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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 9:53:09 GMT -5
I know I'm getting spin on opinion pieces, but when I see and hear it from his mouth it's not fake media. He can deny or spin it all he wants later. Just makes him look like the unqualified POtuS he is. Which is just your opinion. Vote for whoever you wish, I won't hold it against you. And you won't see me making up bs, personally attacking you, because of your selection. We have trolls for that.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Apr 27, 2020 10:05:38 GMT -5
Yes we won't hold our opinions against each other. But trump sometimes denying what he says is a fact, not opinion. Whether he realizes it or not is an opinion. My opinion is that he is unfit to be president.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 27, 2020 10:41:18 GMT -5
I'm guessing people arguing this haven't seen the video or read the transcript...because what was actually said is a total nothing. "So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful." He didn't say inject disinfectant, he didn't even say they're GOING to check on that, he said it would be interesting if there is "a way you do something LIKE THAT by injection". Trump says so much to legitimately get upset or offended by...people just making things up in order to find offense don't do anything but show other people they aren't even interested in the truth or common sense. It's not a good enough argument that "neither is Trump". All that does is make your ignorance level equal to his...which i can't imagine is what anyone thinks is a compliment. That's the other piece that always KIND OF surprises me. People think Trump is an idiot...and rightly so. And then they get caught doing something dumb and the response is "but Trump does that". Congratulations, you're as smart as Trump is. Maybe that's my new insult "You've got the same intelligence level as the President". This guy has been president for more than 3 years. He hasn't caught on that his words matter. And he should chose them carefully. He should make sure that his thoughts are clear and the words represent the true message. He should have learned this by now. He either isn't bright enough to make the change, or he just doesn't care about the American people. P.S. I watched the entire video twice. What he said was irresponsible.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 10:47:02 GMT -5
I'm guessing people arguing this haven't seen the video or read the transcript...because what was actually said is a total nothing. "So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful." He didn't say inject disinfectant, he didn't even say they're GOING to check on that, he said it would be interesting if there is "a way you do something LIKE THAT by injection". Trump says so much to legitimately get upset or offended by...people just making things up in order to find offense don't do anything but show other people they aren't even interested in the truth or common sense. It's not a good enough argument that "neither is Trump". All that does is make your ignorance level equal to his...which i can't imagine is what anyone thinks is a compliment. That's the other piece that always KIND OF surprises me. People think Trump is an idiot...and rightly so. And then they get caught doing something dumb and the response is "but Trump does that". Congratulations, you're as smart as Trump is. Maybe that's my new insult "You've got the same intelligence level as the President". This guy has been president for more than 3 years. He hasn't caught on that his words matter. And he should chose them carefully. He should make sure that his thoughts are clear and the words represent the true message. He should have learned this by now. He either isn't bright enough to make the change, or he just doesn't care about the American people. His words represent what I think is probably his exact true message. He wants to look into something like that. If you're suggesting that he should say things differently knowing that people will take what he says and twist it...then yeah...he should be more political because that's how good politicians operate. Personally, I don't hold people responsible for being honest just because someone else might attempt to twist it into something else. Frankly, I'm happy to hear Trump saying things that sound honest, it's a welcome break from what he usually says.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 27, 2020 10:57:46 GMT -5
This guy has been president for more than 3 years. He hasn't caught on that his words matter. And he should chose them carefully. He should make sure that his thoughts are clear and the words represent the true message. He should have learned this by now. He either isn't bright enough to make the change, or he just doesn't care about the American people. His words represent what I think is probably his exact true message. He wants to look into something like that. If you're suggesting that he should say things differently knowing that people will take what he says and twist it...then yeah...he should be more political because that's how good politicians operate. Personally, I don't hold people responsible for being honest just because someone else might attempt to twist it into something else. Frankly, I'm happy to hear Trump saying things that sound honest, it's a welcome break from what he usually says. Asking scientists to "look into something" is a conversation that should be held NOT at a national press conference. If it was a true request the proper way would be to sit with a panel of experts and say "So, they are using disinfectant and UV lights to kill this - talk to me about how we can move that knowledge from a hard surface application to use in a human. Are there any current methods that 'kill' bacteria or viruses that could be adapted?" Asking your scientists if that is possible without any warning in front of a dozen reporters and live television when they had no forum to answer him, or consider a responsible answer is insane. He was irresponsible- no matter how you justify his words.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 11:03:27 GMT -5
