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Post by billisonboard on Feb 3, 2023 12:13:09 GMT -5
Says the guy with a blatant criminal past to begin with. Donald Trump Furious With Kevin McCarthy Over Ashli Babbitt Remarks
Donald Trump has lashed out at Kevin McCarthy after the House speaker rejected the suggestion that January 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt was "murdered." In a social-media post, Trump has criticized McCarthy for the comments and also launched a series of attacks against Byrd. "I totally disagree with the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, in that the Police Officer 'Thug,' who has had a very checkered past to begin with, was not just 'doing his job' when he shot and killed Great Patriot Ashli Babbitt at point blank range," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "Despite trying to keep him anonymous, shielded, and protected, this MISFIT proudly showed up on NBC Fake Nightly News 'bragging' about the killing. He was not a hero but a COWARD, who wanted to show how tough he was. ASHLI BABBITT WAS MURDERED!!!" Donald Trump Furious With Kevin McCarthy Over Ashli Babbitt RemarksI do not see Trump's position on this as gaining him a single new supporter, only weakening his standing. Therefore I encourage him to keep talking about it.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 3, 2023 12:29:51 GMT -5
Trump knows all about’very checkered past.’ Serial bankruptcy, tax cheating, assaults on women, fraudulent business practices, serial cheating on his wife and girlfriends. He wrote the book on ‘checkered.’
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Post by tallguy on Feb 3, 2023 12:58:32 GMT -5
Every single person who entered the building should have been shot. I'd execute them now without a second thought, along with all those who stoked the insurrection or helped promulgate Trump's lies whether in the media, the courts, or the Congress. If the death penalty is appropriate for treason, what could be more treasonous than attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy and our system of government? At the very least they should be stripped of their citizenship. I think either would result in a very dangerous increase in radicalization of the general population. I think you worry too much. If anything is important enough to hold people accountable for, wouldn't this be it?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 3, 2023 13:22:00 GMT -5
I think either would result in a very dangerous increase in radicalization of the general population. I think you worry too much. If anything is important enough to hold people accountable for, wouldn't this be it? It isn't your desire to hold them accountable that causes me concern. It is your extreme purposed consequences. We don't need kill8ng fields nor a significant sized group left with only violent means to participate in elections.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 3, 2023 13:55:08 GMT -5
i misread social media as antisocial-media above. i actually rather like that term.
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Post by dondub on Feb 3, 2023 14:50:00 GMT -5
I think you worry too much. If anything is important enough to hold people accountable for, wouldn't this be it? It isn't your desire to hold them accountable that causes me concern. It is your extreme purposed consequences. We don't need kill8ng fields nor a significant sized group left with only violent means to participate in elections. Wouldn’t tallguys plan begin eliminating those that choose violent means to participate in elections?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 3, 2023 15:08:34 GMT -5
It isn't your desire to hold them accountable that causes me concern. It is your extreme purposed consequences. We don't need killing fields nor a significant sized group left with only violent means to participate in elections. Wouldn’t tallguys plan begin eliminating those that choose violent means to participate in elections? Let us look: Every single person who entered the building should have been shot. I'd execute them now without a second thought, along with all those who stoked the insurrection or helped promulgate Trump's lies whether in the media, the courts, or the Congress. If the death penalty is appropriate for treason, what could be more treasonous than attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy and our system of government? At the very least they should be stripped of their citizenship. So certainly option 1 eliminates those who chose to be violent in the past, plus a lot of other people. It would suggest that we would continue killing people for future political acts. Tough to put that genie back in the bottle. Option 2 of removing citizenship wouldn't eliminate disenfranchised people.
