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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 27, 2021 10:43:52 GMT -5
Well that's some good news. Nothing we can do about the hard core anti-vaxxers just like every other disease they refuse to vaccinate against they'll have to take their chances eventually. This seems to have worked out though in regards to fence sitters. Hopefully the momentum keeps up. www.cnn.com/2021/05/27/health/vaccination-interest-cdc-mask-guidance/index.htmlData obtained exclusively by CNN shows that interest in getting vaccinated against Covid-19 increased right after Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, announced two weeks ago that vaccinated people could take off their masks.
"This shows incentives matter," said Dr. Jonathan Reiner, professor of medicine and surgery at George Washington University School of Medicine. "People needed a carrot, and the carrot was the ability to drop the mask in most settings."
The data comes from vaccines.gov, where people look up vaccination sites by zip code. On the afternoon of May 13, just after Walensky's announcement, the number of visits to the site started to climb, hitting its second highest number of visitors since the website was launched on April 30
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 11:10:17 GMT -5
I think people going out w/o a mask at all, because they are DONE with masks, is going to become an increasing problem for us. Most if not all retail stores, etc, have chosen to allow some to go w/o masks on the honor system. So those DONE with masks think EVERYONE allows it. Nope, we don't. The CDC, and the state, created a free-for-all the way they announced they were lifting the mask regulations. People only hear the parts they WANT to hear. I agree. I was in the cardiologist's office 2 days ago. A guy on the other side of the waiting room was sitting there with his mask down around his neck playing on his phone. The entire building (medical offices within hospital complex) has signs all over saying masks are required. I am SO tired of confronting these idiots. I should have told the staff but didn't. Later they sent me a survey and while i gave the doctor and the nurse very high marks, I noted the maskless guy. In a cardiologists' waiting room. Where people have known or potential cardiac problems and the average age was likely over 65.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 27, 2021 11:14:09 GMT -5
I would actually be fine if they made mask wearing permenant in doctor's offices. Or even continuing to remain in my car until the appointment. Cause it never fails the entire waiting room will be empty besides me and some couching/hacking/sneezing ahole will show up and sit either right behind or right next to me. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/grrr.png) I have been really enjoying not having to worry about what germs are being sprayed on the back of my head.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 27, 2021 11:18:32 GMT -5
My local Walgreens was doing a very brisk vaccination business last Saturday. I'm keeping my mask on indoors for now. I don't trust people are following the rules plus it blocks some pollen as I walk from my car.
I think interest was going down but hopefully places going to a walk in basis will bump the numbers up. I do think there was a group who will probably get it but didn't want the appointment hassle.
ETA: I agree 100% with drama. I am always by someone hacking up a lung or someone with a pigpen cloud of perfume/cigarette smoke. And they always sit by me even when other seats are available.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 27, 2021 11:28:31 GMT -5
My local Walgreens was doing a very brisk vaccination business last Saturday. I'm keeping my mask on indoors for now. I don't trust people are following the rules plus it blocks some pollen as I walk from my car. I think interest was going down but hopefully places going to a walk in basis will bump the numbers up. I do think there was a group who will probably get it but didn't want the appointment hassle. ETA: I agree 100% with drama. I am always by someone hacking up a lung or someone with a pigpen cloud of perfume/cigarette smoke. And they always sit by me even when other seats are available. What is it with that?! It's not like you know me you are a total stranger so WTF compels you to sit in the seat next to me out of the dozens of other chairs around the room?
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Post by daisylu on May 27, 2021 11:32:31 GMT -5
linkCVS offering prizes for vaccinations: CVS said in a statement that in an effort to “provide a positive reminder of the activities that are possible once vaccinated,” it had joined with other companies to offer prizes to people who get a shot at one of its pharmacies. Among the incentives: Weeklong Norwegian Cruises, $100 dates sponsored by the dating app Hinge and a trip to Super Bowl LVI next year. CVS will give 125 people $500 and five people $5,000 to host family reunions. People 18 and older who “received a vaccination or certify that they’ve registered to receive a vaccination from CVS Health” are eligible for the sweepstakes, which runs from June 1 to July 10, the statement said.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 27, 2021 13:01:25 GMT -5
I got a warm fuzzy feeling today. I am probably responsible for at least a dozen people getting vaccinated who had no intention.
Last Jan, I had a very long discussion with my PT about the vaccine. She was on the fence about it. I explained the science to her in terms she understood, and when she could get vaccinated, she did. She preached my info to her husband, and all her other patients who weren’t going to get vaccinated, and they ultimately did.
