Vaccinated

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 12, 2021 9:55:26 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

Hubs is all worried about our kids getting our assets and wanting to sign stuff over. I said NO we are not. I saw what ex DIL did to my inlaws and I had tried to explain, you NEVER know what people will do when money is involved. I'm not concerned about son, he is to much like his dad. But if he was deceased that would go to his wife, she would go to an attorney and doubt would make sure we had money from it. I might be wrong but legally it would be hers.

If I'm dead and gone do what he wants, but like I told him there is no guarantee we won't live 15 more years and my goodness, we might have to spend all we have just to live. I expect inflation coming back into play, I'm seeing it now in our electric bill. All of our families have been long lived. I know his concern is dementia like his mom. I'm not concerned for me but I am for him. He said the state will drain it all, most likely. But we will still be allowed a house there are laws it can't be taken with a disabled person living in it. I believe you are allowed a car and $2000. The look back is 5 years. 

He said yesterday, he could live in the trailer at his folks place and DD and I could take the motorhome and find a place around to live at Seattle as I want to be around grandson. He does make sense in that he can't go off and leave his mom. Like I said before she will "live" not live any quality of life but will exist likely to 100. She has had it for I would say 10 years. The nursing home folks said they think its getting a lot worse with her fighting.  So how much longer she will have I don't know.  

I don't understand why he wants to sign assets over.  Is he worried about having to pay for nursing home care?  

[countrygirl2]

I guess that's it. He wants to pass money on. We have wills, POA's, secondary beneficiary. He wants to help the family have more and do good. He worked hard for it, sees the wealthy have so many loopholes to protect the wealth and help the next generation. I see us needing what we have to live the rest of our life in relative comfort I hope.

He also sees all the money his mom and grandma paid out, when many with nothing get the same service. I'm just worried about the one that remains being able to live a comfortable life. My mom was lucky enough to live up most of her money, she only lived on medicaid a few months, so didn't effect her. She gave me her house and land years before, but she trusted hubs and I and we did right by her. Also it wasn't worth much at that time. I sold the house and she lived on that money till it was gone, I didn't keep it. I was only able to sell the land like that because of a striper going through. Just luck.

[TheOtherMe]

I did volunteer work as a rep payee for several years.  I worked with about 10 seniors who had no one to help them pay their bills.  

There are lots of people just like them all over.  There was a wait list for people to receive this assistance.

The only one who was a jerk had schizophrenia, so I did not hold that against her.  

I would not be surprised as I age if I have no one to help me--if the way my niece and nephews who live locally treat me now.

[stillmovingforward]

What about the kids who are storing stuff in your basement? Or the Toronto kids?

[TheOtherMe]

Feb 12, 2021 13:36:22 GMT -5 stillmovingforward said:

What about the kids who are storing stuff in your basement? Or the Toronto kids?

If the ones living in Toronto are still out of the country, I can't go live with them or live in their area.

The ones who are using my basement as a storage unit give me a glimmer of hope.  I will be more hopeful when they are actually married.

My niece was very good to me when I had my gall bladder surgery.  So time will tell.  

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 12, 2021 13:28:00 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

I did volunteer work as a rep payee for several years.  I worked with about 10 seniors who had no one to help them pay their bills.  

There are lots of people just like them all over.  There was a wait list for people to receive this assistance.

The only one who was a jerk had schizophrenia, so I did not hold that against her.  

I would not be surprised as I age if I have no one to help me--if the way my niece and nephews who live locally treat me now.

That makes me sad.  It was actually something I thought of before having kids.  I always wanted kids but my ex didn't (to be fair, he probably should't have had kids!).  I told him that having kids is part of life.  We help our parents as they age and then our kids help us as we age.  I sure hope my oldest turns out to be helpful because my youngest won't be able to help me!  

[tractor]

My dad (79) was able to get his first shot last week. He said things were very well organized and they ran over 100 people through in the hour he was there. This was at our local Health Department.

Some places have figured out how to make it work. Over time things will smooth themselves out, and everyone who wants one will get one.

[debthaven]

In theory, it looks like we will be able to be vaccinated sooner than we thought (we're in France). That's because the hospitals aren't happy with the side effects from the Astra Zeneca shot, so they are giving them to the GPs and pharmacies for the next age group, 50-64 with at least one comorbidity. They don't want to give them to anyone over 65 (although they certainly do in the UK). 

