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Post by haapai on May 18, 2021 10:00:41 GMT -5
Yes, that’s why she was opposed. She actually works in Infectious Disease. DS has it but DD will not. Her fiancé was forced to get it or he couldn’t fly. I think she chose the wrong profession. One of us should break down and explain to PMD what you just did there. It was kinda cool.
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Post by haapai on May 18, 2021 10:12:49 GMT -5
Okay, I'll do it.
MPL trained as a nurse but left the field almost immediately. I can't remember how much she sank into tuition or what kind of loans she took on or exactly why she left.
I am positive that her post was making fun of herself. I don't believe for a second that she was trying to point out that she faced a similar moral and ethical dilemma and did the right thing. She's too good of a person to do that. (I'm not being sarcastic here.)
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on May 18, 2021 10:17:22 GMT -5
Okay, I'll do it.
MPL trained as a nurse but left the field almost immediately. I can't remember how much she sank into tuition or what kind of loans she took on or exactly why she left.
I am positive that her post was making fun of herself. I don't believe for a second that she was trying to point out that she faced a similar moral and ethical dilemma and did the right thing. She's too good of a person to do that. (I'm not being sarcastic here.) No. I wasn't even thinking about that nursing stint some 16 years ago. I just think a career in infectious disease while being anti-vaccine doesn't make much sense.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 18, 2021 10:18:18 GMT -5
Okay, I'll do it.
MPL trained as a nurse but left the field almost immediately. I can't remember how much she sank into tuition or what kind of loans she took on or exactly why she left.
I am positive that her post was making fun of herself. I don't believe for a second that she was trying to point out that she faced a similar moral and ethical dilemma and did the right thing. She's too good of a person to do that. (I'm not being sarcastic here.) I didn't respond to MPL. Zibazinski's daughter is the one working in Infectious Disease, and what I responded to. MPL appears to be a rational person with a reasonable understanding of science, and has not made any posts to suggest she is against this vaccine.
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Post by haapai on May 18, 2021 10:19:07 GMT -5
You are too modest.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 12:27:10 GMT -5
I called to see if our vet is allowing humans to accompany their pets inside yet and she said no, but they are discussing it. She added, "as many of our staff as are going to be vaccinated, have received their second dose". Obviously I don't know who is unvaccinated at the clinic, but I'm not happy about it. Both domestic cats and dogs have contracted Covid-19 from humans.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 18, 2021 12:32:35 GMT -5
I called to see if our vet is allowing humans to accompany their pets inside yet and she said no, but they are discussing it. She added, "as many of our staff as are going to be vaccinated, have received their second dose". Obviously I don't know who is unvaccinated at the clinic, but I'm not happy about it. Both domestic cats and dogs have contracted Covid-19 from humans. We had to euthanize our dog last week. They are not letting anyone inside. They agreed to do it outside with one person there. Luckily it was a nice day. Made a difficult decision harder. They tried to explain it as a COVID risk to me, who has been seeing patients in person since last April. I was not amused. They also said that not everyone was vaccinated. Sorry, but that is their choice. Since things are opening up here and the mask mandate is relaxing, they should have already had plans as to how things will work going forward
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 18, 2021 12:34:42 GMT -5
I called to see if our vet is allowing humans to accompany their pets inside yet and she said no, but they are discussing it. She added, "as many of our staff as are going to be vaccinated, have received their second dose". Obviously I don't know who is unvaccinated at the clinic, but I'm not happy about it. Both domestic cats and dogs have contracted Covid-19 from humans. I have no idea what our vet is doing these days. I guess I’ll find out next week as I have an appointment for both.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 12:38:18 GMT -5
I called to see if our vet is allowing humans to accompany their pets inside yet and she said no, but they are discussing it. She added, "as many of our staff as are going to be vaccinated, have received their second dose". Obviously I don't know who is unvaccinated at the clinic, but I'm not happy about it. Both domestic cats and dogs have contracted Covid-19 from humans. We had to euthanize our dog last week. They are not letting anyone inside. They agreed to do it outside with one person there. Luckily it was a nice day. Made a difficult decision harder. They tried to explain it as a COVID risk to me, who has been seeing patients in person since last April. I was not amused. They also said that not everyone was vaccinated. Sorry, but that is their choice. Since things are opening up here and the mask mandate is relaxing, they should have already had plans as to how things will work going forward I'm so sorry about your dog. We're in a double-bind because our cat's vaccinations will be due at the end of June, our pet sitter won't come if he's not up-to-date on his shots (she's ethical and a smart businesswoman), and we're starting to book travel.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on May 18, 2021 12:39:29 GMT -5
Our vet clinic opened back up on the 12th. You have to wear masks inside and they are limiting it to two clients per pet. Sorry about your dog pulmonarymd.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 18, 2021 12:57:02 GMT -5
Thanks for your thoughts. He was such a good dog, a gentle giant. 100 lb golden. Never did anything wrong, mellow. Fit in perfectly the moment we got him as a 3 yo rescue. Never understood how anybody could have let him go. It just leaves such a void. He and I walked 2 miles every morning. I am trying to figure out my new morning routine. I just miss him.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 18, 2021 13:02:48 GMT -5
The hair salon I started using is asking clients to wear your mask until you are seated in the stylists chair and if you are up and about moving around the salon. The stylists will still be masked. I believe they have a fairly large percentage of older clients maybe 30%.
