Rittenhouse verdict

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 15:55:22 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Nov 22, 2021 14:47:57 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

It’s like you aren’t understanding what I’m saying. I don’t really care who is causing the destruction. I want the wrath of the law to come down hard on whoever is doing it and shut it down. I’m not a hypocrite. I’m not ok with a riot because I believe in the cause or because the people are white or conservative. It needs to be stopped.

It's like you want to ignore the point that it's people like Kyle showing up at peaceful BLM protests and initiating violence. You make it obvious you don't want them punished.

Right…because they were oh so peaceful all over before people like Kyle showed up.

These protests turned into riots as soon as darkness hit all over the country. I actually remember you saying it was a good thing. I can’t remember the logic you had for our country burning but you justified it. Now you are going to blame counter protestors for all of the devastation caused? Nope, not buying it

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 15:30:53 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 22, 2021 14:48:47 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

We agree on some things. We disagree that this couldn’t have been stopped. National guard could have been called in to assist. We stood down with our balls in our hand. Pathetic

There are limits with everything. You can't just dial up 1-800-NationalGuard once you know the turn out is bigger than what you can handle or the situation is more than your local force can handle. The political agreements have to be made generally b4 any protestor has put a foot on the ground. There are financial costs with every decision made. 

I totally disagree with your second to last sentence. They acted as they did, because their bosses got to choose the limits of the engagement b4 anyone showed up. Its not as simplistic as some people choose to see it. 

I actually remember the national guard being offered up and rejected. The governors in the liberal areas preferred to see their cities burn. They got what they wanted…

[andi9899]

Nov 22, 2021 12:19:11 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:02:41 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Didn't you say you were arming yourself to the hilt to protect yourself from the scary black people? Honestly I'm surprised you didn't get banned for that I had hoped that's why you were gone so long.

Actually, I believe I said I never wanted to live by black people bevsude I didn’t want my town burned down. Then as the riots unfolded, I realized it wasn’t only black peoples causing the destruction. Lots of white ANTIFA idiots also joining in. So I had to eat my words.

You said you were petrified of black people (outside of your black nanny) and were going to move to the whitest area you could find and make sure you were fully armed. I remember this because I thought "for someone who claims to be so strong, she sure is afraid of a lot."

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 17:55:05 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Nov 22, 2021 12:19:11 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Actually, I believe I said I never wanted to live by black people bevsude I didn’t want my town burned down. Then as the riots unfolded, I realized it wasn’t only black peoples causing the destruction. Lots of white ANTIFA idiots also joining in. So I had to eat my words.

You said you were petrified of black people (outside of your black nanny) and were going to move to the whitest area you could find and make sure you were fully armed. I remember this because I thought "for someone who claims to be so strong, she sure is afraid of a lot."

You could be right. I don’t remember exactly what I said.

I never claim to be strong in the street sense. I’m not used to living around people that burn the city down. If you consider that weakness, I’m ok with that. I would never want to be that kind of strong.

[Tennesseer]

Good advice.

Rittenhouse Lawyer Tells Fox News, ‘My Advice Would Be to Change His Name and Start His Life Over’

One of the attorneys for Kyle Rittenhouse told Martha MacCallum of Fox News that the 18-year-old should change his name and attempt to start his life over.

Multiple Republican congressmen have said they want to hire Rittenhouse, who was acquitted last week of homicide by a Wisconsin jury, as an intern.

MacCallum asked Mark Richards about the offers, which he had previously called “disgusting.”

“Well, I think there’s a lot of people want to use Kyle for their own means,” said Richards. “I think the way the Rittenhouse name right now has trended on Twitter – and that’s what we live in, is a Twitter society – people want to use his name, get it out there so they can get some publicity. I think it’s cheap. That’s what I think.”

"So what’s your advice to him about how he should live his life from now?” asked MacCallum.

“Yeah, my advice would be to change his name and start his life over,” Richards responded. “He’s very recognizable right now. There’s a lot of people who I don’t think have his best interests at heart, and probably want to make him a symbol of something I don’t think he wants to be necessarily associated with. And once you give up your name and your likeness and you join those causes, I think a lot of people will use you for their own purposes and you won’t be able to control it.”

Richards concluded by saying, “It’s gonna be a fine line where he decides to go. Ultimately I hope he makes the right choices. I would think his life would be a lot easier being anonymous and going on with his life as opposed to try and keep his fervent supporters happy.”

Article: Rittenhouse Lawyer Tells Fox News, ‘My Advice Would Be to Change His Name and Start His Life Over’

[Opti]

That's pretty decent advice (name change).

[weltschmerz]

He's going to need a face change, too.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 18:16:49 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Good advice.

Rittenhouse Lawyer Tells Fox News, ‘My Advice Would Be to Change His Name and Start His Life Over’

One of the attorneys for Kyle Rittenhouse told Martha MacCallum of Fox News that the 18-year-old should change his name and attempt to start his life over.

Multiple Republican congressmen have said they want to hire Rittenhouse, who was acquitted last week of homicide by a Wisconsin jury, as an intern.

MacCallum asked Mark Richards about the offers, which he had previously called “disgusting.”

