Interactive map of the USA reporting Coronavirus cases

[dondub]

Oct 26, 2020 17:50:07 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Don't worry.   We have turned the corner on the virus.  It will  also disappear when the weather gets warm.

There will be a vaccine by Monday the 2nd.

[Tennesseer]

We're saved! Heil TRUMP!

[thyme4change]

Oct 26, 2020 18:03:45 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 26, 2020 17:50:07 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Don't worry.   We have turned the corner on the virus.  It will  also disappear when the weather gets warm.

There will be a vaccine by Monday the 2nd.

That may be too late. Half the population may have already voted by then.

[dondub]

Ok I did. 5.07 times the population yields 177,000 for comparing to our 230.000+.

[pulmonarymd]

I thought trumps campaign slogan is keep America great. I didn’t realize we now accept average. Didn’t think a C was a great grade

[andi9899]

Oct 26, 2020 19:28:22 GMT -5 @x said:

Oct 26, 2020 17:18:17 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Yet they've had ~35K deaths and we're at ~220K...

ETA: We're at ~230K. My bad.

If that's your angle, you might want to figure in our population of 330 million vs their 65 million. 

Didn't they have a much higher/better followed level of restrictions ? 

Might be thinking of Italy.

Ok. Let's do it your way. 65/330= 0.196969697, so roughly they are about 1/5 of our size in population. Let's then take our 230K deaths (it's more, but at this point, the numbers are so huge what's a couple thousand people) and cut it into 5 to get 1/5. That means in order to be doing better than us, they have to have less than 46K deaths. They have 35K.

You were saying?

[andi9899]

Oct 26, 2020 18:18:20 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oct 26, 2020 18:03:45 GMT -5 dondub said:

There will be a vaccine by Monday the 2nd.

That may be too late. Half the population may have already voted by then.

Yeah. Screw the rest of the population. This shit is political, not scientific!

[thyme4change]

Oct 26, 2020 20:15:54 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

I thought trumps campaign slogan is keep America great. I didn’t realize we now accept average. Didn’t think a C was a great grade

As long as it is a white C, it is okay.

Also, you can't grade the whole country. Only grade the white parts and you get a much different result.

[pulmonarymd]

Oct 27, 2020 9:36:14 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oct 26, 2020 20:15:54 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

I thought trumps campaign slogan is keep America great. I didn’t realize we now accept average. Didn’t think a C was a great grade

As long as it is a white C, it is okay.

Also, you can't grade the whole country. Only grade the white parts and you get a much different result.

Give it time. Those areas seem to be doing what they can to affect the curve

[andi9899]

Oct 27, 2020 9:26:34 GMT -5 @x said:

Oct 26, 2020 20:26:49 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Ok. Let's do it your way. 65/330= 0.196969697, so roughly they are about 1/5 of our size in population. Let's then take our 230K deaths (it's more, but at this point, the numbers are so huge what's a couple thousand people) and cut it into 5 to get 1/5. That means in order to be doing better than us, they have to have less than 46K deaths. They have 35K.

You were saying?

That you should account for population difference and not just post the raw totals. 

I just did. Or did you miss it?

[djAdvocate]

I expect more from the US than to emulate France.

the US should emulate the best responses in the world. that would be South Korea and New Zealand. those two countries have roughly 1% of our death rate.

which would mean that Trump is responsible for approximately 220,000 US deaths.

[dondub]

In the meantime a new virus record is getting set every damn day.😡☠️

[Tennesseer]

CNN just listed total people in the United States dead as a result of Covid-19  at over 250,000.

I thought just about 15 people had the virus in February and they were all getting better and the virus would soon disappear in the U.S.  What happened?

[djAdvocate]

it really feels like we HAVE turned a corner.

the pandemic is now a raging bonfire, rather than a controlled burn.

[thyme4change]

Nov 22, 2020 5:57:45 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it really feels like we HAVE turned a corner.

the pandemic is now a raging bonfire, rather than a controlled burn.

Your statement that we HAVE turned a corner reminded me of that time that my family literally turned a corner. And it was not a good thing.

One evening, we were driving around in downtown Los Angeles with my ~7 year old children and my ~elderly in-laws. We didn't know exactly where we were and were trying to get back to the freeway. The street we were on was a well traveled streets - it was well lit and had fairly normal looking businesses, and people were walking around. It wasn't beverly hills, but felt okay. My husband turned down a street and suddenly we we were in the scariest place I have ever been. We had to drive down what was the geographically short, but emotionally extremely long block, and circle back to get to normal street. My biggest fear was that someone had a way to force us to stop the car, and we would be sitting ducks.

[djAdvocate]

Oct 26, 2020 17:43:53 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oct 26, 2020 17:18:17 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Yet they've had ~35K deaths and we're at ~220K...