Too bad my sister is still reading stupid people. She had this great idea to quote Mercola to me last call. I called him a quack and she changed the subject.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 27, 2021 14:07:22 GMT -5
I do wish that they would've just kept the mask requirements in place until the kids could get vaccinated. My oldest is about a week away from getting his 2nd shot, but I still have 2 that don't qualify yet. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/yeahthat.gif) This is exactly what I think should have happened. That the CDC jumped the gun and let everyone ditch masks BEFORE a significant subset of the population is even authorized to get vaccinated is horrible. It really sends the wrong message - selfish adults whining loudly are more important than our children. I got mine - too bad for you. They completely threw out the window any leverage they had over complainers, on the basis of continuing to wait a bit longer for the sake of everyone. Nope, apparently kids don't rate, are expendable.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 27, 2021 14:13:24 GMT -5
People have been selfish and complains about any restrictions from the very beginning. Not any different now. If people could be trusted to behave according to the guidelines, we wouldn’t have any problems. But we have become a nation of entitled jerks
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 27, 2021 16:11:10 GMT -5
My local Walgreens was doing a very brisk vaccination business last Saturday. I'm keeping my mask on indoors for now. I don't trust people are following the rules plus it blocks some pollen as I walk from my car. I think interest was going down but hopefully places going to a walk in basis will bump the numbers up. I do think there was a group who will probably get it but didn't want the appointment hassle. ETA: I agree 100% with drama. I am always by someone hacking up a lung or someone with a pigpen cloud of perfume/cigarette smoke. And they always sit by me even when other seats are available. What is it with that?! It's not like you know me you are a total stranger so WTF compels you to sit in the seat next to me out of the dozens of other chairs around the room? That is my thought. I don't know you so please go away. Especially in a practically empty waiting room. It's one thing if it's full but if not space out.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jun 2, 2021 6:50:00 GMT -5
We are seeing an upturn in infections..... mostly Indian variant (delta) which is now our dominant strain...... but there hasn't been a correlating increase in hospitalisations/deaths.
Due to open up completely on June 21st..... Not sure that is going to happen if there is another wave on the horizon. There is a mass vaccination push.
Young people can still get this and although they are less likely to die they can get post viral illnesses.
Its a wait and see game at the moment.
Its just possible we are on our way out of this...... for now. Although we are trialling boosters for the Autumn.
Still a lot of people in the World without vaccines and just as soon as the over 18s have had theirs........ the vaccines we have will be going to Covax.
Doesnt look like we are vaccinating children at the moment.
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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on Jun 2, 2021 7:26:25 GMT -5
I do wish that they would've just kept the mask requirements in place until the kids could get vaccinated. My oldest is about a week away from getting his 2nd shot, but I still have 2 that don't qualify yet. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/yeahthat.gif) This is exactly what I think should have happened. That the CDC jumped the gun and let everyone ditch masks BEFORE a significant subset of the population is even authorized to get vaccinated is horrible. It really sends the wrong message - selfish adults whining loudly are more important than our children. I got mine - too bad for you. They completely threw out the window any leverage they had over complainers, on the basis of continuing to wait a bit longer for the sake of everyone. Nope, apparently kids don't rate, are expendable. The problem is that the CDC was between a rock and a hard place. Yes, it would have been easier to keep the mask mandate for all but they have been accused of having a mandate for “control”. If they kept the mandate despite the science saying a fully vaccinated person was good, they would have made it seem like the masks weren’t about science at all and play into the control narrative. By following the science and announcing this, they are putting it back on the people. If someone lies and says they are vaccinated so they don’t have to mask, that is on them and they should be responsible. No different from lying when u are with a partner and saying u don’t have hiv so u don’t have to wear a condom. It’s pathetic we have so many selfish adults that think 1. An infectious disease is about freedom 🤨 and 2. Care so little about their friends.”, families, and neighbors that they are willing to risk their lives so they aren’t uncomfortable for a few minutes. I can’t wait until they get the vaccine approval for kids.I want them protected as soon as possible
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jun 2, 2021 8:33:09 GMT -5
I agree the CDC is in a bad spot. Unfortunately, I doubt adults who are lying about their vaccination status are going to be held accountable. It seems most prior contact tracing efforts have switched to vaccination.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 2, 2021 8:54:46 GMT -5
I heard someone say that after the CDC announced that vaccinated people did not have to wear masks there was a bump in demand for the vaccine. People heard that and it inspired them to get vaccinated.
