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Post by Opti on Mar 9, 2023 19:35:28 GMT -5
The goal is to say ‘nothing but a normal tourist visit where a few people got a little rowdy but boys will be boys, no one needs to go to jail for it, democracy was certainly not under attack.’ It’s interesting to me that SCGal thinks that exaggerating the violence and intent of this attack could bring down democracy but Trump sowing mistrust in the election process by doggedly repeating the Big Lie in the face of 60 court cases that proved otherwise is NOT a huge threat to democracy. I think the goal is to wish it would just go away. I hope they keep showing the Republican party for what it has become. "Video shows a rioter — who has pleaded guilty to driving a stun gun into a police officer's neck, nearly killing him — smashing out Risch's window overlooking the Washington Monument and the national mall in an attempt to let more rioters into the building," reported Ryan J. Reilly and Sahil Kapur. "Additional video released this week shows Risch's trashed desk, including what looks like a framed campaign image bearing his last name." That rioter, Daniel Rodriguez, boasted openly to his friends that he "Tazzzzed the f**k out of the blue" and now faces a likely sentence of 7-10 years in prison. But Risch, who represents a state where Trump remains highly popular, didn't want to comment on the matter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-senator-refuses-to-discuss-new-footage-of-maga-rioters-smashing-up-his-office/ar-AA18pGZA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e6974149c4854338910ce9aa43b9e1f1&ei=44Thanks for posting this.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 10, 2023 10:37:27 GMT -5
i have been on a lot of tours. i don't recall window breaking being part of any of them.
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Post by swamp on Mar 10, 2023 12:24:42 GMT -5
i have been on a lot of tours. i don't recall window breaking being part of any of them. Imagine how much more fun tourism work be if you get to break stuff?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 11, 2023 0:20:01 GMT -5
i have been on a lot of tours. i don't recall window breaking being part of any of them. Imagine how much more fun tourism work be if you get to break stuff? hadn't thought of that.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 25, 2023 10:46:11 GMT -5
Greene's DC jail visit pulls GOP closer to Jan. 6 riotersWASHINGTON (AP) — Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene swept into the District of Columbia jail to check on conditions for the Jan. 6 defendants, with Republican lawmakers handshaking and high-fiving the prisoners, who chanted “Let's Go Brandon!” — a coded vulgarity against President Joe Biden — as the group left. A day earlier Speaker Kevin McCarthy met with the mother of slain rioter Ashli Babbitt, a Navy veteran who was shot and killed by police as she tried to climb through a broken window during the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. And the House Republican leader recently gave Fox News’ Tucker Carlson exclusive access to a trove of Jan. 6 surveillance tapes despite the conservative commentator’s airing of conspiracy theories about the Capitol attack. Taken together, the House Republicans can be seen as working steadily but intently to distort the facts of the deadly riot, which played out for the world to see when Donald Trump's supporters laid siege to the Capitol, and in the process downplay the risk of domestic extremism in the U.S. In actions and legislation, the Republicans are seeking to portray perpetrators of the Capitol riot as victims of zealous federal prosecutors, despite many being convicted of serious crimes. As Trump calls for the Jan. 6 defendants to be pardoned, some House Republicans are attempting to rebrand those who stormed the Capitol as “political prisoners.” The result is alarming to those who recognize a dangerously Orwellian attempt to whitewash recent history. “There's no question Marjorie Taylor Greene and other Republicans are attempting to rewrite history,” said Heidi Beirich, the co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism. “They're making light of what was a serious attack on our democracy.” The tour Greene led at the local jail Friday comes as nearly 1,000 people have been charged by the Justice Department in the attack on the Capitol — leaders of the extremist Oath Keepers convicted of seditious conspiracy. The 20 or so defendants being held at the jail, many in pretrial detention on serious federal charges, are among those who battled police at the Capitol, officials said, in what at times was a gruesome bloody scene of violence and mayhem. Greene told The Associated Press the idea she’s trying to rewrite history is the “stupidest thing” she’s ever heard of, especially since the assault on the Capitol has been captured in the 41,000 hours of video that McCarthy made available to Fox News. “We can’t rewrite it — it’s all on video,” Greene told the AP. “You can’t change the history, but what we can do is expose the truth. That’s what we need to do,” Greene said. The country has been here before — in the aftermath of the Civil War, when the Lost Cause movement sought to reframe the battle over ending slavery in the U.S. as one of states’ rights, and again in the years following the Civil Rights movement as critics of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. questioned his transformative legacy. In the House under Republican control this year, the new leadership openly questions what happened on Jan. 6 as well as how the federal government is investigating and prosecuting extremists. Outside groups are raising money and rallying to the aid of Jan. 6 defendants. This past week, a Republican-led Judiciary subcommittee probed the federal government's treatment of parents protesting school board policies — sometimes violently — as unfair. Next week, the new Republican committee