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Post by lurkyloo on Jun 11, 2021 19:00:58 GMT -5
I haven't worn a mask since the CDC stated vaccinated people don't need to wear one (unless the business requires it). Apparently, no one here trust the vaccine or the CDC. I trust the vaccine to be about 90% effective, which is great, but not 100%, especially with some of the newer variants. I trust the CDC to make broad recommendations with some political bent, since it is impossible to tailor individual recommendations for 330M people. They are playing a numbers game and looking at the macro view, because it’s their job. I find wearing a mask to be a pretty minor inconvenience, and a matter of courtesy to others-they can’t see my vaccine card, they can see my mask. I also value having my unvaccinated kid able to play guilt-free with my immunocompromised friend‘s unvaccinated kids, over shopping mask free. And psychologically, it has been a hard year and a half for basically everyone. If wearing a mask makes someone feel better and harms no one I’ve got no problem with it.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 11, 2021 20:34:46 GMT -5
I mask because my kids arent vaccinated. I'm unlikely to pass it to them, but I'd rather mask with them for solidarity.
Ds wears his mask even at outdoor activities. He's a smart kid.
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Post by movingforward on Jun 11, 2021 20:45:45 GMT -5
If some people want to keep masking up then that is absolutely fine but the respect should go both ways. I'm not going to wear a mask simply because someone I don't know at Target can't see my vaccination card. People are free to do whatever makes them comfortable at this point.
And my city currently has around 70 cases of covid with a population of 1.5 million people.
I do keep my distance from others at stores.
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Post by steff on Jun 11, 2021 22:13:07 GMT -5
My kiddo & I are officially fully vaccinated as of today. Kiddo is a 27 year old man, but he's still "kiddo" to me. Hubby has an appointment next week for his 1st shot.
I will most likely continue to wear a mask when I go to the store or places that are busy. There has never been an enforced mask mandate in my state (Georgia). I'm in a small rural, deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeply red area, so there has always been fewer masks than there should have been.
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Post by teen persuasion on Jun 11, 2021 22:16:22 GMT -5
DH still needs to mask at work, DS5 still needs to mask at school, and masks are still required by my employer - staff and patrons.
I'm still masking up in public to set the example - I know the vax stats for my county, and the county next door (shopping) - there's way more people bare-faced than have gotten a shot. I'm providing some push-back to the peer pressure to drop masks altogether, and in solidarity with the kids who can't be vaccinated yet.
I also want mask wearing to stay normal - for allergy sufferers, cold season, flu...
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Post by steff on Jun 11, 2021 22:21:44 GMT -5
I haven't worn a mask since the CDC stated vaccinated people don't need to wear one (unless the business requires it). Apparently, no one here trust the vaccine or the CDC. I live in an area with a low rate of vaccinations and mask use. My wife works in a higher risk environment and she just got her second shot yesterday. I am well past two weeks from my second shot but I still mask up inside. I think there is a very slight possibility I can suck in virus and exhale it into our home. I don't think it will make me sick but for the next two weeks I think my wife is still at some risk. I trust the vaccine. I have a general sense of what the CDC is recommending but I don't let others dictate the details of my decisions. Besides, I have a cool collection of masks that I rock. Sometimes fashion rules over function. I have also created a nice little collection of masks. I'm good for certain holidays (Halloween/Christmas/Easter/4th of July) and I even have glittery pink ones. (and glittery purple, blue, & black) Along with more cat face ones than I'm willing to admit to. Ok, so I have a large collection of masks. lol
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jun 12, 2021 1:19:08 GMT -5
I've been on the road a lot the last 11 days and I saw almost no masks in the 9 states I was in (5 red, 4 blue). Like really close to none. There were a few hotels that had signs up that masks were required in the lobby, but only 2 of them were even the employees wearing them. It was so surreal because the mask mandate here had just gone away the week before I left and the one at work the day I left. To be fair, I did spend most of my time at National Parks so a lot of people I came across were outside, but restaurants were running full swing just like pre-pandemic with the tourist town streets packed with people and all the park buildings that were open were full of unmasked people.
Monday everyone at my company that hasn't returned already is to report back to the office. No more work from home. I've been back since last June, so it's going to be a PIA having about 400 more people show up all at once. It was been so quiet there this past year.
