burning down. Unfortunately far too many protests have people who think burning things down and wrecking things are good ideas because they are angry. This is not just a problem with protests related to BLM.

It happens after sports victories, and it even happened in the Capitol. There were fires on Jan. 6th. Luckily they got put out quick enough the damage is internal to the building.

In the Capitol building complex, historical statues, murals and furniture were damaged, mainly from pepper spray accretions and residue from chemical irritants and fire extinguishers, requiring expert cleaning and conservation. Work crews covered gaping holes with plywood and cleared "a small mountain of debris left behind on the west and east fronts," Blanton said.
www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/24/970977612/architect-of-the-capitol-outlines-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riot

You seem to think I only want BLM riots to be stopped. I’m an equal opportunity hater. If someone is rioting, they need to be stopped ASAP. I don’t care if it is a Capital Rioter, BLM or any other moron destroying shit that isn’t theirs to destroy. The fact that we are now a country that stand down to this boggles my mind.

I do not care what someone is angry. The minute they go from protestor to rioter the full wrath of the law needs to come down on them. Not just white people. Not just black people. Not just BLM. Not just capital rioters. Every damn one of them.

Just because I am a republican does not mean I am ok with what happened on January 6. I know plenty of republicans and none of them were ok with it. It was a small subset of idiots who bought into it.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 13:07:02 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:10:47 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

You are full of half truths. I saw the cops testimony. Kyle never told them he just shot someone. He approached with his hands in the air. There was still active gunfire so they didn’t think it was Kyle that did the shooting. The foo drew his gun on Kyle when he approached the vehicle and the partner pepper sprayed him….all while kyles hands were in the air. They wanted Kyle out of the way so they could get to where they thought the problem was.

I have no idea if a black person would have been treated the same way. The actions would have to be 100% the same. Approaching the car with the hands 100% in the air to know.

I did not see the testimony but saw a video of him walking towards the armored vehicle. In that case his arms were in the air, I heard no gunfire. He had apparently shot arm guy and then encountered this vehicle. Have no idea the time or distance between the two events.

You can google the cops testimony. And video backs up his statement. Kyle approached in a non-threatening manner with his hands in the air. They still pulled a gun on him just to be sure. Had he made a threatening move or showed a weapon in hand, I have no doubt they would have shot him.

[pulmonarymd]

Nov 22, 2021 13:04:24 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:55:17 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

You are right. They are different. They attacked our democracy. The other rioters just burned property. And you brought up white antifa followers as those who riot. Just pointing out that white conservatives riot too.

Unless they were justified in rioting. A riot is a riot

A rioters beef isn’t with the owners of private property. They should attack what they are actually mad. So yes, I would much rather if they went to the police station and tried to burn that down versus the businesses and other property.

You keep trying to put words in my mouth. Unlike some people, im against all forms of rioting. It just pisses me off more when the rioters go after people that had zero to do with their issues. I’m ok with police shootings when they are justified. I don’t pick and choose over the race of the person shot. Even if I do not like that we have people walking around with AR-15s, I do not want to put them in jail because they have different views than me. I actually watch the trial, read up on the law and make an informed decision. Not one based on “the spirit of the law” or my bias towards the defendent

Fine. If that is the way you feel, all good. But there was no need to add antifa to white. There is an excellent example of white conservatives rioting, an example that will be in history books(as long as our democracy survives) lomger than people will remember the antifa idiots

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 13:23:07 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Nov 22, 2021 13:04:24 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

A rioters beef isn’t with the owners of private property. They should attack what they are actually mad. So yes, I would much rather if they went to the police station and tried to burn that down versus the businesses and other property.

You keep trying to put words in my mouth. Unlike some people, im against all forms of rioting. It just pisses me off more when the rioters go after people that had zero to do with their issues. I’m ok with police shootings when they are justified. I don’t pick and choose over the race of the person shot. Even if I do not like that we have people walking around with AR-15s, I do not want to put them in jail because they have different views than me. I actually watch the trial, read up on the law and make an informed decision. Not one based on “the spirit of the law” or my bias towards the defendent

Fine. If that is the way you feel, all good. But there was no need to add antifa to white. There is an excellent example of white conservatives rioting, an example that will be in history books(as long as our democracy survives) lomger than people will remember the antifa idiots

Fair point I’m against all idiots, regardless of party or race, who riot and cause damage. I’m a very black and white kind of person. My thoughts do not change because of the reason someone is causing destruction.