on the “weaponization" of the federal government will delve into First Amendment free speech rights on social media. McCarthy warned that the federal government is labeling parents as “domestic terrorists” for showing up at school board meetings, even though such prosecutions are extremely rare. His was a reference to a 2021 Justice Department memo from Attorney General Merrick Garland responding to the National School Board Association's concerns about violent protesters at school board meetings. Garland had directed federal law enforcement to address what he called a “disturbing spike” in harassment of school officials. Probing the matter, the Republican-led House Judiciary Committee released a report showing that in one federal investigation, the FBI interviewed a mom for allegedly telling a local school board “we are coming for you.” In another, the FBI investigated a dad who opposed COVID mask mandates after a tipster to a federal hotline said he "fit the profile of an insurrectionist” because he “rails against the government” and “has a lot of guns and threatens to use them.” “Parents should have a right to go to school board meetings and not be called terrorists,” McCarthy said. While Greene has said the Capitol attack was wrong, at the jail visit Friday she said she believes there’s a "two-tiered” justice system and that the Jan. 6 defendants are being “treated as political prisoners” for their beliefs. Democrats on the tour said that is categorically false. While the local jail came has long been the subject of complaints — the U.S. Marshals made plans to relocate 400 detainees after a surprise 2021 inspection found parts of the facility “do not meet the minimum standards” — the Jan. 6 defendants have been housed in a newer wing that was not cited as problematic in the Marshals' statement. The two Democrats who joined the tour as members of the House Oversight Committee said they both had visited detention facilities before. “It's probably as good as a jail can be,” said Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas, a former public defender. Democratic Rep. Robert Garcia of California noted the way the Republicans led by Greene treated the Jan. 6 defendants as celebrities — shaking their hands and slapping backs when the lawmakers arrived in the jail facility. As they left, the defendants chanted the “Let's Go Brandon!” phrase against Biden, he said in a tweet. “What is most important to remember is that while Marjorie Taylor Greene and others want to treat these folks as pseudo celebrities, some of these folks are insurrectionists,” Garcia told reporters. “And we can't forget that.” Greene's DC jail visit pulls GOP closer to Jan. 6 rioters
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Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting ‘step two’ of Jan. 6 CoupIn an MSNBC exclusive, MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on new tape recordings of Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox's Maria Bartiromo. Cruz is caught pushing a fake “commission” to steal the 2020 election and outlining his plot just four days prior to January 6th, 2021. Melber breaks down the damaging "Cruz tapes" and how Cruz went from a Trump foe to a planner of 2020 plot for Trump. Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting ‘step two’ of Jan. 6 Coup
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 26, 2023 9:21:18 GMT -5
Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting ‘step two’ of Jan. 6 CoupIn an MSNBC exclusive, MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on new tape recordings of Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox's Maria Bartiromo. Cruz is caught pushing a fake “commission” to steal the 2020 election and outlining his plot just four days prior to January 6th, 2021. Melber breaks down the damaging "Cruz tapes" and how Cruz went from a Trump foe to a planner of 2020 plot for Trump. Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting ‘step two’ of Jan. 6 Coup I found myself sitting there saying, "Play the tape" then, "Play the damn tape." If you have to put forth that much verbiage to make sure your viewers know what they are seeing suggests to me the evidence isn't very convincing in and of itself. Have to head to work but will get back to this later.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 26, 2023 10:36:19 GMT -5
Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting ‘step two’ of Jan. 6 CoupIn an MSNBC exclusive, MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on new tape recordings of Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox's Maria Bartiromo. Cruz is caught pushing a fake “commission” to steal the 2020 election and outlining his plot just four days prior to January 6th, 2021. Melber breaks down the damaging "Cruz tapes" and how Cruz went from a Trump foe to a planner of 2020 plot for Trump. Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting ‘step two’ of Jan. 6 Coup I found myself sitting there saying, "Play the tape" then, "Play the damn tape." If you have to put forth that much verbiage to make sure your viewers know what they are seeing suggests to me the evidence isn't very convincing in and of itself. Have to head to work but will get back to this later. If I remember correctly it's a 12 minute video including the verbiage and Cruz on tape.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 26, 2023 12:19:02 GMT -5
I found myself sitting there saying, "Play the tape" then, "Play the damn tape." If you have to put forth that much verbiage to make sure your viewers know what they are seeing suggests to me the evidence isn't very convincing in and of itself. Have to head to work but will get back to this later. If I remember correctly it's a 12 minute video including the verbiage and Cruz on tape. Questions I have that I will work to answer later: What percentage is verbiage and what is Cruz? How brief are the Cruz sections compared to lead in and followup verbiage?
