Interactive map of the USA reporting Coronavirus cases

[Tiny]

Well, 300K came and went... faster than I thought (as in it took 3 days for 10K more people to die in the USofA)

I have to admit, Americans are really good at dying of Covid19 (or complications of Covid19). I would think our current administration and it's supporters would be PROUD! of the effort so many Americans put forth to achieve this goal.

<yeah, that's sarcasm and a bit of a parody>

[Tiny]

According to the World o Meter - the US passed 320K.   20,000 in 7 days.   

[djAdvocate]

it's now official. our death rate is back to where we were in April.

[pulmonarymd]

Dec 20, 2020 9:38:46 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it's now official. our death rate is back to where we were in April.

Are you surprised by that? What have we done in the last 9 months to suggest we are smarter than this? What a freaking tragedy

[flan327]

Dec 20, 2020 12:01:02 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Dec 20, 2020 9:38:46 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it's now official. our death rate is back to where we were in April.

Are you surprised by that? What have we done in the last 9 months to suggest we are smarter than this? What a freaking tragedy

Trump is an ARSE

[Tiny]

We seem to be on track to hit 350K deaths by December 31st.

329500 dead as of today (and the day is not over.)

I'm guessing the number of deaths isn't going to go down any time soon. With so many more people getting/spreading the virus.

[pulmonarymd]

500k by the end of winter as a minimum, basically the one year anniversary of the acknowledgement that this is a national crisis

[djAdvocate]

Dec 20, 2020 20:56:28 GMT -5 flan327 said:

Dec 20, 2020 12:01:02 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Are you surprised by that? What have we done in the last 9 months to suggest we are smarter than this? What a freaking tragedy

Trump is an ARSE

he is about as constructive as a tornado.

[djAdvocate]

6 months ago, I flippantly mentioned that 1M might die in a discussion with oldcoyote. he responded with incredulity.

well, now the UOW estimate is 567,000. by April 1st.
based on the consistent upward movement of this estimate, and the fact that it is only through April 1st, my maximum number of killed is starting to look fairly realistic.

I am not inspired to raise it. YET.
but it no longer seems terribly improbable to me.

[pulmonarymd]

I don’t think we will get to 1 million, though it won’t be due to lack of effort. We will likely hit 6-700 k by summer, and the numbers will be trending downwards. By the time they head back up, we will hopefully have vaccinated a significant portion of the population, so the peak next fall/winter will be blunted, and we will settle a little under that number

[Tennesseer]

It shouldn't be surprising that the reality of masks and other pandemic control measures is the precise opposite of the conservative agitprop line. Most masks and lockdown orders are primarily a way to protect others, not just yourself — which you would think would be exactly in line with purported conservative values of traditional masculinity. But facts have never stood in the way of the conservative persecution complex. Nothing gets their blood flowing like playing martyr before imaginary liberal tyranny. Casting oneself as Anne Frank for having to wear a two-dollar cloth mask at Walmart during the worst pandemic in a century would be a stretch for most people in the world, but not American movement conservatives.

The conservative victimhood complex has made America impossible to govern

[busymom]

I agree that the victimhood has gone way over the top.  I've got a couple of old friends who've been practically screaming on Facebook how Christians are being victimized.  The temporary closure of churches, etc. (never mind that many businesses have been closed, too).  Also, both of them complained that being forced to wear a mask "violated their freedom", and they'd frequently post pictures of themselves in public places NOT wearing a mask.  Of course, you KNOW what happened.  They both got COVID.  And, they were lucky enough to survive it with minimal problems, although one is now complaining of hair loss (one problem that some COVID patients have had), but of course she doesn't know how THAT happened.  They just claim that COVID is one big hoax.  And no, I never imagined I would personally know anyone who would be a COVID denier.  They're just being victimized by the government, yanno...  

[Tiny]

I was just contemplating:

in theory:
there are better ways to treat Covid19 if you wind up in the hospital - so more people are recovering from serious illness.
Covid19 is spreading quickly so there are MORE people getting it.
and finally, the number of deaths has gone up (back to what it was when we didn't have good ways to treat people, and fewer new cases per day.).


My gosh. If we didn't have some treatments for those who are hospitalized that help - think about the death count!

And then, think about how deadly the virus is WITH treatments that help some who get it survive it.

::shudder::

[Tiny]

As of this morning: 341597, so that's 8403 away from 350K.

