Toilet Paper - Again? Stocking Up?

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Nov 28, 2020 20:16:05 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 28, 2020 19:47:32 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I’ve said at least once since the spring that it’s funny how the low paid, busy bee workers that so many people look down their noses at, are so important now, to keep the country running. Many of the higher paid workers were and are able to limit their exposure by working from home, but they were only able to make that work because worker bees across the nation were out there putting themselves at risk by going to work, making and moving products and providing necessary services like deliveries.

I honestly think that they are the unsung heroes during this pandemic. Most of us have enough common sense to recognize the contributions of our health care workers and appreciate them, and I'm not trying to take anything from them. I just hope that people have gained a new appreciation for all the people behind the scenes that have to leave the safety of their homes and go to work, sometimes at jobs that barely pay enough to live on, to enable the people that CAN work from home to have what they need.... delivered to their doorstep if they want. And maybe we should stop looking down on them and thinking they are lazy underachievers or whatever.

Agreed with you. Our world would be in a world of hurt without the essential “worker bees”. My husband owns a bread route (they deliver to various grocery stores) so he is one of the worker bees. In fact, this spring was his busiest time ever. I’m not sure what everyone did with all the bread they bought!lol. I think society has realized the contribution added by the worker bees. Lord knows it wasn’t the accountants, attorneys or engineers who kept this country running

I truly hope society has realized that, but I get disheartened when I see how some members of society treat employees that politely ask them to wear a mask.

And I guess it’s a subject I feel strongly about because I am one of the *behind the scenes* essential employees, and I truly believe that the work I and my coworkers across the nation do is very important in times like these. I probably should have included that disclaimer in my comment, my bad.

[NastyWoman]

Nov 28, 2020 18:42:02 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 28, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

But if everyone stayed home, we would all be screwed. There are more essential employees than just healthcare and grocery stores. Hell, how many non-healthcare employees are needed to run a hospital, doctors office, etc?

I used to work for a gas/propane/oil company. They are an essential business because plenty of people on my area have propane/oil heat, and they supplied gas to gas stations.

I have two dogs with health issues. We can’t feed either of them food from Walmart so for us, Chewy/Amazon is essential

If we all want food to eat, farmers and meat packing plants need to be open. But we also need packaging manufacturers to make the packaging, bakers to make the pre-made food we buy in grocery stores, truck drivers to deliver the food, employees to receive it, stock people to stock the shelves, people to order and cashiers to ring it up (I’m sure I forgot a lot of necessary positions).

And what do we do with all of the kids of the essential employees? They certainly shouldn’t be at the grandparents so we need daycares/baby sitters

While some on here might disagree, I believe cops to be a necessity. And ambulance/emt. 911 dispatchers.

The list goes on and on. So do you really want to shut the country down and have no one go to work?

See I read Life's post a little different. The question as to why essential workers still go to work is pretty simple and well covered in Pink's answer: they have bills to pay. But what I got from Life's post is: why the hell are we as a soiety willing to put up with idiotic assholes who put essential workers at risk because they can't be bothered to take even the most basic of precautions to protect these workers by wearing a mask. And while at it I also wonder why the hell we are prioritizing bars over schools? Using up limited testing materials so people can get on a plane to eat turkey and feel good about how "responsible" they are doing this.

Ok, that is enough riling myself up. But when this is all behind us we really need to look back and assess how the ef   we ever got here and what it really means to be part of a society. Or do we really want to go back to the law of the jungle: everything for the strong (and rich) and ef the rest? We should look at that now but the politicization of Covid has cut off that option. 

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 28, 2020 20:45:09 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Nov 28, 2020 18:42:02 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

But if everyone stayed home, we would all be screwed. There are more essential employees than just healthcare and grocery stores. Hell, how many non-healthcare employees are needed to run a hospital, doctors office, etc?

I used to work for a gas/propane/oil company. They are an essential business because plenty of people on my area have propane/oil heat, and they supplied gas to gas stations.

