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Post by Opti on May 19, 2021 6:32:46 GMT -5
Unfortunately as you know for many people the talking points are kids don't get Covid, or if they do its not as bad as adults. I get it, because kids can and have died. I'm less aware of long haul and other symptoms in children, but I'd be concerned. Your kids though are easily at the age of decent compliance for mask wearing. If you can keep 6 feet of distance around them you should be OK, especially if they double mask and/or replace their mask with a clean one right after service.
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Post by azucena on May 19, 2021 9:08:51 GMT -5
Yes, my kids easily comply with masks. It's more that they are both smart enough to ask why the adults aren't bothering to protect them. Unfortunately, I've been disillusioned with my particular churches response to covid.
VBS will happen in the first week in June with 250+ kids ages 3-10 and 10-14 helping. My family is choosing not to attend this year again. They delayed until end of July last year, and I thought they were crazy then.
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Post by daisylu on May 19, 2021 9:33:38 GMT -5
Store near my house had a sign posted on the door. Paraphrasing as I did not take a pic, "Following CDC guidelines masks are no longer required for those who have been vaccinated. Unvaccinated customers are still encouraged to wear a mask. You may still wear a mask if that is your preference.". Employees were not masked, and I was the only customer (8-10 people) with one it.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 9:43:33 GMT -5
Store near my house had a sign posted on the door. Paraphrasing as I did not take a pic, "Following CDC guidelines masks are no longer required for those who have been vaccinated. Unvaccinated customers are still encouraged to wear a mask. You may still wear a mask if that is your preference.". Employees were not masked, and I was the only customer (8-10 people) with one it. My favorite grocery chain (HyVee) now has a similar policy. Yeah, it's legal but I'm not happy. I'm fully vaccinated but will continue wearing mine.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 19, 2021 11:23:51 GMT -5
I have to go grocery shopping today, so will mask up. Yesterday at the club, mask use is still requested. Earlier this week, the framer we visited has one more staff waiting for her second vaccine and she said she’d lift the requirement when her last employee is fully vaccinated. My PT is required that we both are masked.
I guess for the next period of time, at least locally it is going to be business by business, at least in WA. I know Seattle is keeping masks until June, I think I heard.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 19, 2021 11:58:48 GMT -5
For now I will be wearing my mask inside. Outdoors I'll evaluate based on how crowded, etc. Supposedly 50% of my county has had at least one dose. The other 50% is in no way entirely composed of kids. I do not expect the unvaccinated to wear their masks indoors. I expect they will lie about their status. So to protect me and my family, I'm going to leave the mask on for now.
I'd like to get my asthma doctor's take on it for me personally based on my issues. My next appointment isn't until late June.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 19, 2021 12:23:55 GMT -5
For now I will be wearing my mask inside. Outdoors I'll evaluate based on how crowded, etc. Supposedly 50% of my county has had at least one dose. The other 50% is in no way entirely composed of kids. I do not expect the unvaccinated to wear their masks indoors. I expect they will lie about their status. So to protect me and my family, I'm going to leave the mask on for now. I'd like to get my asthma doctor's take on it for me personally based on my issues. My next appointment isn't until late June. Have you found that the mask requirement helped your chronic infections/allergies? I know that since most of us have not been as exposed this past year, your chances of picking up something are less, but have they helped you any?
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 19, 2021 13:31:19 GMT -5
I had a pretty nasty sinus infection when things shut down. It took over 2 months and finally Levaquin to kick it. The ENT wanted to do some cultures but their office closed and it was too bad so sad for me.
I was not sick at all this winter. I'm struggling right now with allergies but everything is blooming. I have all the drugs and I'm wearing sunglasses everywhere. I'm at the beach right now and that's helping.
I think masks have helped indoors. It was getting pretty rough pre pandemic for me to go down the laundry and cleaning aisles in stores. It also helps with the people who have a pigpen cloud of perfume or cigarette smoke.
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Post by steph08 on May 19, 2021 14:12:10 GMT -5
For now I will be wearing my mask inside. Outdoors I'll evaluate based on how crowded, etc. Supposedly 50% of my county has had at least one dose. The other 50% is in no way entirely composed of kids. I do not expect the unvaccinated to wear their masks indoors. I expect they will lie about their status. So to protect me and my family, I'm going to leave the mask on for now. I'd like to get my asthma doctor's take on it for me personally based on my issues. My next appointment isn't until late June. Have you found that the mask requirement helped your chronic infections/allergies? I know that since most of us have not been as exposed this past year, your chances of picking up something are less, but have they helped you any? I know you aren't asking me, and this is just one anecdote, but here I go anyway My oldest DD had scarlet fever once and strep throat twice in kindergarten (2019-2020 - school shut down in March). She started first grade full-time in person in August 2020 with masks and social distancing. She had no instances of anything more than a very slight head cold in September and again in April (this one was probably mostly allergies, but I also got a slight cold then, she maybe a combo).
