Toilet Paper - Again? Stocking Up?

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Last spring, I picked up a multi package of quilted Northern.  We had a package of Costco TP left.  The rolls of the quilted Northern are about 3/4” of those of Costco.  I thought they looked narrower.  Shorting the width like that gives about one extra roll out of 5.

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Nov 25, 2020 9:38:59 GMT -5 @missrigby said:

chiver78 We're wrong even if we don't live in New England? And it's not "all of you are wrong" anyway. It should be "and y'all are wrong" except that we're not.

In the South, it's Co-Cola, unless y'all want something specific, like an RC (and a MoonPie, of course) or, heaven forfend (!) Pepsi.

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Nov 25, 2020 12:42:07 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Soda.

I put my TP on the counter next to the throne. Someone put the TP holder right next to the toilet and when it has a roll on it, I'm constantly whacking into it with my leg. 

So, not over or under. On end!    lol 

That is DBF’s excuse for the hall bathroom. Sometimes the roll of tissue is even on the floor, which would gross me out if I had to use it (I know, I’m strange). I don’t use that bathroom though, literally have never used it, so I don’t care.

In the other 2 bathrooms, I’m usually the only person that will actually put the tissue roll on the holder, and it’s over for me. Sometimes I’ll sacrifice the last little bit of paper on a roll and go ahead and change it so I don’t get irritated about the next person just sitting a new roll down somewhere instead of putting it on the holder. On the rare occasions someone else does put it on the holder, I just change it if it’s not “right”.

[toomuchreality]

Nov 25, 2020 10:07:36 GMT -5 skeeter said:

Anyone else experiencing price gouging on TP in their area? A local chain store just jacked the price of a 4 (yes 4) pack of Charmin to $9.99 each. 

That's what the price is now in my area too. 🤔 But it's better than the price I've heard about online!

[skeeter]

Nov 25, 2020 20:21:07 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

Nov 25, 2020 10:07:36 GMT -5 skeeter said:

Anyone else experiencing price gouging on TP in their area? A local chain store just jacked the price of a 4 (yes 4) pack of Charmin to $9.99 each. 

That's what the price is now in my area too. 🤔 But it's better than the price I've heard about online!

Target had 12 rolls of Charmin for $11.99 tonight and shelves were well stocked.  What a big difference in prices

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You can't just count rolls.  Are they double rolls, etc?  Most will give you an equivalent.

I will admit I am a hoarder.  I have two huge packages from Costco, a package of double rolls from WM, a couple of packages in the laundry room leftover from a previous Costco run, and 2 or 3 rolls in each of 2 bathrooms.  

What can I say?  I have children with birthdays coming up! 

[jelloshots4all]

A friend of mine received 3 cases of TP as a gag gift from her brother last Xmas.  pre-pandemic. Best. Gift. Ever lol 

[CCL]

Nov 25, 2020 21:37:34 GMT -5 skeeter said:

Nov 25, 2020 20:21:07 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

That's what the price is now in my area too. 🤔 But it's better than the price I've heard about online!

Target had 12 rolls of Charmin for $11.99 tonight and shelves were well stocked.  What a big difference in prices

Maybe that's how they're keeping the shelves stocked? My Target hasn't raised prices much, if at all, and their TP and PT shelves were bare this week.

[toomuchreality]

Nov 25, 2020 21:37:34 GMT -5 skeeter said:

Nov 25, 2020 20:21:07 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

That's what the price is now in my area too. 🤔 But it's better than the price I've heard about online!

Target had 12 rolls of Charmin for $11.99 tonight and shelves were well stocked.  What a big difference in prices

That's a crazy price difference!
Was it the mega rolls (6=36)?

When I was at Smith's the other day, Kroger brand was 4 rolls for $9.99. Supposed to be comparable to Northern Soft.
Charmin mega rolls are what I prefer.
They only had the BIG pkgs/8 or 12 rolls? of Charmin, for $24.99. I'm not sure if they were mega rolls, or not.
Not much selection, or much product. Even the cheapest brand (I've never heard of) was $5.99 for 4 reg size, 1ply rolls. 😖

[Iggy aka IG]

Nov 26, 2020 4:24:10 GMT -5 jelloshots4all said:

A friend of mine received 3 cases of TP as a gag gift from her brother last Xmas.  pre-pandemic. Best. Gift. Ever lol 

Along these lines, my family is getting travel size bottles of hand sanitizer, toothpaste, etc. in their stockings, lol.  They're welcome!  