We've got 4 days... til the end of the year. So, 2100 deaths per day would get us to 350,000 deaths for 2020. I think we will make that number. Go USA! MAGA!

[Tennesseer]

pulmonarymd:  saw this on Facebook and am wondering what your professional opinion is on the advice.  Good, bad, or mixed.  It is long and there is no link from Facebook for me to post only part of it.

I would like to know why no one talks about how to fight COVID at home. I came down with Covid on November 13, 2020. November 20th I had to go to the BSA Hospital, running a fever of 103, a rapid Heart Beat, and all other systems that come with Covid. While I was there they treated me for the high fever of 103, plus IV with fluid, not sure what was in it, since I was dehydrated some. Then they ran x-rays, on my chest and lungs which I have Pneumonia at the bottom of my lungs.

The Dr prescribed Azithromycin 250 mg & Dexamethason 6mg, for Covid & Pneumoinia. Then the Nurse came in to put these Antibiotic & Steroid into my IV before they released me to go home, to fight Covid at home, prescribe prescription for both medication. If your temp goes up to 102-106 go the hospital, that is the only way you will get Antibiotic & steroid for Covid, which will at least help you fight it some. That is what they are doing in Amarillo Texas. Do not wait, until it’s to late, they will either admit you or send you home to fight it.

While I was there I asked the Nurse. What can I do to help fight this at Home? She is a Nurse that came from New York, and other States to help out with the Hospitals that are short Staff because of Covid. This is what she told me to do, “if I want to Live or Die, only I had to do it no matter what. You are to sleep on your stomach at all time with Covid. If you can’t sleep on your stomach because of health issues then SLEEP ON YOUR SIDE. DO NOT LAY ON YOUR BACK NO MATTER WHAT!! It smashes your Lungs, which will let fluid set into your Lungs.

Set your clock every 2 hours, while sleeping on your stomach. Get out of bed and WALK 30 min. NO matter how TIRED you are or WEAK!! While walking make sure to work out your arms. This will help open your lungs. Breath in thru your NOSE, and out thru you MOUTH. This will help build up your lungs, plus help get rid of the Pneumonia, or what ever Fluid you might have building into your body. Make sure to set your Clock for 2 hours then walk 30 min. All I can say is DO IT!!

When setting in a recliner, sit up straight do not lay back in the recliner, it will smash you Lungs. While watching TV walk during commercial. Then relax again straight up. I sleep with a C-Pap, I was told not to while having Covid. The air from the C-Pap impacts the air into your lungs, which is bad. We need Oxygen, not air into our Lungs. That is why she said Breath in thru your nose, and out thru your Mouth, big BREATHS.

I was told to eat at least 1 or 2 eggs a day, plus bananas, avocado, asparagus these are good for Potassium. My husband would make me a smoothie of Blue Berries, Strawberries, Bananas, Honey, tea spoon peanut butter (if you can eat Peanut Butter.) I was told to eat Berries.” With the DIARRHEA which almost everyone get, it can wipe out your Potassium. My best friend was put in the Hospital, because it wiped hers out. Diarrhea, what helped me and my kids that all came down with Covid. We drank Pedialyte, Gatorade Zero, Powerade Zero & Water with Electrolytes.

The nurse told me not to drink anything Cold, drink straight from the bottle, or warm it up. Water with Lemon, and little Honey, Peppermint Tea, Apple Cider, what every you can drink. NO MILK PRODUCTS, or PORK MEAT. Vitamin’s D3, C, B, Zinc, Probiotic One-Day, and what ever other Vitamins you can take. Tylenol for fever. Mucinex, or Mucinex DM for drainage, plus helps out on the COUGH, you will get. Pepcid helps for cramps in your legs. Baby Aspirin a day, for Blood Clots that some people are getting in there legs.

Sorry, I do not remember the Nurse name, she made sure to stress Sleeping on your Stomach 2 hours, walking 30 min. work out your arms while walking, and Breath in thru your Nose and out thru your Mouth. If you want to LIVE. I’m on my 4th week now, and doing Good, still get weak and tired by 9 pm, I’m ready for bed. Now, I get up twice a night and walk 30 min. The nurse told me that, here in Amarillo Texas, we have had Patients come back with relapse of Covid. So Make sure to still sleep on your Stomach and walk the 2 weeks after your 14 days of Covid!!

