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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 12:20:00 GMT -5
Covid finally caught DH. He had somehow avoided it, until the end of Sept. He was double vaxed and boosted last Nov. We planned to get a second booster when we returned from vacation, but DH caught it on the way home. He was sick 2 weeks, DD and I didn't catch it from him. I scheduled boosters for right before Thanksgiving, not sure why they are scheduling so far out.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 25, 2022 14:08:55 GMT -5
Covid finally caught DH. He had somehow avoided it, until the end of Sept. He was double vaxed and boosted last Nov. We planned to get a second booster when we returned from vacation, but DH caught it on the way home. He was sick 2 weeks, DD and I didn't catch it from him. I scheduled boosters for right before Thanksgiving, not sure why they are scheduling so far out. I tried to get a booster (bivalent, third booster) with my healthcare provider. I almost went outside the system as they were booked out all the way to the end of the year. Finally found an appointment on 11/9 but I do have a ways to drive for it. There is a drawback to living in a place where most people take this seriously - harder to find appointments
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 25, 2022 15:45:07 GMT -5
Covid finally caught DH. He had somehow avoided it, until the end of Sept. He was double vaxed and boosted last Nov. We planned to get a second booster when we returned from vacation, but DH caught it on the way home. He was sick 2 weeks, DD and I didn't catch it from him. I scheduled boosters for right before Thanksgiving, not sure why they are scheduling so far out. I tried to get a booster (bivalent, third booster) with my healthcare provider. I almost went outside the system as they were booked out all the way to the end of the year. Finally found an appointment on 11/9 but I do have a ways to drive for it. There is a drawback to living in a place where most people take this seriously - harder to find appointments i am on the other side of that situation. I just walked into the local pharmacy and had a needle in my arm 20 minutes later.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 25, 2022 16:02:13 GMT -5
Well, what can I say. It would have been nice if this booster would have been easier to schedule. That said, despite the fact that we had (one of?) the first death(s) of Covid in the country here we have a below average number of people dying from the disease. And there is a lot to be said in favor of that IMO
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 25, 2022 17:02:19 GMT -5
I could walk in to any pharmacy and get the vaccine. It makes me want to scream.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 19:25:51 GMT -5
I could walk in to any pharmacy and get the vaccine. It makes me want to scream. Why? Just that it's an indication that people aren't interested in getting vaccinated? I was able to make a next-day appointment at a CVS. Got that done today with only a sore arm so far. Sigh. I am so DONE with vaccines. Ordinarily I let my immune system do its job, with great success, but in the last 2 years I've had 5 COVID, 2 Shingles and 2 flu shots. In each case I felt the risk of the disease was worse than the potential side effects. I skipped the flu vaccine for years and never got it. The last 2 years I git the vaccine because I didn't want to end up with a bad case of the flu in our overworked, under-staffed healthcare system.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 25, 2022 19:58:50 GMT -5
I believe in science and vaccines. People in this red state say covid is over. It is not over. People are still getting sick and dying.
I get a flu shot every year.
I got the Shingrix vaccine. I've had shingles. I do not want them again.
I got a pneumonia vaccine.
I don't regret a single vaccine I have ever gotten.
I wish a vaccine for mumps, measles and chicken pox had been available when I was young.
I had all three of those and the measles made both my sister and I very sick at the same time.
You do you and I disagree with your choices.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Oct 25, 2022 21:20:55 GMT -5
I could walk in to any pharmacy and get the vaccine. It makes me want to scream. Why does vaccine availability make you want to scream?
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Post by countrygirl2 on Oct 25, 2022 21:27:30 GMT -5
We have all had number 5.
DIL said each year they check on little guys vaccines, he never needs any. They gave him a ton of them when a baby. We have all worried about that. But as often as he gets sick, probably was a good thing.
We too have had flu, shingles, covid, and pneumonia vacs. I also didn't get the flu one as it made me very sick each time so I quit. But I started again after all this. This one this year made hubs and I both very tired and not feeling well for a day, after that we were fine.
I have had no reaction from the covid except a very sore arm from a couple of them.
We can pretty much walk into our local CVS and get any vaccine at any time.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 26, 2022 8:02:32 GMT -5
Because people here are not getting the vaccine.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Oct 26, 2022 8:09:08 GMT -5
We have a nasty flu like bug going round at the moment that is laying people up for a week or more......probably the same one as this.
