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Post by mmhmm on Jun 2, 2020 15:07:36 GMT -5
Over 107,000 dead. Let's not forget what else is going on in our country. DD1 & I were talking about this just last night. The rioting has mostly shoved Covid out of the news cycle. I'm not usually much into conspiracies but I've got to say this is pretty convenient. Trump can't threaten a virus with tweets and get any result. Virus there-don't care. He can, however, spit his venom all over Twitter to foment civil war ...  |
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 2, 2020 17:55:29 GMT -5
DD1 & I were talking about this just last night. The rioting has mostly shoved Covid out of the news cycle. I'm not usually much into conspiracies but I've got to say this is pretty convenient. Trump can't threaten a virus with tweets and get any result. Virus there-don't care. He can, however, spit his venom all over Twitter to foment civil war ... I'm not sure he is making any friends with the handling of the protests either. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 3, 2020 15:51:38 GMT -5
trump will probably sign an Executive Order demanding The New York Times be shut down for publishing this. Malaria Drug Promoted by Trump Did Not Prevent Covid Infections, Study FindsThe first carefully controlled trial of hydroxychloroquine given to people exposed to the coronavirus did not show any benefit. The malaria drug hydroxychloroquine did not prevent Covid-19 in a rigorous study of 821 people who had been exposed to patients infected with the virus, researchers from the University of Minnesota and Canada are reporting on Wednesday. The study was the first controlled clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine, a drug that President Trump has repeatedly promoted and recently taken himself. Conducted in the United States and Canada, this trial was the first to test whether the drug could prevent illness in people who have been exposed to the coronavirus. This type of study, in which patients are picked at random to receive either an experimental treatment or a placebo, is considered the most reliable way to measure the safety and effectiveness of a drug. The participants were health care workers and people who had been exposed at home to ill spouses, partners or parents. “The take-home message for the general public is that if you’re exposed to someone with Covid-19, hydroxychloroquine is not an effective post-exposure, preventive therapy,” the lead author of the study, Dr. David R. Boulware, from the University of Minnesota, said in an interview. Complete article here: Malaria Drug Promoted by Trump Did Not Prevent Covid Infections, Study Finds |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 3, 2020 17:36:03 GMT -5
He can do what he wants. We stopped using it. Go ahead, have a tantrum, I could give a shot. We ain’t using it
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Post by dondub on Jun 29, 2020 18:42:09 GMT -5
The heaviest Trump red states are all taking a beating on new cases. Arizona plus the confederacy, Will this make a difference in November? I guess we’ll see. If Texas and Georgia flip he’s burnt toast.
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Post by oped on Jun 29, 2020 18:44:08 GMT -5
Arizona is in a horrible spot. Almost a 24% positive rate and ICUs at capacity.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 29, 2020 21:33:57 GMT -5
that state should have been shut down weeks ago.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 29, 2020 21:38:20 GMT -5
that state should have been shut down weeks ago. Ducey shut us down today...kinda. He put us (and I quote) "On Pause". |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 29, 2020 21:45:36 GMT -5
Today's numbers for U.S. 614,246 cases 26,064 deaths over 10,000 deaths in NY state 75 days later (from April 15, 2020 to June 29, 2020) the numbers are: 2,681,811 cases 128,783 deaths |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 29, 2020 21:51:26 GMT -5
that state should have been shut down weeks ago. Ducey shut us down today...kinda. He put us (and I quote) "On Pause". You are in for a world of hurt over the next month, and likely haven’t shut down enough to get a semblance of control |
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Post by kadee79 on Jun 29, 2020 22:15:00 GMT -5
Kemp hasn't done anything in Ga. My DH has to go to Tallahassee in the early am for a VA appt. I dread him going cause he has at least 3 underlying conditions.
Some beaches have closed in Fl. & I think DeSantis closed down the bars again. But that still leaves inside eating at less than full capacity....and we saw what happened with Pence at the Baptist church on Sunday...100 in the choir with no masks.
Just read earlier today that Houston ICUs are full & they have quit reporting so folks who have other emergencies will still go to the hospital...like a heart attack.
And now we have the mutation that is 10 times more infectious. How many more will die now?
