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Post by busymom on Apr 30, 2021 17:40:20 GMT -5
Well sh#t! I just found out my next door neighbors had Covid. The entire family. Frankly, I'm not surprised, since their kids have playmates over there all of the time, but still... It turns out Mom was the sickest, and was on bedrest for a couple of weeks, but no one from the family ended up in the hospital.
I did find out none of them had been vaccinated. And, they're not sure who brought Covid home to the family.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 30, 2021 17:47:03 GMT -5
I get my second tomorrow. My GF got hers in February, and is already talking about getting a booster this summer so she can travel more safely. Are booster shots available? If so, where did you learn about this as I have not heard this. Not that I am aware of yet. She was reading where boosters may be necessary so is trying to plan ahead. Yes, she has always been a bit "extreme" on all of this, in my opinion.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 30, 2021 18:07:14 GMT -5
Yay, my 2 youngest boys are vaccinated - just got their seconds shots! DS5 is currently in school 2 days a week, but learned a few of his buddies are doing 4 days a week (an option if you need it academically). He'd kind of like to go to 4 days, ...so he and buddies can spend more time in the fitness room (which they just learned they have access to, if they sign up for Track-done). I don't think so, bud - there's been a spate of positive cases in the ES and MS since they both went 4 days after Spring break. We are definitely shifting to loosening restrictions. At work we are dropping quarantining items from 3 days to 1 day, dropping the temp taking. We've already gradually dropped the time limits on computer use - people stay for hours. We've been back to full hours since the fall, but other libraries in the system were informed they must go back to at least minimum hours to meet state compliance. Some were frantic - they can't staff enough hours (no idea why, budget, or lost staff ). I see the HS Prom is a go for June this year. I'm beginning to see more people maskless in stores, now. Grocery store at 9 am, one young guy w/o mask (but his buddy had a gaiter on, at least). Drug store at 10 am (busy for vaccinations), everyone had a mask. Guess it depends on the crowd. In regards to staffing, I have been hearing first hand from a lot of people who say they can't find people to work as things are opening back up. People are making more money with the extra unemployment. Maybe your friends shouldn't pay their employees such shitty wages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 18:07:52 GMT -5
I'm going to delay our senior kitty's annual wellness visit and vaccines until our vet hospital allows clients to enter with their pets. They say that will be when all staff who wish to be vaccinated are, and I have a little bit (more than a little bit) of an issue with that caveat. Our cat was totally traumatized by his last visit without his human family, and they were unable to actually examine him so I paid a crap ton for a diagnosis based on my verbal description of observed symptoms. Fortunately, the diagnosis was accurate and he recovered. Why would I take him in for a physical exam they can't actually accomplish without us present? No blood draw, no metabolic panel, no vaccines administered-ain't paying hundreds for that! He's totally indoor so other than being 17 years of age, he's not at risk of anything. This is going to be an issue for us. Both animals had appointments Dec 2019 when we boarded them before we left for South America. Both are due for vaccinations when we need to board them. I have no idea how the vet is handling vet appointments now. I'm waiting to see how our pet sitter is handling things. So far, she's been unwilling to go into a house if the owners were present. Given the human/animal connection of transmissibility, I'm not sure what she will do but I suspect she will require that the pet's owners be fully vaccinated. Her biggest moral and legal concern in carrying Covid-19 from one pet to another during daily rounds. Customarily, she has required all pets be fully vaccinated, but that may shift a bit.
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Post by NastyWoman on Apr 30, 2021 21:21:19 GMT -5
Are booster shots available? If so, where did you learn about this as I have not heard this. No, boosters are not yet available, recommended, or required. It is being discussed, and the vaccine manufacturers are working on vaccines against variants s. Like everything with the virus, we are in a learning phase I have said many times that once a vaccine was available p, and it was my turn, I would be there front of the line and I was. However, until they conclude that the vaccinated should (as in need) get a booster shot it is my firm belief that all production capacity should be used to get the other 7billion plus people vaccinated. When a booster shot is deemed necessary look for me to the front of the line. I'll be the one with bells on at that time - but not before...