[skeeter]

Nov 26, 2020 9:34:35 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

Nov 25, 2020 21:37:34 GMT -5 skeeter said:

Target had 12 rolls of Charmin for $11.99 tonight and shelves were well stocked.  What a big difference in prices

That's a crazy price difference!
Was it the mega rolls (6=36)?

When I was at Smith's the other day, Kroger brand was 4 rolls for $9.99. Supposed to be comparable to Northern Soft.
Charmin mega rolls are what I prefer.
They only had the BIG pkgs/8 or 12 rolls? of Charmin, for $24.99. I'm not sure if they were mega rolls, or not.
Not much selection, or much product. Even the cheapest brand (I've never heard of) was $5.99 for 4 reg size, 1ply rolls. 😖

Kroger = 4 2-ply mega rolls for $9.99

Target = 12 2-ply mega rolls for $11.99

If I give Kroger the benefit of doubt, maybe they mismarked accidently, but I kind of doubt it as this particular store is notorious for overcharging and if you don't catch it at the check out....

Just hope nobody paid that price because they were running low and desperate.  Like you said, just crazy!

[tractor]

I just bought an 18 pack of mega rolls, 2-ply with the local store band form $12. This will last us months.

Shelves were full with no panic buying going on. This includes paper towels and cleaning supplies.

[toomuchreality]

Nov 26, 2020 17:24:26 GMT -5 tractor said:

I just bought an 18 pack of mega rolls, 2-ply with the local store band form $12. This will last us months.

Shelves were full with no panic buying going on. This includes paper towels and cleaning supplies.

_

I might need to come shop in your area!

[buystoys]

DH and I keep wondering when the TP panic will stop.  How much money and space do people have?

[Blonde Granny]

I am fortunate on the money side and even on the space side. I have a 2 car garage with only 1 car in it. The other garage has a steel shelving unit that IIRC is 84" wide and 84" high with 4 shelves. At times there are advantages of being an old widow lady and have no one to care for but me.

[skeeter]

Nov 26, 2020 17:24:26 GMT -5 tractor said:

I just bought an 18 pack of mega rolls, 2-ply with the local store band form $12. This will last us months.

Shelves were full with no panic buying going on. This includes paper towels and cleaning supplies.

WOW, you did good

[tractor]

Nov 27, 2020 9:16:07 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

Nov 26, 2020 17:24:26 GMT -5 tractor said:

I just bought an 18 pack of mega rolls, 2-ply with the local store band form $12. This will last us months.

Shelves were full with no panic buying going on. This includes paper towels and cleaning supplies.

_

I might need to come shop in your area!

Our local chain is Meijer, mainly in Michigan, but in some surrounding states as well. They seem to be pretty good at keeping things in stock.

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I have no problem with anyone stocking up as long as there seems to be plenty.  

I stayed out of Costco today because of BF, but I will probably go Monday because there a few things in their latest mailing that I want.  Plus, I need gas.  If there seems to be plenty of toilet paper, I may pick up another package.

People are always asking for stuff on FB and NextDoor.  I want to be the person who has enough to share, not Mrs. Grumpy.

[Ava]

I went to Walmart last Saturday and bought two 12 rolls of their brand toilet paper. I was running low and I have two bathrooms.
The toilet paper aisle has been lightly stocked ever since toilet paper came back into stock, but there's always enough. You may not find your favorite brand, though.
I don't plan to go crazy and hoard stuff like I did in April and May. I get what I get and if not I'll do without. I still have stuff from back then that I haven't used.

[NoNamePerson]

Nov 27, 2020 18:56:24 GMT -5 @bamafan1954 said:

I have no problem with anyone stocking up as long as there seems to be plenty.  