ETA: We're at ~230K. My bad.

They have like 1/5th the number of people.

We still have a proportionally higher death rate, but it isn't as disproportionate as 35k v 230k.

I still say the best example of what we could have done is SK.

they have 1/4 the population.  it is a large, diverse, cosmopolitan, urban, industrialized country.

it has lots of open sea borders, and relatively small land borders with neighbors.

they have just over 500 deaths.

[busymom]

Nov 22, 2020 5:57:45 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it really feels like we HAVE turned a corner.

the pandemic is now a raging bonfire, rather than a controlled burn.

    Sadly, because too many will be celebrating Thanksgiving as a group, a lot of folks are going to have a very sad Christmas, due to family deaths.  Why do people have to be so stubborn?  Either they've never learned how to solve a problem as a team, or they've just never learned to function as an adult.    Indeed, it appears the Greatest Generation really was, because they could tackle problems for the greater good, rather than focusing on their personal losses.

[djAdvocate]

Nov 22, 2020 12:37:18 GMT -5 busymom said:

Nov 22, 2020 5:57:45 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it really feels like we HAVE turned a corner.

the pandemic is now a raging bonfire, rather than a controlled burn.

    Sadly, because too many will be celebrating Thanksgiving as a group, a lot of folks are going to have a very sad Christmas, due to family deaths.  Why do people have to be so stubborn?  Either they've never learned how to solve a problem as a team, or they've just never learned to function as an adult.    Indeed, it appears the Greatest Generation really was, because they could tackle problems for the greater good, rather than focusing on their personal losses.

because we are precisely as the world sees us- a bunch of selfish spoiled kids.

the greatest generation would spit on us.

[Tennesseer]

[Tennesseer]

"That's all I hear about now. That's all I hear. Turn on television—'Covid, Covid, Covid, Covid, Covid, Covid.' A plane goes down. 500 people dead, they don't talk about it," Trump told his supporters at a campaign rally in Lumberton, North Carolina, on October 24th. "Covid, Covid, Covid, Covid.' By the way, on November 4, you won't hear about it anymore,"

Trump Predicted ‘Covid, Covid, Covid’ Would End After The Election. It's Worse Than Ever


November was a busy month for Covid in the USA.

U.S. coronavirus cases pass 4 million for the month of November, doubling the record set in October.

[Tiny]

Yeah, Covid19 totally went away in November.... I'm sure the families of the 37853 people who died of it,  in America,  from Nov 1 thru end of day Nov 30 are relieved it's gone.  

Death count on November 30th       274332
Death count on October 31st          -236479 
                                                   _______ 
                                                       37853  

Yeah, Covid19 is so over and done. 

[flan327]

Nov 22, 2020 15:15:27 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Nov 22, 2020 12:37:18 GMT -5 busymom said:

    Sadly, because too many will be celebrating Thanksgiving as a group, a lot of folks are going to have a very sad Christmas, due to family deaths.  Why do people have to be so stubborn?  Either they've never learned how to solve a problem as a team, or they've just never learned to function as an adult.    Indeed, it appears the Greatest Generation really was, because they could tackle problems for the greater good, rather than focusing on their personal losses.

because we are precisely as the world sees us- a bunch of selfish spoiled kids.

the greatest generation would spit on us.

I disagree

I think that they would PITY us

[thyme4change]

Nov 22, 2020 12:37:18 GMT -5 busymom said:

Nov 22, 2020 5:57:45 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it really feels like we HAVE turned a corner.

the pandemic is now a raging bonfire, rather than a controlled burn.

    Sadly, because too many will be celebrating Thanksgiving as a group, a lot of folks are going to have a very sad Christmas, due to family deaths.  Why do people have to be so stubborn?  Either they've never learned how to solve a problem as a team, or they've just never learned to function as an adult.    Indeed, it appears the Greatest Generation really was, because they could tackle problems for the greater good, rather than focusing on their personal losses.

The "greatest generation" bitched and moaned about this kind of stuff just as much as we do. There were people who refused to wear a mask during the 1918 Spanish Flu. There were people who manipulated the system as to not get drafted. There were people who blamed government (and black people and immigrants - or specifically the Irish) for the depression and then left their families and drank themselves to death. There were people that made stupid decisions - anti-science, etc.

This myth that they handled everything with strength, kindness, wisdom and grace is ridiculous.