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 26, 2023 20:11:34 GMT -5
Okay, so almost 2 minutes telling us what we were going to hear, a 12 second clip of Cruz, another minute to Melber telling us, "We are going to play it for you and you can decide", another minute plus of him telling us what we should decide, then another 19 second Cruz clip. At 5:18 we are informed the words they say don't matter anyway because we "know".
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 26, 2023 21:23:15 GMT -5
Okay, so almost 2 minutes telling us what we were going to hear, a 12 second clip of Cruz, another minute to Melber telling us, "We are going to play it for you and you can decide", another minute plus of him telling us what we should decide, then another 19 second Cruz clip. At 5:18 we are informed the words they say don't matter anyway because we "know". Don't quite understand your post. Could you break it down like the sentence diagram below so I can understand your post better. Thanks!
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 26, 2023 22:39:26 GMT -5
Okay, so almost 2 minutes telling us what we were going to hear, a 12 second clip of Cruz, another minute to Melber telling us, "We are going to play it for you and you can decide", another minute plus of him telling us what we should decide, then another 19 second Cruz clip. At 5:18 we are informed the words they say don't matter anyway because we "know". Don't quite understand your post. Could you break it down like the sentence diagram below so I can understand your post better. Thanks! Just a self-indulgent post looking at Melber's propaganda technique.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2023 9:01:54 GMT -5
Don't quite understand your post. Could you break it down like the sentence diagram below so I can understand your post better. Thanks! Just a self-indulgent post looking at Melber's propaganda technique. You could have simply said "Too much Melber-not enough Cruz."
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2023 9:27:32 GMT -5
Just a self-indulgent post looking at Melber's propaganda technique. You could have simply said "Too much Melber-not enough Cruz." True, I could have. I just felt a desire to justify that idea.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2023 9:31:20 GMT -5
You could have simply said "Too much Melber-not enough Cruz." True, I could have. I just felt a desire to justify that idea. So in the end, you were really no better than Melber.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2023 10:36:26 GMT -5
True, I could have. I just felt a desire to justify that idea. So in the end, you were really no better than Melber. I can accept that.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 1, 2023 10:04:15 GMT -5
Trump’s embrace of Jan. 6 defendant shows pardon power — and dangerOn the day Mike Pence finally testified to the Jan. 6 grand jury, Trump comforted a Jan. 6 defendant, saying she’d end up “happy.” Thursday presented an already powerfully Trumpian split screen, with writer E. Jean Carroll testifying in New York that the former president raped her, while Mike Pence finally testified to the grand jury in Washington that’s investigating the Donald Trump-backed plot that culminated in the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection. Adding to the gravity of these historic events of the day was Trump’s literal embrace, while campaigning in New Hampshire, of a woman convicted of resisting police efforts to clear the grounds after the insurrection. The Republican 2024 hopeful told her: “You guys are gonna be okay.” In almost any other context, those words from a former and potential future president could be normal, even endearing. But in the context of the world we’re living in, Trump’s words served as the latest reminder that he can instantly pardon any and all Jan. 6 defendants if he retakes the White House. Such pardons would be legal — presidents are vested with vast clemency authority — but whether they’d also undermine the rule of law is another question. It’s an important reminder not only as we await a verdict in the Proud Boys seditious conspiracy trial, but for cases like the misdemeanor conviction of the woman Trump hugged in New Hampshire, Micki Larson-Olson, a member of QAnon splinter group Negative48, who has called for executing members of Congress who certified the 2020 election for President Joe Biden. Rest of article here: Trump’s embrace of Jan. 6 defendant shows pardon power — and danger
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Post by djAdvocate on May 1, 2023 14:14:18 GMT -5
there are only two ways they are going to be OK.