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Post by movingforward on May 1, 2021 7:47:51 GMT -5
In regards to staffing, I have been hearing first hand from a lot of people who say they can't find people to work as things are opening back up. People are making more money with the extra unemployment. Maybe your friends shouldn't pay their employees such shitty wages. I'm not really sure what your idea of shitty wages are...most pay well for low level work but the extra unemployment makes sitting at home look a whole lot more enticing.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 1, 2021 7:58:18 GMT -5
Whoa! 2nd Moderna packed a whollop! Headache, fever, chills, and I vomited early this morning. It is all good now I think except for the raging headache.
DH had pfizer and both of his didn’t affect him except his shot arm felt weird.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on May 1, 2021 9:09:29 GMT -5
In regards to staffing, I have been hearing first hand from a lot of people who say they can't find people to work as things are opening back up. People are making more money with the extra unemployment. Maybe your friends shouldn't pay their employees such shitty wages. It doesn't have to be shitty wages. I know compared to some on here I don't make much, but I'm sitting pretty much right smack dab on the median income for the US at $20/hour. People around here can buy houses and raise kids on that. My gross wages are $800/week. Unemployment was $1080/week. That was back when the bonus checks were $600...I think they're $400 now, but even so. I'd happily take HALF what I make to sit home for 6 months to a year than work for the full amount if it was offered. Not everyone can afford to do that, but when you start factoring all the people that have to pay for childcare to work or who don't really need the money, like students just working to cover their car insurance and cell phone bills, there's a lot of people that are happy to get paid the lower wage for not working.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 1, 2021 11:34:53 GMT -5
newest data shows 30% in my zipcode fully vaccinated. I'm getting pfizer#2 in a few hours. Hope I can have a nice evening before any ill effects come into play.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 1, 2021 13:05:42 GMT -5
Yay, my 2 youngest boys are vaccinated - just got their seconds shots! DS5 is currently in school 2 days a week, but learned a few of his buddies are doing 4 days a week (an option if you need it academically). He'd kind of like to go to 4 days, ...so he and buddies can spend more time in the fitness room (which they just learned they have access to, if they sign up for Track-done). I don't think so, bud - there's been a spate of positive cases in the ES and MS since they both went 4 days after Spring break. We are definitely shifting to loosening restrictions. At work we are dropping quarantining items from 3 days to 1 day, dropping the temp taking. We've already gradually dropped the time limits on computer use - people stay for hours. We've been back to full hours since the fall, but other libraries in the system were informed they must go back to at least minimum hours to meet state compliance. Some were frantic - they can't staff enough hours (no idea why, budget, or lost staff ). I see the HS Prom is a go for June this year. I'm beginning to see more people maskless in stores, now. Grocery store at 9 am, one young guy w/o mask (but his buddy had a gaiter on, at least). Drug store at 10 am (busy for vaccinations), everyone had a mask. Guess it depends on the crowd. In regards to staffing, I have been hearing first hand from a lot of people who say they can't find people to work as things are opening back up. People are making more money with the extra unemployment. Food service around here are claiming this, but I'm also seeing signs advertising $15/hr at fast food places, so they are offering more. As for the libraries, I hadn't heard that anyone was laid off except for at headquarters. They are a unique situation - they don't have walk-in patrons, they are a library to the libraries (provide services to us), so their funding is primarily state $$ and the governor slashed their funding big-time last year when covid was decimating the state budget. So 4 positions were eliminated to cut the shortfall. Then they posted 3 very part-time positions (19 hours) at $17.17 (I was pissed - obviously they'd calculated that as a bare minimum hourly rate, yet it was quite a bit more than I make hourly, but less annually). Even with replacing some bodies, services are cut. But then the feds approved big aid to states, and the budget woes are history...but I don't think the funds have been restored. Sorry for the long winded detour - I haven't heard that any of the member libraries had laid off anyone. My library got PPP money and used it to pay us our regular income while shut down and even during reduced hours over the summer. PPP money was actually a bonus for our budget - full pay was already budgeted for, as we have a perpetual budget (minimum tax allocation annually). That's why I can't figure out why any staff might be on unemployment, or budgets might be short. Our locally based budgets insulated us from state budget cuts that really hurt HQ.