“Well, I think there’s a lot of people want to use Kyle for their own means,” said Richards. “I think the way the Rittenhouse name right now has trended on Twitter – and that’s what we live in, is a Twitter society – people want to use his name, get it out there so they can get some publicity. I think it’s cheap. That’s what I think.”

"So what’s your advice to him about how he should live his life from now?” asked MacCallum.

“Yeah, my advice would be to change his name and start his life over,” Richards responded. “He’s very recognizable right now. There’s a lot of people who I don’t think have his best interests at heart, and probably want to make him a symbol of something I don’t think he wants to be necessarily associated with. And once you give up your name and your likeness and you join those causes, I think a lot of people will use you for their own purposes and you won’t be able to control it.”

Richards concluded by saying, “It’s gonna be a fine line where he decides to go. Ultimately I hope he makes the right choices. I would think his life would be a lot easier being anonymous and going on with his life as opposed to try and keep his fervent supporters happy.”

Article: Rittenhouse Lawyer Tells Fox News, ‘My Advice Would Be to Change His Name and Start His Life Over’

I agree 100% with his attorney.  Many people want to use him.  Many people sadly want to kill him.  In order to have any shot at a normal life, he needs to follow his attorney's advice.  

[Deleted]

Nov 22, 2021 18:11:37 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 17:55:05 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

You said you were petrified of black people (outside of your black nanny) and were going to move to the whitest area you could find and make sure you were fully armed. I remember this because I thought "for someone who claims to be so strong, she sure is afraid of a lot."

You could be right. I don’t remember exactly what I said.

I never claim to be strong in the street sense. I’m not used to living around people that burn the city down. If you consider that weakness, I’m ok with that. I would never want to be that kind of strong.

I have a little street sense. And I’m not used to living around “people that burn the city down” either.

It’s kind of funny you say that because the kind of place you’ve expressed a desire to live in…..  I’m willing to bet money that some of your neighbors’ dicks got hard watching what happened on January 6th while they watched the havoc that those rioters were wreaking. I’m not saying either one is right…… but what is supposed to be a peaceful protest that turns into a riot…….. is not the same as a physical attack on our government and our democracy. But I guess that’s neither here nor there.

Unlike you, what I would like would be to move to whatever area I want to, without having to consider what my neighbors look like. I would prefer that whether it’s the Bronx in New York or the suburbs in Vermont, or one of the thousands of places in between, I would be safe to mind my business and life my life however I want to live it.

The same places that you would feel safe living in because everyone looks like you and can afford to live there (which I assume hopefully helps to weeds out POC and other undesirables)…… I’m wary of living in. That’s real talk, no shade.

I think the “hopefully helps to weed out POC…” part is ok to assume, since you did specifically say back then, one way or the other, that you wanted to live somewhere where everyone was white.

Anyway, what I’m wrestling with is that I know that if Rittenhouse had been my son and everything about the events was identical, if my son was even still alive, he would not have walked like Rittenhouse did. 

Anybody that says differently is either bullshitting and talking just to be talking, completely clueless, or a fucking fool.

No matter where my baby lives in this country, he’s still going to be a Black man in America. 

And anyone who has a problem with him living next door to them just because he is Black (which anyone wanting to live in an all white neighborhood/whatever obviously doesn’t want) without regard to what kind of person he is…… just considering the color of his skin….. is a racist asshole.

I’m not saying anyone on these boards is a racist asshole. But if the shoe fits, just put that bitch on and wear it with no apologies.

[kadee78]

Pink, wish I could "like" your post 1000 times!!!!!!!!!

I've lived in various neighborhoods in several states....in Ill., Ca., Fl. & Ga.  The color of someone's skin never bothered me, it was their attitudes & actions that determined whether or not we interacted with them.  I currently happen to have one really nasty white woman as a neighbor.  We don't speak unless absolutely necessary.  Even the people who attend the same church as her don't want anything to do with her.  We also have a Hispanic neighbor who is a jewel.  If we needed help, we would ask her first and we have helped her several times in the past too.
I have my fingers crossed that the trail in Ga. results in different outcome than Rittenhouse.  

[Deleted]

Miss Tequila I just want to say that I know that sometimes yours is the only comment I respond to the way I do. But, there’s something about you that makes me want to like you even though you piss me off with some of the things you say.

Some other posters I strongly disagree with, but I don’t even bother responding to or interacting with them because I don’t feel they or their posts are worth the energy. 

Whatever it is about you that makes me want to like you…… me being who I am, requires me to call you out on what I consider to be bullshit, in hopes that maybe you might rethink some stuff and at least try to see a different point of view on some things. 

I don’t say any of that to try to make you feel like you should say or do anything differently than how you feel or want to. I’m just saying why it might feel sometimes like I’m picking on you. I’m being honest just like I would with someone I know IRL that I’m willing to be bothered with until I’m not.

And if that violates the code of conduct on these boards, I’ll just hush about all of it, period.

[laterbloomer]

Nov 22, 2021 17:13:49 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 15:55:22 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

It's like you want to ignore the point that it's people like Kyle showing up at peaceful BLM protests and initiating violence. You make it obvious you don't want them punished.

Right…because they were oh so peaceful all over before people like Kyle showed up.

