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Post by scgal on Mar 8, 2023 8:11:07 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 8, 2023 8:56:43 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda. That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity whoops Carlson is broadcasting is propaganda.
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Post by tbop77 on Mar 8, 2023 9:07:20 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda. "We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights." "I truly can't wait." "I hate him passionately. I blew up at [former Trump adviser] Peter Navarro today in frustration. I actually like Peter. But I can't handle much more of this." "He was pushing voting fraud stuff. I have no doubt there was fraud. But at this point, Trump and [pro-Trump lawyers] Lin [Wood] and [Sidney] Powell have so discredited their own case, and the rest of us to some extent, that it's infuriating. Absolutely enrages me." "That's the last four years. We're all pretending we've got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it's been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn't really an upside to Trump." www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-did-tucker-carlson-say-about-donald-trump-read-private-texts-in-full/ar-AA18mmkf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=66e7457b1a264494b22001bbbd7d4acb&ei=63You might want to check your facts...I believe Fox News might be running scared. Can you not see Tucker Carlson is a two-faced who was pushing his agenda?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 8, 2023 9:14:09 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda. How delusion can you be. They tried to overturn an election. Bad is an understatement. Republicans are calling it nothing but normal tourist behavior. You need to get out of your bubble. I suspect you believe the BLM protesters should have been shot. Do you think the same about the January 6 protestors? I bet not because they believe like you do.
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Post by scgal on Mar 8, 2023 9:38:52 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda. That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be.
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Post by scgal on Mar 8, 2023 9:40:02 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda. How delusion can you be. They tried to overturn an election. Bad is an understatement. Republicans are calling it nothing but normal tourist behavior. You need to get out of your bubble. I suspect you believe the BLM protesters should have been shot. Do you think the same about the January 6 protestors? I bet not because they believe like you do. You would be wrong
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 8, 2023 9:45:42 GMT -5
That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. It is scary - that you don't see it for what it is.
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Post by Tiny on Mar 8, 2023 10:13:38 GMT -5
Oh thank goodness... these people didn't die!!! Their deaths were faked!!! She must be enjoying her new life on some tropical island (or maybe staying at Mar A Lago ) She must be back home enjoying her life with family and friends. And these Officers - their deaths were also faked It's such a relief... I thought for sure these people were dead. I'm sure the Jan 6th coup attempt was so peaceful and loving and sweet. And yes that's all sarcasm... I feel I'm skirting Poe's Law territory I'm not scared. I spent the day watching various feeds and news outlets on Jan 6th... and not all of them were "liberal". It did NOT look like any 'protest' I have ever been attended. It was scary to watch. The image of people with special clubs/bars bashing in the SECURITY windows of the Capitol to gain entrance will be burned into my mind until I die. That was NO riot. It was a coup attempt. And everyone there was not a Patriot or acting like an American. And no sugar coating nor Carlson's biased video is going to change my mind.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 8, 2023 10:20:10 GMT -5
That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. How does that change the narrative. There was an insurrection to stop the peaceful transfer of power because a narcissist was unable to accept he lost. He egged on his followers to do this, and caused significant damage to the building, with some people wanting to capture legislators for some nefarious purpose. A few moments of quietude in hours of footage doesn’t change it. We all saw what was happening live. I guess all the people convicted were just peaceful tourists. Unbelievable. I could not believe you could stoop any lower in your ignorance
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 8, 2023 10:58:39 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 8, 2023 13:45:23 GMT -5
That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. So there is video of what - protesters wandering the halls quietly, not assaulting anyone? Does that prove the violent footage showing cops getting beat up never really happened? You realize if you went back in time you might be able to get video of people sitting quietly at tables or the band playing hymns on the deck of the titanic- didn’t mean that bitch didn’t break up and sink to the ocean floor. Say that 90 percent of the J6 protest was like a bunch of librarians on a field trip - doesn’t excuse the violence the other 10 percent did - and every treasonous jerk who was charged was caught on video committing their crimes.
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Trumps really having melt downs lately. More crazy than usual. Maybe the shoe is about to drop in one of his lawsuits.
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Post by swamp on Mar 8, 2023 14:52:52 GMT -5
That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. Just like the peaceful protesters at the BLM matter protests should have been shown, instead of the rioters. The difference here is that violence was the norm for Jan 6 dudes, BLM was mostly peaceful with a bunch of nuts causing some problems.