I stayed out of Costco today because of BF, but I will probably go Monday because there a few things in their latest mailing that I want.  Plus, I need gas.  If there seems to be plenty of toilet paper, I may pick up another package.

People are always asking for stuff on FB and NextDoor.  I want to be the person who has enough to share, not Mrs. Grumpy.

How is that decided? by the amount on the shelves in a store until it is depleted by folks thinking there is plenty so grab up more even if someone already has 300 plus rolls in the house? I'm just curious?

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Nov 28, 2020 7:00:29 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

Nov 27, 2020 18:56:24 GMT -5 @bamafan1954 said:

I have no problem with anyone stocking up as long as there seems to be plenty.  

I stayed out of Costco today because of BF, but I will probably go Monday because there a few things in their latest mailing that I want.  Plus, I need gas.  If there seems to be plenty of toilet paper, I may pick up another package.

People are always asking for stuff on FB and NextDoor.  I want to be the person who has enough to share, not Mrs. Grumpy.

How is that decided? by the amount on the shelves in a store until it is depleted by folks thinking there is plenty so grab up more even if someone already has 300 plus rolls in the house? I'm just curious?

No idea.  Just like I don't know when I have enough.  Is 300 rolls the goal I should aim for?

[Deleted]

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

[NoNamePerson]

Nov 28, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

WOW sounds like you moved from the frying pan to the fire if memory serves me about you moving recently. If not then nevermind - old age and all that jazz

[Deleted]

Nov 28, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

Truck drivers and essential workers are still driving and working because they have bills to pay. I’m an essential employee and I’ve wished countless times since spring that I could avoid going to work until all of this was over and still take care of my responsibilities and maintain my lifestyle. I’m sure I’m not the only essential employee that has had those thoughts. Unfortunately, for most of us, we need the income we get from jobs that require us to be physically present.

I get a little angry on behalf of the essential employees that have to deal with the general public and encounter people that refuse to wear masks and people that get ugly with the employees when they are politely reminded that masks are required. I wish there were some way to protect those employees, but the only thing I can think of is for every business that’s open to the public to have security present to enforce the rules.

Last week I stopped at a gas station and forgot my mask when I went inside. I didn’t realize it until I got back to my car and saw my mask. That’s the 2nd time I’ve done that, the first was a quick run inside the grocery store. Both times I felt bad when I realized what I’d done. I wouldn’t have gotten upset at all if an employee had reminded me. If I got irritated, it would’ve been with myself for forgetting in the first place and having to walk all the way back to my car. You’d think I would remember by now, but I can’t say how many times I’ll get to the door, and have to go back to my car. I bought 3 boxes of 50 disposable masks and put a box in each vehicle that we drive regularly, so we’ll always have 1 if we forget to bring one from home. Maybe I should put 1 in a baggie to keep in my purse too.

[NoNamePerson]

Nov 28, 2020 15:14:07 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Nov 28, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

Truck drivers and essential workers are still driving and working because they have bills to pay. I’m an essential employee and I’ve wished countless times since spring that I could avoid going to work until all of this was over and still take care of my responsibilities and maintain my lifestyle. I’m sure I’m not the only essential employee that has had those thoughts. Unfortunately, for most of us, we need the income we get from jobs that require us to be physically present.

I get a little angry on behalf of the essential employees that have to deal with the general public and encounter people that refuse to wear masks and people that get ugly with the employees when they are politely reminded that masks are required. I wish there were some way to protect those employees, but the only thing I can think of is for every business that’s open to the public to have security present to enforce the rules.

Last week I stopped at a gas station and forgot my mask when I went inside. I didn’t realize it until I got back to my car and saw my mask. That’s the 2nd time I’ve done that, the first was a quick run inside the grocery store. Both times I felt bad when I realized what I’d done. I wouldn’t have gotten upset at all if an employee had reminded me. If I got irritated, it would’ve been with myself for forgetting in the first place and having to walk all the way back to my car. You’d think I would remember by now, but I can’t say how many times I’ll get to the door, and have to go back to my car. I bought 3 boxes of 50 disposable masks and put a box in each vehicle that we drive regularly, so we’ll always have 1 if we forget to bring one from home. Maybe I should put 1 in a baggie to keep in my purse too.

