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Post by Tiny on Apr 15, 2020 11:31:33 GMT -5
and just incase anyone is thinking hey 25K dead isn't that far from 17K dead... that 25K dead is the total for 30 DAYS. The 17K (I think it was closer to 19K ) dead was for a FULL YEAR. How does Trump NOT make his supporters cringe... and worse - how can they go day to day with the cringing while supporting him? They probably wouldn't tolerate a person like Trump in their daily life or in their family - but he's ok to take orders from (be the leader of our country) and to be held up as a role model. ::cringe::
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 15, 2020 12:15:11 GMT -5
NYC number has been increased by over 3000, those numbers don't include those. The lack of introspection is strong in trump
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 15, 2020 14:39:43 GMT -5
Here's another excellent site for Covid-19 tracking. If you've been checking out the worldmeters site and found yourself irritated that clicking on a US state did not bring up graphs, you can find those graphs here. dj posted a link to this site weeks ago. It's from the NYT and it is paywalled. However, it may be a part of the Times' free coronavirus coverage. If it is part of the free coverage, setting up a free account that will allow you access to this coverage is easy. (It is also very easy to resurrect an old account if you have forgotten your password). I wish that I had better information regarding whether there is a way to get to this site for free and how to do it but I got bored on Sunday and renewed my paid subsciption to the NYT. Perhaps someone who isn't paying the Times a dime could do some investigating and report back to us.
it's part of the "free" coverage. you just have to put in your email address to view it. I used a disused Hotmail account for mine, that I never retrieve email @.
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Post by Tiny on Apr 15, 2020 22:02:38 GMT -5
I think it's safe to say 5000 people died of Covid19 in the US in 2 days (april14th and today april 15th) .... I'm willing to bet another 5K are going to die by the end of the weekend.
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Post by busymom on Apr 21, 2020 11:22:49 GMT -5
Wow! I peeked at the count today, and New York has suffered almost half of the total deaths. Over 19,400 out of a total of 43,495 US citizens lost to this virus.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 21, 2020 12:32:15 GMT -5
Wow! I peeked at the count today, and New York has suffered almost half of the total deaths. Over 19,400 out of a total of 43,495 US citizens lost of this virus. Yes, but one probably-important footnote is that New York's numbers include "probable deaths" in addition to deaths from confirmed cases.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 21, 2020 12:53:11 GMT -5
I was noticing other numbers that are shocking in some states. For example, if Total Cases is to be read as those with confirmed tests, most states have a much higher number of tests performed than confirmed results, on the order of 5:1, 10:1, or 15:1. In New Jersey, half of their tests are positive. Are they really only testing those who are symptomatic, and likely undercounting their real numbers by a large amount?
Another example: With today's report Indiana has passed Washington (until Washington reports later in the day.) Here are the numbers: Indiana - 12,097 cases, 630 deaths, 11,453 active cases. Washington - 12,085 cases, 652 deaths, 9,651 active cases. Delving just a little deeper, that means that Washington shows 1,782 cases no longer active that did not result in death. Presumably, the patient is recovered from the virus. Indiana, with virtually the same number of total cases, shows 14 no longer active. FOURTEEN. Many other states are not much better. Georgia, with 19,881 total cases, shows 31 presumably recovered. Louisiana, with 24,854 total cases, shows 50 presumably recovered. What the hell is going on in these states?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 21, 2020 13:47:44 GMT -5
I was noticing other numbers that are shocking in some states. For example, if Total Cases is to be read as those with confirmed tests, most states have a much higher number of tests performed than confirmed results, on the order of 5:1, 10:1, or 15:1. In New Jersey, half of their tests are positive. Are they really only testing those who are symptomatic, and likely undercounting their real numbers by a large amount? Another example: With today's report Indiana has passed Washington (until Washington reports later in the day.) Here are the numbers: Indiana - 12,097 cases, 630 deaths, 11,453 active cases. Washington - 12,085 cases, 652 deaths, 9,651 active cases. Delving just a little deeper, that means that Washington shows 1,782 cases no longer active that did not result in death. Presumably, the patient is recovered from the virus. Indiana, with virtually the same number of total cases, shows 14 no longer active. FOURTEEN. Many other states are not much better. Georgia, with 19,881 total cases, shows 31 presumably recovered. Louisiana, with 24,854 total cases, shows 50 presumably recovered. What the hell is going on in these states? They are earlier in the curse of the illness. Since it started in WA, they have had the opportunities to have patients recover. Those are all new infections. In addition. if you look at serious/critical cases, at least another 3000 deaths nationally ca be expected, even if no one else gets ill. Finally, suspected cases should be counted. One way to eventually know the severity of this outbreak, we will need to know the "excess' mortality. We can predict pretty accurately based on formulas and historical data how many people "should" have died. We can then remove obvious thinks like accidents, suicides, etc. We are then left with how many dies compared to how many we predict. The excess can be assumed to have dies because of COVID. Will really give an idea about the scope of this disaster. I also think we will blow way past 60,000 this wave
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Post by djAdvocate on May 2, 2020 17:47:41 GMT -5
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Post by kadee79 on May 9, 2020 14:37:10 GMT -5
I also think we will blow way past 60,000 this wave So far today.....79,599 and the day isn't over yet.