Covid booster very slight aching arm... and that was it Flu jab, (3 days later) felt a bit hot last night so took a couple paracetamol..... and that was it.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Oct 26, 2022 8:20:21 GMT -5
Because people here are not getting the vaccine. Not saying that's not the case in your area, but I'm in a blue state in a county with an 80% vaccination rate and you can still walk into any CVS, Hyvee or Walgreens and get a flu or covid shot without an appointment. My son was able to get a next day appointment at Target by the university in Minneapolis. I'm not sure ease of availability necessarily means people aren't getting vaccinated.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Oct 26, 2022 8:27:45 GMT -5
This isn't like the early days of the vaccine. They have ramped up manufacturing. Plenty of people are vaccinated here and there is sufficient availability.
In 2020 it was important to try and avoid it. Now it's going to be like the flu. It's never going away. To think that you will never ever get a virus is crazy. I'm not going to keep living like it's 2020.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Oct 26, 2022 8:57:01 GMT -5
Plus everyone is on different schedules based on when they were previously vaccinated. My 12 year old just got the regular booster back in July. I'm not going to have him get the new one on top of that. For the first shots the only place you could get them here was the vaccine clinics that were set up in the park rec or the hospital and everyone needed them at once. Now you can get them anywhere and not everyone needs them like they did at first, and for those that do, it's only one shot instead of two.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 26, 2022 9:53:35 GMT -5
Because people here are not getting the vaccine. Not saying that's not the case in your area, but I'm in a blue state in a county with an 80% vaccination rate and you can still walk into any CVS, Hyvee or Walgreens and get a flu or covid shot without an appointment. My son was able to get a next day appointment at Target by the university in Minneapolis. I'm not sure ease of availability necessarily means people aren't getting vaccinated. Same here. And like Athena I am burned out. I also believe in science and vaccination but there was enough debate about whether or not someone my age needed a fourth shot I decided to wait to see if they would create a vaccine that would contain multiple strains instead, which they did. It hasn't even been a year since my third one. I am not sure it has even been six months yet I'd have to look at my card. The fact that I haven't had five shots doesn't mean I don't care about other people's health or don't agree with science. I made a decision based on information at the time regarding risk level and the fact that they were already working on a multi-strain vaccine. That I waited the handful of months between them finally deciding my age group needed the fourth and the fifth version coming out is not on the level of being an anti-vaxxer. I'm not going to live my life like it is 2020 anymore either. I am downgrading COVID to the same way I treat the flu. I am cool with if it ends up like the flu shot and I am even cool with getting the new version. I am done with getting stuck like a pig multiple times a year at this point.
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Post by daisylu on Oct 26, 2022 10:06:42 GMT -5
I believe in science and vaccines. People in this red state say covid is over. It is not over. People are still getting sick and dying.I get a flu shot every year. I got the Shingrix vaccine. I've had shingles. I do not want them again. I got a pneumonia vaccine. I don't regret a single vaccine I have ever gotten. I wish a vaccine for mumps, measles and chicken pox had been available when I was young. I had all three of those and the measles made both my sister and I very sick at the same time. You do you and I disagree with your choices. I can't remember the last time I heard them talk about Covid deaths or hospitalizations on the local news.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 26, 2022 10:26:55 GMT -5
Not saying that's not the case in your area, but I'm in a blue state in a county with an 80% vaccination rate and you can still walk into any CVS, Hyvee or Walgreens and get a flu or covid shot without an appointment. My son was able to get a next day appointment at Target by the university in Minneapolis. I'm not sure ease of availability necessarily means people aren't getting vaccinated. Same here. And like Athena I am burned out. I also believe in science and vaccination but there was enough debate about whether or not someone my age needed a fourth shot I decided to wait to see if they would create a vaccine that would contain multiple strains instead, which they did. It hasn't even been a year since my third one. I am not sure it has even been six months yet I'd have to look at my card. The fact that I haven't had five shots doesn't mean I don't care about other people's health or don't agree with science. I made a decision based on information at the time regarding risk level and the fact that they were already working on a multi-strain vaccine. That I waited the handful of months between them finally deciding my age group needed the fourth and the fifth version coming out is not on the level of being an anti-vaxxer. I'm not going to live my life like it is 2020 anymore either. I am downgrading COVID to the same way I treat the flu. I am cool with if it ends up like the flu shot and I am even cool with getting the new version. I am done with getting stuck like a pig multiple times a year at this point. I’m with you. I have chosen to vaccinate how it benefits me. We could not get boosted the first time until late last year, we were not eligible, due to age. As a result, we didn’t get boosted until we got back from our cruise, so in Jan. I plan on us getting the bivalent shot about 2 weeks before we get onto the World Cruise. I figure that we will be most protected while being exposed to the most people. The vaccine should confer the highest protection for the first 2 months. After this, then who knows? If Covid becomes a yearly vaccine like the flu, I’m ok with that.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 26, 2022 10:32:12 GMT -5