[Opti]

Nov 22, 2021 13:11:23 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 13:07:02 GMT -5 Opti said:

I did not see the testimony but saw a video of him walking towards the armored vehicle. In that case his arms were in the air, I heard no gunfire. He had apparently shot arm guy and then encountered this vehicle. Have no idea the time or distance between the two events.

You can google the cops testimony. And video backs up his statement. Kyle approached in a non-threatening manner with his hands in the air. They still pulled a gun on him just to be sure. Had he made a threatening move or showed a weapon in hand, I have no doubt they would have shot him.

Not going to look for it, because its too much of a rabbit hole. Did he encounter the police twice at least? The video piece I saw he walks on by, unstopped by the police in the armored vehicle. 

[laterbloomer]

It has been proven that much of the violence and destruction at BLM protests was instigated by right wing agitators.

[chiver78]

Nov 22, 2021 13:11:23 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 13:07:02 GMT -5 Opti said:

I did not see the testimony but saw a video of him walking towards the armored vehicle. In that case his arms were in the air, I heard no gunfire. He had apparently shot arm guy and then encountered this vehicle. Have no idea the time or distance between the two events.

You can google the cops testimony. And video backs up his statement. Kyle approached in a non-threatening manner with his hands in the air. They still pulled a gun on him just to be sure. Had he made a threatening move or showed a weapon in hand, I have no doubt they would have shot him.

like Christian Hall? link

Twitter link, with video. link

[Opti]

Nov 22, 2021 13:09:31 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:58:05 GMT -5 Opti said:

Some of them are bad actors that are framing BLM for their own purposes. I'm going to comment here about things burning down. Unfortunately far too many protests have people who think burning things down and wrecking things are good ideas because they are angry. This is not just a problem with protests related to BLM.

It happens after sports victories, and it even happened in the Capitol. There were fires on Jan. 6th. Luckily they got put out quick enough the damage is internal to the building.

In the Capitol building complex, historical statues, murals and furniture were damaged, mainly from pepper spray accretions and residue from chemical irritants and fire extinguishers, requiring expert cleaning and conservation. Work crews covered gaping holes with plywood and cleared "a small mountain of debris left behind on the west and east fronts," Blanton said.
www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/24/970977612/architect-of-the-capitol-outlines-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riot

You seem to think I only want BLM riots to be stopped. I’m an equal opportunity hater. If someone is rioting, they need to be stopped ASAP. I don’t care if it is a Capital Rioter, BLM or any other moron destroying shit that isn’t theirs to destroy. The fact that we are now a country that stand down to this boggles my mind.

I do not care what someone is angry. The minute they go from protestor to rioter the full wrath of the law needs to come down on them. Not just white people. Not just black people. Not just BLM. Not just capital rioters. Every damn one of them.

Just because I am a republican does not mean I am ok with what happened on January 6. I know plenty of republicans and none of them were ok with it. It was a small subset of idiots who bought into it.

I think then we have agreement on some things. I think we might both be fine with any peaceful protest. Some protesters turn to rioters due to their emotions and some rioters just show up to do shit under the cover.

I don't think we are a country that wants to stand down. Realistically, cops can't stop everyone safely nor in time. Cops get injured, sometimes killed stopping protestors. 

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 13:50:31 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

It has been proven that much of the violence and destruction at BLM protests was instigated by right wing agitators.