The spa I use for massages is keeping the mask rule for now. They have some staff still waiting for a second dose or the two week wait period. I believe they will probably drop it once all staff are fully vaccinated.
If you weren't in a priority group in my state, you are most likely not fully vaccinated yet. It was mid April before it was opened to everyone.
Today is the two weeks past my second dose. Some states did better than others but I would be waiting another month or so before assuming people aren't vaccinated because they choose not to be.
Sorry to hear about the dog pulmonarymd.
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Post by steph08 on May 18, 2021 13:03:02 GMT -5
I called to see if our vet is allowing humans to accompany their pets inside yet and she said no, but they are discussing it. She added, "as many of our staff as are going to be vaccinated, have received their second dose". Obviously I don't know who is unvaccinated at the clinic, but I'm not happy about it. Both domestic cats and dogs have contracted Covid-19 from humans. We had to euthanize our dog last week. They are not letting anyone inside. They agreed to do it outside with one person there. Luckily it was a nice day. Made a difficult decision harder. They tried to explain it as a COVID risk to me, who has been seeing patients in person since last April. I was not amused. They also said that not everyone was vaccinated. Sorry, but that is their choice. Since things are opening up here and the mask mandate is relaxing, they should have already had plans as to how things will work going forward I'm so sorry about your dog. We had to put our 12yo boxer down in October, and while we had to wait in the car prior to the appointment, I was allowed inside with him. I think our vet's office is finally allowing people to wait inside instead of in the car, but I don't really mind staying in the car because some people are not great pet owners.
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Post by Spellbound454 on May 18, 2021 13:06:34 GMT -5
On the Indian variant......We have got 6 people in hospital who have had one dose of vaccine and one frail person who has had two doses. All the rest are unvaccinated people, who were eligible but chose not to be vaccinated..... (some now in ICU) If that doesn't tell you to get off your arse and go for a jab.... what does? Still watching and waiting to see what happens...... Government seems a bit nervous until we get more clarity. Our pathway to opening up could be delayed. Wait a moment. I'm completely willing to accept the first clause bolded - "All the rest are unvaccinated people" but my eyes cross and my head hurts when I read the second part -"who were eligible but choose not to be vaccinated."
Hasn't the UK been restricting the vaccine much more stringently than the US? Not all adults have been eligible -- just those over the age of 35(ish) or medically vulnerable. Are you sure that every single one of "the rest" is either old enough to have gotten at least one jab or has a condition that would have made them eligible?
And how many are there in hospital?
People over 37, vulnerable groups and healthcare workers have been vaccinated ..... those who are in hospital are older.... (or that's the way I understood it) and will have received their invitation.
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Post by finnime on May 18, 2021 13:13:36 GMT -5
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 18, 2021 13:20:22 GMT -5
I called to see if our vet is allowing humans to accompany their pets inside yet and she said no, but they are discussing it. She added, "as many of our staff as are going to be vaccinated, have received their second dose". Obviously I don't know who is unvaccinated at the clinic, but I'm not happy about it. Both domestic cats and dogs have contracted Covid-19 from humans. We had to euthanize our dog last week. They are not letting anyone inside. They agreed to do it outside with one person there. Luckily it was a nice day. Made a difficult decision harder. They tried to explain it as a COVID risk to me, who has been seeing patients in person since last April. I was not amused. They also said that not everyone was vaccinated. Sorry, but that is their choice. Since things are opening up here and the mask mandate is relaxing, they should have already had plans as to how things will work going forward I’m sorry....this is always heartbreaking and I have never not been with any of my pets on their last journey. I have no idea what my vet’s status is these days, but like @donethat we are scheduling travel and the problem kids need to be caught up. They were due 6 months ago, but it wasn’t critical then so wasn’t about to push it.