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Post by lurkyloo on Jun 12, 2021 11:33:36 GMT -5
If some people want to keep masking up then that is absolutely fine but the respect should go both ways. I'm not going to wear a mask simply because someone I don't know at Target can't see my vaccination card. People are free to do whatever makes them comfortable at this point. And my city currently has around 70 cases of covid with a population of 1.5 million people. I do keep my distance from others at stores. That’s fair, and I don’t shame or harass non mask wearers. Just keep in mind we spent over a year being told „zomg wear your mask or EVERYONE WILL DIE!“ and it’s only been a few weeks since it’s suddenly ok not to wear them. Some people will take longer than others to adjust. (Also the honor system kind of sucks after spending so long on high alert, and with the amount of pushback masks and vaccines got in some areas.) I‘m in a very blue, very over educated area with extremely high vaccination rates. I still see about 80-90% mask usage in the grocery store. I am slowly starting to relax about masks, but pushing this particular area of personal growth is not a high priority right now. To each their own.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jun 12, 2021 14:26:16 GMT -5
I'm still wearing my mask indoors while my kids still have to. I've never worn one outside without being required to, or in close proximity to strangers. Never saw the point with that. I'm in a somewhat purple area. It's about 50% masking in stores here, maybe a little more. In Chicago, most people masked indoors, from what I saw, and also a good portion outside. I don't know what is required by law, I just followed suit.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 12, 2021 14:59:35 GMT -5
I do whatever the stores request. Thursday, a restaurant we were at that evening required masking when not seated. We masked. Friday, I was at the grocery store and there was a notice on the door if you were vaccinated, you did not need to mask. I did not wear a mask shopping, along with roughly 50% of the people I saw. I live in an area where vaccination is not quite as robust as Seattle, but much better than on the western side of the Cascades.
I think if I had children at home who were still vulnerable, or was needing to come home to an immunocompromised relative, I would continue to mask. However, the point of being vaccinated is to protect me from severe disease and (hopefully) prevent transmission. At this point, I am going to trust that vaccination worked until I hear otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2021 16:50:35 GMT -5
Went to Aldi and our local Japanese restaurant today, both were about 90% masked on the customer side and 100% masked on the employee side.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jun 13, 2021 12:13:25 GMT -5
I'm wearing one indoors for awhile longer. Vaccination rates aren't as good as they could be in my county. Only 55% has received at least one dose. The fully vaccinated rate is in the 30s.
The county is in the top 10 in the state for new cases. 3 weeks ago it was reported that vaccine rates were flattening in the county. I can't get the full article because I don't subscribe.
So yeah 30% fully vaccinated does not scream take off your mask to me. Other people can do whatever they want. I'm protecting me and my family. One grandma is 90 and the other has monthly chemotherapy.
I'm sitting at the Orlando airport currently and they are offering the covid vaccine.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 13, 2021 13:21:55 GMT -5
A man in my small town died Friday of long covid. His obit says he was a Democrat and outspoken about wearing masks. I know from experience that most people in this small town did not wear masks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 13:23:09 GMT -5
DS, age 35, called last night to ask for advice about which vaccine to get. FINALLY he's coming around. He'd weighed risks and benefits and was worried about the vaccine having been rushed out too fast. He's likely to go back to the office in September and his beloved children are too young to be vaccinated (I reminded him of that ) so he's finally planning to get one and so is DDIL. I am SO relieved. He wants to narrow his chances of being sick from it but I told him that from everything I've heard/read, side effects seem to be a crapshoot, unrelated to age, which vaccine you take or your overall health. My SIL, who expressed so much skepticism on FB about vaccines and why do you get one if they're not 100% effective, etc. that I stopped following her, has also been vaccinated. I have hope.
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Post by mollyc on Jun 13, 2021 13:46:39 GMT -5
DD (19) and her Beau (20) got their first shots of Pfizer on Tuesday. The resort he’s working at this summer is having a vaccine clinic but it will be too early for him to get a second shot. He’s gone until September so I’m hoping they have a second clinic at some point.
I got my second AZ shot yesterday. I was going to say that my arm didn’t hurt as much as last time but it heard my thought and has decided to start aching.
There was some confusion in my family when the province changed their plans for booking second shots so Dad’s second Pfizer shot isn’t until this Wednesday.
ODS and her DH are booked for Jun 22 when there is a clinic in their town. I don’t know about the rest of my family. We haven’t talked much in the last month.