These protests turned into riots as soon as darkness hit all over the country. I actually remember you saying it was a good thing. I can’t remember the logic you had for our country burning but you justified it. Now you are going to blame counter protestors for all of the devastation caused? Nope, not buying it

The first protests were quite peaceful. It has been proven with video and witnesses that the majority of the violence was started by right wing agitators. They were also the ones that outright attacked police on Jan 6th. I know you people like to lie about that but it's true. The same way that you like to ignore that the only one that killed anyone at that protest was little Nazi in training Kyle. Anyway, I'm done talking to you. I just want to make the point that people see through your bull shit.

[laterbloomer]

Oh, and I said that I thought killing black people at will was worse than burning a few buildings and I was glad that was all they were doing. Then it was proven that it was right wing agitators starting the fires. Which ties in to what I said here, the right is pushing for all out war.

[Opti]

Nov 22, 2021 17:15:04 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 15:30:53 GMT -5 Opti said:

There are limits with everything. You can't just dial up 1-800-NationalGuard once you know the turn out is bigger than what you can handle or the situation is more than your local force can handle. The political agreements have to be made generally b4 any protestor has put a foot on the ground. There are financial costs with every decision made. 

I totally disagree with your second to last sentence. They acted as they did, because their bosses got to choose the limits of the engagement b4 anyone showed up. Its not as simplistic as some people choose to see it. 

I actually remember the national guard being offered up and rejected. The governors in the liberal areas preferred to see their cities burn. They got what they wanted…

I realize you are addressing your opinion of the BLM protests in some cities. Did I miss when Kenosha was offered the National Guard for this particular protest?

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 21:55:13 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 22, 2021 17:15:04 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I actually remember the national guard being offered up and rejected. The governors in the liberal areas preferred to see their cities burn. They got what they wanted…

I realize you are addressing your opinion of the BLM protests in some cities. Did I miss when Kenosha was offered the National Guard for this particular protest?

You are correct.  I was speaking in generalities and not specific to Kenosha.  I have no idea if the National Guard was offered up to Kenosha.  

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 21:25:46 GMT -5 kadee78 said:

Pink, wish I could "like" your post 1000 times!!!!!!!!!

I've lived in various neighborhoods in several states....in Ill., Ca., Fl. & Ga.  The color of someone's skin never bothered me, it was their attitudes & actions that determined whether or not we interacted with them.  I currently happen to have one really nasty white woman as a neighbor.  We don't speak unless absolutely necessary.  Even the people who attend the same church as her don't want anything to do with her.  We also have a Hispanic neighbor who is a jewel.  If we needed help, we would ask her first and we have helped her several times in the past too.
I have my fingers crossed that the trail in Ga. results in different outcome than Rittenhouse.  

How could it not have a different outcome?  I admittedly have not been watching much of the trial but the situation is nothing like Rittenhouse.  I'm assuming a guilty verdict based on what I have read.  If it is anything but guilty, I would then go back and start researching to see why.  But from what I read, it is pretty cut and dry.  

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 22, 2021 20:55:25 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Nov 22, 2021 18:11:37 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

You could be right. I don’t remember exactly what I said.

I never claim to be strong in the street sense. I’m not used to living around people that burn the city down. If you consider that weakness, I’m ok with that. I would never want to be that kind of strong.

I have a little street sense. And I’m not used to living around “people that burn the city down” either.

It’s kind of funny you say that because the kind of place you’ve expressed a desire to live in…..  I’m willing to bet money that some of your neighbors’ dicks got hard watching what happened on January 6th while they watched the havoc that those rioters were wreaking. I’m not saying either one is right…… but what is supposed to be a peaceful protest that turns into a riot…….. is not the same as a physical attack on our government and our democracy. But I guess that’s neither here nor there.

Unlike you, what I would like would be to move to whatever area I want to, without having to consider what my neighbors look like. I would prefer that whether it’s the Bronx in New York or the suburbs in Vermont, or one of the thousands of places in between, I would be safe to mind my business and life my life however I want to live it.

The same places that you would feel safe living in because everyone looks like you and can afford to live there (which I assume hopefully helps to weeds out POC and other undesirables)…… I’m wary of living in. That’s real talk, no shade.

I think the “hopefully helps to weed out POC…” part is ok to assume, since you did specifically say back then, one way or the other, that you wanted to live somewhere where everyone was white.

Anyway, what I’m wrestling with is that I know that if Rittenhouse had been my son and everything about the events was identical, if my son was even still alive, he would not have walked like Rittenhouse did. 

Anybody that says differently is either bullshitting and talking just to be talking, completely clueless, or a fucking fool.

No matter where my baby lives in this country, he’s still going to be a Black man in America. 

And anyone who has a problem with him living next door to them just because he is Black (which anyone wanting to live in an all white neighborhood/whatever obviously doesn’t want) without regard to what kind of person he is…… just considering the color of his skin….. is a racist asshole.

I’m not saying anyone on these boards is a racist asshole. But if the shoe fits, just put that bitch on and wear it with no apologies.