I have learned to put a mask on top of my purse when I put purse in passenger seat! It’s a good reminder. Of course their is rarely anyone needing that seat. Not perfect solution but it has kept me from forgetting when doing a quick in and out at service station. 

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Nov 28, 2020 7:00:29 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

Nov 27, 2020 18:56:24 GMT -5 @bamafan1954 said:

I have no problem with anyone stocking up as long as there seems to be plenty.  

I stayed out of Costco today because of BF, but I will probably go Monday because there a few things in their latest mailing that I want.  Plus, I need gas.  If there seems to be plenty of toilet paper, I may pick up another package.

People are always asking for stuff on FB and NextDoor.  I want to be the person who has enough to share, not Mrs. Grumpy.

How is that decided? by the amount on the shelves in a store until it is depleted by folks thinking there is plenty so grab up more even if someone already has 300 plus rolls in the house? I'm just curious?

I now know how this is decided.  When Costco doesn't have Charmin/Bounty or even its own Kirkland brand, there isn't plenty.  I left what was there for someone else.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Nov 28, 2020 15:21:47 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

Nov 28, 2020 15:14:07 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Truck drivers and essential workers are still driving and working because they have bills to pay. I’m an essential employee and I’ve wished countless times since spring that I could avoid going to work until all of this was over and still take care of my responsibilities and maintain my lifestyle. I’m sure I’m not the only essential employee that has had those thoughts. Unfortunately, for most of us, we need the income we get from jobs that require us to be physically present.

I get a little angry on behalf of the essential employees that have to deal with the general public and encounter people that refuse to wear masks and people that get ugly with the employees when they are politely reminded that masks are required. I wish there were some way to protect those employees, but the only thing I can think of is for every business that’s open to the public to have security present to enforce the rules.

Last week I stopped at a gas station and forgot my mask when I went inside. I didn’t realize it until I got back to my car and saw my mask. That’s the 2nd time I’ve done that, the first was a quick run inside the grocery store. Both times I felt bad when I realized what I’d done. I wouldn’t have gotten upset at all if an employee had reminded me. If I got irritated, it would’ve been with myself for forgetting in the first place and having to walk all the way back to my car. You’d think I would remember by now, but I can’t say how many times I’ll get to the door, and have to go back to my car. I bought 3 boxes of 50 disposable masks and put a box in each vehicle that we drive regularly, so we’ll always have 1 if we forget to bring one from home. Maybe I should put 1 in a baggie to keep in my purse too.

I have learned to put a mask on top of my purse when I put purse in passenger seat! It’s a good reminder. Of course their is rarely anyone needing that seat. Not perfect solution but it has kept me from forgetting when doing a quick in and out at service station. 

I have a stash of about 20 cloth masks and a box of disposable.  I put 4 cloth masks and a package of 10 disposable in each car.  The cloth masks get pulled out weekly and washed (they’re only used a couple times each) and replaced.

I have gone back for masks, but am getting better at not needing to do so.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 28, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

But if everyone stayed home, we would all be screwed. There are more essential employees than just healthcare and grocery stores. Hell, how many non-healthcare employees are needed to run a hospital, doctors office, etc?

I used to work for a gas/propane/oil company. They are an essential business because plenty of people on my area have propane/oil heat, and they supplied gas to gas stations.

I have two dogs with health issues. We can’t feed either of them food from Walmart so for us, Chewy/Amazon is essential

If we all want food to eat, farmers and meat packing plants need to be open. But we also need packaging manufacturers to make the packaging, bakers to make the pre-made food we buy in grocery stores, truck drivers to deliver the food, employees to receive it, stock people to stock the shelves, people to order and cashiers to ring it up (I’m sure I forgot a lot of necessary positions).

And what do we do with all of the kids of the essential employees? They certainly shouldn’t be at the grandparents so we need daycares/baby sitters

While some on here might disagree, I believe cops to be a necessity. And ambulance/emt. 911 dispatchers.

The list goes on and on. So do you really want to shut the country down and have no one go to work?