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Post by pooks on May 1, 2021 13:32:28 GMT -5
Yay, my 2 youngest boys are vaccinated - just got their seconds shots! DS5 is currently in school 2 days a week, but learned a few of his buddies are doing 4 days a week (an option if you need it academically). He'd kind of like to go to 4 days, ...so he and buddies can spend more time in the fitness room (which they just learned they have access to, if they sign up for Track-done). I don't think so, bud - there's been a spate of positive cases in the ES and MS since they both went 4 days after Spring break. We are definitely shifting to loosening restrictions. At work we are dropping quarantining items from 3 days to 1 day, dropping the temp taking. We've already gradually dropped the time limits on computer use - people stay for hours. We've been back to full hours since the fall, but other libraries in the system were informed they must go back to at least minimum hours to meet state compliance. Some were frantic - they can't staff enough hours (no idea why, budget, or lost staff ). I see the HS Prom is a go for June this year. I'm beginning to see more people maskless in stores, now. Grocery store at 9 am, one young guy w/o mask (but his buddy had a gaiter on, at least). Drug store at 10 am (busy for vaccinations), everyone had a mask. Guess it depends on the crowd. In regards to staffing, I have been hearing first hand from a lot of people who say they can't find people to work as things are opening back up. People are making more money with the extra unemployment. My city is having a pretty severe labor shortage. Help wanted signs everywhere, several Facebook posts begging for employees, stores cutting open hours because of lack of staff, and news articles written about specifics businesses. Our unemployment rate is 3.8%. I don't think our problem is the unemployment benefits, though many employers seem to think that. My guess is that people found other work and don't want to go back to the places with crap wages that laid off heavily during the shut downs.
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Post by billisonboard on May 1, 2021 14:37:15 GMT -5
Seems like the choices for why jobs are going unfilled are "Work, working conditions, work hours, total hours, quality of management, wages" or "Unemployment benefit rates are too high". Yeah, I am sure business people are going with the second one.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 1, 2021 18:08:24 GMT -5
In regards to staffing, I have been hearing first hand from a lot of people who say they can't find people to work as things are opening back up. People are making more money with the extra unemployment. Maybe your friends shouldn't pay their employees such shitty wages. I live in a LCOLA. The McDonalds near me had to close in the mornings because they can’t find people to work. They are offering $16/hr and still can’t find people to work. Sorry, we should not be paying so much on unemployment that they prefer to stay home. And this isn’t local to McD’s (I don’t eat there but there was a write up about it). Small businesses can’t find employees. Lots of people asking the small business owners to pay them cash so they don’t lose their unemployment. I believe our unemployment office should send each employee to the local businesses hiring. If they turn down the job, they are cut off immediately.
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Post by billisonboard on May 1, 2021 18:45:06 GMT -5
Maybe your friends shouldn't pay their employees such shitty wages. I live in a LCOLA. The McDonalds near me had to close in the mornings because they can’t find people to work. They are offering $16/hr and still can’t find people to work. Sorry, we should not be paying so much on unemployment that they prefer to stay home. And this isn’t local to McD’s (I don’t eat there but there was a write up about it). Small businesses can’t find employees. Lots of people asking the small business owners to pay them cash so they don’t lose their unemployment. I believe our unemployment office should send each employee to the local businesses hiring. If they turn down the job, they are cut off immediately. I am 64. My work experience is predominately teaching, outdoor education and for the last dozen years managing a camp. I have never worked retail. Never run a cash register nor handled cash. Helped with family style meals occasionally when my kitchen staff needed a hand. Same with running a dishwasher. Not sure my knees would survive day after day extended shifts on a hard floor. But yeah, "Would you like fries with that?"