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 30, 2020 7:15:46 GMT -5
Ducey shut us down today...kinda. He put us (and I quote) "On Pause". You are in for a world of hurt over the next month, and likely haven’t shut down enough to get a semblance of control You don't think closing the waterparks was enough to stop the outbreak? 😏 |
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 30, 2020 8:09:01 GMT -5
You are in for a world of hurt over the next month, and likely haven’t shut down enough to get a semblance of control You don't think closing the waterparks was enough to stop the outbreak? 😏 SUre, why not. No reason to think that this will continue to spread. The president said so, and we know he knows everything! |
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Post by Tiny on Jul 1, 2020 12:31:23 GMT -5
You don't think closing the waterparks was enough to stop the outbreak? 😏 SUre, why not. No reason to think that this will continue to spread. The president said so, and we know he knows everything! And then there's the "telling people to wear a mask" is a "double edged sword" thing our President said. I'm still trying to figure out what the 2 edges are? Encouraging wearing masks decreases the risk of getting/spreading the virus (that's the good edge) The bad edge is, like, what exactly? - Masks are ugly?
- Masks are inconvenient?
- Masks take away people's "freedom" (kinda like having to bathe regularly and use deodorant and not being naked in public takes away people's freedom or like how stopping at stop signs and being forced to drive the right way down one way streets takes away people's freedom? I'm alittle unsure about this one... cause if I could have been running around NAKED! instead of suffering for years with the uncomfortable feeling of clothes... because it was my RIGHT and FREEDOM to do so I would have been NAKED!!! for decades at this point.)
- Encouraging mask usage at this late date is a open declaration that Trump was wrong?
- Trump hasn't figured out how to profit from making masks - too many individuals making and selling them - and he can't do an Executive Order to regulate the manufacture of masks to just the companies he will profit from?
What is Trump's "double edged sword" comment a euphamism for? That he can't back mask wearing because it will upset his nationalist and white supremacist friends/backers? |
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Post by oped on Jul 1, 2020 12:53:14 GMT -5
Yep. Side A: People might live Side B: His base wouldn't like it (oh and he'd have to wear one...)
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2020 0:43:20 GMT -5
Kemp hasn't done anything in Ga. My DH has to go to Tallahassee in the early am for a VA appt. I dread him going cause he has at least 3 underlying conditions. Some beaches have closed in Fl. & I think DeSantis closed down the bars again. But that still leaves inside eating at less than full capacity....and we saw what happened with Pence at the Baptist church on Sunday...100 in the choir with no masks. Just read earlier today that Houston ICUs are full & they have quit reporting so folks who have other emergencies will still go to the hospital...like a heart attack. And now we have the mutation that is 10 times more infectious. How many more will die now? Georgia is coming up fast in the worst states raffle. |
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Post by laterbloomer on Jul 5, 2020 10:55:27 GMT -5
I'm looking for the site we used to have that had the numbers for all the countries and included the number of serious cases. Can anyone help me out?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 5, 2020 10:58:05 GMT -5
I'm looking for the site we used to have that had the numbers for all the countries and included the number of serious cases. Can anyone help me out? It's still in the opening post? |
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Post by laterbloomer on Jul 5, 2020 20:43:10 GMT -5
I'm looking for the site we used to have that had the numbers for all the countries and included the number of serious cases. Can anyone help me out? It's still in the opening post? That one doesn't tell serious cases. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 5, 2020 20:48:07 GMT -5
It's still in the opening post? That one doesn't tell serious cases. Yes it does. You have to dig into it under countries. |
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jul 5, 2020 20:52:04 GMT -5
It's still in the opening post? That one doesn't tell serious cases. |
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Post by laterbloomer on Jul 5, 2020 20:53:16 GMT -5
That one doesn't tell serious cases. Exactly. According to that site 8% of the cases in Canada are serious/critical. |
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Post by laterbloomer on Jul 5, 2020 21:05:03 GMT -5
For you guys it's more like 1% if my math is right. 16,038 serious/critical cases out of 1,560.795 That is a benefit of all the extra asymptomatic cases you are finding because of the massive testing. It makes the numbers look better. Trump just doesn't know how to sell them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 7, 2020 11:36:36 GMT -5
if you are trying to ignore the numbers, selling them is the last thing you want to do.
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Post by Tiny on Jul 7, 2020 12:07:11 GMT -5
For you guys it's more like 1% if my math is right. 16,038 serious/critical cases out of 1,560.795 That is a benefit of all the extra asymptomatic cases you are finding because of the massive testing. It makes the numbers look better. Trump just doesn't know how to sell them. that's still a really scary number... 1.5 million people is less than 1/2 a percent of the population of America. And that's in what, 4 months of collecting data.... and the virus is still circulating and infecting people? That doesn't look better... it looks scarier. (the only way Trump will get a break is if the virus mutates and becomes less deadly. ) |
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Post by oped on Jul 7, 2020 12:14:08 GMT -5
I'll say again... that number for us hasn't changed from 15-16K in months... and still 3-6K people die a week. It is not accurate. LOTS of states have not published data on hospitalizations etc. consistently.
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