And now I'm going to be real.  Last summer, in the midst of the initial riots, I was PETRIFIED!  I felt extremely vulnerable and was reading hatred spread towards white people...all things from POC.  Then I see what appeared to be POC burning down their own damn cities.  In that moment, I wanted to move to the whitest area possible to escape the risk.  Then I started watching more clips of what was happening...not from any of the news outlets but from people living through the nightmare.  While the armchair liberals on here and on MSM were all happy about the riots because it was for a cause, I saw black people crying hysterically because their business that they worked so hard for was destroyed.  I saw young black people screaming at the rioters for destroying their towns.  I saw videos of blacks AND whites destroying the towns.

Unlike other people, I admit when I am wrong.  And I was wrong.  I said so in here and I also put the videos to which I am referencing up on my FB.  It was the black areas being destroyed but it was not only being done by black people.  I can't change my feelings in that exact moment but they were no different than your feelings.  You said in your post that you would not feel safe (or you would be wary of) living by white people.  It's the same thing.  But you don't get attacked for saying that you would be wary of living around white people like me but I'm crucified for saying the reverse, even when mine was said in the height of a true panic attack versus yours just being a general thought process.  Why doesn't saying that you would be wary of living in an all white area also make you racist?  That question was not meant to throw shade.  I'm honestly curious what the difference is.  If you feel that your personal safety would be at risk, that is no different than what I felt.  

I truly have no idea if your son would have made it out if it was him and not Kyle.  But i'm not ok with making Kyle a sacrificial lamb because people think a black person would have been treated differently.  People on this board wished him dead.  An 18 year old kid!  I am not ok with that, anymore than your son being shot just because he was black.  

As for my comment about "not used to living by people that burn the city down", that was a reply to Andi about my thought process last year.  She considered me weak because I was terrified of the riots.  I didn't realize that being a strong, independent female meant I had to be cool with being in the middle of a riot.  She and I obviously have different ideas of what a strong person is.  

I can't and won't keep apologizing because of something I said last year but I do own my words.  I do try to now make a conscious effort to get all of the facts before jumping to a conclusion.  Some people will always hold it against me and that is their right.  Most of us do not know each other in real life so we build our opinions of each other based on these boards.

[pulmonarymd]

Nov 23, 2021 8:03:54 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 20:55:25 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I have a little street sense. And I’m not used to living around “people that burn the city down” either.

It’s kind of funny you say that because the kind of place you’ve expressed a desire to live in…..  I’m willing to bet money that some of your neighbors’ dicks got hard watching what happened on January 6th while they watched the havoc that those rioters were wreaking. I’m not saying either one is right…… but what is supposed to be a peaceful protest that turns into a riot…….. is not the same as a physical attack on our government and our democracy. But I guess that’s neither here nor there.

Unlike you, what I would like would be to move to whatever area I want to, without having to consider what my neighbors look like. I would prefer that whether it’s the Bronx in New York or the suburbs in Vermont, or one of the thousands of places in between, I would be safe to mind my business and life my life however I want to live it.

The same places that you would feel safe living in because everyone looks like you and can afford to live there (which I assume hopefully helps to weeds out POC and other undesirables)…… I’m wary of living in. That’s real talk, no shade.

I think the “hopefully helps to weed out POC…” part is ok to assume, since you did specifically say back then, one way or the other, that you wanted to live somewhere where everyone was white.

Anyway, what I’m wrestling with is that I know that if Rittenhouse had been my son and everything about the events was identical, if my son was even still alive, he would not have walked like Rittenhouse did. 

Anybody that says differently is either bullshitting and talking just to be talking, completely clueless, or a fucking fool.

No matter where my baby lives in this country, he’s still going to be a Black man in America. 

And anyone who has a problem with him living next door to them just because he is Black (which anyone wanting to live in an all white neighborhood/whatever obviously doesn’t want) without regard to what kind of person he is…… just considering the color of his skin….. is a racist asshole.

I’m not saying anyone on these boards is a racist asshole. But if the shoe fits, just put that bitch on and wear it with no apologies.

And now I'm going to be real.  Last summer, in the midst of the initial riots, I was PETRIFIED!  I felt extremely vulnerable and was reading hatred spread towards white people...all things from POC.  Then I see what appeared to be POC burning down their own damn cities.  In that moment, I wanted to move to the whitest area possible to escape the risk.  Then I started watching more clips of what was happening...not from any of the news outlets but from people living through the nightmare.  While the armchair liberals on here and on MSM were all happy about the riots because it was for a cause, I saw black people crying hysterically because their business that they worked so hard for was destroyed.  I saw young black people screaming at the rioters for destroying their towns.  I saw videos of blacks AND whites destroying the towns.

Unlike other people, I admit when I am wrong.  And I was wrong.  I said so in here and I also put the videos to which I am referencing up on my FB.  It was the black areas being destroyed but it was not only being done by black people.  I can't change my feelings in that exact moment but they were no different than your feelings.  You said in your post that you would not feel safe (or you would be wary of) living by white people.  It's the same thing.  But you don't get attacked for saying that you would be wary of living around white people like me but I'm crucified for saying the reverse, even when mine was said in the height of a true panic attack versus yours just being a general thought process.  Why doesn't saying that you would be wary of living in an all white area also make you racist?  That question was not meant to throw shade.  I'm honestly curious what the difference is.  If you feel that your personal safety would be at risk, that is no different than what I felt.  