I hate to call you out/bother you pulmonarymd , but would you have a problem with getting the AZ vaccine? Neither DH nor I have a problem with it. Are we missing something?

PS Just spoke to one of my best friends, a GP in NY. He said GET IT! 

[Deleted]

Feb 12, 2021 10:43:32 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

I guess that's it. He wants to pass money on. We have wills, POA's, secondary beneficiary. He wants to help the family have more and do good. He worked hard for it, sees the wealthy have so many loopholes to protect the wealth and help the next generation. I see us needing what we have to live the rest of our life in relative comfort I hope.

He also sees all the money his mom and grandma paid out, when many with nothing get the same service. I'm just worried about the one that remains being able to live a comfortable life. My mom was lucky enough to live up most of her money, she only lived on medicaid a few months, so didn't effect her. She gave me her house and land years before, but she trusted hubs and I and we did right by her. Also it wasn't worth much at that time. I sold the house and she lived on that money till it was gone, I didn't keep it. I was only able to sell the land like that because of a striper going through. Just luck.

You might check out the "look back" period for your state as it applies to transfer of assets to access Medicaid.  Although you and your DH are healthy now (yay!), if you should need services in the future they might be denied if the transfer of assets happened in the previous (?) number of years.  Also, check on "claw back" provisions for your state.  I've read some good info on these boards on this topic over the last couple of years so you might do a search by topic and see what you find.  In Texas, the look back is 3 years as my friend found out when her mom transferred some CD's to her, which she then had to return in order for mom to qualify for Medicaid payments to her care home.  My friend had to pay up front for her mom until the transfer of the CD's back to mom was accomplished which took a couple of months at $3,000/month.

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 14, 2021 16:54:59 GMT -5 debthaven said:

In theory, it looks like we will be able to be vaccinated sooner than we thought (we're in France). That's because the hospitals aren't happy with the side effects from the Astra Zeneca shot, so they are giving them to the GPs and pharmacies for the next age group, 50-64 with at least one comorbidity. They don't want to give them to anyone over 65 (although they certainly do in the UK). 

I hate to call you out/bother you pulmonarymd , but would you have a problem with getting the AZ vaccine? Neither DH nor I have a problem with it. Are we missing something?

PS Just spoke to one of my best friends, a GP in NY. He said GET IT! 

I would get any vaccine you can get. Any protection is better than none. And if you get sick, you hopefully avoid a severe case

[debthaven]

Thanks pulmonarymd . Much appreciated! 

ETA: The only reason we have suddenly moved WAY up the timeline is because France now refuses to give the AZ vaccine to:

- anyone over 65 (not enough over 65s in the trials)
- hospital workers who haven't yet been vaccinated (supposedly more/stronger side effects)

I doubt it will be in very late February (when they start our age group), but hopefully in March. I can't wait!!!

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 14, 2021 18:15:57 GMT -5 debthaven said:

Thanks pulmonarymd . Much appreciated! 

ETA: The only reason we have suddenly moved WAY up the timeline is because France now refuses to give the AZ vaccine to:

- anyone over 65 (not enough over 65s in the trials)
- hospital workers (supposed more/stronger side effects)

I can't wait!!! I doubt it will be in very late February (when they start our age group), but hopefully in March!!!

I actually think that is a good strategy. I would also give it to the 20-49 yo. They are the main cause of spread. Could cut the number of cases faster

[debthaven]

As a university adjunct, I COMPLETELY agree. My (supposedly intelligent) students have Covid parties. 

But there is still a huge penury here, so they're working their way down in terms of age. 

[TheOtherMe]

I'm seeing my cousins vacationing in Florida this week (to get out of the cold and snow).  No masks, eating indoors, bar hopping.  

I don't understand.

[countrygirl2]

Us either we do nothing, sigh.

[tractor]

I had my second shot today, cautiously waiting to see if I have any side-effects, so far so good...

[irishpad]

Ditto for me, 2nd shot an hour ago.   Hoping for the best.  

[oped]

Feb 14, 2021 18:42:04 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

I'm seeing my cousins vacationing in Florida this week (to get out of the cold and snow).  No masks, eating indoors, bar hopping.  