His words represent what I think is probably his exact true message. He wants to look into something like that. If you're suggesting that he should say things differently knowing that people will take what he says and twist it...then yeah...he should be more political because that's how good politicians operate. Personally, I don't hold people responsible for being honest just because someone else might attempt to twist it into something else. Frankly, I'm happy to hear Trump saying things that sound honest, it's a welcome break from what he usually says. Asking scientists to "look into something" is a conversation that should be held NOT at a national press conference. If it was a true request the proper way would be to sit with a panel of experts and say "So, they are using disinfectant and UV lights to kill this - talk to me about how we can move that knowledge from a hard surface application to use in a human. Are there any current methods that 'kill' bacteria or viruses that could be adapted?" Asking your scientists if that is possible without any warning in front of a dozen reporters and live television when they had no forum to answer him, or consider a responsible answer is insane. He was irresponsible- no matter how you justify his words. He didn't ask his scientists if it was possible. I don't think you read what he said. He didn't ask them for an answer, so what forum would they have needed? I don't think honesty is ever irresponsible. That's probably where we differ. It's on people how they respond to the honesty...you aren't responsible for other people's actions just because you tell them the truth. What harm do you think was caused exactly by someone going directly off his words?
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 11:11:38 GMT -5
I'm curious what people find the harm to be. I'm not arguing "that was precisely the best place to say it". So far all I've heard on the "harm" is "what if someone took the thing he said and then put the words in a completely different order and took some words out and added some others and made the phrase mean something totally different and then acted on that totally different thing he didn't actually say"? That pretty much applies to anything anyone ever says.
So far it seems to boil down to people feeling obligated to get worked up anytime he speaks, regardless of how much they have to stretch and twist to find something to be offended by. I say pace yourselves, he'll say something actually wrong soon enough again.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2020 12:35:57 GMT -5
... I don't think you read what he said. ... i.e. "The only way you can disagree with my assessment is through ignorance."
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 13:18:53 GMT -5
... I don't think you read what he said. ... i.e. "The only way you can disagree with my assessment is through ignorance." The only way you can disagree on what words he used when the words are right there in front of you are through either ignorance, horrific reading comprehension, failure to read it to begin with, or flat out lying. Here's the part about the disinfectant piece again: "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning." He did not ask scientists if it was possible on the spot and he did not ask scientists to look into it. My "assessment" is that he said the words that he said. So yes, if you disagree then you fall into one of the 4 categories above. It is impossible for someone to argue that a thing is not the thing that it is. "The words he said are the words he said"...it's pretty airtight and typically not even worth pointing out because most people tend to be smart enough to understand perhaps the most basic logical argument of all time. It takes a special kind of zealot to argue that the words he said are not the words he said. I tend to hope that it's ignorance rather than outright intentionally lying...but I won't rule options out.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2020 13:24:50 GMT -5
i.e. "The only way you can disagree with my assessment is through ignorance." The only way you can disagree on what words he used when the words are right there in front of you are through either ignorance, horrific reading comprehension, failure to read it to begin with, or flat out lying. Here's the part about the disinfectant piece again: "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning." He did not ask scientists if it was possible on the spot and he did not ask scientists to look into it. My "assessment" is that he said the words that he said. So yes, if you disagree then you fall into one of the 4 categories above. It is impossible for someone to argue that a thing is not the thing that it is. "The words he said are the words he said"...it's pretty airtight and typically not even worth pointing out because most people tend to be smart enough to understand perhaps the most basic logical argument of all time. It takes a special kind of zealot to argue that the words he said are not the words he said. I tend to hope that it's ignorance rather than outright intentionally lying...but I won't rule options out. Here is my assessment that I posted earlier: And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning.The topic of this sentence Is disinfectant. It talks about how it is currently used. Then it talks about how it might be used.
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Post by swamp on Apr 27, 2020 13:27:25 GMT -5
You can't take a few sentences, you need the whole statement.
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
Hoops said, "He did not ask scientists if it was possible on the spot and he did not ask scientists to look into it."
What was he asking?