I truly have no idea if your son would have made it out if it was him and not Kyle.  But i'm not ok with making Kyle a sacrificial lamb because people think a black person would have been treated differently.  People on this board wished him dead.  An 18 year old kid!  I am not ok with that, anymore than your son being shot just because he was black.  

As for my comment about "not used to living by people that burn the city down", that was a reply to Andi about my thought process last year.  She considered me weak because I was terrified of the riots.  I didn't realize that being a strong, independent female meant I had to be cool with being in the middle of a riot.  She and I obviously have different ideas of what a strong person is.  

I can't and won't keep apologizing because of something I said last year but I do own my words.  I do try to now make a conscious effort to get all of the facts before jumping to a conclusion.  Some people will always hold it against me and that is their right.  Most of us do not know each other in real life so we build our opinions of each other based on these boards.

Have you actually lived in a big city. I have, and I can say that I was not terrified that any of that would spill over to me. I lived in NYC in the 80s. The reporting on these events sl Ats makes it seem like it is the entire area that is affected, when in reality it is usually localized. People who live in rural area always complain that those in cities don’t understand their lifestyle. I would postulate it goes both ways.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 23, 2021 10:17:58 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Nov 23, 2021 8:03:54 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

And now I'm going to be real.  Last summer, in the midst of the initial riots, I was PETRIFIED!  I felt extremely vulnerable and was reading hatred spread towards white people...all things from POC.  Then I see what appeared to be POC burning down their own damn cities.  In that moment, I wanted to move to the whitest area possible to escape the risk.  Then I started watching more clips of what was happening...not from any of the news outlets but from people living through the nightmare.  While the armchair liberals on here and on MSM were all happy about the riots because it was for a cause, I saw black people crying hysterically because their business that they worked so hard for was destroyed.  I saw young black people screaming at the rioters for destroying their towns.  I saw videos of blacks AND whites destroying the towns.

Unlike other people, I admit when I am wrong.  And I was wrong.  I said so in here and I also put the videos to which I am referencing up on my FB.  It was the black areas being destroyed but it was not only being done by black people.  I can't change my feelings in that exact moment but they were no different than your feelings.  You said in your post that you would not feel safe (or you would be wary of) living by white people.  It's the same thing.  But you don't get attacked for saying that you would be wary of living around white people like me but I'm crucified for saying the reverse, even when mine was said in the height of a true panic attack versus yours just being a general thought process.  Why doesn't saying that you would be wary of living in an all white area also make you racist?  That question was not meant to throw shade.  I'm honestly curious what the difference is.  If you feel that your personal safety would be at risk, that is no different than what I felt.  

I truly have no idea if your son would have made it out if it was him and not Kyle.  But i'm not ok with making Kyle a sacrificial lamb because people think a black person would have been treated differently.  People on this board wished him dead.  An 18 year old kid!  I am not ok with that, anymore than your son being shot just because he was black.  

As for my comment about "not used to living by people that burn the city down", that was a reply to Andi about my thought process last year.  She considered me weak because I was terrified of the riots.  I didn't realize that being a strong, independent female meant I had to be cool with being in the middle of a riot.  She and I obviously have different ideas of what a strong person is.  

I can't and won't keep apologizing because of something I said last year but I do own my words.  I do try to now make a conscious effort to get all of the facts before jumping to a conclusion.  Some people will always hold it against me and that is their right.  Most of us do not know each other in real life so we build our opinions of each other based on these boards.

Have you actually lived in a big city. I have, and I can say that I was not terrified that any of that would spill over to me. I lived in NYC in the 80s. The reporting on these events sl Ats makes it seem like it is the entire area that is affected, when in reality it is usually localized. People who live in rural area always complain that those in cities don’t understand their lifestyle. I would postulate it goes both ways.

I agree with that.  My "city" is one where if it takes more than one red light to get through the intersection, it is a traffic jam!lol  I do not live in the country but I do live in a small town.  

[Tennesseer]

Nov 23, 2021 8:03:54 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 22, 2021 20:55:25 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I have a little street sense. And I’m not used to living around “people that burn the city down” either.

It’s kind of funny you say that because the kind of place you’ve expressed a desire to live in…..  I’m willing to bet money that some of your neighbors’ dicks got hard watching what happened on January 6th while they watched the havoc that those rioters were wreaking. I’m not saying either one is right…… but what is supposed to be a peaceful protest that turns into a riot…….. is not the same as a physical attack on our government and our democracy. But I guess that’s neither here nor there.

Unlike you, what I would like would be to move to whatever area I want to, without having to consider what my neighbors look like. I would prefer that whether it’s the Bronx in New York or the suburbs in Vermont, or one of the thousands of places in between, I would be safe to mind my business and life my life however I want to live it.

The same places that you would feel safe living in because everyone looks like you and can afford to live there (which I assume hopefully helps to weeds out POC and other undesirables)…… I’m wary of living in. That’s real talk, no shade.

I think the “hopefully helps to weed out POC…” part is ok to assume, since you did specifically say back then, one way or the other, that you wanted to live somewhere where everyone was white.

Anyway, what I’m wrestling with is that I know that if Rittenhouse had been my son and everything about the events was identical, if my son was even still alive, he would not have walked like Rittenhouse did. 

Anybody that says differently is either bullshitting and talking just to be talking, completely clueless, or a fucking fool.

