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Post by stillmovingforward on May 3, 2020 10:25:43 GMT -5
My opinion only. Take it for what worth.
Heck, I'm out of work, my industry is decimated, my unemployment payments haven't come through and I've been filing for weeks. I still believe in the lockdowns and very cautious re-openings. Yes, I'm going to take a very hard, possibly unrecoverable financial hit from this but my neighbors, who are mostly elderly, will live and so will my kids and I. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
I've called all my bills and explained the situation. Each place is willing to allow my bills to run late without late fees or shutoff notices. My kids are on notice that NOTHING is to be wasted. We'll make it. We may lose everything but we'll make it, alive. Scientifically speaking, it's what we have to do. We can't let fear run our decisions.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 3, 2020 11:30:21 GMT -5
My opinion only. Take it for what worth. Heck, I'm out of work, my industry is decimated, my unemployment payments haven't come through and I've been filing for weeks. I still believe in the lockdowns and very cautious re-openings. Yes, I'm going to take a very hard, possibly unrecoverable financial hit from this but my neighbors, who are mostly elderly, will live and so will my kids and I. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I've called all my bills and explained the situation. Each place is willing to allow my bills to run late without late fees or shutoff notices. My kids are on notice that NOTHING is to be wasted. We'll make it. We may lose everything but we'll make it, alive. Scientifically speaking, it's what we have to do. We can't let fear run our decisions. Thank you - and I am glad to hear that everyone is extending flexibility and no late fees right now. As they should! But nice to know they are. I think there just isn't a right way to go. But maybe definitely a few wrong ones? www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.htmlthis piece puts forth the idea that even 18 months is very optimistic for developing a vaccine. So where does that leave us - honestly - if that is the case? certain aspects of the economy are doing well - internet and delivery services for examples - and others may follow after figuring out how to field themselves in the new culture. Some aspects of the economy may be long term/permanently curtailed. Does it make sense to put lives at risk to save business that may no longer be viable? How many people are going to go back to bars/restaurants/gyms/movie theaters etc - and is that enough to keep them afloat? And what proportion of their workers are willing to come back? I think there was good news on the immunity front - but can't recall how definitive it was - if immunity is real and lasting - that is something to consider as well. But what percentage of the US has even had it? when can we get immunity testing? Isn't is worth waiting a bit more for a real plan? One that doesn't involve the expectations of a lot more people dying? So - during the great depression - the economy was completely trashed. But as long as we can stop people from starving to death or being homeless - what is the big deal about have the economy kickup with tens or hundreds of thousands of casualties? 1 - I don't get it. 2- I'm not sure it's really going to work
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 3, 2020 11:47:24 GMT -5
My opinion only. Take it for what worth. Heck, I'm out of work, my industry is decimated, my unemployment payments haven't come through and I've been filing for weeks. I still believe in the lockdowns and very cautious re-openings. Yes, I'm going to take a very hard, possibly unrecoverable financial hit from this but my neighbors, who are mostly elderly, will live and so will my kids and I. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I've called all my bills and explained the situation. Each place is willing to allow my bills to run late without late fees or shutoff notices. My kids are on notice that NOTHING is to be wasted. We'll make it. We may lose everything but we'll make it, alive. Scientifically speaking, it's what we have to do. We can't let fear run our decisions. Thank you - and I am glad to hear that everyone is extending flexibility and no late fees right now. As they should! But nice to know they are. I think there just isn't a right way to go. But maybe definitely a few wrong ones? www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.htmlthis piece puts forth the idea that even 18 months is very optimistic for developing a vaccine. So where does that leave us - honestly - if that is the case?certain aspects of the economy are doing well - internet and delivery services for examples - and others may follow after figuring out how to field themselves in the new culture. Some aspects of the economy may be long term/permanently curtailed. Does it make sense to put lives at risk to save business that may no longer be viable? How many people are going to go back to bars/restaurants/gyms/movie theaters etc - and is that enough to keep them afloat? And what proportion of their workers are willing to come back? I think there was good news on the immunity front - but can't recall how definitive it was - if immunity is real and lasting - that is something to consider as well. But what percentage of the US has even had it? when can we get immunity testing? Isn't is worth waiting a bit more for a real plan? One that doesn't involve the expectations of a lot more people dying? So - during the great depression - the economy was completely trashed. But as long as we can stop people from starving to death or being homeless - what is the big deal about have the economy kickup with tens or hundreds of thousands of casualties? 1 - I don't get it. 2- I'm not sure it's really going to work It is optimistic. However, as long as the rate of infection is controlled, they CAN started to loosen things up. Buying time allows doctors methods of figuring out how to better treat patients. More people get immune (and quite frankly, I’m not buying the ‘we don’t know if antibody confers immunity’ spiel’ because it would be the only virus -save one- that does not) and as the population gets immune, there will be the ability to loosen things up further. This is going to take time. How much time? Who knows. It ALL comes back to testing. This is not a single pronged approach, but it requires compliance across the board. It requires everyone work together for the better good, between feds and states, and within and between states themselves. We see some of this happening on a state level, but the states need the support of the feds....and a consistent message has been lacking.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 3, 2020 12:06:36 GMT -5