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Post by Opti on Jun 13, 2021 15:09:26 GMT -5
A man in my small town died Friday of long covid. His obit says he was a Democrat and outspoken about wearing masks. I know from experience that most people in this small town did not wear masks. It happens. Exposure. After virtual service I was remembering the folks that had died from Covid last year and made myself sad, thinking about the people who could not or chose not to be with their loved ones when they died. Not enough was known in the beginning, and with long Covid I think we will be learning stuff for years.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 13, 2021 16:38:15 GMT -5
A man in my small town died Friday of long covid. His obit says he was a Democrat and outspoken about wearing masks. I know from experience that most people in this small town did not wear masks. It happens. Exposure. After virtual service I was remembering the folks that had died from Covid last year and made myself sad, thinking about the people who could not or chose not to be with their loved ones when they died. Not enough was known in the beginning, and with long Covid I think we will be learning stuff for years. For this area, it was eye opening that the family put all of that in the obituary. It also names a local bar where he thinks he was exposed. So he was taking some risks by going to the bar and it cost him his life.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 14, 2021 14:55:23 GMT -5
We wore them in the grocery store this weekend and were in the clear minority. The employees were not masked.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 14, 2021 15:16:35 GMT -5
We wore them in the grocery store this weekend and were in the clear minority. The employees were not masked. The grocery store where my wife works is not requiring employees who document being fully vaccinated to wear masks.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 14, 2021 15:40:32 GMT -5
Well, this morning I reminded my sister that she needs to make movement to be vaccinated. I got zero push back from her, and she agreed. I hope she does not disappoint me.
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Post by Tiny on Jun 14, 2021 15:46:38 GMT -5
Late last week - I was at a big box grocery about 20 miles away (different county, different suburb but still in the land of concrete and steel - you need to go another 20 miles or so to the cornfields.) people going in were wearing masks (majority - cloth ones - some 'fashionable' versus paper ones) People coming out were also wearing masks. The sign on the door said if you were fully vaccinated no need to mask. I had a pretty mask with me - so I wore it in to the store (got my 2nd shot at the end of April - so fully vaccinated in early May.) All the check out clerks were wearing masks and I'd say I saw 3 people not wearing masks in the store.
Was in the local Aldi late on Sunday - and every one was wearing a mask (even if it was below their nose). The sign on the door said you didn't need a mask if fully vaccinated. I wore a mask going in - because I saw people coming and going with masks. The store was crowded because apparently it was Bring your family to the Grocery Store night... I think there were maybe 20 "shoppers" and about 60 non-shoppers in the store. The non-shoppers were milling around in groups as they trailed after their "shopper". A queue formed at the Milk/Egg case - because the the "groups" took up all the space around the case and moved very slowly away from the case. No one really wanted to move thru the milling around group to get to the case to grab a milk or a carton of eggs. And I had to run the gauntlet thru the large milling crowd at the exit door (they were waiting for their shopper to bag their purchases) I HATE Family Shopping Night. I hated it pre-covid.
I will be taking my car in for an oil change on Friday - it will be interesting to see if anyone there is masked. The last time I was there - the waiting room was socially distanced and people were wearing masks - I kind of hung out outside (benches and patio tables/chairs). I will probably do the same on Friday = regardless of masks/no masks.
I am not adverse to continued mask wearing (along with continued hand washing) - I really enjoyed a year of no colds or general viruses or norovirus or having to think about the flu so much.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 15:54:43 GMT -5
The store was crowded because apparently it was Bring your family to the Grocery Store night... I think there were maybe 20 "shoppers" and about 60 non-shoppers in the store. The non-shoppers were milling around in groups as they trailed after their "shopper". A queue formed at the Milk/Egg case - because the the "groups" took up all the space around the case and moved very slowly away from the case. No one really wanted to move thru the milling around group to get to the case to grab a milk or a carton of eggs. Yeah, I find that really annoying now. Staying 6' away from people I don't know has become a habit and when I can't get to what I need because they're blocking my way for an extended period I get impatient. I agree- I'll keep these habits even though I'm fully vaccinated.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jun 14, 2021 16:56:49 GMT -5
I agree too .... Plus I never liked hugging and kissing people I don't know anyway.
Delta variant is increasing exponentially here.... and we have delayed opening up for another month(so we can get more people vaccinated) Seems to be a bit of a race.