No matter where my baby lives in this country, he’s still going to be a Black man in America. 

And anyone who has a problem with him living next door to them just because he is Black (which anyone wanting to live in an all white neighborhood/whatever obviously doesn’t want) without regard to what kind of person he is…… just considering the color of his skin….. is a racist asshole.

I’m not saying anyone on these boards is a racist asshole. But if the shoe fits, just put that bitch on and wear it with no apologies.

And now I'm going to be real.  Last summer, in the midst of the initial riots, I was PETRIFIED!  I felt extremely vulnerable and was reading hatred spread towards white people...all things from POC.  Then I see what appeared to be POC burning down their own damn cities.  In that moment, I wanted to move to the whitest area possible to escape the risk.  Then I started watching more clips of what was happening...not from any of the news outlets but from people living through the nightmare.  While the armchair liberals on here and on MSM were all happy about the riots because it was for a cause, I saw black people crying hysterically because their business that they worked so hard for was destroyed.  I saw young black people screaming at the rioters for destroying their towns.  I saw videos of blacks AND whites destroying the towns.

Unlike other people, I admit when I am wrong.  And I was wrong.  I said so in here and I also put the videos to which I am referencing up on my FB.  It was the black areas being destroyed but it was not only being done by black people.  I can't change my feelings in that exact moment but they were no different than your feelings.  You said in your post that you would not feel safe (or you would be wary of) living by white people.  It's the same thing.  But you don't get attacked for saying that you would be wary of living around white people like me but I'm crucified for saying the reverse, even when mine was said in the height of a true panic attack versus yours just being a general thought process.  Why doesn't saying that you would be wary of living in an all white area also make you racist?  That question was not meant to throw shade.  I'm honestly curious what the difference is.  If you feel that your personal safety would be at risk, that is no different than what I felt.  

I truly have no idea if your son would have made it out if it was him and not Kyle.  But i'm not ok with making Kyle a sacrificial lamb because people think a black person would have been treated differently.  People on this board wished him dead.  An 18 year old kid!  I am not ok with that, anymore than your son being shot just because he was black.  

As for my comment about "not used to living by people that burn the city down", that was a reply to Andi about my thought process last year.  She considered me weak because I was terrified of the riots.  I didn't realize that being a strong, independent female meant I had to be cool with being in the middle of a riot.  She and I obviously have different ideas of what a strong person is.  

I can't and won't keep apologizing because of something I said last year but I do own my words.  I do try to now make a conscious effort to get all of the facts before jumping to a conclusion.  Some people will always hold it against me and that is their right.  Most of us do not know each other in real life so we build our opinions of each other based on these boards.

Your generalizations are now bullshit. I, a liberal, am never happy to see properties burned and destroyed regardless of reason.

Knock it the fuck off.

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Nov 23, 2021 10:31:00 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 23, 2021 10:17:58 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Have you actually lived in a big city. I have, and I can say that I was not terrified that any of that would spill over to me. I lived in NYC in the 80s. The reporting on these events sl Ats makes it seem like it is the entire area that is affected, when in reality it is usually localized. People who live in rural area always complain that those in cities don’t understand their lifestyle. I would postulate it goes both ways.

I agree with that.  My "city" is one where if it takes more than one red light to get through the intersection, it is a traffic jam!lol  I do not live in the country but I do live in a small town.  

Then your reaction to what was going on was over the top. Media always sensationalizes these things. You were no more at risk during those protests than you are today. The cities were not burning to the ground. Certain areas were affected. But if you lived in a “nice” area of any of those cities, you were not in real danger. My son lived about 1/2 mile away from the areas of protest in Washington. Other than hearing helicopters and smelling tear gas(on the day that trump had the protesters gassed) he had very little disruption to his life

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Nov 23, 2021 11:07:29 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Nov 23, 2021 10:31:00 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I agree with that.  My "city" is one where if it takes more than one red light to get through the intersection, it is a traffic jam!lol  I do not live in the country but I do live in a small town.  

Then your reaction to what was going on was over the top. Media always sensationalizes these things. You were no more at risk during those protests than you are today. The cities were not burning to the ground. Certain areas were affected. But if you lived in a “nice” area of any of those cities, you were not in real danger. My son lived about 1/2 mile away from the areas of protest in Washington. Other than hearing helicopters and smelling tear gas(on the day that trump had the protesters gassed) he had very little disruption to his life

I already admitted that my reaction was over the top.  Doesn't make my fear at that time less real for me.  

Why were the "nice" areas safe from danger?  

ETA:  Now I know my reaction was over the top.  At that point in time, I had no idea where riots were going to break out.  There was a BLM protest scheduled for "the city" that I referenced and that is only 10 minutes from my house.  Luckily, about 20 people showed up and it was nothing.  Even if it didn't destroy my house or any of my properties, I did not want my area destroyed.  I did not want my grocery stores, drug stores, gas stations, etc, destroyed.  I'm not ok with saying "well the nice areas weren't impacted".  No one should be impacted.  