I have two dogs with health issues. We can’t feed either of them food from Walmart so for us, Chewy/Amazon is essential

If we all want food to eat, farmers and meat packing plants need to be open. But we also need packaging manufacturers to make the packaging, bakers to make the pre-made food we buy in grocery stores, truck drivers to deliver the food, employees to receive it, stock people to stock the shelves, people to order and cashiers to ring it up (I’m sure I forgot a lot of necessary positions).

And what do we do with all of the kids of the essential employees? They certainly shouldn’t be at the grandparents so we need daycares/baby sitters

While some on here might disagree, I believe cops to be a necessity. And ambulance/emt. 911 dispatchers.

The list goes on and on. So do you really want to shut the country down and have no one go to work?

See I read Life's post a little different. The question as to why essential workers still go to work is pretty simple and well covered in Pink's answer: they have bills to pay. But what I got from Life's post is: why the hell are we as a soiety willing to put up with idiotic assholes who put essential workers at risk because they can't be bothered to take even the most basic of precautions to protect these workers by wearing a mask. And while at it I also wonder why the hell we are prioritizing bars over schools? Using up limited testing materials so people can get on a plane to eat turkey and feel good about how "responsible" they are doing this.

Ok, that is enough riling myself up. But when this is all behind us we really need to look back and assess how the ef   we ever got here and what it really means to be part of a society. Or do we really want to go back to the law of the jungle: everything for the strong (and rich) and ef the rest? We should look at that now but the politicization of Covid has cut off that option. 

You are probably right about that post. I was more going by her collective posts that the country should be shut down.

I’m 100% on board with refusing business to anyone not wearing a mask. Unfortunately, businesses won’t do it because it puts their employees at risk.

[Tiny]

Nov 28, 2020 20:45:09 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Nov 28, 2020 18:42:02 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

But if everyone stayed home, we would all be screwed. There are more essential employees than just healthcare and grocery stores. Hell, how many non-healthcare employees are needed to run a hospital, doctors office, etc?

I used to work for a gas/propane/oil company. They are an essential business because plenty of people on my area have propane/oil heat, and they supplied gas to gas stations.

I have two dogs with health issues. We can’t feed either of them food from Walmart so for us, Chewy/Amazon is essential

If we all want food to eat, farmers and meat packing plants need to be open. But we also need packaging manufacturers to make the packaging, bakers to make the pre-made food we buy in grocery stores, truck drivers to deliver the food, employees to receive it, stock people to stock the shelves, people to order and cashiers to ring it up (I’m sure I forgot a lot of necessary positions).

And what do we do with all of the kids of the essential employees? They certainly shouldn’t be at the grandparents so we need daycares/baby sitters

While some on here might disagree, I believe cops to be a necessity. And ambulance/emt. 911 dispatchers.

The list goes on and on. So do you really want to shut the country down and have no one go to work?

See I read Life's post a little different. The question as to why essential workers still go to work is pretty simple and well covered in Pink's answer: they have bills to pay. But what I got from Life's post is: why the hell are we as a soiety willing to put up with idiotic assholes who put essential workers at risk because they can't be bothered to take even the most basic of precautions to protect these workers by wearing a mask. And while at it I also wonder why the hell we are prioritizing bars over schools? Using up limited testing materials so people can get on a plane to eat turkey and feel good about how "responsible" they are doing this.

Ok, that is enough riling myself up. But when this is all behind us we really need to look back and assess how the ef   we ever got here and what it really means to be part of a society. Or do we really want to go back to the law of the jungle: everything for the strong (and rich) and ef the rest? We should look at that now but the politicization of Covid has cut off that option. 

I read the post as meaning if everyone had done their part to NOT spread the virus - then the essential workers would be at a little bit less risk.  (and I'm willing to bet we wouldn't be looking at the high number of cases and deaths right now.  And that more of the worker bees whose employers closed their doors - might be able to go back to work. ) 

A long time ago I learned that sometimes "staying out of the way" was the BEST way to help the people who are doing the work. Wearing a mask and social distancing and not doing things with groups of people (outside my household) is the only way I can actually help essential workers (and help protect their families and loved ones). In other words - stay out of the way of the people doing "essential" work.    I'm pretty good at being helpful by "staying out of the way".   I wish other people were better at it.