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Post by mollyanna58 on May 10, 2020 14:16:20 GMT -5
I got a pop-up on Facebook today, asking if I would participate in a survey by Carnegie Mellon University. I took the survey, and among other things, it asked if I had experienced various symptoms including nasal congestion and runny nose. Yes, I have; I also have itchy, puffy eyelids because of seasonal allergies. The survey did not ask if there were any other reason or diagnosis for the symptoms. So those answers are going to be counted incorrectly.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 26, 2020 12:36:51 GMT -5
From Valuebuy's link in the OP:
Coronavirus Cases:
1,713,654
Deaths:
100,064
Recovered:
468,778
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Post by djAdvocate on May 26, 2020 17:49:18 GMT -5
From Valuebuy's link in the OP: Coronavirus Cases: 1,713,654 Deaths: 100,064Recovered: 468,778 a grim milestone.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 26, 2020 18:10:02 GMT -5
From Valuebuy's link in the OP: Coronavirus Cases: 1,713,654 Deaths: 100,064Recovered: 468,778 a grim milestone. We are just getting started. We aren’t close to taking this seriously enough
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Post by tallguy on May 26, 2020 19:10:56 GMT -5
I do find it interesting to follow what Washington's numbers are. From having the first major outbreak in the country, and leading the nation in number of cases at the beginning, we have now dropped to 20th and will within a couple days be passed again by another state to then be 21st. Not only did Gov. Inslee close things down early, but I also read last week where Seattle is among the most compliant cities in the country for coronavirus restrictions. Things are reopening slowly, but at least there is a plan, rather than merely a reliance on the president's whims. One can certainly argue that the economy needs to reopen quickly, but the reason for reopening quickly should not be someone's political fortunes. Short-sighted stupidity is, however, right in Trump's wheelhouse, and no sacrifice is too great in service to his ego, right?
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 26, 2020 19:15:42 GMT -5
I do find it interesting to follow what Washington's numbers are. From having the first major outbreak in the country, and leading the nation in number of cases at the beginning, we have now dropped to 20th and will within a couple days be passed again by another state to then be 21st. Not only did Gov. Inslee close things down early, but I also read last week where Seattle is among the most compliant cities in the country for coronavirus restrictions. Things are reopening slowly, but at least there is a plan, rather than merely a reliance on the president's whims. One can certainly argue that the economy needs to reopen quickly, but the reason for reopening quickly should not be someone's political fortunes. Short-sighted stupidity is, however, right in Trump's wheelhouse, and no sacrifice is too great in service to his ego, right? Amazing what happens when you have a fact based plan based on science, clear communication, a competent government, and a populace willing to listen
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Post by tallguy on May 26, 2020 19:23:33 GMT -5
I do find it interesting to follow what Washington's numbers are. From having the first major outbreak in the country, and leading the nation in number of cases at the beginning, we have now dropped to 20th and will within a couple days be passed again by another state to then be 21st. Not only did Gov. Inslee close things down early, but I also read last week where Seattle is among the most compliant cities in the country for coronavirus restrictions. Things are reopening slowly, but at least there is a plan, rather than merely a reliance on the president's whims. One can certainly argue that the economy needs to reopen quickly, but the reason for reopening quickly should not be someone's political fortunes. Short-sighted stupidity is, however, right in Trump's wheelhouse, and no sacrifice is too great in service to his ego, right? Amazing what happens when you have a fact based plan based on science, clear communication, a competent government, and a populace willing to listen I know it shocks me. Who woulda thunk that doing that instead of listening to our president would have turned out like that?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 26, 2020 19:42:06 GMT -5
I do find it interesting to follow what Washington's numbers are. From having the first major outbreak in the country, and leading the nation in number of cases at the beginning, we have now dropped to 20th and will within a couple days be passed again by another state to then be 21st. Not only did Gov. Inslee close things down early, but I also read last week where Seattle is among the most compliant cities in the country for coronavirus restrictions. Things are reopening slowly, but at least there is a plan, rather than merely a reliance on the president's whims. One can certainly argue that the economy needs to reopen quickly, but the reason for reopening quickly should not be someone's political fortunes. Short-sighted stupidity is, however, right in Trump's wheelhouse, and no sacrifice is too great in service to his ego, right? I am so grateful that I live in WA