I know people who wanted to "wait and see" - but I am not sure what they were waiting to see. If it was efficacy, the mask announcement gave the vaccine credibility.
I also knew people who were waiting because they were healthy, so they did not need to be first in line. They say they wanted to make sure those that really need it got it first. I don't know if the thought of not wearing a mask and still being protected motivated them to finally get the shot, or if the vaccine became so easy to get, they jumped in.
Either way, if lifting the mandate pushed a few more into a fully vaccinated status, all those jerks who don't get the vaccine are putting themselves at risk way more than me. I just can't feel for them anymore. (I do really feel for those that can't get a vaccine for real reasons. That totally sucks.)
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jun 2, 2021 9:03:49 GMT -5
I don't care about the people who just don't want to be vaccinated and aren't wearing a mask. I do feel badly for those who can't be vaccinated, kids too young and those for whom the vaccine might not be as effective. Those are the people who will be hurt by the selfish jerks.
Maybe it will turn out that it does work for that segment but the current thought is you won't get that 90+% effective with the immune compromised.
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Post by haapai on Jun 2, 2021 9:13:05 GMT -5
Yes, there was a bump-up in vaccinations but the Pfizer vaccine was approved for the 12-15 set at almost the same time. I saw a graphic that showed how much of the uptick was due to children in that age group getting their first dose and it was almost all of it.
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Post by haapai on Jun 2, 2021 9:56:59 GMT -5
If you want to get a sense of how many people are fibbing about their vaccination status in order to avoid wearing a mask indoors, look at their teenage children. Currently, only the Pfizer vaccine is approved for anyone under 16 and that happened in the second week of May. Unless the kiddies were part of a clinical trial, there is no way that they are fully vaccinated yet.
Sometimes the kids in those maskless families look really uncomfortable shopping with their parents at the supermarket. They know that they aren't fooling anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 16:14:39 GMT -5
I've seen zero shift in my unvaccinated friends; they aren't vaccinated and won't ever be for a variety of reasons. My position hasn't shifted either-if you are in my vehicle or home, you will wear a mask.
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Post by Opti on Jun 2, 2021 17:41:32 GMT -5
If you want to get a sense of how many people are fibbing about their vaccination status in order to avoid wearing a mask indoors, look at their teenage children. Currently, only the Pfizer vaccine is approved for anyone under 16 and that happened in the second week of May. Unless the kiddies were part of a clinical trial, there is no way that they are fully vaccinated yet.
Sometimes the kids in those maskless families look really uncomfortable shopping with their parents at the supermarket. They know that they aren't fooling anyone.
I don't meet too many anti-vax people who won't wear masks because I work in a healthcare facility. However, it occurs to me that two potential visitors walked in I think without masks. They are unvaccinated. They were unwilling to be swabbed, rapid tested, so again they bailed. I do not understand some people. Healthcare facilities are going to be the last places to really open up. Visitors need to protect patients and residents. I don't get why you would even do that to a loved one that is here, let alone the rest of the people you might be near.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 18:23:43 GMT -5
I need to book an appointment at my local clinic for lab work for my annual physical, and also a mammogram. I'll be curious to see how the mask thing works in those environments. I just can't accept anyone being in close physical proximity without a mask.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 2, 2021 20:24:08 GMT -5
I need to book an appointment at my local clinic for lab work for my annual physical, and also a mammogram. I'll be curious to see how the mask thing works in those environments. I just can't accept anyone being in close physical proximity without a mask. At this point, most medical offices are still requiring mask use. This is per my PT at my appt last week. Mammograms aren’t a big deal, and neither is lab work. Physicals they leave out any part that requires you to be unmasked.
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Post by teen persuasion on Jun 3, 2021 8:21:21 GMT -5
I need to book an appointment at my local clinic for lab work for my annual physical, and also a mammogram. I'll be curious to see how the mask thing works in those environments. I just can't accept anyone being in close physical proximity without a mask. At this point, most medical offices are still requiring mask use. This is per my PT at my appt last week. Mammograms aren’t a big deal, and neither is lab work. Physicals they leave out any part that requires you to be unmasked. Not a physical, but DS5 had an issue with his jaw locking up. He had to see a specialist. Most of the appointment was fully masked, but he obviously had to remove his mask briefly for the exam, and for molds to be made. The doctor wore both mask and shield. By his follow-up appointment DS5 was fully vaccinated, but his initial appointment was before he or I were eligible for vaccination.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 3, 2021 9:43:57 GMT -5
At this point, most medical offices are still requiring mask use. This is per my PT at my appt last week. Mammograms aren’t a big deal, and neither is lab work. Physicals they leave out any part that requires you to be unmasked. Not a physical, but DS5 had an issue with his jaw locking up. He had to see a specialist. Most of the appointment was fully masked, but he obviously had to remove his mask briefly for the exam, and for molds to be made. The doctor wore both mask and shield. By his follow-up appointment DS5 was fully vaccinated, but his initial appointment was before he or I were eligible for vaccination. Both of us are vaccinated for my PT appt and both are masked. I asked my PT since we are both now vaccinated, could we ditch the masks. Policy for medical appts as of last week was not now. This is in WA, but not sure across states. The only place I have not been masked is at the dentist.....for obvious reasons.....and they have on goggles, masks and shields.