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Post by Tiny on Feb 3, 2023 15:22:38 GMT -5
Wouldn’t tallguys plan begin eliminating those that choose violent means to participate in elections? Let us look: Every single person who entered the building should have been shot. I'd execute them now without a second thought, along with all those who stoked the insurrection or helped promulgate Trump's lies whether in the media, the courts, or the Congress. If the death penalty is appropriate for treason, what could be more treasonous than attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy and our system of government? At the very least they should be stripped of their citizenship. So certainly option 1 eliminates those who chose to be violent in the past, plus a lot of other people. It would suggest that we would continue killing people for future political acts. Tough to put that genie back in the bottle. Option 2 of removing citizenship wouldn't eliminate disenfranchised people. There's something better than shooting them - it's inflicting what they happily inflict on other Americans who they consider unAmerican.... How about just keeping them all from being able to vote - convicting them of "felony" charges might be enough to do that - lots of States have laws that restrict felonies from voting. How about hitting them in their wallet (most of them seemed to have money/business) by keeping them from working or running their business or with fines. Those are the traditional ways to keep people who you don't want to have a say in our government from having a say - make it hard for them to vote and make it hard for them to get ahead in life. I'm guessing a lot of the Jan 6 traitors could use a big dose of reality by having to deal with other Americans have to deal with.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 3, 2023 15:45:53 GMT -5
Let us look: So certainly option 1 eliminates those who chose to be violent in the past, plus a lot of other people. It would suggest that we would continue killing people for future political acts. Tough to put that genie back in the bottle. Option 2 of removing citizenship wouldn't eliminate disenfranchised people. There's something better than shooting them - it's inflicting what they happily inflict on other Americans who they consider unAmerican.... How about just keeping them all from being able to vote - convicting them of "felony" charges might be enough to do that - lots of States have laws that restrict felonies from voting. How about hitting them in their wallet (most of them seemed to have money/business) by keeping them from working or running their business or with fines. Those are the traditional ways to keep people who you don't want to have a say in our government from having a say - make it hard for them to vote and make it hard for them to get ahead in life. I'm guessing a lot of the Jan 6 traitors could use a big dose of reality by having to deal with other Americans have to deal with. This is happening in the more extreme cases already. tallguy's proposal would extend it much more widely. I would encourage people to thing about the issues in other segments of our society in which there is little hope and toss in that it would involve people politically active. I don't think it is worth it at this point.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 3, 2023 17:49:36 GMT -5
Wouldn’t tallguys plan begin eliminating those that choose violent means to participate in elections? Let us look: Every single person who entered the building should have been shot. I'd execute them now without a second thought, along with all those who stoked the insurrection or helped promulgate Trump's lies whether in the media, the courts, or the Congress. If the death penalty is appropriate for treason, what could be more treasonous than attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy and our system of government? At the very least they should be stripped of their citizenship. So certainly option 1 eliminates those who chose to be violent in the past, plus a lot of other people. It would suggest that we would continue killing people for future political acts. Tough to put that genie back in the bottle. Option 2 of removing citizenship wouldn't eliminate disenfranchised people. Treasonous acts. Not a small distinction.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 3, 2023 18:15:46 GMT -5
Let us look: So certainly option 1 eliminates those who chose to be violent in the past, plus a lot of other people. It would suggest that we would continue killing people for future political acts. Tough to put that genie back in the bottle. Option 2 of removing citizenship wouldn't eliminate disenfranchised people. Treasonous acts. Not a small distinction. Not clearly definable acts. Once the guillotine starts falling, things can get very slick which makes it difficult to keep one's footing.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 3, 2023 19:30:46 GMT -5
Treasonous acts. Not a small distinction. Not clearly definable acts. Once the guillotine starts falling, things can get very slick which makes it difficult to keep one's footing. Not to worry. I've always had a strong foundation and really good balance.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 4, 2023 11:58:27 GMT -5
Let us look: So certainly option 1 eliminates those who chose to be violent in the past, plus a lot of other people. It would suggest that we would continue killing people for future political acts. Tough to put that genie back in the bottle. Option 2 of removing citizenship wouldn't eliminate disenfranchised people. Treasonous acts. Not a small distinction. the J6 committee doesn't seem to have made the proper impression on those that participated. the proper impression would be that J6 was not a field trip for white people. it was a treasonous act. the fact that most of them didn't bash in windows or injure policemen and damage property does NOT mean that they are not guilty of high crimes. they seem to think that it was not only fun, but the honor of their lives to be there. and that is precisely the problem. it is the disgrace of a lifetime, and they should be made to feel that through collective shame and retribution.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 4, 2023 12:32:55 GMT -5
Treasonous acts. Not a small distinction. the J6 committee doesn't seem to have made the proper impression on those that participated. the proper impression would be that J6 was not a field trip for white people. it was a treasonous act. the fact that most of them didn't bash in windows or injure policemen and damage property does NOT mean that they are not guilty of high crimes. they seem to think that it was not only fun, but the honor of their lives to be there. and that is precisely the problem. it is the disgrace of a lifetime, and they should be made to feel that through collective shame and retribution. Using shame and retribution in an attempt to make someone feel what you think they should feel? Interesting approach.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 4, 2023 14:32:37 GMT -5
Treasonous acts. Not a small distinction. the J6 committee doesn't seem to have made the proper impression on those that participated. the proper impression would be that J6 was not a field trip for white people. it was a treasonous act. the fact that most of them didn't bash in windows or injure policemen and damage property does NOT mean that they are not guilty of high crimes. they seem to think that it was not only fun, but the honor of their lives to be there. and that is precisely the problem. it is the disgrace of a lifetime, and they should be made to feel that through collective shame and retribution. When all of your favorite politicians (and a critical mass number of politicians and public figures) tell you that you are doing the right thing, you tend to believe that you are doing the right thing.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 21, 2023 18:47:24 GMT -5