I don't understand.

My father has an older couple visiting him in Florida from PA this week, and a different older couple going the following week. None of them are afraid of Covid, they say...  

[TheOtherMe]

I'm sorry oped   What can I say?  I don't understand.

The one I don't understand is my cousin who has stage 4 colon cancer.  She has decided against further treatment because they gave her a 50-50 chance it would work.  She is not fully recovered from her surgery to remove part of her long (where it had spread).  When she first came from from the hospital she requested no visitors because she couldn't have a cold.  Somebody asked her what about covid.  She said she hadn't gotten it yet and she would take her chances.  

As another cousin said that area of Iowa is very red and very anti mask, so she may not have felt comfortable saying no visitors because of covid.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

We had a milder case of COVID and now I get stressed anytime someone coughs. Including me.

It's the fact I could possibly get it again and get it worse that terrifies me.

Wish it was like chicken pox instead.

Gwen worked herself up into a stomach ache over a sore throat last week. Poor kid.

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It's definitely not just a cold. I'd much rather have a cold.




Why risk it? Masks aren't the end of the world. Try
wearing full BSL3 or 4 gear.

I do think masks prevented me from getting an even bigger dose of virus particles. Who knows how bad it could have been if she was breathing directly on my head.

[justme]

Heard rumors that after the 65+ Florida will vaccinate the teachers and grocery workers. If true I'm really fucking pissedc they're just leaving those of us under 65 but at high risk thanks to other diseases to twist in the wind. Fucking sucks.

[NastyWoman]

Feb 14, 2021 18:15:57 GMT -5 debthaven said:

Thanks pulmonarymd . Much appreciated! 

ETA: The only reason we have suddenly moved WAY up the timeline is because France now refuses to give the AZ vaccine to:

- anyone over 65 (not enough over 65s in the trials)
- hospital workers who haven't yet been vaccinated (supposedly more/stronger side effects)

I doubt it will be in very late February (when they start our age group), but hopefully in March. I can't wait!!!

DS2 told me they have the same approach in Germany. His ILs got the Moderna vaccine in Texas last week, I had my first dose of Pfizer.

[Mardi Gras Audrey]

Feb 16, 2021 22:04:08 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

We had a milder case of COVID and now I get stressed anytime someone coughs. Including me.

It's the fact I could possibly get it again and get it worse that terrifies me.

Wish it was like chicken pox instead.

Gwen worked herself up into a stomach ache over a sore throat last week. Poor kid.

.





It's definitely not just a cold. I'd much rather have a cold.




Why risk it? Masks aren't the end of the world. Try
wearing full BSL3 or 4 gear.

I do think masks prevented me from getting an even bigger dose of virus particles. Who knows how bad it could have been if she was breathing directly on my head.

So this on the masks. One of my coworkers had covid at the end of dec. the masks did an awesome job of protecting everyone else (there are 15 of us that work closely together). We wear masks all the time (mostly cloth but I was wearing an n95 some of the time). The coworker who got it didn’t wear her mask correctly or all the time. Yet no one else in our work group got sick. The last day before she tested for it, she was coughing a lot (that’s what pushed her to test).

Full disclosure: most of us had gotten the first vaccine dose ~4 days before she staa as started feeling bad. So between the l I’mited vaccine immunity and masks, we all made it through without getting sick

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 17, 2021 0:17:54 GMT -5 Mardi Gras Audrey said:

Feb 16, 2021 22:04:08 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

We had a milder case of COVID and now I get stressed anytime someone coughs. Including me.

It's the fact I could possibly get it again and get it worse that terrifies me.

Wish it was like chicken pox instead.

Gwen worked herself up into a stomach ache over a sore throat last week. Poor kid.

.





It's definitely not just a cold. I'd much rather have a cold.




Why risk it? Masks aren't the end of the world. Try
wearing full BSL3 or 4 gear.

I do think masks prevented me from getting an even bigger dose of virus particles. Who knows how bad it could have been if she was breathing directly on my head.

So this on the masks. One of my coworkers had covid at the end of dec. the masks did an awesome job of protecting everyone else (there are 15 of us that work closely together). We wear masks all the time (mostly cloth but I was wearing an n95 some of the time). The coworker who got it didn’t wear her mask correctly or all the time. Yet no one else in our work group got sick. The last day before she tested for it, she was coughing a lot (that’s what pushed her to test).