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Post by bean29 on Jun 3, 2021 11:24:15 GMT -5
When I got my nails done yesterday, I wore my mask. I am vaccinated, but they don't know if you are, or if you are just pretending. Even before the pandemic, nail techs frequently wore masks due to the dust flying around from grinding the nails and the fumes from the polish remover.
I also noticed when I was in the mall that there were a lot of people wearing masks. I was surprised. I expected to see most not wearing a mask.
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Post by jerseygirl on Jun 3, 2021 13:12:47 GMT -5
Went to Home Depot today. Majority of guys were masked inside Outside by plants fewer had masks Surprised, in NJ now if you’re vaccinated, no mask needed So thinking a lot of those with masks haven’t been vaccinated- too bad
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 3, 2021 13:30:49 GMT -5
I need to book an appointment at my local clinic for lab work for my annual physical, and also a mammogram. I'll be curious to see how the mask thing works in those environments. I just can't accept anyone being in close physical proximity without a mask. I had my boobs in a vise 1.5 weeks ago - a long overdue test that came back clear. So they had spaced out appointments such that I saw only two other women for testing and we were kept socially distanced. The test was performed exactly on time and if I ever get called into a court to testify to the shape of the mouth or the nose of the women there, I would have to say that I cannot be certain they even had a mouth nor could I say anything about their nose. In other words everyone was fully masked - no big deal ETA: I had bloodwork done a week earlier. Same deal, appointments, no waiting time, everyone fully masked. I would not mind if that stays the same after all this is truly behind us. I used to show up for bloodwork at 6am on a Saturday morning so I would not have those long waiting times. This was much nicer
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jun 3, 2021 13:34:12 GMT -5
Went to Home Depot today. Majority of guys were masked inside Outside by plants fewer had masks Surprised, in NJ now if you’re vaccinated, no mask needed So thinking a lot of those with masks haven’t been vaccinated- too bad I've been fully vaccinated for a month now. Just last weekend, I wore a mask at Home Depot inside, but not outside.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 3, 2021 14:09:01 GMT -5
linkCVS offering prizes for vaccinations: CVS said in a statement that in an effort to “provide a positive reminder of the activities that are possible once vaccinated,” it had joined with other companies to offer prizes to people who get a shot at one of its pharmacies. Among the incentives: Weeklong Norwegian Cruises, $100 dates sponsored by the dating app Hinge and a trip to Super Bowl LVI next year. CVS will give 125 people $500 and five people $5,000 to host family reunions. People 18 and older who “received a vaccination or certify that they’ve registered to receive a vaccination from CVS Health” are eligible for the sweepstakes, which runs from June 1 to July 10, the statement said. This is how my uncle convinced my grandpa to get the vaccine. He can't pass up freebies. He had to have it at the pharmacy my cousin works at. At that point his kids were so tired of trying to get him to get it that they said fine and drove him directly over there.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 3, 2021 14:11:40 GMT -5
My mom suggested to get people to get it here offer free fireworks. People are always blowing shit up in our neighborhood pretty much any holiday even when it's not legal to do so. I could totally see that working. Get a shot, get a coupon for a free explosive.
You'd have Council-tuckians lining up around the block.
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Post by steph08 on Jun 3, 2021 14:11:55 GMT -5
Went to Home Depot today. Majority of guys were masked inside Outside by plants fewer had masks Surprised, in NJ now if you’re vaccinated, no mask needed So thinking a lot of those with masks haven’t been vaccinated- too bad I've been fully vaccinated for a month now. Just last weekend, I wore a mask at Home Depot inside, but not outside. I was in Walmart yesterday and wore a mask. My 5yo was with me, so she wears a mask and I wear a mask even though I'm vaccinated.
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