Thank you - and I am glad to hear that everyone is extending flexibility and no late fees right now. As they should! But nice to know they are. I think there just isn't a right way to go. But maybe definitely a few wrong ones? www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.htmlthis piece puts forth the idea that even 18 months is very optimistic for developing a vaccine. So where does that leave us - honestly - if that is the case?certain aspects of the economy are doing well - internet and delivery services for examples - and others may follow after figuring out how to field themselves in the new culture. Some aspects of the economy may be long term/permanently curtailed. Does it make sense to put lives at risk to save business that may no longer be viable? How many people are going to go back to bars/restaurants/gyms/movie theaters etc - and is that enough to keep them afloat? And what proportion of their workers are willing to come back? I think there was good news on the immunity front - but can't recall how definitive it was - if immunity is real and lasting - that is something to consider as well. But what percentage of the US has even had it? when can we get immunity testing? Isn't is worth waiting a bit more for a real plan? One that doesn't involve the expectations of a lot more people dying? So - during the great depression - the economy was completely trashed. But as long as we can stop people from starving to death or being homeless - what is the big deal about have the economy kickup with tens or hundreds of thousands of casualties? 1 - I don't get it. 2- I'm not sure it's really going to work It is optimistic. However, as long as the rate of infection is controlled, they CAN started to loosen things up. Buying time allows doctors methods of figuring out how to better treat patients. More people get immune (and quite frankly, I’m not buying the ‘we don’t know if antibody confers immunity’ spiel’ because it would be the only virus -save one- that does not) and as the population gets immune, there will be the ability to loosen things up further. This is going to take time. How much time? Who knows. It ALL comes back to testing. This is not a single pronged approach, but it requires compliance across the board. It requires everyone work together for the better good, between feds and states, and within and between states themselves. We see some of this happening on a state level, but the states need the support of the feds....and a consistent message has been lacking. This is what we as a society has lost. We need patience and the ability to work towards a common goal. We can find a way forward if we work together. But that requires ditching conspiracy theories and facing the truth. The areas relatively unaffected won’t stay that way forever. So it is to their long term benefit to get this under some degree of control now. Deciding on a way forward requires a compromise between safety and the economy. In a vacuum, we should continue our current situation until their is a vaccine. In reality, that is impossible. So, listening to the science and factoring that into how we relax restrictions is what needs to be done. That requires patience, and compliance with ongoing restrictions so we can go forward. But based on what happened in OK, we are apparently to stupid to live
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Post by movingforward on May 3, 2020 12:15:47 GMT -5
I am so completely baffled by the whole Oklahoma thing. Threatening store employees is just wrong. I don't want to wish for anyone to get the virus but if you are that stupid and unaware then...
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 3, 2020 12:35:17 GMT -5
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Post by jelloshots4all on May 3, 2020 14:47:23 GMT -5
My opinion only. Take it for what worth. Heck, I'm out of work, my industry is decimated, my unemployment payments haven't come through and I've been filing for weeks. I still believe in the lockdowns and very cautious re-openings. Yes, I'm going to take a very hard, possibly unrecoverable financial hit from this but my neighbors, who are mostly elderly, will live and so will my kids and I. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. I've called all my bills and explained the situation. Each place is willing to allow my bills to run late without late fees or shutoff notices. My kids are on notice that NOTHING is to be wasted. We'll make it. We may lose everything but we'll make it, alive. Scientifically speaking, it's what we have to do. We can't let fear run our decisions. Good luck stillmoving! I was unemployed when this started but in final rounds with 3 companies. In fact on Thurs 3/12 I had 4 interviews with 1 company as part of the final round. Then the SHIT hit the fan on 3/13. Poof! I rarely go out in public except pickups. I agree with a slow, methodical re-opening supported by SCIENCE!! My state is doing that. Golf courses with 1 person per cart (my dad was out today and they sanitized everything), pet groomers (my dog is finally going this week, but it is curbside everything), libraries with curbside pick up, etc. Those states that have reopened nail salons, clothing stores and especially tatoo parlors?? WTF!!! Who needs a FUCKING TATOO ?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 3, 2020 15:47:26 GMT -5
To be honest if I was going to go somewhere it'd be a licensed nail salon or tattoo parlor right now over Home Depot or Menards.