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Post by Spellbound454 on May 18, 2021 13:23:00 GMT -5
I changed Vets last year because my dog was due his jabs in March and by July, I still couldn't get an appointment. At the new Vets, you stay in the car and when your name is called you go to inside and they are behind screens............ Its the way it has to be, for now. At least its functioning.
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Post by chiver78 on May 18, 2021 13:24:22 GMT -5
Thanks for your thoughts. He was such a good dog, a gentle giant. 100 lb golden. Never did anything wrong, mellow. Fit in perfectly the moment we got him as a 3 yo rescue. Never understood how anybody could have let him go. It just leaves such a void. He and I walked 2 miles every morning. I am trying to figure out my new morning routine. I just miss him. I definitely just choke hugged my 6yo golden girl, also a gentle giant at ~90lbs. I am so sorry for your loss.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 18, 2021 13:59:51 GMT -5
We had to euthanize our dog last week. They are not letting anyone inside. They agreed to do it outside with one person there. Luckily it was a nice day. Made a difficult decision harder. They tried to explain it as a COVID risk to me, who has been seeing patients in person since last April. I was not amused. They also said that not everyone was vaccinated. Sorry, but that is their choice. Since things are opening up here and the mask mandate is relaxing, they should have already had plans as to how things will work going forward I’m sorry....this is always heartbreaking and I have never not been with any of my pets on their last journey. I have no idea what my vet’s status is these days, but like @donethat we are scheduling travel and the problem kids need to be caught up. They were due 6 months ago, but it wasn’t critical then so wasn’t about to push it. Up until this one, I had always been with them. 4 dogs, 2 cats.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 18, 2021 14:01:10 GMT -5
Thanks for your thoughts. He was such a good dog, a gentle giant. 100 lb golden. Never did anything wrong, mellow. Fit in perfectly the moment we got him as a 3 yo rescue. Never understood how anybody could have let him go. It just leaves such a void. He and I walked 2 miles every morning. I am trying to figure out my new morning routine. I just miss him. I definitely just choke hugged my 6yo golden girl, also a gentle giant at ~90lbs. I am so sorry for your loss. Thanks, they are such great dogs, goldens. Too bad they leave us too soon. This one was so smart and as I said, fit in from day one and never did anything wrong. He was the best.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 15:24:40 GMT -5
Well, everything is bigger in Texas, including stupidity at the state house! Today, "Texas Governor Greg Abbott issued an executive order prohibiting governmental entities in Texas, including counties, cities, school districts, public health authorities, or government officials, from requiring or mandating mask wearing."
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 18, 2021 15:39:13 GMT -5
When I had to put Lucy down last summer, I was not allowed to go in for anything--from diagnosis to euthanasia. I do think that is a large part of why it has hurt so much more than the others that went before.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 17:39:20 GMT -5
When I had to put Lucy down last summer, I was not allowed to go in for anything--from diagnosis to euthanasia. I do think that is a large part of why it has hurt so much more than the others that went before. I was 100% good about the "no humans rule" for the last year which protected staff, clients, and owners, even though it caused trauma to my cat. I'm really not cool with the "those who choose to vaccinate have been" crap now. I would change vets but the others would probably be even less honest about their vaccine status. It's still an option I'm seriously considering because I don't give a damn if they are vaccinated, as long as we can go in with our fur baby. We are vaccinated and we will mask up! His last lonely visit was so bad that I'm afraid that a very human-oriented cat has now been turned off to people forever. I've been with every animal I've euthanized, and some other people's when their human couldn't handle it, so I do understand how tough it was for you.
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2021 18:28:10 GMT -5
Why was she opposed? Doesn't she work in healthcare?
Yes, that’s why she was opposed. She actually works in Infectious Disease. DS has it but DD will not. Her fiancé was forced to get it or he couldn’t fly. I want a better explanation. She's not opposed because she works in healthcare. I work in healthcare. Now I have had coworkers and visitors opposed for various reasons. Some said well I got Covid and I survived this long so I'm not going to get the vaccine. Some did not get it because it was too soon and did not want to be in the first wave of getting it. Roughly a third of Americans are vaccinated so too soon should be off the table. One of my coworkers who wanted to wait, just recently got shot one on his own. A coworker who had Covid just got the J&J shot.