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Nov 28, 2020 20:45:09 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Nov 28, 2020 18:42:02 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

But if everyone stayed home, we would all be screwed. There are more essential employees than just healthcare and grocery stores. Hell, how many non-healthcare employees are needed to run a hospital, doctors office, etc?

I used to work for a gas/propane/oil company. They are an essential business because plenty of people on my area have propane/oil heat, and they supplied gas to gas stations.

I have two dogs with health issues. We can’t feed either of them food from Walmart so for us, Chewy/Amazon is essential

If we all want food to eat, farmers and meat packing plants need to be open. But we also need packaging manufacturers to make the packaging, bakers to make the pre-made food we buy in grocery stores, truck drivers to deliver the food, employees to receive it, stock people to stock the shelves, people to order and cashiers to ring it up (I’m sure I forgot a lot of necessary positions).

And what do we do with all of the kids of the essential employees? They certainly shouldn’t be at the grandparents so we need daycares/baby sitters

While some on here might disagree, I believe cops to be a necessity. And ambulance/emt. 911 dispatchers.

The list goes on and on. So do you really want to shut the country down and have no one go to work?

See I read Life's post a little different. The question as to why essential workers still go to work is pretty simple and well covered in Pink's answer: they have bills to pay. But what I got from Life's post is: why the hell are we as a soiety willing to put up with idiotic assholes who put essential workers at risk because they can't be bothered to take even the most basic of precautions to protect these workers by wearing a mask. And while at it I also wonder why the hell we are prioritizing bars over schools? Using up limited testing materials so people can get on a plane to eat turkey and feel good about how "responsible" they are doing this.

Ok, that is enough riling myself up. But when this is all behind us we really need to look back and assess how the ef   we ever got here and what it really means to be part of a society. Or do we really want to go back to the law of the jungle: everything for the strong (and rich) and ef the rest? We should look at that now but the politicization of Covid has cut off that option.

My post had nothing to do with shutting down the country.

My point was eventually enough people get sick that society doesn't just function as normal. Truck drivers get sick, essential workers get sick, people (shoppers, workers who aren't desperate for a paycheck, etc...) get tired of being exposed and just stay home.

The question I was answering was how much to stock up on.

My answer is assuming we stay on this current trajectory, society won't keep chugging along. For that time is when one stocks up. 

I happen to think that will be Dec to March or April. So, I stock up accordingly.

On the other point, I think there are a lot of "essential" workers who aren't actually essential. And, since the outbreak here started in the elementary school, I still have the opinion schools should be closed. Ours are only open due to a "waiver" because our testing is too high otherwise.

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Nov 28, 2020 20:55:00 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 28, 2020 20:45:09 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

You are probably right about that post. I was more going by her collective posts that the country should be shut down.

I’m 100% on board with refusing business to anyone not wearing a mask. Unfortunately, businesses won’t do it because it puts their employees at risk.

Leave everything open. See how well it's working?

3,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Christmas.

4,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Feb.

We have 92,000 Americans currently in hospitals and that figure is going up exponentially.

Working great. 

BTW, the more healthcare workers that die, the harder it's going to be to get care. I think the last count was over 2,000 so far.

The more Americans who get sick, the more people who can't work.

The more Americans that get long-hauler COVID, the more SSDI, SSI and other disability services will be needed. 

But, keep everything open and force low income people to work. And, those currently in the bread lines, sorry it's going to be a long while before the situation changes. 

Everyone - gather in church and sing together. No masks required.

Why? Because Americans seem to only give a shit about themselves and money.

So, here we are and here we will stay until the magical shots arrive. That will be soon - well, except it probably won't be for most people.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 28, 2020 21:44:06 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Nov 28, 2020 20:55:00 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

You are probably right about that post. I was more going by her collective posts that the country should be shut down.

I’m 100% on board with refusing business to anyone not wearing a mask. Unfortunately, businesses won’t do it because it puts their employees at risk.

Leave everything open. See how well it's working?

3,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Christmas.

4,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Feb.

We have 92,000 Americans currently in hospitals and that figure is going up exponentially.

Working great. 

BTW, the more healthcare workers that die, the harder it's going to be to get care. I think the last count was over 2,000 so far.