Full disclosure: most of us had gotten the first vaccine dose ~4 days before she staa as started feeling bad. So between the l I’mited vaccine immunity and masks, we all made it through without getting sick

I do not wear a mask in my house. My first symptom was on Sunday night but I had no fever and no reason to suspect Covid. From Sunday night through Wednesday, I bathed and brushed my daughters teeth. I laid in bed next to my husband. Neither of them got it.

So, while I do believe in masks and wear them religiously outside of my house. I also know there is no rhyme or reason as to who gets it and who doesn’t. My DH and DD definitely should have gotten it but didn’t

[jerseygirl]

Volunteers will be given Covid virus in UK to determine smallest amount of virus to cause disease
Article says the volunteers may be given a vaccine prior to exposure
Chilling experiment

www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSKBN2AH17H

[TheOtherMe]

If I have visitors or workers in my house, I have my own mask mandate.  I require them to wear a mask and I wear a mask.

DN3's fiance had no problem with it.  My sister told me I was being stupid.  His fiance is a teacher, in person.  She understood why I wanted her to wear a mask.

[oped]

Feb 17, 2021 6:55:12 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 17, 2021 0:17:54 GMT -5 Mardi Gras Audrey said:

So this on the masks. One of my coworkers had covid at the end of dec. the masks did an awesome job of protecting everyone else (there are 15 of us that work closely together). We wear masks all the time (mostly cloth but I was wearing an n95 some of the time). The coworker who got it didn’t wear her mask correctly or all the time. Yet no one else in our work group got sick. The last day before she tested for it, she was coughing a lot (that’s what pushed her to test).

Full disclosure: most of us had gotten the first vaccine dose ~4 days before she staa as started feeling bad. So between the l I’mited vaccine immunity and masks, we all made it through without getting sick

I do not wear a mask in my house. My first symptom was on Sunday night but I had no fever and no reason to suspect Covid. From Sunday night through Wednesday, I bathed and brushed my daughters teeth. I laid in bed next to my husband. Neither of them got it.

So, while I do believe in masks and wear them religiously outside of my house. I also know there is no rhyme or reason as to who gets it and who doesn’t. My DH and DD definitely should have gotten it but didn’t

From what I’ve read there is a good chance it’s more about the spreader than the potential infected. Small numbers infect a lot of people. Many infect none. The issue being we don’t know WHY that is yet, and who will be the superspreader is unknown. Thus the need to protect against everyone and assume you would be a superspreader if infected.

If this was Ebola, clear symptoms before contagious, it would be easier, but since Covid can spread asymptomaticly... it means everyone needs to be cautious all the time.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 17, 2021 9:00:11 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

If I have visitors or workers in my house, I have my own mask mandate.  I require them to wear a mask and I wear a mask.

DN3's fiance had no problem with it.  My sister told me I was being stupid.  His fiance is a teacher, in person.  She understood why I wanted her to wear a mask.

I agree I’d you have visitors in your house to wear a mask. I don’t have people in my house. I meant when I’m home with my family that I don’t wear a mask. I did once I got Covid and for a week after I got home from the hospital to prevent infection of my family. But on a normal basis, we do not wear masks at home.

[haapai]

Feb 17, 2021 8:32:51 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Volunteers will be given Covid virus in UK to determine smallest amount of virus to cause disease
Article says the volunteers may be given a vaccine prior to exposure
Chilling experiment

www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSKBN2AH17H

Thank-you for the heads-up.  I don't usually follow Reuters but this is definitely one of the stories that I want to hear from them first.  It's not news that I want to hear of first in an opinion piece. 

I'm not chilled by the experiment as much as I am saddened.  The first thing that comes to mind is that the US cannot design or run a similar experiment.  A bitterly divided country that does not have universal health care just can't do such a thing. 

The second reaction is disappointment that they are using the original strain instead of the B.1.1.7 variant.  There's a bit of studying the last war in that decision.  I can only hope that after this trial they may be able to design and run one that uses the B.1.1.7 variant. 

[jerseygirl]

Reuters.com is a great news site. Accurate non biased and covers news from around the world.