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 26, 2020 20:06:38 GMT -5
Amazing what happens when you have a fact based plan based on science, clear communication, a competent government, and a populace willing to listen I know it shocks me. Who woulda thunk that doing that instead of listening to our president would have turned out like that? It’s almost as if competence matters
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 26, 2020 20:19:40 GMT -5
I do find it interesting to follow what Washington's numbers are. From having the first major outbreak in the country, and leading the nation in number of cases at the beginning, we have now dropped to 20th and will within a couple days be passed again by another state to then be 21st. Not only did Gov. Inslee close things down early, but I also read last week where Seattle is among the most compliant cities in the country for coronavirus restrictions. Things are reopening slowly, but at least there is a plan, rather than merely a reliance on the president's whims. One can certainly argue that the economy needs to reopen quickly, but the reason for reopening quickly should not be someone's political fortunes. Short-sighted stupidity is, however, right in Trump's wheelhouse, and no sacrifice is too great in service to his ego, right? I am so grateful that I live in WA Me too.
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Post by tallguy on May 26, 2020 20:26:14 GMT -5
I am so grateful that I live in WA Me too. No need for me to chime in here, is there? There are a lot of stupid states out there. I'm just glad I am not stupid enough to live in one.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 26, 2020 20:31:22 GMT -5
No need for me to chime in here, is there? There are a lot of stupid states out there. I'm just glad I am not stupid enough to live in one. I will admit, the first time I voted in WA I missed going to the polling place. Actually going and doing made it seem more real. Getting an ‘I voted’ sticker was a badge of pride. It also helped in that wherever I lived, I was very close to a polling place so voting wasn’t a hardship. In KY, I lived about 50 yards from it! At this point, I have seen the advantages.
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Post by tallguy on May 26, 2020 20:47:29 GMT -5
No need for me to chime in here, is there? There are a lot of stupid states out there. I'm just glad I am not stupid enough to live in one. I will admit, the first time I voted in WA I missed going to the polling place. Actually going and doing made it seem more real. Getting an ‘I voted’ sticker was a badge of pride. It also helped in that wherever I lived, I was very close to a polling place so voting wasn’t a hardship. In KY, I lived about 50 yards from it! At this point, I have seen the advantages. I kinda miss it sometimes too. I used to walk three blocks to my old elementary school to vote. During a period of years when it wasn't at the school, my walk to the polling place crossed one street. I'd see the same faces behind the desk, see how many in my precinct had voted.... It was almost fun. This is still easier, and better. Especially now that the envelopes are postage-paid. I don't even have to drop it in the ballot box. I just hand it to the mailman.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 27, 2020 15:25:27 GMT -5
i am starting to wonder if we will even get out of the first wave before the second comes.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 27, 2020 15:42:07 GMT -5
I think it will stay at a level that will fool people into thinking it’s not so bad until fall. That is unless we are really stupid. Wouldn’t put that past us, however
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 2, 2020 14:14:17 GMT -5
Over 107,000 dead. Let's not forget what else is going on in our country.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 2, 2020 14:19:50 GMT -5
Looking at my previous post, I realize I was too optimistic. Because we apparently are really stupid
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Post by busymom on Jun 2, 2020 14:38:43 GMT -5
Looking at my previous post, I realize I was too optimistic. Because we apparently are really stupid Only SOME of us are really stupid. The problem is, sometimes all of us suffer the consequences of the stupid.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Jun 2, 2020 15:04:26 GMT -5
Over 107,000 dead. Let's not forget what else is going on in our country. DD1 & I were talking about this just last night. The rioting has mostly shoved Covid out of the news cycle.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 2, 2020 15:07:15 GMT -5
Looking at my previous post, I realize I was too optimistic. Because we apparently are really stupid Only SOME of us are really stupid. The problem is, sometimes all of us suffer the consequences of the stupid. That was a royal we. Infectious diseases prey on the old, young, sick, and stupid. Only the last one do we have any control over, and those are problems for the rest of us. In addition, the last 3+ years have shown me that we are a whole lot stupidier than I thought, unfortunately.
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