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2021 18:47:24 GMT -5
I called to see if our vet is allowing humans to accompany their pets inside yet and she said no, but they are discussing it. She added, "as many of our staff as are going to be vaccinated, have received their second dose". Obviously I don't know who is unvaccinated at the clinic, but I'm not happy about it. Both domestic cats and dogs have contracted Covid-19 from humans. We had to euthanize our dog last week. They are not letting anyone inside. They agreed to do it outside with one person there. Luckily it was a nice day. Made a difficult decision harder. They tried to explain it as a COVID risk to me, who has been seeing patients in person since last April. I was not amused. They also said that not everyone was vaccinated. Sorry, but that is their choice. Since things are opening up here and the mask mandate is relaxing, they should have already had plans as to how things will work going forward I am so sorry to hear about your dog and having to settle for an outside departure with only one loved one. How old was your dog? Its annoying to deal with certain businesses after suffering on the front line isn't it? My annoyances are more pushy unrealistic visitors over businesses and libraries. Although I still can't try on clothes at Marshall's and my library still believes they are going to catch Covid from books and CDs I have more and more demanding visitors who think they are entitled to in person visits with their loved one on demand, Because they are vaccinated and of course masking requirements are dropped elsewhere, etc. etc.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 18, 2021 19:22:19 GMT -5
We had to euthanize our dog last week. They are not letting anyone inside. They agreed to do it outside with one person there. Luckily it was a nice day. Made a difficult decision harder. They tried to explain it as a COVID risk to me, who has been seeing patients in person since last April. I was not amused. They also said that not everyone was vaccinated. Sorry, but that is their choice. Since things are opening up here and the mask mandate is relaxing, they should have already had plans as to how things will work going forward I am so sorry to hear about your dog and having to settle for an outside departure with only one loved one. How old was your dog? Its annoying to deal with certain businesses after suffering on the front line isn't it? My annoyances are more pushy unrealistic visitors over businesses and libraries. Although I still can't try on clothes at Marshall's and my library still believes they are going to catch Covid from books and CDs I have more and more demanding visitors who think they are entitled to in person visits with their loved one on demand, Because they are vaccinated and of course masking requirements are dropped elsewhere, etc. etc. He was a rescue. We had him 6 years. They estimated he was 3 when we got him. Died too soon. When I was on the phone with them, I told them I was going to get off the phone and go into a room with a patient acutely ill with Covid, so I had very little sympathy for their position
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Post by teen persuasion on May 18, 2021 20:27:55 GMT -5
Today is school budget voting in my state. Stopped by the HS (DS5 attends) to vote on my way home from work. No voters at all, just the 5 or 6 ladies sitting behind the table (elbow to elbow). One of them pointedly pulled her mask up from under her chin, several minutes AFTER I entered the room. Our state mask restrictions don't go out the window until tomorrow, lady. And masks are still required at schools! Coworker said her DH had 1 G8 student today - rest are out quarantining apparently.
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Post by azucena on May 19, 2021 5:06:13 GMT -5
StL lifted mask mandate this week. Church elders voted last night to follow suit. They will split off a section for social distancing. No thank you; our 4 weeks back were a nice glimpse into normalcy but now I'm back to feeling like a second class citizen bc I have kids.
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Post by Opti on May 19, 2021 5:55:09 GMT -5
StL lifted mask mandate this week. Church elders voted last night to follow suit. They will split off a section for social distancing. No thank you; our 4 weeks back were a nice glimpse into normalcy but now I'm back to feeling like a second class citizen bc I have kids.I'm confused by this statement. There are people like Tucker Carlson making money ranting on how masks on kids is child abuse. The under 4 set rarely keeps their mask on if they even have one.
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Post by azucena on May 19, 2021 6:18:05 GMT -5
My kids are 8 and 12 so only the older one can be vaccinated with an appt set for this weekend in case she needs a day to recover.
I don't feel like we can safely attend church without others masking. Is it too much to ask for an hour per week from other people to help protect our kids who would have to bear the brunt of covid long hauler symptoms if they do end up with an extreme case. I know that's rare. Just tired of processing it all.
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