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 1, 2021 19:08:36 GMT -5
I live in a LCOLA. The McDonalds near me had to close in the mornings because they can’t find people to work. They are offering $16/hr and still can’t find people to work. Sorry, we should not be paying so much on unemployment that they prefer to stay home. And this isn’t local to McD’s (I don’t eat there but there was a write up about it). Small businesses can’t find employees. Lots of people asking the small business owners to pay them cash so they don’t lose their unemployment. I believe our unemployment office should send each employee to the local businesses hiring. If they turn down the job, they are cut off immediately. I am 64. My work experience is predominately teaching, outdoor education and for the last dozen years managing a camp. I have never worked retail. Never run a cash register nor handled cash. Helped with family style meals occasionally when my kitchen staff needed a hand. Same with running a dishwasher. Not sure my knees would survive day after day extended shifts on a hard floor. But yeah, "Would you like fries with that?" As I said, it isn’t just McD’s. My daughter’s agency can’t get staff. Ive spoken with several day programs and they are all struggling to get staff. The company I retired from was having a hard time getting drivers. Daycares locally have had to close because they can’t get staff. No matter who you talk to, they can’t hire people because no one wants to work. The extra unemployment is allowing people to sit home and collect versus working I was using McD’s because rhyme said employers need to pay more. McD is paying $16/hr in a lcola and still can’t get people. I just looked up the unemployment rate in my county. It is 9.6% at March 31, 2021. That backs up the employees claims that people just don’t want to work
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 1, 2021 19:45:57 GMT -5
DHs company is having trouble too. We're talking $17-$20/hr full.time manufacturing jobs. With benefits, with retirement. These aren't shit jobs for the area.
It's to where they can't meet demand for product. I'm not sure the reason or the answer but I'm hard pressed to believe that in podunk Iowa it's because $18/hr is not a living wage.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 1, 2021 20:07:59 GMT -5
It's not just staffing, though. A local businessman who's vocal on Twitter and in newspaper articles had to layoff staff for a while - he can't get materials for his plastics business, due to the shortage in Texas after the storm a few months ago, despite a boom in orders. Automakers are cycling production off because of chip shortages, despite high car demand. Building materials are in short supply, slowing construction projects.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on May 1, 2021 20:26:05 GMT -5
I believe our unemployment office should send each employee to the local businesses hiring. If they turn down the job, they are cut off immediately. I am so sick of the stupid "check the box online" that says you looked for work and that being the only requirement. Meanwhile my company has 75 open reqs, I'm doing the work of 3 people and production is on mandatory OT not only weekends, but during the week too. There used to be a every 3rd weekend rotation for OT, now it's every other weekend and they have to do an extra 4 hours during each week as well. It's not hard work. It's electronics assembly, you can't ask for a more precisely climate controlled work environment because it needs to be for the product. You might end up standing occasionally, but most are sitting and chatting away while putting together their widgets, insurance is very good and practically free if you're single. Heck I was only paying 3K/year for family with a $500 deductible. Nobody should be unemployed in our county. If you are, you either want to be or have some serious blemishes.
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Post by Tiny on May 1, 2021 20:52:24 GMT -5
$16 dollars an hour - I'm guessing you don't get "full time" - so 30 hours a week? That's $480.00 * 4 is 1920 a month. Not sure what payroll taxes are on that - I'm gonna go with 15% so $288 - that's approximately $1632 a month - having to work your 30 hours based on what "shift" your boss gives you during a 7 day period. I'm guessing the newbies get the crappy hours until someone with more seniority quits.
So, how much does $1650 a month buy you in a LCOLA? I'm assuming cell phone service isn't much cheaper, nor is a the price of used car, or insurance, or the cost of gas, or food for that matter. Do apartments go for $800 or less?
I suspect another hinderance to getting a job is the drug test.