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 13:30:47 GMT -5
You can't take a few sentences, you need the whole statement. "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. ( To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?" "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." Hoops said, "He did not ask scientists if it was possible on the spot and he did not ask scientists to look into it." What was he asking? He asked them to look into the light stuff, pretty clearly. But the discussion here wasn't the light stuff, it was the disinfectant stuff. I haven't said anything about him not asking scientists to test the light stuff out.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2020 13:31:40 GMT -5
You can't take a few sentences, you need the whole statement. "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. ( To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?" "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." Hoops said, "He did not ask scientists if it was possible on the spot and he did not ask scientists to look into it." What was he asking? The President of the United States is kinda like a Mom. When she said, "The trash smells like it needs to be emptied", we emptied the trash.
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Post by swamp on Apr 27, 2020 13:36:39 GMT -5
You can't take a few sentences, you need the whole statement. "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. ( To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?" "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." Hoops said, "He did not ask scientists if it was possible on the spot and he did not ask scientists to look into it." What was he asking? He asked them to look into the light stuff, pretty clearly. But the discussion here wasn't the light stuff, it was the disinfectant stuff. I haven't said anything about him not asking scientists to test the light stuff out. taking the statement about disinfectants in context with the whole statement including UV light, to me, it seems like he was implying the scientists should test the disinfectant too. you are correct, he did not say it outright, but the implication is there. Words matter. He doesn't get that. ETA: I don't think I'm an ignorant zealot, and I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you don't think I am either. Reasonable people can get inferences from the mish mash of shit he spews. He needs to have his brainstorms behind closed doors and not at press conferences.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 13:38:47 GMT -5
The only way you can disagree on what words he used when the words are right there in front of you are through either ignorance, horrific reading comprehension, failure to read it to begin with, or flat out lying. Here's the part about the disinfectant piece again: "And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning." He did not ask scientists if it was possible on the spot and he did not ask scientists to look into it. My "assessment" is that he said the words that he said. So yes, if you disagree then you fall into one of the 4 categories above. It is impossible for someone to argue that a thing is not the thing that it is. "The words he said are the words he said"...it's pretty airtight and typically not even worth pointing out because most people tend to be smart enough to understand perhaps the most basic logical argument of all time. It takes a special kind of zealot to argue that the words he said are not the words he said. I tend to hope that it's ignorance rather than outright intentionally lying...but I won't rule options out. Here is my assessment that I posted earlier: And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning.The topic of this sentence Is disinfectant. It talks about how it is currently used. Then it talks about how it might be used.Yes, the topic of the sentence is disinfectant...and how it knocks it out in one minute, and if there is a way you can do something LIKE THAT. I think you can disagree in your assessment of what that MEANT, you cannot reasonably disagree with the post you just quoted talking about ignorance and assessment though...that was me quoting someone who said he said something completely different. There's interpretation about what he meant, and there's just claiming the words he said are different than what they were. You're essentially saying "like that" means "take the precise thing, and use it in a different way". I'm leaving room for that to have meant "use something like that, but not the precise thing" as the reason for "like that". When you use words such as "like that"...there are many interpretations it could take. For all I know he meant "take a disinfectant wipe, cut yourself open, and clean your insides". I don't think he did, but using that kind of wording I think makes it difficult to say "he definitely meant this thing".
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 13:47:37 GMT -5
He asked them to look into the light stuff, pretty clearly. But the discussion here wasn't the light stuff, it was the disinfectant stuff. I haven't said anything about him not asking scientists to test the light stuff out. taking the statement about disinfectants in context with the whole statement including UV light, to me, it seems like he was implying the scientists should test the disinfectant too. you are correct, he did not say it outright, but the implication is there. Words matter. He doesn't get that. ETA: I don't think I'm an ignorant zealot, and I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you don't think I am either. Reasonable people can get inferences from the mish mash of shit he spews. He needs to have his brainstorms behind closed doors and not at press conferences. That's the difference between "he didn't say that, but I think it was confusing at best" and "he said this thing that he never actually said". But also the point is precisely that he spews a ton of nonsense, or sometimes worse-things that are dangerous to say. And people have just become accustomed to saying "what he did say? Ok now what's the worst possible interpretation of that? Ok, that's the new standin for what he said" and treat it as if he actually said it. And so I'm backing it up levels upon levels. It started with how it's dangerous because people see Trump saying to inject disinfectant, so now they're going to do it. So you point out he didn't say that. Then someone says "well he said this though" and nope, he didn't even say that actually. It's almost like a game of telephone happening where it turns out the thing he said was pretty well completely nothing. People are making inferences off of their own inferences off of their own inferences. So my points are: 1. Using that criteria, nobody can ever say anything. 2. He says enough horrific stuff, that if people are getting upset when he actually doesn't say anything wrong, it simply waters down the reaction when he actually says something terrible. 3. He says terrible things often enough that you don't even have to worry if you're looking to be offended by him. Give it a day, or an hour, or whatever. Something else is coming.