Nail salons and tattoo parlors already have to maintain strict health standards to stay operational and they all wear PPE. They can easily limit the number of clients at any given by only taking appointments and no walk ins.
Meanwhile while Home Depot may be limiting how many can be in the store itself and have dots on the floor which is great and all but there is a line extending nearly a block down the street waiting to get in. Every time I've driven by it looks like Black Friday at both stores.
These lines are shoulder to shoulder with the majority of people not wearing masks.
While neither nail salons or tattoo parlors are essential and we can argue all day long that Home Depot and Menard's are if we are going to go off on businesses that are a risk let's be honest with ourselves. I'm FAR more likely to catch COVID at Home Depot than I am the tattoo parlor I go to.
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Post by stillmovingforward on May 3, 2020 18:46:44 GMT -5
I HAD to go to Home Depot today for a new ignition switch for my stove. Only about a quarter of the people had masks. Interesting, most of the 'rednecks' wore masks. Most of the well dressed did not. Swap that for the grocery stores......strange....
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Post by jelloshots4all on May 3, 2020 19:03:52 GMT -5
To be honest if I was going to go somewhere it'd be a licensed nail salon or tattoo parlor right now over Home Depot or Menards. Nail salons and tattoo parlors already have to maintain strict health standards to stay operational and they all wear PPE. They can easily limit the number of clients at any given by only taking appointments and no walk ins. Meanwhile while Home Depot may be limiting how many can be in the store itself and have dots on the floor which is great and all but there is a line extending nearly a block down the street waiting to get in. Every time I've driven by it looks like Black Friday at both stores. These lines are shoulder to shoulder with the majority of people not wearing masks. While neither nail salons or tattoo parlors are essential and we can argue all day long that Home Depot and Menard's are if we are going to go off on businesses that are a risk let's be honest with ourselves. I'm FAR more likely to catch COVID at Home Depot than I am the tattoo parlor I go to. Two years ago a friend of mine went to a licensed nail salon before we went on vacation. We were in Jamaica and she ended up with a horrible toe nail infection. I went to a licensed salon in Jan, and my feet are still messed up. Just not worth it to me. Home Depot and Menards are essential to people who need to fix plumbing, a stove, etc. Go get your MAGA Trump tattoo! Have at it!!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 3, 2020 19:09:33 GMT -5
To be honest if I was going to go somewhere it'd be a licensed nail salon or tattoo parlor right now over Home Depot or Menards. Nail salons and tattoo parlors already have to maintain strict health standards to stay operational and they all wear PPE. They can easily limit the number of clients at any given by only taking appointments and no walk ins. Meanwhile while Home Depot may be limiting how many can be in the store itself and have dots on the floor which is great and all but there is a line extending nearly a block down the street waiting to get in. Every time I've driven by it looks like Black Friday at both stores. These lines are shoulder to shoulder with the majority of people not wearing masks. While neither nail salons or tattoo parlors are essential and we can argue all day long that Home Depot and Menard's are if we are going to go off on businesses that are a risk let's be honest with ourselves. I'm FAR more likely to catch COVID at Home Depot than I am the tattoo parlor I go to. Two years ago a friend of mine went to a licensed nail salon before we went on vacation. We were in Jamaica and she ended up with a horrible toe nail infection. I went to a licensed salon in Jan, and my feet are still messed up. Just not worth it to me. Home Depot and Menards are essential to people who need to fix plumbing, a stove, etc. Go get your MAGA Trump tattoo! Have at it!! Well you go stand in your line of 30-40 people deep with none of them wearing masks. Not worth it to me. Have at it! JFC since when did a person become a Trump supporter for pointing out a tattoo parlor could have a far easier time controlling crowds and sanitation than a big box store. Therefore I am not going to shit on or attack the independent contractor tattoo artist who'd like to pay his bills. You can get your precious stove parts online from Home Depot's web site just fine without every setting foot in the store. Home Depot still gets it's money from you. People who work at HD who lose their jobs can get UE. I don't fault hair stylists, nail techs and tattoo artists for being frustrated and worried or taking the chance with opening if they are allowed to do so.