The more Americans who get sick, the more people who can't work.

The more Americans that get long-hauler COVID, the more SSDI, SSI and other disability services will be needed. 

But, keep everything open and force low income people to work. And, those currently in the bread lines, sorry it's going to be a long while before the situation changes. 

Everyone - gather in church and sing together. No masks required.

Why? Because Americans seem to only give a shit about themselves and money.

So, here we are and here we will stay until the magical shots arrive. That will be soon - well, except it probably won't be for most people.

Are you going to grow your own food, make your own medicine, Fix your power lines if they go out, milk your own cows, and so on and so on.

Our issue is that people aren’t following the rules. How many people just got together for thanksgiving? How many people are going to house parties because bars are closed? Shutting down the country isn’t going to stop. If it did, it would have ended when we were shut down this spring.

[NastyWoman]

Nov 28, 2020 21:44:06 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Nov 28, 2020 20:55:00 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

You are probably right about that post. I was more going by her collective posts that the country should be shut down.

I’m 100% on board with refusing business to anyone not wearing a mask. Unfortunately, businesses won’t do it because it puts their employees at risk.

Leave everything open. See how well it's working?

3,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Christmas.

4,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Feb.

We have 92,000 Americans currently in hospitals and that figure is going up exponentially.

Working great. 

BTW, the more healthcare workers that die, the harder it's going to be to get care. I think the last count was over 2,000 so far.

The more Americans who get sick, the more people who can't work.

The more Americans that get long-hauler COVID, the more SSDI, SSI and other disability services will be needed. 

But, keep everything open and force low income people to work. And, those currently in the bread lines, sorry it's going to be a long while before the situation changes. 

Everyone - gather in church and sing together. No masks required.

Why? Because Americans seem to only give a shit about themselves and money.

So, here we are and here we will stay until the magical shots arrive. That will be soon - well, except it probably won't be for most people.

You two are very good at going of extremes that were actually not said. Ms. Tequila never said that we should keep everything open, just like you did not claim that we need to shut down 100%. What both of you say though is that our current situation is not sustainable and we need to look for change that will give us the best result, out of all possible oucomes. We actively need to choose the one that has the least negative impact

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The least negative impact on who?

Or, do you mean the stock market - where the wealthy people make their money? 

People who are poor are currently screwed. Those with means or better jobs for the most part aren't. 

Since people have had months to cooperate all on their own but refuse, perhaps it's time to try another tactic? Perhaps we try the tactic that's worked in other countries? 

No, instead, we keep everything open, make poor people go to work, starve and evict a large chunk of our population, and we keep Dollar Tree open because selling 1$ Chinese-made crap is valued more than minimum wage workers' lives.

Oh, and we keep bars open, because being an alcoholic is essential.

Meanwhile, our hospitals are becoming overrun. But, let's all go to church and the bar and screw the doctor or nurse who might have to risk their lives.

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Nov 28, 2020 21:57:58 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Nov 28, 2020 21:44:06 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Leave everything open. See how well it's working?

3,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Christmas.

4,000 Americans will die every.single.day by Feb.

We have 92,000 Americans currently in hospitals and that figure is going up exponentially.

Working great. 

BTW, the more healthcare workers that die, the harder it's going to be to get care. I think the last count was over 2,000 so far.

The more Americans who get sick, the more people who can't work.

The more Americans that get long-hauler COVID, the more SSDI, SSI and other disability services will be needed. 

But, keep everything open and force low income people to work. And, those currently in the bread lines, sorry it's going to be a long while before the situation changes. 

Everyone - gather in church and sing together. No masks required.

Why? Because Americans seem to only give a shit about themselves and money.

So, here we are and here we will stay until the magical shots arrive. That will be soon - well, except it probably won't be for most people.

Are you going to grow your own food, make your own medicine, Fix your power lines if they go out, milk your own cows, and so on and so on.

Our issue is that people aren’t following the rules. How many people just got together for thanksgiving? How many people are going to house parties because bars are closed? Shutting down the country isn’t going to stop. If it did, it would have ended when we were shut down this spring.