Same here. And like Athena I am burned out. I also believe in science and vaccination but there was enough debate about whether or not someone my age needed a fourth shot I decided to wait to see if they would create a vaccine that would contain multiple strains instead, which they did. It hasn't even been a year since my third one. I am not sure it has even been six months yet I'd have to look at my card. The fact that I haven't had five shots doesn't mean I don't care about other people's health or don't agree with science. I made a decision based on information at the time regarding risk level and the fact that they were already working on a multi-strain vaccine. That I waited the handful of months between them finally deciding my age group needed the fourth and the fifth version coming out is not on the level of being an anti-vaxxer. I'm not going to live my life like it is 2020 anymore either. I am downgrading COVID to the same way I treat the flu. I am cool with if it ends up like the flu shot and I am even cool with getting the new version. I am done with getting stuck like a pig multiple times a year at this point. I’m with you. I have chosen to vaccinate how it benefits me. We could not get boosted the first time until late last year, we were not eligible, due to age. As a result, we didn’t get boosted until we got back from our cruise, so in Jan. I plan on us getting the bivalent shot about 2 weeks before we get onto the World Cruise. I figure that we will be most protected while being exposed to the most people. The vaccine should confer the highest protection for the first 2 months. After this, then who knows? If Covid becomes a yearly vaccine like the flu, I’m ok with that. I was just discussing with DH about how there is a curve when it comes to immunity. After a certain point getting multiple jabs isn't doing anything. It isn't hurting anything but you are not really doing anything. I get we don't know what we don't know about COVID but that being said I am not concerned I skipped shot #4 to head to #5. I wasn't going to get that much more benefit out of having five of them at this point especially with #4 and #5 being so close together. It's also not going to stop people around me from getting it because it is becoming endemic. I am willing to do what I do in regards to the flu but vaccinating every couple months is not going to really do much at this point.
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Post by finnime on Oct 26, 2022 10:39:59 GMT -5
I didn't get the 4th shot but went right to the bivalent booster. I'm satisfied with that.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 26, 2022 10:49:15 GMT -5
I hate getting sick so I'm happy to get vaccinated. It really is pretty easy to do now. I was having issues getting all of us in, dh found an appt for everyone but it was a week out and the kids were out of school that day. But he found a drive up place for flu and covid and got in same day. I'm not living life around the vaccine schedule anymore, but not going to intentionally skip any.
I don't understand why you can't get the shingles vaccine until 50. Shingles suck and "young" people get it all the time. I'd love some protection against that.
It's rare to see anyone super sick from the flu these days and most people recover quickly even without a vaccine, but that's just luck. I don't want to realize mine ran out from a hospital bed. Or even just a week or two too sick to work.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 26, 2022 11:04:46 GMT -5
I hate getting sick so I'm happy to get vaccinated. It really is pretty easy to do now. I was having issues getting all of us in, dh found an appt for everyone but it was a week out and the kids were out of school that day. But he found a drive up place for flu and covid and got in same day. I'm not living life around the vaccine schedule anymore, but not going to intentionally skip any. I don't understand why you can't get the shingles vaccine until 50. Shingles suck and "young" people get it all the time. I'd love some protection against that. It's rare to see anyone super sick from the flu these days and most people recover quickly even without a vaccine, but that's just luck. I don't want to realize mine ran out from a hospital bed. They’ve actually lowered the age, it used to be 60. I tried to get it 10 years ago when I was 50, it would have cost me some big $$. I got a chicken pox vaccine for free instead. Same virus, different formulation and it likely provided a certain amount of protection.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 26, 2022 11:07:05 GMT -5
I hate getting sick so I'm happy to get vaccinated. It really is pretty easy to do now. I was having issues getting all of us in, dh found an appt for everyone but it was a week out and the kids were out of school that day. But he found a drive up place for flu and covid and got in same day. I'm not living life around the vaccine schedule anymore, but not going to intentionally skip any. I don't understand why you can't get the shingles vaccine until 50. Shingles suck and "young" people get it all the time. I'd love some protection against that. It's rare to see anyone super sick from the flu these days and most people recover quickly even without a vaccine, but that's just luck. I don't want to realize mine ran out from a hospital bed. They’ve actually lowered the age, it used to be 60. I tried to get it 10 years ago when I was 50, it would have cost me some big $$. I got a chicken pox vaccine for free instead. Same virus, different formulation and it likely provided a certain amount of protection. But why the age limit at all? Long term effects from shingles are terrible and I know way too many people who've had it, well under 50.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 26, 2022 11:07:16 GMT -5