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Post by oped on May 3, 2020 19:17:56 GMT -5
Ordered parts of the dishwasher and stove yesterday. They aren't essential... but I could live without either appliance for awhile if they were.
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Post by movingforward on May 3, 2020 19:55:03 GMT -5
To be honest if I was going to go somewhere it'd be a licensed nail salon or tattoo parlor right now over Home Depot or Menards. Nail salons and tattoo parlors already have to maintain strict health standards to stay operational and they all wear PPE. They can easily limit the number of clients at any given by only taking appointments and no walk ins. Meanwhile while Home Depot may be limiting how many can be in the store itself and have dots on the floor which is great and all but there is a line extending nearly a block down the street waiting to get in. Every time I've driven by it looks like Black Friday at both stores. These lines are shoulder to shoulder with the majority of people not wearing masks. While neither nail salons or tattoo parlors are essential and we can argue all day long that Home Depot and Menard's are if we are going to go off on businesses that are a risk let's be honest with ourselves. I'm FAR more likely to catch COVID at Home Depot than I am the tattoo parlor I go to. Two years ago a friend of mine went to a licensed nail salon before we went on vacation. We were in Jamaica and she ended up with a horrible toe nail infection. I went to a licensed salon in Jan, and my feet are still messed up. Just not worth it to me. Home Depot and Menards are essential to people who need to fix plumbing, a stove, etc. Go get your MAGA Trump tattoo! Have at it!! I'm about 99.99% sure drama is not a trump supporter
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 3, 2020 21:39:04 GMT -5
Two years ago a friend of mine went to a licensed nail salon before we went on vacation. We were in Jamaica and she ended up with a horrible toe nail infection. I went to a licensed salon in Jan, and my feet are still messed up. Just not worth it to me. Home Depot and Menards are essential to people who need to fix plumbing, a stove, etc. Go get your MAGA Trump tattoo! Have at it!! I'm about 99.99% sure drama is not a trump supporter I’m going to say with confidence that 100% DQ is not a trump supporter
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 0:11:53 GMT -5
To be honest if I was going to go somewhere it'd be a licensed nail salon or tattoo parlor right now over Home Depot or Menards. Nail salons and tattoo parlors already have to maintain strict health standards to stay operational and they all wear PPE. They can easily limit the number of clients at any given by only taking appointments and no walk ins. Meanwhile while Home Depot may be limiting how many can be in the store itself and have dots on the floor which is great and all but there is a line extending nearly a block down the street waiting to get in. Every time I've driven by it looks like Black Friday at both stores. These lines are shoulder to shoulder with the majority of people not wearing masks. While neither nail salons or tattoo parlors are essential and we can argue all day long that Home Depot and Menard's are if we are going to go off on businesses that are a risk let's be honest with ourselves. I'm FAR more likely to catch COVID at Home Depot than I am the tattoo parlor I go to. Two years ago a friend of mine went to a licensed nail salon before we went on vacation. We were in Jamaica and she ended up with a horrible toe nail infection. I went to a licensed salon in Jan, and my feet are still messed up. Just not worth it to me. Home Depot and Menards are essential to people who need to fix plumbing, a stove, etc. Go get your MAGA Trump tattoo! Have at it!! Seriously? You just posted about how happy you were to get your dog groomed. How essential is that?
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 4, 2020 5:34:53 GMT -5
Two years ago a friend of mine went to a licensed nail salon before we went on vacation. We were in Jamaica and she ended up with a horrible toe nail infection. I went to a licensed salon in Jan, and my feet are still messed up. Just not worth it to me. Home Depot and Menards are essential to people who need to fix plumbing, a stove, etc. Go get your MAGA Trump tattoo! Have at it!! Seriously? You just posted about how happy you were to get your dog groomed. How essential is that? What I'm learning is that people consider services "essential" if it impacts them.