I think part of the problem in the spring was that we weren’t all on the same page. The rules differed between states, and even between  counties in the same state. I’m no expert on anything related to this, but I think it would’ve helped more if we had all done the same thing, at the same time, all across the nation. 

I know that where I live, when we first got SIP orders, there were a LOT less cars out on my drive to work and back home. I think that a lot of people that are asses about it now, cooperated back then because it was all still new. Not all of them, but at least some, and maybe that “some” would have been enough to help make a difference back then if it had been a true nationwide thing.

[Miss Tequila]

Nov 28, 2020 22:22:51 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

The least negative impact on who?

Or, do you mean the stock market - where the wealthy people make their money? 

People who are poor are currently screwed. Those with means or better jobs for the most part aren't. 

Since people have had months to cooperate all on their own but refuse, perhaps it's time to try another tactic? Perhaps we try the tactic that's worked in other countries? 

No, instead, we keep everything open, make poor people go to work, starve and evict a large chunk of our population, and we keep Dollar Tree open because selling 1$ Chinese-made crap is valued more than minimum wage workers' lives.

Oh, and we keep bars open, because being an alcoholic is essential.

Meanwhile, our hospitals are becoming overrun. But, let's all go to church and the bar and screw the doctor or nurse who might have to risk their lives.

The part you aren’t getting is that people are going to do what people want to do. In my state, bars aren’t open. You can’t sit at a bar to get drinks. You have to be seated at a table and the tables have to be 6 feet apart. Food must be ordered to purchase alcohol and you have a window of time to sit there (I think it is 90 minutes).

Because people can’t go to bars, they are now having house parties. I read an article (I will have to see if I can find it) that said Covid cases are spiking due to small parties. I’ve seen it with people that I know or know of. A guy I used to work with had a 50th birthday at his house. 23 of the 33 guests got Covid. A friend of a friend had a wedding reception in someone yard (the reception venue was severely limited by the governor so they moved it to a backyard) and 12 people gor Covid.

I definitely agree about the bars not being open. People make very bad decisions when alcohol is around. But closing stores is not going to stop this thing. People are being idiots and causing the spread. And unless we want to become like China, I do not see how we can truly stop people from hosting house parties

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I completely understand this is a person problem. 

At this point, it's every person for themselves. We've come to that place.

However, that doesn't negate the issue that those who choose to carry on with life as usual and ignore COVID are killing/sickening others who are being economically forced to be around them.

[Deleted]

Honestly, while I'll advocate all day for the impoverished who are struggling and forced to work regardless of risk, getting their food from food banks with insane lines, and can't pay their rent, it doesn't affect me.

It will affect many once those folks all get evicted. You think crime is bad now, just wait.

I do hate that my son is subjected to it every day. I hate that his GF is as well. And, neither have nor can afford health insurance of any kind.

And, I hate going to the grocery store and seeing unmasked people who think they are special getting in the faces of those who are making an effort to actively avoid COVID.

My life now, and for the foreseeable future, is spending time in the wilderness and shopping online. We get our mail at night when no one else is at the post office. My risk right now is as close to zero as possible. And, it will stay that way as long as necessary.

[daisylu]

Nov 28, 2020 15:14:07 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Nov 28, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

We've reached the point where the National Guard is needed to process the dead and military healthcare workers are filling in where hospitals don't have enough staff.

My state is starting to bring in mobile morgues because they foresee what's coming. Multiple states are building mobile hospitals.

What's "enough" for supplies?

I think the answer to that is people should be able to somewhat comfortably stay at home for an extended period of time to avoid infection or injury when there are no/very limited healthcare resources.

I still wonder how we keep infecting people at this rate and yet truck drivers still drive, "essential workers" are still willing to go to work around unmasked idiots, etc... 

At some point, the pandemic gets bad enough society stops functioning as it has. And, the government isn't coming to bring you food and toilet paper...

I do find it sort of funny that people will buy 1001 rolls of TP but then think buying 5 frozen pizzas and some rice are preparing...