one is if they get counseling.
the second is if they abandon Trump.
other wise, he is going to drag them straight to hell.
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Post by tbop77 on May 3, 2023 7:51:06 GMT -5
Carlson’s text, published in full by the Times, was sent the day after the Jan.6 U.S. Capitol attack and was a reaction to a video clip of an assault that occurred weeks earlier. In the text, Carlson reacts to three Trump supporters beating one lone protestor. It is unclear what race the protestor was. “Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight,” Carlson writes. “Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it,” the text published by the Times said. www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/the-tucker-carlson-text-that-set-off-a-panic-at-fox-it-s-not-how-white-men-fight/ar-AA1aFbYUSad Fox News didn't have to accept the responsibility on how the hate they spewed affected so many people. By this text, it's not like they didn't know.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 4, 2023 10:48:57 GMT -5
Four Proud Boys found guilty of seditious conspiracy.
More news to come.
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Post by happyhoix on May 4, 2023 11:03:04 GMT -5
Four Proud Boys found guilty of seditious conspiracy. More news to come. So - not just a friendly gang of patriots engaging their 1st amendment rights.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 4, 2023 11:16:26 GMT -5
Four Proud Boys found guilty of seditious conspiracy. More news to come. So - not just a friendly gang of patriots engaging their 1st amendment rights. I thought a certain someone said they were peaceful tourists?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 4, 2023 18:17:23 GMT -5
trump supports J6 rioters convicted of seditious conspiracy. Trump's supporters behind him did not stand for the national anthem.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 4, 2023 21:30:57 GMT -5
Four Proud Boys found guilty of seditious conspiracy. More news to come. So - not just a friendly gang of patriots engaging their 1st amendment rights. Fake news. Of course they were friendly patriots...It is just the horrible liberal news media that made a friendly educational outing into something bad. ALTERNATIVE FACTS I tell you!!!
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Post by Tennesseer on May 5, 2023 23:52:46 GMT -5
DOJ secures longest sentence yet for convicted Jan. 6 defendantThe Department of Justice secured its most severe sentence for a convicted Jan. 6 defendant yet -- a marked victory for the government as it pursues those accused of attempting an insurrection. Peter Schwartz, whom prosecutors termed "one of the most violent and aggressive participants" in the Jan. 6 riot, was sentenced to 14 years behind bars and 36 months of probation in a decision announced by Judge Amit Mehta on Friday. Earlier, federal prosecutors argued he should be sentenced to 24.5 years (or 294 months) in prison, three years of supervised release, $2,000 restitution and a fine of $71,541. Rest of article here: DOJ secures longest sentence yet for convicted Jan. 6 defendant
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Post by Opti on May 6, 2023 1:48:47 GMT -5
So - not just a friendly gang of patriots engaging their 1st amendment rights. I thought a certain someone said they were peaceful tourists? Like those Muslims in France maybe... On 7 January 2015, at about 11:30 a.m. CET local time, two French Muslim terrorists and brothers, Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, forced their way into the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Armed with rifles and other weapons, they murdered 12 people and injured 11 others. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting
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Post by djAdvocate on May 6, 2023 12:49:57 GMT -5
trump supports J6 rioters convicted of seditious conspiracy. Trump's supporters behind him did not stand for the national anthem. never been a fan of the pledge OR the national anthem OR Trump. having the three combined is maybe the last thing i would ever listen to.
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