Losers like their leader. Trump Supporters Turn to 'Plan C' to Reinstate Him After Supreme Court Loss
Three Trump-supporting brothers are preparing to roll out their "plan C" to reinstate him as president after the United States Supreme Court once again declined to hear their case. In a Facebook post Tuesday, Raland Brunson—one of the plaintiffs in the case seeking to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential election and reinstall former President Donald Trump in the White House—said the Supreme Court had once again rejected an effort to hear the case, all but ending the already slim chance current President Joe Biden would be removed from the White House. "[Second] Petition denied," Brunson wrote in the Facebook post. "Moving on to plan C. I will say more about that within the next few days. We have been working long and hard on these strategies and there are more to come." "We understand this to be a possible long but worthy goal," he added. "The result is that everyone in this nation will have the peace of mind that comes from knowing that the candidate of their choice will be bound by their oath to protect the rights and freedom of the people they represent." Newsweek has reached out to Brunson for comment. The case alleges lawmakers violated their oaths of office by failing to investigate foreign intervention in the 2020 presidential race, which the brothers claim allegedly rigged the election against Trump. After the case was initially denied by the court on January 9, the Brunson brothers appealed the Court's decision on the case, only for it to be denied yet again on Tuesday. It is currently unclear what they hope to accomplish. While Trump has not abandoned his unsubstantiated claims of an election rigged against him, he has all but begun to look to the future, officially running as a candidate on the Republican ballot in 2024. Meanwhile, Trump and his allies still face potential prosecution for attempting to overturn the result of the 2020 election in the swing state of Georgia following a special grand jury's recommendation to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to issue indictments as a result of its findings. Brunson, however, is not giving up. "I'm baffled with [the] fact that the opponents of this case are against the Oath of Office, which is the only instrument that protects the Constitution," he wrote in another Facebook post prior to the Supreme Court's decision. "It's obvious that those who fiercely object to this case would like to see the Constitution dismantled, torn apart, or altogether eliminated." Trump Supporters Turn to 'Plan C' to Reinstate Him After Supreme Court Loss
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 21, 2023 19:15:39 GMT -5
um....what? what did i just read in that last paragraph? who said that? the guy that brought the case? because that is exactly the opposite of the truth, if so.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 21, 2023 20:33:13 GMT -5
um....what? what did i just read in that last paragraph? who said that? the guy that brought the case? because that is exactly the opposite of the truth, if so. The guy who brought the case. And that's why SCOTUS keeps on passing on hearing their cases.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 21, 2023 20:46:02 GMT -5
uh, yeah. what he said is why this case should not be brought.
maybe he meant "proponents"
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Post by teen persuasion on Feb 22, 2023 14:06:16 GMT -5
uh, yeah. what he said is why this case should not be brought. maybe he meant "proponents" Proponents/opponents - tomato/tomatoe. Same thing, you know what I mean...
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 24, 2023 14:28:00 GMT -5
Call me if they actually show up. That whole crew seems perfectly happy to just ignore subpoenas. And we don’t seem to be enacting any consequences.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 24, 2023 20:36:34 GMT -5
i am still chuckling about Brunson. hilarious.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 4, 2023 13:36:41 GMT -5
am i supposed to masturbate into the flag while listening to that?
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Post by dondub on Mar 4, 2023 16:25:23 GMT -5
am i supposed to masturbate into the flag while listening to that? Yes. And a silken saddle for your lady friends.🥳
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From that jumping point, Carlson used cherry picked, time-stamp free clips to paint a picture of peaceful protesters who were being targeted by the Department of Justice and the Democratic party. Carlson’s use of the footage essentially amounted to a declaration that because Fox had identified some images of trespassers milling about, nothing uncouth actually happened in the Capitol on Jan. 6. The Fox host and his guests crafted an image of peaceful protesters, who were ushered into the Capitol by police officers and spent their time exploring the complex with an air of “reverence.” Charlie Hurt, appearing as a guest on the show, falsely asserted that there was “no evidence” rioters inside the capitol were armed. Carlson declared that members of the Jan. 6 Committee “lied about what they saw and then hid the evidence from the public, as well as from January 6th criminal defendants and their lawyers.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tucker-carlson-s-jan-6-footage--delivers-the-sloppy-propaganda-kevin-mccarthy-wanted/ar-AA18iLam?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f3fc32b11b64d5b8c5cd978d08b7201&ei=34Is this the next "big lie" Fox plans on using?
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Post by swamp on Mar 7, 2023 11:03:40 GMT -5
From that jumping point, Carlson used cherry picked, time-stamp free clips to paint a picture of peaceful protesters who were being targeted by the Department of Justice and the Democratic party. Carlson’s use of the footage essentially amounted to a declaration that because Fox had identified some images of trespassers milling about, nothing uncouth actually happened in the Capitol on Jan. 6. The Fox host and his guests crafted an image of peaceful protesters, who were ushered into the Capitol by police officers and spent their time exploring the complex with an air of “reverence.” Charlie Hurt, appearing as a guest on the show, falsely asserted that there was “no evidence” rioters inside the capitol were armed. Carlson declared that members of the Jan. 6 Committee “lied about what they saw and then hid the evidence from the public, as well as from January 6th criminal defendants and their lawyers.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tucker-carlson-s-jan-6-footage--delivers-the-sloppy-propaganda-kevin-mccarthy-wanted/ar-AA18iLam?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f3fc32b11b64d5b8c5cd978d08b7201&ei=34Is this the next "big lie" Fox plans on using? yes. Since they got a smackdown for the election big lie, time to dangle some other shiny object in front of their viewers to keep them riled up.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 7, 2023 11:29:29 GMT -5
Murdoch should fire Carlson and Kevin McCarthy should be expelled from Congress.
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