It’s like you aren’t understanding what I’m saying. I don’t really care who is causing the destruction. I want the wrath of the law to come down hard on whoever is doing it and shut it down. I’m not a hypocrite. I’m not ok with a riot because I believe in the cause or because the people are white or conservative. It needs to be stopped.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 14:19:56 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 22, 2021 13:09:31 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

You seem to think I only want BLM riots to be stopped. I’m an equal opportunity hater. If someone is rioting, they need to be stopped ASAP. I don’t care if it is a Capital Rioter, BLM or any other moron destroying shit that isn’t theirs to destroy. The fact that we are now a country that stand down to this boggles my mind.

I do not care what someone is angry. The minute they go from protestor to rioter the full wrath of the law needs to come down on them. Not just white people. Not just black people. Not just BLM. Not just capital rioters. Every damn one of them.

Just because I am a republican does not mean I am ok with what happened on January 6. I know plenty of republicans and none of them were ok with it. It was a small subset of idiots who bought into it.

I think then we have agreement on some things. I think we might both be fine with any peaceful protest. Some protesters turn to rioters due to their emotions and some rioters just show up to do shit under the cover.

I don't think we are a country that wants to stand down. Realistically, cops can't stop everyone safely nor in time. Cops get injured, sometimes killed stopping protestors. 

We agree on some things. We disagree that this couldn’t have been stopped. National guard could have been called in to assist. We stood down with our balls in our hand. Pathetic

[swamp]

So rittenhouse has become the darling of a bunch of right wing whackos. I hope he realizes they are using him as a pawn.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 14:15:46 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Nov 22, 2021 13:11:23 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

You can google the cops testimony. And video backs up his statement. Kyle approached in a non-threatening manner with his hands in the air. They still pulled a gun on him just to be sure. Had he made a threatening move or showed a weapon in hand, I have no doubt they would have shot him.

like Christian Hall? link

Twitter link, with video. link

This is nothing like Kyle's situation.  Kyle's hands were in the air and his weapon was no where near his hands where he could shoot.  

www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/christian-hall-shooting-shows-police-use-cameras-protect-themselves-ncna1284297

The link you gave me was too grainy too really see much.  This video is much more clear.

This person had a gun (a realistic looking gun) in his hand and didn't drop it when instructed to several times.  Hall repeatedly ignored their request to drop the gun for 90 minutes.  What I can't tell is if he was making a movement prior to them shooting or if we was moving because they shot him.  

Why didn't he drop the gun?  You have a mentally unstable man who was about to commit suicide who refuses to drop the gun.  I would want to see the entire video before coming to any conclusion.  Does my gut tell me it is 100% justified?  No.  But it also doesn't automatically tell me it's a bad shot, either.  

It is very rare that these "bad shots" show a person complying with the cops and then getting shot.  

[Opti]

Nov 22, 2021 14:48:47 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 14:19:56 GMT -5 Opti said:

I think then we have agreement on some things. I think we might both be fine with any peaceful protest. Some protesters turn to rioters due to their emotions and some rioters just show up to do shit under the cover.

I don't think we are a country that wants to stand down. Realistically, cops can't stop everyone safely nor in time. Cops get injured, sometimes killed stopping protestors. 

We agree on some things. We disagree that this couldn’t have been stopped. National guard could have been called in to assist. We stood down with our balls in our hand. Pathetic

There are limits with everything. You can't just dial up 1-800-NationalGuard once you know the turn out is bigger than what you can handle or the situation is more than your local force can handle. The political agreements have to be made generally b4 any protestor has put a foot on the ground. There are financial costs with every decision made. 

I totally disagree with your second to last sentence. They acted as they did, because their bosses got to choose the limits of the engagement b4 anyone showed up. Its not as simplistic as some people choose to see it. 

[laterbloomer]

Nov 22, 2021 14:47:57 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 13:50:31 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

It has been proven that much of the violence and destruction at BLM protests was instigated by right wing agitators.

It’s like you aren’t understanding what I’m saying. I don’t really care who is causing the destruction. I want the wrath of the law to come down hard on whoever is doing it and shut it down. I’m not a hypocrite. I’m not ok with a riot because I believe in the cause or because the people are white or conservative. It needs to be stopped.

It's like you want to ignore the point that it's people like Kyle showing up at peaceful BLM protests and initiating violence. You make it obvious you don't want them punished.