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Post by swamp on Apr 27, 2020 13:51:37 GMT -5
taking the statement about disinfectants in context with the whole statement including UV light, to me, it seems like he was implying the scientists should test the disinfectant too. you are correct, he did not say it outright, but the implication is there. Words matter. He doesn't get that. ETA: I don't think I'm an ignorant zealot, and I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you don't think I am either. Reasonable people can get inferences from the mish mash of shit he spews. He needs to have his brainstorms behind closed doors and not at press conferences. That's the difference between "he didn't say that, but I think it was confusing at best" and "he said this thing that he never actually said". But also the point is precisely that he spews a ton of nonsense, or sometimes worse-things that are dangerous to say. And people have just become accustomed to saying "what he did say? Ok now what's the worst possible interpretation of that? Ok, that's the new standin for what he said" and treat it as if he actually said it. And so I'm backing it up levels upon levels. It started with how it's dangerous because people see Trump saying to inject disinfectant, so now they're going to do it. So you point out he didn't say that. Then someone says "well he said this though" and nope, he didn't even say that actually. It's almost like a game of telephone happening where it turns out the thing he said was pretty well completely nothing. People are making inferences off of their own inferences off of their own inferences. So my points are: 1. Using that criteria, nobody can ever say anything. 2. He says enough horrific stuff, that if people are getting upset when he actually doesn't say anything wrong, it simply waters down the reaction when he actually says something terrible. 3. He says terrible things often enough that you don't even have to worry if you're looking to be offended by him. Give it a day, or an hour, or whatever. Something else is coming. For a guy who allegedly "says it like it is," we are spending a huge amount of time debating what he meant. This is the problem, some of the most horrible things he says aren't outright, it's the implications. There are good people on both sides. he never said Nazis are good, but I certainly get the implication.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2020 13:52:03 GMT -5
Here is my assessment that I posted earlier: And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning.The topic of this sentence Is disinfectant. It talks about how it is currently used. Then it talks about how it might be used.Yes, the topic of the sentence is disinfectant...and how it knocks it out in one minute, and if there is a way you can do something LIKE THAT. ... Why do you put a period after "like that" when President Trump continued the sentence with "by injection inside"?
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 13:52:54 GMT -5
And in terms of what he should do at press conferences, I'm already on the record multiple times on the Politics board as just saying he should literally never speak again and he'd probably be regarded as a much better President. Tell someone what you want to say, let someone who understand PR/Politics write it and send it out in a press release. But that's also not a reasonable standard given reality.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 27, 2020 13:56:09 GMT -5
He asked them to look into the light stuff, pretty clearly. But the discussion here wasn't the light stuff, it was the disinfectant stuff. I haven't said anything about him not asking scientists to test the light stuff out. taking the statement about disinfectants in context with the whole statement including UV light, to me, it seems like he was implying the scientists should test the disinfectant too. you are correct, he did not say it outright, but the implication is there. Words matter. He doesn't get that. ETA: I don't think I'm an ignorant zealot, and I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you don't think I am either. Reasonable people can get inferences from the mish mash of shit he spews. He needs to have his brainstorms behind closed doors and not at press conferences. If 90% of those who listened to his press conference (and I did listen to the whole painful word salad) got the same inferences from what he said , including those idiots who believe his word as gospel, the idea that he really didn’t say what most everyone heard him say really does not hold a lot of water. I know I looked at the TV, horrified that he made that leap from solid surface disinfectant to human body. Don’t you think that the fact that there is an uptick in poison calls says this? After all, not ingesting the Lysol/bleach/other cleaning solution of choice was pounded into most of our heads at a very early age. That went along with a stove can be hot and look across the street before you cross.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 27, 2020 13:56:16 GMT -5
Yes, the topic of the sentence is disinfectant...and how it knocks it out in one minute, and if there is a way you can do something LIKE THAT. ... Why do you put a period after "like that" when President Trump continued the sentence with "by injection inside"? Because I wasn't quoting, that was the end of my sentence. I think "like that" is the critical piece there. Though the "or almost a cleaning" part could also be important to point out that he didn't say inject, he said inject or cleaning. I assume I put it there for the same reason you stopped at "by injection inside" and left out the rest...it would be silly to quote the entire press conference every time you wanted to reference a piece you wanted to highlight.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 27, 2020 14:05:31 GMT -5
"Is there a way you can do something like that..." Sounds like something where he is looking for an answer.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 27, 2020 14:35:44 GMT -5
Why do you put a period after "like that" when President Trump continued the sentence with "by injection inside"? Because I wasn't quoting, that was the end of my sentence. I think "like that" is the critical piece there. Though the "or almost a cleaning" part could also be important to point out that he didn't say inject, he said inject or cleaning. I assume I put it there for the same reason you stopped at "by injection inside" and left out the rest...it would be silly to quote the entire press conference every time you wanted to reference a piece you wanted to highlight. At least we have gotten past the "I am right and all the rest of you are wrong" phase of your posting on this situation.