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Post by oped on May 4, 2020 5:39:33 GMT -5
To be fair the dog grooming was no contact, not sure nail salon could be.
Animals can get this.... has there been any pet to human transmissions?
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 4, 2020 6:49:04 GMT -5
I've heard it's rare for a dog or cat to get it and that if they do get it they can't infect humans. Our knowledge on this virus is still not complete but that's what I've heard.
If this had been a two week shut down or even four weeks, I'd argue that a lot of things weren't essential. The longer it drags on, I think more things become essential. For some pedicures are a nice treat and for others they are necessary. Some people can't trim their own nails. This long into it they are in danger of having problems.
My sister in law's dogs need nail trims badly. They got my DH scratched up good the other night. Yes, it's because they are hyper with no outlet and poorly trained but the nails need cut. They have black nails so a harder cut. And because they are hyper I can't see any attempt at cutting them going well.
I don't see why you couldn't have appointment only nail trims or grooming. Do like the vets and come get the animal from the car. Give a card over the phone when you make the appointment for payment.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 7:08:14 GMT -5
To be fair the dog grooming was no contact, not sure nail salon could be. Well, I hope she doused him in Lysol and locked him in the garage for three days before letting him in the house (not really, but there are certainly people that feel that letting a potentially infected person spend all that time handling their pet is risky behavior...if only because the virus can survive on the surface of the animal). Mainly what triggered me was the attaching a political affiliation to somebody's feelings/beliefs. Drama had a legit point. I'd probably be more comfortable in a private shop exposed to one or two people that I knew were taking precautions...AS comfortable at least...to being in a big box that hundreds were inside coughing and touching random shit. I guess that makes me a Trump lover. Who knew?!? My mother will be so proud.
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Post by oped on May 4, 2020 7:12:49 GMT -5
Agree on that point. I’m hoping it was just being on edge due to current circumstances... I know I have been.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 4, 2020 7:24:31 GMT -5
I was in Lowe's Saturday. There were tons of people who didn't even try to stay away from others. They just don't care. So yes, a small shop with 4-5 people who are being careful is way better in terms of potential exposure. That's just a numbers game.
Our weed trimmer is dead. There's a jungle in my backyard. Their website claimed they had 25 of the one we wanted. The website lied. Or they were locked up somewhere, but we weren't sticking around to find out.
In the end, assuming the tool rental place has it, my brother is going to buy it and bring it to me. We have electrical work for him to do.
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Post by thyme4change on May 4, 2020 8:14:16 GMT -5
Generally, I don't question polls too much. I have a vague understanding of statistics and how the polls are done. When a poll states something different than my personal experience, I tend to believe the polls, because i know what a small, specific world i live in. However, i am really struggling to believe this 85% of people want to extend the lockdown figure. I would say 85% of people (friends IRL and Facebook, etc.) want to start opening. I am drowning in lefty-liberals over here and spend a lot of time rolling our eyes at Trump and criticizing Republicans, my facebook feed is usually full of articles supporting progressive ideas. So seeing so many people clambering for re-opening makes me question what these polls are asking.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 4, 2020 8:40:02 GMT -5
I will wait for the numbers in 3 to 5 weeks before I take any unnecessary risks.
If what my neighbors and family are presently doing is representative, there will be a big uptick in the number of cases in that time frame.
I will do what I can to protect myself so that I am not one of the people.
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Post by movingforward on May 4, 2020 8:41:14 GMT -5
Considering what I see in real life and on the media there appears to be a great many that don't care.
Between that and the fact there are numerous people who have had it already without knowing, i sometimes wonder if we are going to reach herd immunity way before a vaccine.
If it were not for the possible overwhelming of the Healthcare system, i would say go for it people. Get us to herd immunity so everyone else can breath a little easier.
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Post by billisonboard on May 4, 2020 8:52:16 GMT -5
Generally, I don't question polls too much. I have a vague understanding of statistics and how the polls are done. When a poll states something different than my personal experience, I tend to believe the polls, because i know what a small, specific world i live in. However, i am really struggling to believe this 85% of people want to extend the lockdown figure. I would say 85% of people (friends IRL and Facebook, etc.) want to start opening. I am drowning in lefty-liberals over here and spend a lot of time rolling our eyes at Trump and criticizing Republicans, my facebook feed is usually full of articles supporting progressive ideas. So seeing so many people clambering for re-opening makes me question what these polls are asking. CVGB1B. NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll National Tables April 21st through April 26th, 2020 Do you think it is a good idea or a bad idea to do each of the following without further testing for the coronavirus: Have people return to work? There were a series of questions with the same start and different actions.