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Nov 23, 2021 11:00:22 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 23, 2021 8:03:54 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

And now I'm going to be real.  Last summer, in the midst of the initial riots, I was PETRIFIED!  I felt extremely vulnerable and was reading hatred spread towards white people...all things from POC.  Then I see what appeared to be POC burning down their own damn cities.  In that moment, I wanted to move to the whitest area possible to escape the risk.  Then I started watching more clips of what was happening...not from any of the news outlets but from people living through the nightmare.  While the armchair liberals on here and on MSM were all happy about the riots because it was for a cause, I saw black people crying hysterically because their business that they worked so hard for was destroyed.  I saw young black people screaming at the rioters for destroying their towns.  I saw videos of blacks AND whites destroying the towns.

Unlike other people, I admit when I am wrong.  And I was wrong.  I said so in here and I also put the videos to which I am referencing up on my FB.  It was the black areas being destroyed but it was not only being done by black people.  I can't change my feelings in that exact moment but they were no different than your feelings.  You said in your post that you would not feel safe (or you would be wary of) living by white people.  It's the same thing.  But you don't get attacked for saying that you would be wary of living around white people like me but I'm crucified for saying the reverse, even when mine was said in the height of a true panic attack versus yours just being a general thought process.  Why doesn't saying that you would be wary of living in an all white area also make you racist?  That question was not meant to throw shade.  I'm honestly curious what the difference is.  If you feel that your personal safety would be at risk, that is no different than what I felt.  

I truly have no idea if your son would have made it out if it was him and not Kyle.  But i'm not ok with making Kyle a sacrificial lamb because people think a black person would have been treated differently.  People on this board wished him dead.  An 18 year old kid!  I am not ok with that, anymore than your son being shot just because he was black.  

As for my comment about "not used to living by people that burn the city down", that was a reply to Andi about my thought process last year.  She considered me weak because I was terrified of the riots.  I didn't realize that being a strong, independent female meant I had to be cool with being in the middle of a riot.  She and I obviously have different ideas of what a strong person is.  

I can't and won't keep apologizing because of something I said last year but I do own my words.  I do try to now make a conscious effort to get all of the facts before jumping to a conclusion.  Some people will always hold it against me and that is their right.  Most of us do not know each other in real life so we build our opinions of each other based on these boards.

Your generalizations are now bullshit. I, a liberal, am never happy to see properties burned and destroyed regardless of reason.

Knock it the fuck off.

There were several people on here that were in favor of it.  Just because you were't one of them doesn't make my claim less valid.  

[Tennesseer]

Nov 23, 2021 11:28:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 23, 2021 11:00:22 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Your generalizations are now bullshit. I, a liberal, am never happy to see properties burned and destroyed regardless of reason.

Knock it the fuck off.

There were several people on here that were in favor of it.  Just because you were't one of them doesn't make my claim less valid.  

You exagerated yesterday. You exagerated today. Just stop.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 23, 2021 11:34:32 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 23, 2021 11:28:18 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

There were several people on here that were in favor of it.  Just because you were't one of them doesn't make my claim less valid.  

You exagerated yesterday. You exagerated today. Just stop.

Where did I exaggerate yesterday?

One day I will scroll back through the riot threads and I will copy and paste for you what was said.  I can think of two posters just off the top of my head that were in favor of the riots.  Safely tucked away from the riots, of course.  

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Nov 22, 2021 21:38:01 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Miss Tequila I just want to say that I know that sometimes yours is the only comment I respond to the way I do. But, there’s something about you that makes me want to like you even though you piss me off with some of the things you say.

Some other posters I strongly disagree with, but I don’t even bother responding to or interacting with them because I don’t feel they or their posts are worth the energy. 

Whatever it is about you that makes me want to like you…… me being who I am, requires me to call you out on what I consider to be bullshit, in hopes that maybe you might rethink some stuff and at least try to see a different point of view on some things. 

I don’t say any of that to try to make you feel like you should say or do anything differently than how you feel or want to. I’m just saying why it might feel sometimes like I’m picking on you. I’m being honest just like I would with someone I know IRL that I’m willing to be bothered with until I’m not.

And if that violates the code of conduct on these boards, I’ll just hush about all of it, period.

This sums up how I feel too.  I was also thinking that Rittenhouse should change his name.  I am also thinking that people that return from military duty often need counseling to deal with the aftermath, so I would be all for him using some of the funds that were raised for his defense, to help him deal with what happened.

I am also thinking that if Republicans concentrated more on funding law enforcement and less on reducing taxes, that maybe there would have been law enforcement individuals trained to deal with crowd control and how to handle weapons, and there would be no need to have an untrained militia guarding property.  I am baffled by people that think that being inconvenienced gives them the right to kill someone or inflict bodily harm.  This does not directly pertain to the Kenosha Protests but to some of the comments re: The Waukesha Parade.  Why would you make it legal to drive a vehicle into a crowd of people because someone was inconvenienced by a protest?  Protests need to inconvenience people to get their attention.  We should just make them pull permits.  Provide law enforcement for crowd control and have them disburse when the allotted time for their protest is up.  Letting anyone who owns a gun they are not trained to use do whatever they think is justified to protect property over the lives of citizens is just nuts.  This is the picture of an authoritarian country - lives are only valuable if you are on the side of Power.

[Tennesseer]

Nov 23, 2021 11:45:08 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 23, 2021 11:34:32 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

You exagerated yesterday. You exagerated today. Just stop.