I've heard it's an issue for high paying white collar jobs as well.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 1, 2021 20:57:49 GMT -5
$16 dollars an hour - I'm guessing you don't get "full time" - so 30 hours a week? That's $480.00 * 4 is 1920 a month. Not sure what payroll taxes are on that - I'm gonna go with 15% so $288 - that's approximately $1632 a month - having to work your 30 hours based on what "shift" your boss gives you during a 7 day period. I'm guessing the newbies get the crappy hours until someone with more seniority quits. So, how much does $1650 a month buy you in a LCOLA? I'm assuming cell phone service isn't much cheaper, nor is a the price of used car, or insurance, or the cost of gas, or food for that matter. Do apartments go for $800 or less? I suspect another hinderance to getting a job is the drug test. I've heard it's an issue for high paying white collar jobs as well. As I said, it’s lcola. I have two apartments that are one bedroom that rent for $500 and that includes water. And like I said, I used McDonald’s as an example because that is bottom of the barrel as far as jobs go. Just about every place is hiring because no one wants to work. Why should they when the taxpayers are paying them so well to sit home.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 1, 2021 20:59:55 GMT -5
DHs company is having trouble too. We're talking $17-$20/hr full.time manufacturing jobs. With benefits, with retirement. These aren't shit jobs for the area. It's to where they can't meet demand for product. I'm not sure the reason or the answer but I'm hard pressed to believe that in podunk Iowa it's because $18/hr is not a living wage. I don’t live in podunk Iowa but our cost of living is probably similar. It’s crazy how people are so happy to enable the lazy. This is our new America.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 1, 2021 21:01:22 GMT -5
$16 dollars an hour - I'm guessing you don't get "full time" - so 30 hours a week? That's $480.00 * 4 is 1920 a month. Not sure what payroll taxes are on that - I'm gonna go with 15% so $288 - that's approximately $1632 a month - having to work your 30 hours based on what "shift" your boss gives you during a 7 day period. I'm guessing the newbies get the crappy hours until someone with more seniority quits. So, how much does $1650 a month buy you in a LCOLA? I'm assuming cell phone service isn't much cheaper, nor is a the price of used car, or insurance, or the cost of gas, or food for that matter. Do apartments go for $800 or less? I suspect another hinderance to getting a job is the drug test. I've heard it's an issue for high paying white collar jobs as well. I have a mortgage of $585 a month. A large portion of the houses here are in that price range. I can get an apartment for $600 and it's not a crime ridden area. Cell phone is $80 for two phones unlimited at Cricket. We do not have I phones. Both cars are 2012 insurance full coverage for both cars is $275 a month. $16 is doable for a single person here. They aren't living large but it's not poverty level like people on the coasts think. $18 hour is very good especially for work that doesn't require a degree. Yes it's 40 hours with benefits and retirement in the warehouse at my employer. Insurance is tiered based on salary. I pay less than $300 a month for a family of four. That's bonkers and yet they still can't find anyone. ETA I forgot my insurance rate includes life insurance on both of us and an umbrella policy. The actual car insurance part is cheaper. My car was $12k and his was $14k. Both under 100k miles.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 1, 2021 21:01:37 GMT -5
I believe our unemployment office should send each employee to the local businesses hiring. If they turn down the job, they are cut off immediately. I am so sick of the stupid "check the box online" that says you looked for work and that being the only requirement. Meanwhile my company has 75 open reqs, I'm doing the work of 3 people and production is on mandatory OT not only weekends, but during the week too. There used to be a every 3rd weekend rotation for OT, now it's every other weekend and they have to do an extra 4 hours during each week as well. It's not hard work. It's electronics assembly, you can't ask for a more precisely climate controlled work environment because it needs to be for the product. You might end up standing occasionally, but most are sitting and chatting away while putting together their widgets, insurance is very good and practically free if you're single. Heck I was only paying 3K/year for family with a $500 deductible. Nobody should be unemployed in our county. If you are, you either want to be or have some serious blemishes. Exactly. It’s disgusting that we are allowing this to happen. Everyone is hiring and can’t find employees yet my county has a 9.6% unemployment rate. And this is allowed. Ugh
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Post by movingforward on May 2, 2021 8:43:13 GMT -5
In regards to staffing, I have been hearing first hand from a lot of people who say they can't find people to work as things are opening back up. People are making more money with the extra unemployment. My city is having a pretty severe labor shortage. Help wanted signs everywhere, several Facebook posts begging for employees, stores cutting open hours because of lack of staff, and news articles written about specifics businesses. Our unemployment rate is 3.8%. I don't think our problem is the unemployment benefits, though many employers seem to think that. My guess is that people found other work and don't want to go back to the places with crap wages that laid off heavily during the shut downs. So during a world wide pandemic a bunch of unskilled people went out and found other jobs at a time when retail and restaurants were operating at 50%, airlines were drastically cutting people, hotels sat empty, no events of any kind were happening, bars were shutdown, etc.?