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Nov 28, 2020 18:42:02 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 28, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

But if everyone stayed home, we would all be screwed. There are more essential employees than just healthcare and grocery stores. Hell, how many non-healthcare employees are needed to run a hospital, doctors office, etc?

I used to work for a gas/propane/oil company. They are an essential business because plenty of people on my area have propane/oil heat, and they supplied gas to gas stations.

I have two dogs with health issues. We can’t feed either of them food from Walmart so for us, Chewy/Amazon is essential

If we all want food to eat, farmers and meat packing plants need to be open. But we also need packaging manufacturers to make the packaging, bakers to make the pre-made food we buy in grocery stores, truck drivers to deliver the food, employees to receive it, stock people to stock the shelves, people to order and cashiers to ring it up (I’m sure I forgot a lot of necessary positions).

And what do we do with all of the kids of the essential employees? They certainly shouldn’t be at the grandparents so we need daycares/baby sitters

While some on here might disagree, I believe cops to be a necessity. And ambulance/emt. 911 dispatchers.

The list goes on and on. So do you really want to shut the country down and have no one go to work?

I’ve said at least once since the spring that it’s funny how the low paid, busy bee workers that so many people look down their noses at, are so important now, to keep the country running. Many of the higher paid workers were and are able to limit their exposure by working from home, but they were only able to make that work because worker bees across the nation were out there putting themselves at risk by going to work, making and moving products and providing necessary services like deliveries.

I honestly think that they are the unsung heroes during this pandemic. Most of us have enough common sense to recognize the contributions of our health care workers and appreciate them, and I'm not trying to take anything from them. I just hope that people have gained a new appreciation for all the people behind the scenes that have to leave the safety of their homes and go to work, sometimes at jobs that barely pay enough to live on, to enable the people that CAN work from home to have what they need.... delivered to their doorstep if they want. And maybe we should stop looking down on them and thinking they are lazy underachievers or whatever.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 28, 2020 19:47:32 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Nov 28, 2020 18:42:02 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

But if everyone stayed home, we would all be screwed. There are more essential employees than just healthcare and grocery stores. Hell, how many non-healthcare employees are needed to run a hospital, doctors office, etc?

I used to work for a gas/propane/oil company. They are an essential business because plenty of people on my area have propane/oil heat, and they supplied gas to gas stations.

I have two dogs with health issues. We can’t feed either of them food from Walmart so for us, Chewy/Amazon is essential

If we all want food to eat, farmers and meat packing plants need to be open. But we also need packaging manufacturers to make the packaging, bakers to make the pre-made food we buy in grocery stores, truck drivers to deliver the food, employees to receive it, stock people to stock the shelves, people to order and cashiers to ring it up (I’m sure I forgot a lot of necessary positions).

And what do we do with all of the kids of the essential employees? They certainly shouldn’t be at the grandparents so we need daycares/baby sitters

While some on here might disagree, I believe cops to be a necessity. And ambulance/emt. 911 dispatchers.

The list goes on and on. So do you really want to shut the country down and have no one go to work?

I’ve said at least once since the spring that it’s funny how the low paid, busy bee workers that so many people look down their noses at, are so important now, to keep the country running. Many of the higher paid workers were and are able to limit their exposure by working from home, but they were only able to make that work because worker bees across the nation were out there putting themselves at risk by going to work, making and moving products and providing necessary services like deliveries.

I honestly think that they are the unsung heroes during this pandemic. Most of us have enough common sense to recognize the contributions of our health care workers and appreciate them, and I'm not trying to take anything from them. I just hope that people have gained a new appreciation for all the people behind the scenes that have to leave the safety of their homes and go to work, sometimes at jobs that barely pay enough to live on, to enable the people that CAN work from home to have what they need.... delivered to their doorstep if they want. And maybe we should stop looking down on them and thinking they are lazy underachievers or whatever.

Agreed with you. Our world would be in a world of hurt without the essential “worker bees”. My husband owns a bread route (they deliver to various grocery stores) so he is one of the worker bees. In fact, this spring was his busiest time ever. I’m not sure what everyone did with all the bread they bought!lol. I think society has realized the contribution added by the worker bees. Lord knows it wasn’t the accountants, attorneys or engineers who kept this country running