The vaccine is good so its not all bad news, though you do need both jabs..... Its not 100% and the bigger the infection we have the more people will be hospitalised.
We'll have to wait and see if the rates level off.
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Post by Opti on Jun 14, 2021 17:09:38 GMT -5
Well, this morning I reminded my sister that she needs to make movement to be vaccinated. I got zero push back from her, and she agreed. I hope she does not disappoint me. Good luck. We had another vaccine clinic, and recent admits could have opted in. I learned about one new person who doesn't want to do so, even though according to social work, not being vaccinated may hurt people's chances to get services like visiting nurses, etc. once discharge. Some co-workers got shots as well, although I think most were not day shifters.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 18:05:57 GMT -5
How things have changed.
About four months ago I drove 75 miles to get vaccinated at the first place that contacted me after signing up on 7 lists. There was clearly Vaccine Envy on FB- typically when someone posted their "I've been vaccinated" news, responses included "How did YOU get one when I can't find any for my 88-year old mother who's overweight and smokes..." For that reason I didn't give mine a lot of publicity.
Tomorrow the County Health Department scheduled a vaccine event in our church- they'd approached us and scheduled it less than a week after we got back to them. No appointment necessary. I see that CA is among many states offering lotteries with cash prizes (and in the case of California, chances at 15 "dream vacations") to those being vaccinated.
I'm still glad I got mine early.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 14, 2021 20:01:18 GMT -5
How things have changed. About four months ago I drove 75 miles to get vaccinated at the first place that contacted me after signing up on 7 lists. There was clearly Vaccine Envy on FB- typically when someone posted their "I've been vaccinated" news, responses included "How did YOU get one when I can't find any for my 88-year old mother who's overweight and smokes..." For that reason I didn't give mine a lot of publicity. Tomorrow the County Health Department scheduled a vaccine event in our church- they'd approached us and scheduled it less than a week after we got back to them. No appointment necessary. I see that CA is among many states offering lotteries with cash prizes (and in the case of California, chances at 15 "dream vacations") to those being vaccinated. I'm still glad I got mine early. I am not for these lotteries but, should I win (every vaccinated CA resident is automatically enrolled) I will not decline a price. I saw an article a couple of days ago that claimed that 10 of the country's large cities have reached vacination rates high enough to reach herd immunity level. Three were in CA and two of those were right here in the Bay Area. So no matter if I win a price or not, I consider myself a winner in the vaccine lottery of the world and I am grateful for that!
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 14, 2021 20:26:07 GMT -5
My health insurance company is going to put $50 on my FSA card after I uploaded the front and back of the vaccination card. So I did get something. People have until December 31 to submit their cards.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Jun 14, 2021 21:57:15 GMT -5
DS's college just announced they will not require vaccinations this Fall, but the surveys they've done show that 84% of students/staff were fully vaccinated and 96% had at least one dose, so they probably feel mandating isn't necessary with those numbers. Masks on campus no longer required and classes will be in-person starting this Fall. Summer classes are still mostly online.
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Post by Opti on Jun 14, 2021 22:14:21 GMT -5
My health insurance company is going to put $50 on my FSA card after I uploaded the front and back of the vaccination card. So I did get something. People have until December 31 to submit their cards. Hmmm I wonder if mine would do something like that. I've only scanned the front of my card. I guess if I remember I'll scan the back tomorrow.
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Post by Tiny on Jun 15, 2021 11:08:03 GMT -5
My complicated friend (as another person brought up mental illness - yes, my friend does suffer from anxiety, depression, with some PTSD) is getting her second shot this weekend. I am so glad she was given an appointment (and didn't need to make one herself). She's a little balky about going to the appointment - but I said I would take her.
I will be checking in on her on Sunday morning under the disguise of "Let's have a "girl coffee klatch" - I'll bring coffee and donuts. She's anxious/worried, but avoiding the idea, that she might have a fever and chills from the 2nd shot.
She's been upset that she's so far behind everyone else (everyone else is vaccinated) and now our State has opened up 100% and everything is moving towards pre-pandemic working/capacity. At least she'll be good to go by July 4th or so. I've been mentioning people I know who have just gotten their first shot (or the J&J shot) in last two weeks so she's not that far behind.
Hopefully once she's fully vaccinated she will be able to move past some of the anxiety/depression that the last 15 months have brought on.
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