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on May 2, 2021 9:02:01 GMT -5
So, how much does $1650 a month buy you in a LCOLA? I'm assuming cell phone service isn't much cheaper, nor is a the price of used car, or insurance, or the cost of gas, or food for that matter. Do apartments go for $800 or less? You can easily get an apartment for under $800/month here. It's more like $500 for a one-bedroom or studio and there are a lot of places that rent by the bedroom because of the colleges so if you're a younger person that wouldn't mind that set up you're looking at $300/month all utilities included. Same deal with getting a 2 bedroom and a single roommate.
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Post by billisonboard on May 2, 2021 9:15:25 GMT -5
So perhaps it is time to rethink the whole thing. People aren't motivated to do crap work at "not living large but not poverty level wages". One solution is certainly to starve them into taking any job. Another would be to increase wages and benefits to whatever point that the jobs are filled. That would take resources away from middle and upper management but they would need to adjust. Could even mean they would be motivated to move into those now more desirable jobs.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on May 2, 2021 9:15:27 GMT -5
I am so oblivious. Is there anything I'm not supposed to do before my first shot? Wasn't there something about not taking painkillers?
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 2, 2021 9:33:39 GMT -5
So perhaps it is time to rethink the whole thing. People aren't motivated to do crap work at "not living large but not poverty level wages". One solution is certainly to starve them into taking any job. Another would be to increase wages and benefits to whatever point that the jobs are filled. That would take resources away from middle and upper management but they would need to adjust. Could even mean they would be motivated to move into those now more desirable jobs. The first thing we should do is stop paying people an insane amount to sit home. People are lazy by nature. I can assure that if I could make more sitting home than I could working, my butt would be home.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 2, 2021 9:46:42 GMT -5
So perhaps it is time to rethink the whole thing. People aren't motivated to do crap work at "not living large but not poverty level wages". One solution is certainly to starve them into taking any job. Another would be to increase wages and benefits to whatever point that the jobs are filled. That would take resources away from middle and upper management but they would need to adjust. Could even mean they would be motivated to move into those now more desirable jobs. So how do we decide that? DH and I were able to buy our house and have two kids with me making the apparently lowly wage of $17/he and he was making $10/hr. We had health insurance, retirement, paid for daycare and could go on vacation. What do we decide is a suitable wage/life? If I can afford all my needs and some of my wants at $16/he here is that unacceptable because I couldn't in New York? Who gets to decide what is I need/want? We can all agree on the basics like food and shelter. Transportation of some sort. Some of us throw in things like health insurance, daycare and college. But where from there? There is grinding poverty in the US and elsewhere. To me where it gets murky is when we get past that what do we decide people are owed and what wage fits that? $350k here buys you a Mcmansion. That buys you dirt elsewhere. Do I need to make a salary that affords that in Iowa because that's the bare minimum to break in on the coasts? I'm open to discussion but I'm not convinced $17/he here has suddenly been deemed a shit wage. Even with the extra $400 UE in Nebraska is such a PITA I can't see deciding it's better and holding out for more.
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movingforward
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Post by movingforward on May 2, 2021 9:56:12 GMT -5
I am so oblivious. Is there anything I'm not supposed to do before my first shot? Wasn't there something about not taking painkillers? Correct. No OTC painkillers. You can take them afterwards if needed.
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