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Don't let Greene and the other American traitors out after their 'visit'. House Republicans say they plan to visit Jan. 6 defendants in jailRepublicans on the House Oversight Committee said Wednesday they are planning a visit with some defendants who are being held in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer of Kentucky and Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who also sits on the panel, told ABC News that the committee is planning to send a letter this week to lawmakers regarding the planned visit to the Washington, D.C., detention facility. Greene said the visit would focus on the conditions of those jailed over Jan. 6, including what she claimed to be "reports of abuse." "They're pretrial and they haven't even been convicted and they're not allowed to see their families, many times are not allowed to see their attorneys -- the food has been a major complaint," Greene alleged. "There's been complaints of it tasting like cleaner." The vast majority of defendants charged in connection with Jan. 6 have not been ordered to be detained pending trial, but in the several dozen cases where individuals have been held, a judge has determined that there's no combination of conditions that could be placed on them to ensure that they either wouldn't pose a danger to the general public or risk obstructing justice in their case. "As of today, approximately two dozen defendants, charged in the Capitol breach, are being held in pretrial detention," a spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's Office in D.C. told ABC News. "Almost all of those detainees are charged with assaultive conduct and none are charged with a misdemeanor." In late 2021, the U.S. Marshals Service conducted an inspection of the D.C. jail's Central Detention Facility – a separate facility from where the Jan. 6 defendants have been detained -- and said they would relocate roughly 400 inmates to a separate jail in Pennsylvania after finding the conditions there did not meet minimum federal standards. An inspection of the facility holding the Jan. 6 defendants, however, "did not identify conditions that would necessitate the transfer of inmates," the Marshals Service said in 2021. Greene has previously visited some Jan. 6 defendants in jail where she saw they were "suffering greatly," she said in 2021. She was criticized in December for what she said was a "sarcastic joke" about the riot at the Capitol: "If Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won. ... Not to mention, it would've been armed." She said Wednesday that the jail visit would be open to members outside of the Oversight Committee but that a date has not been confirmed. "We're gonna try and see what it looks like … that's part of what the Oversight Committee does with everything pertaining to the federal government, so we have some members that are going to hopefully tour that prison," Comer told reporters. The Oversight Committee's ranking Democratic member, Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, responded to the planned visit in a statement to ABC News, saying, "The treatment of detained individuals in facilities across the country is an important subject for Congressional oversight. That's why last Congress Oversight Democrats pressed for answers on the deteriorating conditions at Rikers Island in New York, for example." "Our GOP colleagues' sudden and selective sympathy for January 6 insurrectionists reflects their continuing effort to lionize the violent attempt to overthrow the 2020 presidential election," Raskin contended. News of the jail trip comes as House Speaker Kevin McCarthy faces bipartisan backlash over exclusively sharing security footage from Jan. 6 with Fox News' Tucker Carlson, who used the clips to try and downplay the Capitol attack -- drawing a rebuke from the Capitol Police chief. McCarthy said Tuesday he released the video in the interest of "transparency." The Department of Justice said earlier this week that at least 1,000 people have been charged in connection with the Capitol assault, which sent lawmakers briefly into hiding. One of the people who breached the building, Ashli Babbitt, was also fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer. House Republicans say they plan to visit Jan. 6 defendants in jail
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Post by scgal on Mar 9, 2023 8:36:57 GMT -5
No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. It is scary - that you don't see it for what it is. The thing is I do see it for what it really is. The left wanted to portray that protesters were only there to commit violence and any type of video to show a little something different would not be allowed. I agree with arresting anyone who committed violence I agree with arresting anyone who actually breached the capitol I don't agree with the narrative that the protesters only went there to commit violence I don't agree with the media censorship I don't agree with sham of video hearings to keep their narrative alive. So yes they are scared. Scared because we are now showing proof how low and deceptive they really are. I am scared that people are ok with these practices. am scared that under democrats this country will go to hell.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 9, 2023 9:29:10 GMT -5
It is scary - that you don't see it for what it is. The thing is I do see it for what it really is. The left wanted to portray that protesters were only there to commit violence and any type of video to show a little something different would not be allowed. I agree with arresting anyone who committed violence I agree with arresting anyone who actually breached the capitol I don't agree with the narrative that the protesters only went there to commit violence I don't agree with the media censorship I don't agree with sham of video hearings to keep their narrative alive. So yes they are scared. Scared because we are now showing proof how low and deceptive they really are. I am scared that people are ok with these practices. am scared that under democrats this country will go to hell. You are falsely creating the idea there is a "narrative that the protesters only went there to commit violence". The protestors went to Washington for a rally down the street from the Capitol. Then, encouraged by the then POTUS, they marched to the Capitol. And some became insurrectionists by entering that building to stop the legitimate process of Congressional ratification of the Electoral College vote. And there was violence committed by some of this insurrectionists. That is what I have seen in the media.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 9, 2023 9:40:23 GMT -5
Everything was fine and legal, up until the moment they breached the barricades, entered the Capitol, and disrupted the proceedings. Once that was done, this changed from a protest into a riot, and by their actions, an insurrection. If they weren’t there to do that originally, then, based on your words, Trump is guilty of inciting an insurrection.
