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Post by TheOtherMe on Apr 24, 2020 15:03:37 GMT -5
Today he says he was being sarcastic. That is not what it sounded like in real time.
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Post by andi9899 on Apr 24, 2020 15:07:26 GMT -5
Today he says he was being sarcastic. That is not what it sounded like in real time. He's full of it. There was no sarcasm in his voice. He legit wanted to explore this ideas. Then when everything was over and someone had to explain something that is common sense, he suddenly was being sarcastic. He can't even spell sarcasm.
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Post by teen persuasion on Apr 24, 2020 15:07:34 GMT -5
she did look suitably pained. Directly contradicting him will result in being fired or at least sidelined. I hope people are trying to stay in the game with the belief they can do more good sticking around. That said, couldn't someone have gently pointed out immediately that UV and disinfectants are intended for things and not people?
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Post by mary2029 on Apr 24, 2020 15:17:35 GMT -5
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Post by raeoflyte on Apr 24, 2020 15:22:57 GMT -5
My anti vaxxer "friend" is comparing it to vaccines and then posting light therapy treatments.
I've held off on deleting her from Facebook but I think it's time.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 24, 2020 16:15:53 GMT -5
Directly contradicting him will result in being fired or at least sidelined. I hope people are trying to stay in the game with the belief they can do more good sticking around. That said, couldn't someone have gently pointed out immediately that UV and disinfectants are intended for things and not people? Simple answer: "No." Supporting evidence: President Trump interrupts before Dr. Anthony Fauci can answer hydroxychloroquine questionAnd note in the situation yesterday how Trump cuts the guy off: www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting. ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could. THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me Official WH transcript of what he said.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 24, 2020 16:19:14 GMT -5
Columbia university has been experimenting with certain UV wavelengths that do kill the Coronavirus, airborne and on surfaces. This is nothing new for killing a virus. It works for the flu, a virus. Nice misdirection. Did he say to do it on your skin? You are far too intelligent to continue with the nonsense that you post. And, you still think Trump did a good job with this? No, I forgot, you don't think anyone could have done anything, so 50,000 and counting dead is something we need to accept. Don't worry, I do not expect an answer, or you may have blocked me.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 24, 2020 16:24:09 GMT -5
I would agree if it was, "I read it on Facebook." What I see as significant is that it wasn't simply "someone", but the President of the United States of America who said it. I think the person holding that office has a responsibility to restrain from throwing something like that out there. Throwing what out there though? If he said "eat tide pods", then yes. We should be looking into pretty much anything and everything though. Anyone who interprets "we should look into something" as "ya know, I should just do it myself" is a special kind of dumb. We should look into flying cars. Anyone who drives their car off a cliff to try to make it fly seems like a danger though. No, we should not look into to obviously stupid and dangerous idea. We, the medical community know the results of having lysol taken internally. If the statement had any validity, I might agree with it. Hydroxychloroquine is being investigated even though it likely doesn't work. We do not need to accept that every idea has merit.
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Post by oped on Apr 24, 2020 18:22:01 GMT -5
lmao... we should look in to injecting disinfectant or using it to clean the lungs?
Not only is it toxic... it demonstrates a complete and total lack of understanding of how viruses work in the body. He is an imbecile. His ideas do not deserve even the airwaves they are given.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 24, 2020 18:58:13 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't believe this is even real. There is something fundamentally wrong with this man. There are elementary age children that know injecting cleaning substances into the body is moronic.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 24, 2020 19:04:47 GMT -5
The SDS I read covered you should not ingest hand sanitizer.
The SDS for Chlorine, Ammonia and isopropyl cover in rather vivid detail what happens if you ingest, inhale or get it all over your skin.
So yeah I think it's been pretty well researched as far as what happens to a human body when exposed to these products.
SDS sheets are publicly available so you can Google this right from.the comfort of your Oval office.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 24, 2020 19:13:34 GMT -5
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 24, 2020 19:34:25 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't believe this is even real. There is something fundamentally wrong with this man. There are elementary age children that know injecting cleaning substances into the body is moronic. I dunno.....look at the number of people who chowed down on Tide pods.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 24, 2020 19:40:26 GMT -5
Honestly, I can't believe this is even real. There is something fundamentally wrong with this man. There are elementary age children that know injecting cleaning substances into the body is moronic. I dunno.....look at the number of people who chowed down on Tide pods. True...I often forget how crazy people can actually be. I'm going to go watch Elf. I feel like I need a little Christmas right now.