Truck drivers and essential workers are still driving and working because they have bills to pay. I’m an essential employee and I’ve wished countless times since spring that I could avoid going to work until all of this was over and still take care of my responsibilities and maintain my lifestyle. I’m sure I’m not the only essential employee that has had those thoughts. Unfortunately, for most of us, we need the income we get from jobs that require us to be physically present.

I get a little angry on behalf of the essential employees that have to deal with the general public and encounter people that refuse to wear masks and people that get ugly with the employees when they are politely reminded that masks are required. I wish there were some way to protect those employees, but the only thing I can think of is for every business that’s open to the public to have security present to enforce the rules.

Last week I stopped at a gas station and forgot my mask when I went inside. I didn’t realize it until I got back to my car and saw my mask. That’s the 2nd time I’ve done that, the first was a quick run inside the grocery store. Both times I felt bad when I realized what I’d done. I wouldn’t have gotten upset at all if an employee had reminded me. If I got irritated, it would’ve been with myself for forgetting in the first place and having to walk all the way back to my car. You’d think I would remember by now, but I can’t say how many times I’ll get to the door, and have to go back to my car. I bought 3 boxes of 50 disposable masks and put a box in each vehicle that we drive regularly, so we’ll always have 1 if we forget to bring one from home. Maybe I should put 1 in a baggie to keep in my purse too.

I started buying masks that hang around my neck. You can also buy chains or lanyards that clip onto masks:  link

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The manager of the my Aldi said they haven't been able to get cat litter of any sort in 3 months    WTH is that about?

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Dec 1, 2020 11:55:24 GMT -5 @donethat said:

The manager of the my Aldi said they haven't been able to get cat litter of any sort in 3 months    WTH is that about?

I did a Google and it appears there was a shortage earlier in the year due to a manufacturer closing. Didn't see anything recent.

However, I know my "discount grocer" has had trouble stocking dog food and things like cookies, baking mixes, etc... since this started. They also can't get Epsom salt anymore for some reason. I assume places like Walmart are hoarding up as much of the supply as possible. 

I had to switch dog foods because I couldn't find Blue Buffalo discounted anymore and it's too expensive to buy online or from a pet store. I was buying it for about 1/2 the online price, but my stockpile ran out. 

[daisylu]

Prices are getting ridiculous. I was able to locate Cottonelle TP and Lysol in my area for the first time in months. At a major grocery store, Cottonelle was $7.99 for 4 rolls, Lysol was $6.49 for a 12oz can. 

Our grocery store options are Martin's, Walmart, Target, Aldi, and Sharp Shopper. 

We have always stayed brand specific for TP, but there is no way I am paying $2 for a roll of it.




After some research, I was able to find 12 packs of Cottonelle at Walgreens for $9.99/Each or 2 for $16.00. 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Cat litter has been sketchy at Costco the last 8 months.  We had a decent stash of it that I have used the last year, and were down to 2 bags.  We bought another 3 the last trip when it was in, and on sale for a few $$ off.  So we are good.

I think pre covid, we bought on sale but as we were doing more traveling (2019 we were gone a total of over 3 months) and Sheldon was pooping in the kennel’s litter box, not his.

[Lizard Queen]

This is probably really bad, but way back when I was a kid, we'd use beach sand in the litter box. It's free and easy to find here. People who live across the street from the beach practically beg people to take it, as it's constantly blowing onto their front yards.

[Iggy aka IG]

DH went to Walmart Monday and reported there were just three brands of TP on the shelf:  The store brand, Angel Soft, and Bounty.  One wonders if the latter would feel like a paper towel?  

[TheOtherMe]

If shipping wasn't so expensive,  I still have 30 pounds of cat litter leftover from Lucy Cat

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I personally have plenty of cat litter which I buy in huge jugs at PetSmart, but I found it odd that a major chain had been out for 3 months, both clumping and non-clumping.  I'm guessing they lost their manufacturer.  We use clumping, but always have a bag of cheap non-clumping clay litter to soak up any oil drips or other liquid messes.  

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Dec 1, 2020 15:19:01 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

This is probably really bad, but way back when I was a kid, we'd use beach sand in the litter box. It's free and easy to find here. People who live across the street from the beach practically beg people to take it, as it's constantly blowing onto their front yards.