So, which is it: did they go to disrupt this initially, or did Trump incite it. Your willingness to avoid looking at the events in a way that makes conservatives look bad is telling. Do you give the BLM protesters the same benefit of the doubt
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 9, 2023 10:00:06 GMT -5
I think a key understanding to the attempt to change the narrative is language. Note the words "riot" and "protesters". The goal seems to be to not label it an insurrection,
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Post by Tiny on Mar 9, 2023 10:36:38 GMT -5
It is scary - that you don't see it for what it is. The thing is I do see it for what it really is. The left wanted to portray that protesters were only there to commit violence and any type of video to show a little something different would not be allowed.
I agree with arresting anyone who committed violence I agree with arresting anyone who actually breached the capitol I don't agree with the narrative that the protesters only went there to commit violenceI don't agree with the media censorship I don't agree with sham of video hearings to keep their narrative alive. So yes they are scared. Scared because we are now showing proof how low and deceptive they really are. I am scared that people are ok with these practices. am scared that under democrats this country will go to hell. Maybe you should go with "the left is lazy"... not that they didn't want to report about the "nice peaceful people". there just weren't many of them around. It was super easy to report on the large numbers of people who were there to commit violence. I did see some interviews with people who were at the riot - who did seem confused at all the chaos and the number of , um, people, who were carrying implements of destruction (bats, tools, ropes, etc) and who seemed to have "wrong doing" on their minds. As for censorship - why doesn't Right ever report on the hardships that LGBTQ people experience in everyday life or what LGBTQ people actually want and what that would look like and how it would ACTUALLY effect our society and culture? Why didn't the Right ever put out a story about Muslims in America who aren't out to kill Americans or destroy America? Why doesn't the Right ever talk about the reasons a woman might NEED an abortion? Why doesn't the Right ever talk about how weakening government "entitlement" programs will effect their own States and the people who live there? Isn't that also censorship based on the idea that only reporting on one side IS censorship? It's not censorship - it's called being biased. Censorship is dictating what can or cannot be covered. Kind of like how Tucker Carlson and Fox news gets censored BY FOX NEWS. Good ole Tucker said all sorts of wonderful terrific things about trump on screen (I'm guessing because he was told to do so) and then off screen said he hates trump passionately.... Do you think Fox News would have said sure Tucker - tell the people what you really feel?
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 9, 2023 10:41:55 GMT -5
I think a key understanding to the attempt to change the narrative is language. Note the words "riot" and "protesters". The goal seems to be to not label it an insurrection, The goal is to say ‘nothing but a normal tourist visit where a few people got a little rowdy but boys will be boys, no one needs to go to jail for it, democracy was certainly not under attack.’ It’s interesting to me that SCGal thinks that exaggerating the violence and intent of this attack could bring down democracy but Trump sowing mistrust in the election process by doggedly repeating the Big Lie in the face of 60 court cases that proved otherwise is NOT a huge threat to democracy.
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Post by Tiny on Mar 9, 2023 10:49:25 GMT -5
::pondering:: when there is a big storm and there's lots of damage to houses/personal property/businesses - and the news ONLY covers the damage and ONLY talks to people who have experienced something bad - is that censorship Cause usually not everyone in the area with the damage has damage... How come the reporters don't cover the other side - the people who's houses/person property/business wasn't effected by the same storm that damaged their neighbors property or that damaged their "downtown" shopping area?? You know the people who's house is fine or whose business wasn't damaged? There's way more of them than those who suffered damage. Is that censorship I thought it was common knowledge that when the news reports on the damage from a storm-- not everyone in the area was equally effected by it... even thought the news reporting makes it seems like an entire area/town/city was literally wiped off the map.
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Post by tbop77 on Mar 9, 2023 11:20:00 GMT -5
I've learned with Republicans that if it isn't one thing....it is another. They will find any excuse for Trump, his supporters, and the Republican party in general. The party of responsibility has become the party of irresponsibility.