Where did I exaggerate yesterday?

One day I will scroll back through the riot threads and I will copy and paste for you what was said.  I can think of two posters just off the top of my head that were in favor of the riots.  Safely tucked away from the riots, of course.  

I quoted you. You received notice I quoted you. Look it up.

And you misused the word 'armchair'.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 23, 2021 11:56:11 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 23, 2021 11:45:08 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Where did I exaggerate yesterday?

One day I will scroll back through the riot threads and I will copy and paste for you what was said.  I can think of two posters just off the top of my head that were in favor of the riots.  Safely tucked away from the riots, of course.  

I quoted you. You received notice I quoted you. Look it up.

And you misused the word 'armchair'.

You don't know how to spell exaggerated so I guess we are even. 

FYI - here is one of the posts in favor of rioting by Later....copied and pasted but I can quote the original if you prefer.   And backed up by DJ...so yes, there were posters on here in favor of the riots, looting and violence.  So again, please show me where I exaggerated when I made that comment..

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I refuse to condemn the riots and looting. I really don't believe peaceful protests are effective. Colin Kaepernick proved that. I believe stopping the murder of innocent black people is important enough to get violent for.


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Jun 4, 2020 at 6:15pm laterbloomer said:

I refuse to condemn the riots and looting. I really don't believe peaceful protests are effective. Colin Kaepernick proved that. I believe stopping the murder of innocent black people is important enough to get violent for.

when the police stop responding as if they are the military, beating, shoving, gassing and shooting unarmed protestors, I will denounce this position.







until then, I will tacitly approve of it.

[pulmonarymd]

Nov 23, 2021 11:22:25 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 23, 2021 11:07:29 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Then your reaction to what was going on was over the top. Media always sensationalizes these things. You were no more at risk during those protests than you are today. The cities were not burning to the ground. Certain areas were affected. But if you lived in a “nice” area of any of those cities, you were not in real danger. My son lived about 1/2 mile away from the areas of protest in Washington. Other than hearing helicopters and smelling tear gas(on the day that trump had the protesters gassed) he had very little disruption to his life

I already admitted that my reaction was over the top.  Doesn't make my fear at that time less real for me.  

Why were the "nice" areas safe from danger?  

ETA:  Now I know my reaction was over the top.  At that point in time, I had no idea where riots were going to break out.  There was a BLM protest scheduled for "the city" that I referenced and that is only 10 minutes from my house.  Luckily, about 20 people showed up and it was nothing.  Even if it didn't destroy my house or any of my properties, I did not want my area destroyed.  I did not want my grocery stores, drug stores, gas stations, etc, destroyed.  I'm not ok with saying "well the nice areas weren't impacted".  No one should be impacted.  

The same reason you want to live in an area where it is “safe”. There have always been slums and ghettos. There will always be slums and ghettos. People like you will ensure that. If we cared enough to help people, there would be fewer areas. But given our human condition, and people’s destructive behavior, it is a fact. But you knew that.

Riots are never the answer. It leads to a backlash, and people who are rioting tend to destroy their own areas. But you accuse everyone me of reacting emotionally to this verdict, while all of your posts about the riots have been nothing but emotional

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 23, 2021 12:24:08 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Nov 23, 2021 11:22:25 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I already admitted that my reaction was over the top.  Doesn't make my fear at that time less real for me.  

Why were the "nice" areas safe from danger?  

ETA:  Now I know my reaction was over the top.  At that point in time, I had no idea where riots were going to break out.  There was a BLM protest scheduled for "the city" that I referenced and that is only 10 minutes from my house.  Luckily, about 20 people showed up and it was nothing.  Even if it didn't destroy my house or any of my properties, I did not want my area destroyed.  I did not want my grocery stores, drug stores, gas stations, etc, destroyed.  I'm not ok with saying "well the nice areas weren't impacted".  No one should be impacted.  

The same reason you want to live in an area where it is “safe”. There have always been slums and ghettos. There will always be slums and ghettos. People like you will ensure that. If we cared enough to help people, there would be fewer areas. But given our human condition, and people’s destructive behavior, it is a fact. But you knew that.

Riots are never the answer. It leads to a backlash, and people who are rioting tend to destroy their own areas. But you accuse everyone me of reacting emotionally to this verdict, while all of your posts about the riots have been nothing but emotional

Why are people like me keeping people in the projects? What exactly do I do that doesn’t allow a person to get an education and get out?

The law takes emotion out of it. People wanted him convicted (or dead) because they don’t like him. But if people took a step back, actually watched a large part of the trial and read up on the law, it would be obvious it was a just and fair verdict

Please tell me how rioting and destroying even a small section of a city is just or fair. Was I over the top in thinking that the destruction could actually reach me or impact me in any way? Absolutely and I have admitted that. But isn’t it worse to be one of those supporting the destruction from the safety of their white little world?

I’m 100% against any rioting for any reason. I’m 100% against destroying a community. And the destruction was against the most vulnerable. As much as I was afraid, I have enough in the bank and make enough money that I could go buy another house tomorrow. Counter that with the bodega owner who had no insurance and lost everything she had. So you can make me out to be the bad guy all you want, but anyone that supports destruction of these inner cities are horrible, horrible people.