[pulmonarymd]

A lot of nonsense. Azithromycin does not work, steroids do. Prone positioning works. Changing positions, getting up to walk around works, if you can. A minority of patients get diarrhea, symptomatic treatment is all we have for that. BRAT diet also helps. If you have low oxygen or severe diarrhea, hospitalization is necessary, but otherwise there is no value to it.

[pulmonarymd]

A lot of nonsense. Azithromycin does not work, steroids do. Prone positioning works. Changing positions, getting up to walk around works, if you can. A minority of patients get diarrhea, symptomatic treatment is all we have for that. BRAT diet also helps. If you have low oxygen or severe diarrhea, hospitalization is necessary, but otherwise there is no value to it.

[djAdvocate]

Dec 28, 2020 12:23:24 GMT -5 busymom said:

I agree that the victimhood has gone way over the top.  I've got a couple of old friends who've been practically screaming on Facebook how Christians are being victimized.  The temporary closure of churches, etc. (never mind that many businesses have been closed, too).  Also, both of them complained that being forced to wear a mask "violated their freedom", and they'd frequently post pictures of themselves in public places NOT wearing a mask.  Of course, you KNOW what happened.  They both got COVID.  And, they were lucky enough to survive it with minimal problems, although one is now complaining of hair loss (one problem that some COVID patients have had), but of course she doesn't know how THAT happened.  They just claim that COVID is one big hoax.  And no, I never imagined I would personally know anyone who would be a COVID denier.  They're just being victimized by the government, yanno...  

there is one thing that Trump excels at: robbing the moral capital of victimhood from REAL victims and applying it to those who have never seen any REAL hardship.

[Tennesseer]

Rest in peace, Mary Ann.  Only Ginger is left.

Dawn Wells, Mary Ann on 'Gilligan's Island,' dies of Covid-19 complications at 82

[pulmonarymd]

GOP rep from LA. They probably still think it’s a hoax

[Tennesseer]

Dec 30, 2020 18:28:15 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

GOP rep from LA. They probably still think it’s a hoax

I was thinking the same thing. Will it change the deniers' minds? Who knows.

[pulmonarymd]

Dec 30, 2020 18:32:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 30, 2020 18:28:15 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

GOP rep from LA. They probably still think it’s a hoax

I was thinking the same thing. Will it change the deniers' minds? Who knows.

Doubtful. It would require accepting that trump and Fox News were wrong. A bridge too far

[tallguy]

Dec 30, 2020 17:35:34 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Rest in peace, Mary Ann.  Only Ginger is left.

Dawn Wells, Mary Ann on 'Gilligan's Island,' dies of Covid-19 complications at 82

Well, this virus just became real.  I'll tell you, if it takes Maureen McCormick too I'm done.    

[Opti]

Dec 30, 2020 18:28:15 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

GOP rep from LA. They probably still think it’s a hoax

Sad. He was only 41.

[pulmonarymd]

Dec 30, 2020 19:27:55 GMT -5 Opti said:

Dec 30, 2020 18:28:15 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

GOP rep from LA. They probably still think it’s a hoax

Sad. He was only 41.

Yes, it is. Too many think only old people die of this. This shows it doesn’t. Doubt it. Hanged the narrative though

[Tiny]

Dec 30, 2020 18:33:49 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Dec 30, 2020 18:32:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I was thinking the same thing. Will it change the deniers' minds? Who knows.

Doubtful. It would require accepting that trump and Fox News were wrong. A bridge too far

ADDED:  my new year resolution is to drop the sarcasm.   Sorry about this... it's just all snarky sarcasm that truly sounds awful.   

Meh, it's only one politician.   Look at all the others that have had it and didn't die from it.    Losing one politician doesn't really change anything.  

I'm betting they are more upset about the all the money spent getting the guy into office and how they have to start over.    

I expect Covid19 won't be a political party problem until  a handful or two of elected officials die within a short-ish period of time (say a year).   That probably messes up their long term plans.  

[Tiny]

And we hit 350K deaths    And here's the snark:   with a day to spare!  woo hoo! 

[flan327]

Dec 30, 2020 19:50:49 GMT -5 Tiny said:

And we hit 350K deaths with a day to spare!  woo hoo! 

Indiana helped..
🥀

[Spellbound454]

That looks a bit corrupted
Ours is going on age and medical need.... but healthcare workers and and other key workers (prison officers, police officers) will be moved up.
but it will be scrutinised

I think there would be a public outcry if there was any cronyism.

[flan327]

Not sure about Indiana

Larry fits 2 of the 3 at risk categories