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Post by busymom on May 19, 2021 14:31:50 GMT -5
For now I will be wearing my mask inside. Outdoors I'll evaluate based on how crowded, etc. Supposedly 50% of my county has had at least one dose. The other 50% is in no way entirely composed of kids. I do not expect the unvaccinated to wear their masks indoors. I expect they will lie about their status. So to protect me and my family, I'm going to leave the mask on for now. I'd like to get my asthma doctor's take on it for me personally based on my issues. My next appointment isn't until late June. Have you found that the mask requirement helped your chronic infections/allergies? I know that since most of us have not been as exposed this past year, your chances of picking up something are less, but have they helped you any? Yes to wearing a mask to reduce allergy symptoms! I have nasty allergy issues every Fall, and probably because my mask is always on once I leave my car, I was stunned to get through Fall 2020 with none of the normal misery. I plan to mask up this Fall too, even if everyone else is "unmasked" by then, just to see if I can have 2 great allergy seasons in a row. (For the record, even though everyone at my house is vaccinated, we still wear masks in public right now.)
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Post by NastyWoman on May 19, 2021 14:47:26 GMT -5
So things are about to get very interesting right now in my county. We moved into the yellow (least restrictive) zone. And that means that many businesses may have more people on their premises. Our mask requirements will stay in place per state mandate until at least mid June. So what is going to cause an uproar you may wonder? County mandate is that all businesses need to report within 2 weeks what the vaccination status is for their work force. Based on their answer they will have more/less restrictions. Preliminary howling is already being heard. HIPAA (not applicable) and privacy laws are being bandied about. Unfortunately for the howlers the latter laws have exceptions for public health concerns. Let the lawsuit begin....
Current county statistics:positivity rate 0.6 and falling; 71.8% of all people over 12yo have had at least one shot and 56.4% are fully vaxxed. The latter number is 67.5% for the over 50 group and 70.4% for the over 65 cohort and 80% for 50 and up had their first shot. So not bad over all but it could be better
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Post by saveinla on May 19, 2021 15:03:59 GMT -5
NastyWoman - You have the best vaccination rate in the state I believe.
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Post by stillmovingforward on May 19, 2021 15:10:46 GMT -5
I'm vaccinated but I'll keep wearing my mask in crowded areas and indoors. No one knows how well the vaccine worked and I'm not taking any chances. Besides, I love curbside pickup now!
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Post by jerseygirl on May 19, 2021 15:14:58 GMT -5
Vaccinated but NJ governor says keep the masks on for now - month?? Here in north jersey always have seen very good compliance with masks in stores
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on May 19, 2021 17:35:29 GMT -5
I'm stalking the Hyvee parking lot right now (really just waiting to get Carrot and they have Wifi). Looks like people have mostly abandoned the masks. DS's college sent an email out that they were no longer required on campus as well. Not that many are there anymore at this point.
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Post by debthaven on May 19, 2021 17:38:07 GMT -5
pulmonarymd I'm so sorry about your dog. We're nearing that point with our pet bunny. I know he's a bunny and not a dog but it's still hard. He's 11.5 years old, which is VERY old for a bunny. Losing a beloved pet is always an immense loss. One of the reasons I worked so hard to get us fully vaccinated early is so we could go to the UK when our granddaughter is born (any minute!) We were devastated to learn that even vaccinated, we'd have to quarantine for 10 days. We were only planning to go for 4-5 days, and we haven't seen DH's family in 2 years, so we wanted to see them too. (ALL the adults have all been fully vaccinated. We'd only see the kids outside.) Today the EU decided to let fully-vaccinated tourists into the EU ... except for UK citizens. Partly because the UK is no longer officially Europe, but mainly because the UK is refusing to let fully-vaccinated EU citizens in. The EU said they would allow fully-vaccinated UK citizens in ONLY IF/WHEN the UK backs down and agrees to allow fully-vaccinated Europeans in. Every EU country's economy is in the toilet now. They ALL want that summer tourism income. So I am FERVENTLY hoping that this (hopefully temporary) stand-off moves things forward, and that the UK soon changes their rules so we can go there! (To be clear, this is NOT meant to be a political discussion. I'm just explaining why I'm finally hopeful that we can meet our new granddaughter soon, either once she arrives or very soon after!)