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Post by saveinla on Apr 24, 2020 19:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by oped on Apr 24, 2020 20:01:59 GMT -5
Finally someone appreciates it 😜
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 21:42:57 GMT -5
Oh.My.God, I am sitting here busting up. I love the "Those little bubble guys are on it too..." You can totally hear him saying it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 24, 2020 22:02:50 GMT -5
Sure, get a straw and start snorting. That will deposit the disinfectant directly into your lungs, where it can begin working faster. Do NOT use a plastic straw...that's environmentally unsound. Use a rolled-up dollar bill, SVP. Thank you. "THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 9:58:52 GMT -5
Columbia university has been experimenting with certain UV wavelengths that do kill the Coronavirus, airborne and on surfaces. This is nothing new for killing a virus. It works for the flu, a virus. We have used UV light as long as I have been working to sterilize things. This is absolutely NOTHING new. UV light kills viruses and bacteria. If you have the wavelength to sterilize, you also cause burns and skin cancer. So which of these maladies is your preference? You might want to note the first sentence in my post. Notably after the comma. ",airborne and on surfaces." Your "absolutely nothing new" seems to be a repeat of my middle sentence. What are you trying to tell me ? That as a physicist, I don't know that UV in the 280/325 nm range is damaging to your skin ? UVC is the most dangerous, 315/400 nm, but that spectrum doesn't make it to the earth surface. Unprotected arc welding is about the only usual source of that spectrum.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 25, 2020 10:58:38 GMT -5
We have used UV light as long as I have been working to sterilize things. This is absolutely NOTHING new. UV light kills viruses and bacteria. If you have the wavelength to sterilize, you also cause burns and skin cancer. So which of these maladies is your preference? You might want to note the first sentence in my post. Notably after the comma. ",airborne and on surfaces." Your "absolutely nothing new" seems to be a repeat of my middle sentence. What are you trying to tell me ? That as a physicist, I don't know that UV in the 280/325 nm range is damaging to your skin ? UVC is the most dangerous, 315/400 nm, but that spectrum doesn't make it to the earth surface. Unprotected arc welding is about the only usual source of that spectrum. Again missing or ignoring the point. If this information is so well known, the information regarding its dangers are too. So if trump doesn’t know them he is an idiot. Can’t have it both ways
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 25, 2020 22:35:29 GMT -5
Throwing what out there though? If he said "eat tide pods", then yes. We should be looking into pretty much anything and everything though. Anyone who interprets "we should look into something" as "ya know, I should just do it myself" is a special kind of dumb. We should look into flying cars. Anyone who drives their car off a cliff to try to make it fly seems like a danger though. No, we should not look into to obviously stupid and dangerous idea. We, the medical community know the results of having lysol taken internally. If the statement had any validity, I might agree with it. Hydroxychloroquine is being investigated even though it likely doesn't work. We do not need to accept that every idea has merit. Sure we should, because it is impossible to know an idea is stupid or dangerous until you've looked into it. In this case, it's a quick look, because people have already looked at it and found a conclusion.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 25, 2020 23:13:14 GMT -5
No, we should not look into to obviously stupid and dangerous idea. We, the medical community know the results of having lysol taken internally. If the statement had any validity, I might agree with it. Hydroxychloroquine is being investigated even though it likely doesn't work. We do not need to accept that every idea has merit. Sure we should, because it is impossible to know an idea is stupid or dangerous until you've looked into it. In this case, it's a quick look, because people have already looked at it and found a conclusion. I heated frozen peas in the microwave for dinner tonight all without looking at the package to see how long to heat them. How? I used prior knowledge. No look required.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 25, 2020 23:22:29 GMT -5
Sure we should, because it is impossible to know an idea is stupid or dangerous until you've looked into it. In this case, it's a quick look, because people have already looked at it and found a conclusion. I heated frozen peas in the microwave for dinner tonight all without looking at the package to see how long to heat them. How? I used prior knowledge. No look required. And in your opinion Trump has prior medical knowledge to fall back on to know things? You have the prior knowledge because you've looked into how long it takes to cook frozen peas before. You didn't just wake up one day magically knowing it.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 25, 2020 23:28:38 GMT -5
I want Trump asking as many questions and looking into as many things as humanly possible. The biggest problem with him is that he assumes he knows answers to things without doing any investigating. And then proclaims things as facts which are objectively false. The more he acknowledges he needs to look into things and question things, the better off the country will be.
Frankly I'm surprised people would rather that he simply rely on his "knowledge" of what he thinks he knows.
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Post by toomuchreality on Apr 26, 2020 2:02:45 GMT -5
Don't drink the Kool-Aid. I esp like that it says "Science Free" haha But that's a terrible picture!
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 26, 2020 4:45:40 GMT -5
I want Trump asking as many questions and looking into as many things as humanly possible. The biggest problem with him is that he assumes he knows answers to things without doing any investigating. And then proclaims things as facts which are objectively false. The more he acknowledges he needs to look into things and question things, the better off the country will be. Frankly I'm surprised people would rather that he simply rely on his "knowledge" of what he thinks he knows. I do agree with you that asking questions is good. However when you are in a position like President of the United States, the time and place you seek information is important. Having what was basically a work session on national television was what was inappropriate. All of that should have taken place beforehand.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 26, 2020 6:59:37 GMT -5
I want Trump asking as many questions and looking into as many things as humanly possible. The biggest problem with him is that he assumes he knows answers to things without doing any investigating. And then proclaims things as facts which are objectively false. The more he acknowledges he needs to look into things and question things, the better off the country will be. Frankly I'm surprised people would rather that he simply rely on his "knowledge" of what he thinks he knows. The time for these type of questions is in the briefings he is supposed to be having. That is the time for any question, no matter how stupid, should be asked. His lack of ability to sit theough them, and his disdain for expertise, is a problem for the country, u again we. When he is giving a national address, all of the musings be banned. And, I go back to his boasting, he is a smart as he claims to be, he should have the common knowledge that bleach ingestion is dangerous, and that U.V. light can cause cancer and harm your vision
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 26, 2020 8:39:01 GMT -5
I heated frozen peas in the microwave for dinner tonight all without looking at the package to see how long to heat them. How? I used prior knowledge. No look required. And in your opinion Trump has prior medical knowledge to fall back on to know things? You have the prior knowledge because you've looked into how long it takes to cook frozen peas before. You didn't just wake up one day magically knowing it. Donald Trump, seventy plus years on the planet and three plus years as President of the United States, should know to not ask for that information in public.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 26, 2020 10:00:05 GMT -5
It certainly would be nice if every politician said only the things I want them to say at the time and place I deem they should say it.
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