I’m with you. I have chosen to vaccinate how it benefits me. We could not get boosted the first time until late last year, we were not eligible, due to age. As a result, we didn’t get boosted until we got back from our cruise, so in Jan. I plan on us getting the bivalent shot about 2 weeks before we get onto the World Cruise. I figure that we will be most protected while being exposed to the most people. The vaccine should confer the highest protection for the first 2 months. After this, then who knows? If Covid becomes a yearly vaccine like the flu, I’m ok with that. I was just discussing with DH about how there is a curve when it comes to immunity. After a certain point getting multiple jabs isn't doing anything. It isn't hurting anything but you are not really doing anything. I get we don't know what we don't know about COVID but that being said I am not concerned I skipped shot #4 to head to #5. I wasn't going to get that much more benefit out of having five of them at this point especially with #4 and #5 being so close together. It's also not going to stop people around me from getting it because it is becoming endemic. I am willing to do what I do in regards to the flu but vaccinating every couple months is not going to really do much at this point. We didn’t get #4. My elderly neighbors did, and that’s probably a good thing. If you are immunosuppressed or elderly, it’s probably better. I think the flu vaccine for the elderly includes 4x the amount of antigen that is in normal flu vaccines to help with this.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 26, 2022 11:11:28 GMT -5
They’ve actually lowered the age, it used to be 60. I tried to get it 10 years ago when I was 50, it would have cost me some big $$. I got a chicken pox vaccine for free instead. Same virus, different formulation and it likely provided a certain amount of protection. But why the age limit at all? Long term effects from shingles are terrible and I know way too many people who've had it, well under 50. There is very likely some sort of cost/risk calculations done. I know there was a period where the shingles vaccine was in low supply. For younger people, a chicken pox vaccine would likely confer enough protection and you can just go in and ask. I think the shingles vaccine contains an adjuvant, which can have some side effects.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Oct 26, 2022 11:25:08 GMT -5
But why the age limit at all? Long term effects from shingles are terrible and I know way too many people who've had it, well under 50. There is very likely some sort of cost/risk calculations done. I know there was a period where the shingles vaccine was in low supply. For younger people, a chicken pox vaccine would likely confer enough protection and you can just go in and ask. I think the shingles vaccine contains an adjuvant, which can have some side effects. They say it's not been sufficiently tested or approved for the under 50 group.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 11:32:17 GMT -5
But why the age limit at all? Long term effects from shingles are terrible and I know way too many people who've had it, well under 50. What scared me into getting the shingles immunization was not the TV commercials but listening to a classmate in my community college Geology class- she was in her 20s and said she had a shingles attack over the weekend that was so painful she was in tears. Ok, that was enough for me! I got the older version since it was 2014 As mich noted, the newer version required 2 shots X weeks apart and there were a ton of people on the Early Retirement Board who had managed to get one and ten were chasing all over town and getting put on waiting lists to get a second one in time. Then COVID hit. I finally got both Shingrx doses last year. I'd also be happy with one COVID booster a year. I know that in my age group the risk for a severe case is higher so I want to be as cautious as possible while still living my life.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 26, 2022 11:33:25 GMT -5
It is a cost benefit analysis. Risk of shingles increases with age. They know the risk of infection with age, and know the magnitude of benefit needed to be "cost effective" Without trials in a younger group, they will not recommend it because the magnitude of benefit needs to be so high.
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Post by tallguy on Oct 26, 2022 11:59:00 GMT -5
I didn't get the 4th shot but went right to the bivalent booster. I'm satisfied with that. Me too. If I am at home where I don't necessarily have (or can control) my exposure to others, I don't think I need it. If I go to Florida with my very socially-oriented GF, and am out in public a lot more with people who are perhaps less-inclined to be careful about things, I am more concerned. I time my boosters for October to be effective when I go to Florida for the winter in November. A year between boosters is fine for me.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 26, 2022 13:03:28 GMT -5
Covid deaths are not being reported by the CDC because they want you to think Covid is over.
In my county, for the last 7 weeks, there has been one reported Covid death per week and more hospitalizations each week.
The local news reports that about 8% of Iowans have received the latest vaccine and the local health care systems are very concerned about that.
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Post by chiver78 on Oct 26, 2022 14:54:54 GMT -5
please stop. the CDC still reports the COVID data linkmainstream media chooses not to cover it for whatever reason. place the blame where it's warranted.
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