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2021 17:52:59 GMT -5
One of the reasons I worked so hard to get us fully vaccinated early is so we could go to the UK when our granddaughter is born (any minute!) We were devastated to learn that even vaccinated, we'd have to quarantine for 10 days. We were only planning to go for 4-5 days, and we haven't seen DH's family in 2 years, so we wanted to see them too. (ALL the adults have all been fully vaccinated. We'd only see the kids outside.) Yeah the UK was being vague about the rules, their classifications of countries into Red, Yellow and Green, and the possibility of the classifications changing. I was supposed to leave on a tour of E. Europe June 26, flying through London both ways, staying overnight on the way over. It was just too big a chance to take and I moved the trip to August, 2022. I'm sorry you'll miss out on seeing family- that's more important than playing Tourist.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 19, 2021 17:56:57 GMT -5
I'm vaccinated but I'll keep wearing my mask in crowded areas and indoors. No one knows how well the vaccine worked and I'm not taking any chances. Besides, I love curbside pickup now! This is my choice, too. At the car dealership today, very few masks even though the city's mandate to drop them didn't go in to effect until 5 PM. I do grocery pick up. The only people I saw going in and out of the store were all elderly and all masked. I will continue to mask up especially when I go to the land of Republicans over Memorial Day, who have made fun of masks and refused to wear them since the beginning.
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Post by debthaven on May 19, 2021 17:59:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry you'll miss out on seeing family- that's more important than playing Tourist.
For sure. We don't care about playing tourist AT ALL.
Two of our sons, our DDIL and our grandson and soon-to-arrive granddaughter are there, as well as DH's family. We just want to see them.
France is still on the amber (yellow) list, but I hope it goes to the green list soon!
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 19, 2021 18:00:03 GMT -5
pulmonarymd I'm so sorry about your dog. We're nearing that point with our pet bunny. I know he's a bunny and not a dog but it's still hard. He's 11.5 years old, which is VERY old for a bunny. Losing a beloved pet is always an immense loss. One of the reasons I worked so hard to get us fully vaccinated early is so we could go to the UK when our granddaughter is born (any minute!) We were devastated to learn that even vaccinated, we'd have to quarantine for 10 days. We were only planning to go for 4-5 days, and we haven't seen DH's family in 2 years, so we wanted to see them too. (ALL the adults have all been fully vaccinated. We'd only see the kids outside.) Today the EU decided to let fully-vaccinated tourists into the EU ... except for UK citizens. Partly because the UK is no longer officially Europe, but mainly because the UK is refusing to let fully-vaccinated EU citizens in. The EU said they would allow fully-vaccinated UK citizens in ONLY IF/WHEN the UK backs down and agrees to allow fully-vaccinated Europeans in. Every EU country's economy is in the toilet now. They ALL want that summer tourism income. So I am FERVENTLY hoping that this (hopefully temporary) stand-off moves things forward, and that the UK soon changes their rules so we can go there! (To be clear, this is NOT meant to be a political discussion. I'm just explaining why I'm finally hopeful that we can meet our new granddaughter soon, either once she arrives or very soon after!) I hope you can go to the UK soon. I am not a grandma but you know how badly I want to go to Canada. I'm fine with a 14 day quarantine, but I'm retired. DN1 and his wife are done with their quarantine on Friday at midnight. Like they said, the only thing they will be able to do is go outside for walks and one of them can pick up groceries instead of having them delivered. They just want lockdown to end.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 19, 2021 18:02:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry you'll miss out on seeing family- that's more important than playing Tourist.
For sure. We don't care about playing tourist AT ALL. Two of our sons, our DDIL and our grandson and soon-to-arrive granddaughter are there, as well as DH's family. We just want to see them. D1 is wondering if parts of Canada will try to open to tourism because they need the $$$, but he said if he were an American, he wouldn't go right now, at least to Toronto. He also said the US should not allow Canadians in without a 14 day quarantine because so many are not vaccinated. I don't want to play tourist either. I just want to see my family--like you.