[Tennesseer]

List of named generations

Western world

The Western world includes Western Europe, the Americas, and Australasia. Many variations may exist within these regions, both geographically and culturally, which means that the list is broadly indicative, but very general. The contemporary characterization of these cohorts used in media and advertising borrows, in part, from the Strauss–Howe generational theory[13][30] and generally follows the logic of the pulse-rate hypothesis.[31]

The Lost Generation, also known as the "Generation of 1914" in Europe,[32] is a term originating from Gertrude Stein to describe those who fought in World War I. The Lost Generation is defined as the cohort born from 1883 to 1900 who came of age during World War I and the Roaring Twenties.[33]


The Greatest Generation, also known as the "G.I. Generation",[34] includes the veterans who fought in World War II. They were born from 1901 to 1927;[35] older G.I.s (or the Interbellum Generation) came of age during the Roaring Twenties, while younger G.I.s came of age during the Great Depression and World War II. Journalist Tom Brokaw wrote about American members of this cohort in his book The Greatest Generation, which popularized the term.[36]


The Silent Generation, also known as the "Lucky Few", is the cohort who came of age in the post–World War II era. They were born from 1928 to 1945.[37][38] In the U.S., this group includes most of those who may have fought the Korean War and many of those who may have fought during the Vietnam War.


Baby boomers, also known as the Me Generation, are the people born following World War II from 1946 to 1964. Increased birth rates were observed during the post–World War II baby boom, making them a relatively large demographic cohort.[39][40] In the U.S., many older boomers may have fought in the Vietnam War or participated in the counterculture of the 1960s.


Generation X (or Gen X for short) is the cohort following the baby boomers. The generation is generally defined as people born between 1965 to 1980.[41] The term has also been used in different times and places for a number of different subcultures or countercultures since the 1950s. In the U.S., some called Xers the "baby bust" generation because of a drop in birth rates following the baby boom.[42]


Millennials, also known as Generation Y[43] (or Gen Y for short), are the generation following Generation X who grew up around the turn of the 3rd millennium. The generation is widely accepted as having been born between 1981 and 1996.[44] According to the Pew Research Center, Millennials surpassed the Baby Boomers in U.S. numbers in 2019, with an estimated 71.6 million Boomers and 72.1 million Millennials.[45]


Generation Z (or Gen Z for short) are the people succeeding the Millennials. Researchers and popular media typically use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years. Pew Research Center specifies the years 1997 to 2012.[46]


Generation Alpha (or Gen Alpha for short) is the one succeeding Generation Z. Researchers and popular media typically use the early 2010s as starting birth years and the mid-2020s as ending birth years. Generation Alpha is the first to be born entirely in the 21st century.[47] As of 2015, there were some two-and-a-half million people born every week around the globe, and Gen Alpha is expected to reach two billion in size by 2025.[48]

Generation

[thyme4change]

Dec 1, 2020 16:48:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

List of named generations

Western world

The Western world includes Western Europe, the Americas, and Australasia. Many variations may exist within these regions, both geographically and culturally, which means that the list is broadly indicative, but very general. The contemporary characterization of these cohorts used in media and advertising borrows, in part, from the Strauss–Howe generational theory[13][30] and generally follows the logic of the pulse-rate hypothesis.[31]

The Lost Generation, also known as the "Generation of 1914" in Europe,[32] is a term originating from Gertrude Stein to describe those who fought in World War I. The Lost Generation is defined as the cohort born from 1883 to 1900 who came of age during World War I and the Roaring Twenties.[33]


The Greatest Generation, also known as the "G.I. Generation",[34] includes the veterans who fought in World War II. They were born from 1901 to 1927;[35] older G.I.s (or the Interbellum Generation) came of age during the Roaring Twenties, while younger G.I.s came of age during the Great Depression and World War II. Journalist Tom Brokaw wrote about American members of this cohort in his book The Greatest Generation, which popularized the term.[36]


The Silent Generation, also known as the "Lucky Few", is the cohort who came of age in the post–World War II era. They were born from 1928 to 1945.[37][38] In the U.S., this group includes most of those who may have fought the Korean War and many of those who may have fought during the Vietnam War.


Baby boomers, also known as the Me Generation, are the people born following World War II from 1946 to 1964. Increased birth rates were observed during the post–World War II baby boom, making them a relatively large demographic cohort.[39][40] In the U.S., many older boomers may have fought in the Vietnam War or participated in the counterculture of the 1960s.