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I think a key understanding to the attempt to change the narrative is language. Note the words "riot" and "protesters". The goal seems to be to not label it an insurrection, The goal is to say ‘nothing but a normal tourist visit where a few people got a little rowdy but boys will be boys, no one needs to go to jail for it, democracy was certainly not under attack.’ It’s interesting to me that SCGal thinks that exaggerating the violence and intent of this attack could bring down democracy but Trump sowing mistrust in the election process by doggedly repeating the Big Lie in the face of 60 court cases that proved otherwise is NOT a huge threat to democracy. I think the goal is to wish it would just go away. I hope they keep showing the Republican party for what it has become. "Video shows a rioter — who has pleaded guilty to driving a stun gun into a police officer's neck, nearly killing him — smashing out Risch's window overlooking the Washington Monument and the national mall in an attempt to let more rioters into the building," reported Ryan J. Reilly and Sahil Kapur. "Additional video released this week shows Risch's trashed desk, including what looks like a framed campaign image bearing his last name." That rioter, Daniel Rodriguez, boasted openly to his friends that he "Tazzzzed the f**k out of the blue" and now faces a likely sentence of 7-10 years in prison. But Risch, who represents a state where Trump remains highly popular, didn't want to comment on the matter. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-senator-refuses-to-discuss-new-footage-of-maga-rioters-smashing-up-his-office/ar-AA18pGZA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e6974149c4854338910ce9aa43b9e1f1&ei=44
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2023 12:41:28 GMT -5
The only one who should be expelled is Schumer. The left is now shaking they are scared. I'm not saying the riot didn't happen but up until this point the media was all one sided to help the left push their bad Trump agenda. "We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights." "I truly can't wait." "I hate him passionately. I blew up at [former Trump adviser] Peter Navarro today in frustration. I actually like Peter. But I can't handle much more of this." "He was pushing voting fraud stuff. I have no doubt there was fraud. But at this point, Trump and [pro-Trump lawyers] Lin [Wood] and [Sidney] Powell have so discredited their own case, and the rest of us to some extent, that it's infuriating. Absolutely enrages me." "That's the last four years. We're all pretending we've got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it's been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn't really an upside to Trump." www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-did-tucker-carlson-say-about-donald-trump-read-private-texts-in-full/ar-AA18mmkf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=66e7457b1a264494b22001bbbd7d4acb&ei=63You might want to check your facts...I believe Fox News might be running scared. Can you not see Tucker Carlson is a two-faced who was pushing his agenda? and there is no "anti-Trump agenda". there is reporting the news, and covering it up. i think the media did a POOR job of reporting the news the first couple of years into Trump's presidency. they did better later on. edit: with one major exception, of course.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2023 12:49:30 GMT -5
It is scary - that you don't see it for what it is. The thing is I do see it for what it really is. The left wanted to portray that protesters were only there to commit violence and any type of video to show a little something different would not be allowed. i disagree. that was not the narrative on the left. i mean that with all due respect, because i can totally see how the right would see it that way. the job of the mainstream media is not to report, except in the most cursory sense, on peaceful protests. i know this because i have participated in them. what the media does is get the nucking futs members of the crowd on camera. that is what they do. they did it when i protested the Iraq War, and they did it on J6. that does not make the media liberal or conservative, it makes them sensationalist, which everyone knows they are. i would argue that this media tactic is a disservice to protest, in general. and since, in general, protest comes from the left, it is hard to assert liberal bias in that coverage. but J6 was only a protest until it broke police lines and invaded the capital. after that, it became an insurgency. everyone- left right and middle- needs to come to grips with that, or we will be dealing with the aftermath of that event for generations.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 9, 2023 16:27:40 GMT -5
That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. Because that footage is boring - just like the hours and hours of peaceful BLM footage they did not show us. The fires and looting are exciting. News stopped being informative 25 years ago - it is all just adrenaline now.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 9, 2023 16:55:05 GMT -5
That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. I don't watch Fox so I don't know the answer to the following question: How many hours of video did Fox/Carlson show its viewers since McCarthy released it exclusively to Carlson? Why don't you watch all 44,000 hours of security video turned over to Carlson/Fox and get back to us in 1833 days. Because that is how long it will take to watch all the security video footage.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2023 18:42:03 GMT -5
bills- a second congratulations for reaching 100k views. amazing thread.
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Post by Opti on Mar 9, 2023 19:30:05 GMT -5
That one side the media has been reporting is what happened. What Hannity is broadcasting is propaganda. No doubt. What I'm saying is why not show all of it. I read here that Carlson cherry picked this, this footage should have been added to the media reporting. Why not? I doesn't fit the left narrative. Now that this footage is shown they are afraid. They should be. What is there to be afraid of? In any riot, there are parts of it that are less violent. You may think the footage negates prior news coverage, but it doesn't. Sure, some people strolled through the Capitol like gawkers, but that doesn't mean all the other stuff did not happen. It did. Here's just one photo of someone trying to break a window by bashing something into it repeatedly.
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