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Post by thyme4change on May 4, 2020 9:29:17 GMT -5
Generally, I don't question polls too much. I have a vague understanding of statistics and how the polls are done. When a poll states something different than my personal experience, I tend to believe the polls, because i know what a small, specific world i live in. However, i am really struggling to believe this 85% of people want to extend the lockdown figure. I would say 85% of people (friends IRL and Facebook, etc.) want to start opening. I am drowning in lefty-liberals over here and spend a lot of time rolling our eyes at Trump and criticizing Republicans, my facebook feed is usually full of articles supporting progressive ideas. So seeing so many people clambering for re-opening makes me question what these polls are asking. CVGB1B. NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll National Tables April 21st through April 26th, 2020 Do you think it is a good idea or a bad idea to do each of the following without further testing for the coronavirus: Have people return to work? There were a series of questions with the same start and different actions. I hope the rest of the questions were a little more specific. I couldn't answer 'Should people return to work' with a yes or no. Should me and my office, who are all doing quite well working from home return to work? No. Should we open some things and have some other voluntarily return to work? Yes. Should we open everything and force everyone to return to work? No. Did NPR and PBS do a random sampling, or was this focused on their listeners? Because....
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Post by thyme4change on May 4, 2020 9:32:31 GMT -5
I think it is just a statement about most of the protesters they are showing on TV. I don't think the protesters are doing a very good job of representing the people who want to re-open. I also think the protesters and people who think like them are in the minority. I believe most people that are supportive of re-opening want a well thought out plan with proper precautions and rules. I also believe they don't think storming the capital with automatic weapons is a good idea either. I hear the criticism that the media is blowing the virus out of proportion and wants to scare us. But I also think the media is giving too much time and weight to the protesters. They aren't doing a good job discussing the pro's and con's of a difficult and complicated decision. How is the media blowing it of proportion? I know you aren’t saying it. More Americans have died in 4 months from this than died in Vietnam. It will likely be the third leading cause of death in th US this year. If that is not an important story, I don’t know what is When was the last time the 3rd leading cause of death or even the 1st leading cause of death the only news story for months on end?
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 4, 2020 9:37:21 GMT -5
How is the media blowing it of proportion? I know you aren’t saying it. More Americans have died in 4 months from this than died in Vietnam. It will likely be the third leading cause of death in th US this year. If that is not an important story, I don’t know what is When was the last time the 3rd leading cause of death or even the 1st leading cause of death the only news story for months on end? It is the only news story because it killed more people in many states than all other causes combined, is not under control, is causing a massive disruption in our lives. What other story even comes close in scope to this at this point in time. I remember the first Gulf War, and 9/11 and the aftermath were given a disproportionate amount of coverage, especially when you look at how many people were truly affected. This overwhelms everything else.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 4, 2020 9:39:54 GMT -5
Considering what I see in real life and on the media there appears to be a great many that don't care. Between that and the fact there are numerous people who have had it already without knowing, i sometimes wonder if we are going to reach herd immunity way before a vaccine. If it were not for the possible overwhelming of the Healthcare system, i would say go for it people. Get us to herd immunity so everyone else can breath a little easier. If you look at our number of infections, and believe they have been severely undercounted(a reasonable assumption), the question is by how much. Even if there are 10 uncounted for every one that is counted, we still only have about 12 million people infected, about 3% of the population. Going to take a long time to get to 70% of us infected.
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Post by billisonboard on May 4, 2020 9:53:00 GMT -5
CVGB1B. NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll National Tables April 21st through April 26th, 2020 Do you think it is a good idea or a bad idea to do each of the following without further testing for the coronavirus: Have people return to work? There were a series of questions with the same start and different actions. I hope the rest of the questions were a little more specific. I couldn't answer 'Should people return to work' with a yes or no. Should me and my office, who are all doing quite well working from home return to work? No. Should we open some things and have some other voluntarily return to work? Yes. Should we open everything and force everyone to return to work? No. Did NPR and PBS do a random sampling, or was this focused on their listeners? Because.... Here is the link to the site from which you could download the answers to all your questions and much more.
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