Generation X (or Gen X for short) is the cohort following the baby boomers. The generation is generally defined as people born between 1965 to 1980.[41] The term has also been used in different times and places for a number of different subcultures or countercultures since the 1950s. In the U.S., some called Xers the "baby bust" generation because of a drop in birth rates following the baby boom.[42]


Millennials, also known as Generation Y[43] (or Gen Y for short), are the generation following Generation X who grew up around the turn of the 3rd millennium. The generation is widely accepted as having been born between 1981 and 1996.[44] According to the Pew Research Center, Millennials surpassed the Baby Boomers in U.S. numbers in 2019, with an estimated 71.6 million Boomers and 72.1 million Millennials.[45]


Generation Z (or Gen Z for short) are the people succeeding the Millennials. Researchers and popular media typically use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years. Pew Research Center specifies the years 1997 to 2012.[46]


Generation Alpha (or Gen Alpha for short) is the one succeeding Generation Z. Researchers and popular media typically use the early 2010s as starting birth years and the mid-2020s as ending birth years. Generation Alpha is the first to be born entirely in the 21st century.[47] As of 2015, there were some two-and-a-half million people born every week around the globe, and Gen Alpha is expected to reach two billion in size by 2025.[48]

Generation

And I guarantee there were idiots, pussies, assholes, good people, highly motivated people and smart people in every one of those generations.

[flan327]

I forgot that I was a Baby Boomer

[dondub]

Dec 1, 2020 21:37:39 GMT -5 flan327 said:

I forgot that I was a Baby Boomer

Baby boomers are old enough now to be forgetful.

[Tennesseer]

Dec 2, 2020 17:35:41 GMT -5 dondub said:

Dec 1, 2020 21:37:39 GMT -5 flan327 said:

I forgot that I was a Baby Boomer

Baby boomers are old enough now to be forgetful.

I live in Tennessee so my user name is Tennesseer.

[Tiny]

I remember the 300K number projected for December  from the summer - and since we are rapidly approaching 300K (At 290K so will probably hit it in the next 7 to 10 days)  I had to go looking for it: 

From August 7th, 2020

Forecast: 300,000 Americans dead from COVID-19 by December 

www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/08/forecast-300000-americans-dead-covid-19-december

The American death toll from the COVID-19 pandemic could reach nearly 300,000 by Dec 1, according to a new forecast by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington's School of Medicine. The institute has been the source of influential, though not always accurate, models for the American pandemic, and at times has been favored by the White House.



The model shows 295,011 deaths by Dec 1, but says 70,000 of those could be prevented if 95% of Americans wore masks whenever they were outside their homes. The model also assumes some states will reissue stay-at-home orders and close nonessential businesses when the daily death rate in a state reaches 8 per million.

And found this new "projection" of 400K dead by March 2021:
thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/526314-projected-us-coronavirus-deaths-more-than-400000

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation publishes projections of COVID-19 deaths, infections, testing, hospital resource use, mask use and social distancing. You can view the charts for the global situation or broken down to country or even further by region within a country.



In the U.S., if restrictions are eased, the model projects deaths to reach more than 586,000 by March 1, 2021. If things stay the same, deaths would be at nearly 439,000 over the same time period. Lastly, if mask mandates were put into effect, they estimate there would be about 370,000 deaths due to COVID-19. The business-as-usual and mask mandate scenarios also include an assumption that if daily deaths reach 8 per million people then restrictions like closing nonessential businesses would be reinstated for six weeks.

[anciana]

Dec 7, 2020 22:28:22 GMT -5 Tiny said:

I remember the 300K number projected for December  from the summer - and since we are rapidly approaching 300K (At 290K so will probably hit it in the next 7 to 10 days)  I had to go looking for it: 

From August 7th, 2020

Forecast: 300,000 Americans dead from COVID-19 by December 

www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/08/forecast-300000-americans-dead-covid-19-december

The American death toll from the COVID-19 pandemic could reach nearly 300,000 by Dec 1, according to a new forecast by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington's School of Medicine. The institute has been the source of influential, though not always accurate, models for the American pandemic, and at times has been favored by the White House.



The model shows 295,011 deaths by Dec 1, but says 70,000 of those could be prevented if 95% of Americans wore masks whenever they were outside their homes. The model also assumes some states will reissue stay-at-home orders and close nonessential businesses when the daily death rate in a state reaches 8 per million.

And found this new "projection" of 400K dead by March 2021:
thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/526314-projected-us-coronavirus-deaths-more-than-400000

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation publishes projections of COVID-19 deaths, infections, testing, hospital resource use, mask use and social distancing. You can view the charts for the global situation or broken down to country or even further by region within a country.



In the U.S., if restrictions are eased, the model projects deaths to reach more than 586,000 by March 1, 2021. If things stay the same, deaths would be at nearly 439,000 over the same time period. Lastly, if mask mandates were put into effect, they estimate there would be about 370,000 deaths due to COVID-19. The business-as-usual and mask mandate scenarios also include an assumption that if daily deaths reach 8 per million people then restrictions like closing nonessential businesses would be reinstated for six weeks.

Thank you for pulling those numbers, I was just thinking about this sad milestone. So, it looks like they weren't that far off predicting 300,000 by Dec 1. If we reach 300,000 by Dec 15 which doesn't seem too farfetched, it would mean that we didn't do a very good job protecting lives in those 4 months since they made the prediction.