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Post by debthaven on May 19, 2021 18:07:15 GMT -5
As you know TheOtherMe they offered for us to stay with them and quarantine there, but we don't think that's ideal with a newborn. We'd rather be VERY close by than IN their house. We'd be more than happy to help but DDIL's parents and sister are nearby, and she's VERY close to them. Hopefully things will change soon. Otherwise we'd probably go, but not right away. DS1 said (and DDIL agreed) that we'd be welcome the day after they get home from the hospital, or the following day. Having had 4 kids myself, I'm thinking, that's INCREDIBLY sweet, but NOOOOO ... LOL.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 19, 2021 18:13:07 GMT -5
I'm hoping to stay at an apartment in the same building.
My sister loved having my mom come and help with all 4 of her kids. I know you are the MIL, but if she needs help. My sister wouldn't have let her MIL around and MIL never offered. To her, kids were farm hands and she never cuddled any of the grandkids.
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Post by debthaven on May 19, 2021 18:17:47 GMT -5
M knows I'm available but she really is EXTREMELY close to her own parents. They are older than us so there are things we can still do that they can't do, which is why DS1/DDIL/E stayed with us for 5 weeks last spring after the first lockdown so they could keep working/finish school while we helped out with E.
But I know M well enough to know she'd FAR prefer her own mom there to me with a newborn. I fully understand and respect that. I am TERRIFIED of overstepping.
And DS1 and I have a good enough relationship that if ever they want or need us to stay there (rather than just to get around the quarantine), he'd tell us.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 19, 2021 18:26:01 GMT -5
NastyWoman - You have the best vaccination rate in the state I believe. We have also been quite good at sitting on our butts at home I believe LOL. But yes we are doing well - still not as good as I would like to see. This is nerd central and the belief in science is definitely higher here than elsewhere, but we will never get to something like 90% as I would like. ETA: SF is doing even better than we are but it is a relatively small county
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Post by Tiny on May 19, 2021 18:32:17 GMT -5
I'm guessing that if we don't see a resurgence in covid cases by the 2nd week of June - we probably are past the worst of the pandemic. I'm going to continue wearing a mask and avoiding places where I have to breathe other people's air atleast until the middle of June. I'll re-evaluate then.
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Post by debthaven on May 19, 2021 18:45:11 GMT -5
I am definitely still wearing my mask EVERYWHERE... and DEFINITELY at work (university).
The ONLY exception is when we hike in the forest during the week. There are few people on the trails during the week. But I still have my mask so I can put it on quickly whenever we cross anybody.
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Post by haapai on May 19, 2021 19:44:33 GMT -5
I'm guessing that if we don't see a resurgence in covid cases by the 2nd week of June - we probably are past the worst of the pandemic. I'm going to continue wearing a mask and avoiding places where I have to breathe other people's air atleast until the middle of June. I'll re-evaluate then. I want to keep my mask on for longer than that, but I don't know if I'll be able to hold up to the pressure. A part of wanting to hold onto my mask, despite pressure to drop it, is that I don't want to cause a stink when I start wearing it again. (I hope that you all understand that I am a month past my second shot as I type this.)
I think that the real test will come in the fall after schools reopen. I desperate do not want to be the person who suddenly wants to wear a mask at work after months of steadily falling new case and hospitalization numbers change trend.
The wisdom that I have been able to obtain regarding the role of elementary, high school, and even college/uni students in spreading contagious disease is wildly mixed, so I ain't trusting nobody except myself. When I was ten, twelve, fifteen, and twenty, the start of the academic school year always meant that I was reacquainting myself with folks that I had not had contact with (even indirectly) for months.
I want to hold onto my mask and distancing until Halloween.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 19, 2021 20:06:09 GMT -5
My dad is finally vaccinated they offered the J&J at a local grocery store pharmacy.
That leaves my great uncle and my grandmother both of whom refuse to get it because they don't trust it.
The two oldest and most at risk. Seriously?
My great uncle claims a nurse is coming on Friday to give them a flu shot. No...flu shots aren't in May.
So my parents are trying to figure out WTF is going on.
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Post by jerseygirl on May 19, 2021 20:29:05 GMT -5
My dad is finally vaccinated they offered the J&J at a local grocery store pharmacy. That leaves my great uncle and my grandmother both of whom refuse to get it because they don't trust it. The two oldest and most at risk. Seriously? My great uncle claims a nurse is coming on Friday to give them a flu shot. No...flu shots aren't in May. So my parents are trying to figure out WTF is going on. Maybe it’s really a Covid vaccine, not flu shot
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