In the severe poverty days, I filled mine with the dirt on my property. We lived in the high desert and it was sort of sand/dirt/ash. It wasn't ideal, but it worked and the cat box was in a mud room so not exactly "in" the house. 

I should find some cat litter and stock up. We have a kitten and I like to use cat litter in my buckolet when I camp.

[Tiny]

Just an aside about the kitty litter.... typically I stock up on "Black Friday" as the local Petsmarts will have an awesome sale (since the bucket is currently 16.99 - I would expect a sale price of 11.99 or lower) with pallets of the different varieties of "Tidy Cat" set up.   Most years I get 8 to 10 buckets for me and 4 to 6 for a friend.  I make a couple of 'litter runs' so as not to overload my car.   This year - the sale was on an off brand of litter and I'm guessing they only had 10 buckets available - there were no pallets of anything in the aisles at the 3 petsmarts I stopped in at (on black friday before 11am).  I came home with no litter. 

I've been watching the prices on litter on line since October 1st - and Tidy Cat has consistently been $15.00 or higher.   I did get a coupon buy one get one 1/2 off - which I used mid October when the price was down to $15.  .  I bought 2 more buckets at the $15 price and use my 'rewards' to lower the price.    
The only "bright spot" is that back in September Meijer's had 35 pound buckets of their "house brand" litter on sale for $8.00  I tried it and my cats were ok with it.   I got 6 buckets at the $8 each price and then I scored 2 buckets at $6 each.    

I've also not seen the pallets of kitty litter in the Aisle at petsmart since the early summer.    My friend put forth the idea that maybe everyone was ordering it for delivery.  Don't know.   

I'm still watching for a sale on Litter and hopefully there will be a sale.  In the meantime - the cats have litter until spring time.    (I've got 2 elderly not in the best of health cats and they use the boxes ALOT so I'm going thru more litter than when they were younger). 

[Tennesseer]

Thank you all for the cat litter scarcity scare. I have four litter boxes in the house with one needing new litter three times a week (three senior sisters).

Just ordered six 35lb. pails of Tidy Cat from Chewy. I normally buy the 20lb. bags locally.

Pails can be safely stored in the garage without the garage cats bothering it.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

I normally use Fresh Step from Costco.  I think the sale price is $11 for 42#, regularly $16.  It takes me about 6 weeks to go through that much litter, but I have only one cat (not that I’ve not tried to get more).  

[Tennesseer]

Dec 1, 2020 22:43:24 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

I normally use Fresh Step from Costco.  I think the sale price is $11 for 42#, regularly $16.  It takes me about 6 weeks to go through that much litter, but I have only one cat (not that I’ve not tried to get more).  

Feel free to take the mother and her three 8-month-old kids I took in when the youngsters were one hour old. They were born in my garage. The three senior sisters would like to see them all gone.

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I'm considering giving multi-packs of TP as Christmas gifts. Would that be tacky or trendy?

[imawino]

Dec 1, 2020 22:49:52 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 1, 2020 22:43:24 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

I normally use Fresh Step from Costco.  I think the sale price is $11 for 42#, regularly $16.  It takes me about 6 weeks to go through that much litter, but I have only one cat (not that I’ve not tried to get more).  

Feel free to take the mother and her three 8-month-old kids I took in when the youngsters were one hour old. They were born in my garage. The three senior sisters would like to see them all gone.

awwwww, Tenn....you're a softie!  Are they still babies?

[Tennesseer]

Dec 2, 2020 8:27:35 GMT -5 imawino said:

Dec 1, 2020 22:49:52 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feel free to take the mother and her three 8-month-old kids I took in when the youngsters were one hour old. They were born in my garage. The three senior sisters would like to see them all gone.

awwwww, Tenn....you're a softie!  Are they still babies?

They are teen-age terrors. The three senior sister cats are afraid of them so every group is locked up in a bedroom for 12 shifts. That way each group has run of the house for 12 hours.

The litter and mom only ended up in the house because the cats who live, eat, sleep full-time in the garage won't enter the garage if they hear kittens. As the litter was born in February, winter was still here and the regular residents of the garage would have been out in the elements 24/7.