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Post by swamp on Apr 27, 2020 14:38:36 GMT -5
me, Thyme, Bill, WOTP all read it the same way.
None of us are rabid left wingers.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 27, 2020 14:42:55 GMT -5
me, Thyme, Bill, WOTP all read it the same way. None of us are rabid left wingers. Add me to this list. And speaking of speaking clearly, we learn that no matter how clear you are, someone will misinterpret it and do something stupid. So, as president, it is incumbent on him to speak clearly and carefully, so some idiot doesn't take what they think he said seriously and do something that could cause serious harm
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2020 15:59:16 GMT -5
Satire from The Borowitz Report Trump Blames Plummeting Poll Numbers on People Paying Attention When He TalksBy Andy Borowitz WASHINGTON, D.C. (The Borowitz Report)—Calling it a “disgraceful situation,” Donald J. Trump on Monday blamed his sinking poll numbers on people paying attention when he talks. Noting that his approval rating has plummeted since he began holding coronavirus briefings, he said, “There are a lot of people out there who are listening to things I say and basing their opinions on them, and I think it’s very sad.” In addition to people paying attention when he talks, Trump said that he was being “treated very unfairly by people who remember what I say.” “People are listening to what I say one day and comparing it to something I said on a different day,” he said. “These are very sick and terrible people.” Trump also lashed out at the pollsters themselves, who, he alleged, are “doing a hit job on me” by seeking the opinions of people who listened to things he said. “The fact that they’re talking to people who have listened to me proves how crooked and rigged these polls are,” he said. “People who haven’t listened to me think I’m doing great.” Complete article here: Trump Blames Plummeting Poll Numbers on People Paying Attention When He Talks
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Post by teen persuasion on Apr 27, 2020 16:07:03 GMT -5
me, Thyme, Bill, WOTP all read it the same way. None of us are rabid left wingers. Add me to this list, too, please!
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Apr 27, 2020 16:31:56 GMT -5
Several years ago I kept getting head colds and sinus infections. My doctor told me to take a cold tablet at the first sign. It worked.
What worked better was controlling my allergies which helped my immune system. Flu shot. I take zinc and one airborne a day during cold/flu season. Not when I start feeling bad.
My point. No one is recommending preventive procedures like that to help fight Covid 19. I wonder if people who get the flu shot have lesser covid 19 results and symptoms than those who did not get the immunization. The statisticians will be kept busy.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 27, 2020 16:34:24 GMT -5
Several years ago I kept getting head colds and sinus infections. My doctor told me to take a cold tablet at the first sign. It worked.
What worked better was controlling my allergies which helped my immune system. Flu shot. I take zinc and one airborne a day during cold/flu season. Not when I start feeling bad.
My point. No one is recommending preventive procedures like that to help fight Covid 19. I wonder if people who get the flu shot have lesser covid 19 results and symptoms than those who did not get the immunization. The statisticians will be kept busy.
There is zero reason to believe a flu vaccine will help with COVID. Antibodies are unique and work on a specific infection. So, no it will not do anything
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