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Post by kadee79 on Nov 1, 2019 22:50:50 GMT -5
Pete does not have a chance! We shall see!
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 1, 2019 23:38:12 GMT -5
Pete does not have a chance! he does. it is not much of a chance, but it is not zero.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 2, 2019 2:36:30 GMT -5
As of right now I would say it is a given he will win. There is literally no one on the Dem side that could beat him especially the platforms they are running on. Just a bunch of ass clowns. Hell that is my opinion and i'm an ass at times. The house will try to impeach if they are successful the senate will do the right thing and shoot it down for the farce that it is. When that happens he will get a huge bump in voters. Remember Trump is a marketeer and will use it to his advantage as that he should. That is what Pelosi is worried about, so far evertyhing they threw at Trump he turned it to his favor. Polls are only good as the information that is taken. Given the election of 2016 you would think the Dems wouldn't try to do the same shit but hell they aren't the smartest ones in the cookie jar. I know I will enjoy watching Chucky Todd wipe his impish grin when they declare Trump the winner next year. The only given is that the Russians will work even harder to keep him in office. Their efforts in 2016 have paid off handsomely for them. For Americans, not so much
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Post by dezii on Nov 2, 2019 5:09:54 GMT -5
Pete does not have a chance! I believe it will be Biden...and expect he will take no s**t...If the Donald creeps up on him in his rear in the Debate as he did with Hillery..I believe he will respond...If he is smart...believe he is..he may have someone in aufience to signal him if the "creep" starts creeping up on him and will have a quick response. already prepared.. I believe if necessary Joe is easily equipped to go "low" if necessary....and can do it with class....unlike his opponent...who we all will admit has no class at all! {Don't believe it will be physical ..after all , it is the Presidential debate and plus one of the parties armed guards have their mission plus will outnumber the others armed guards}
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Post by mroped on Nov 2, 2019 7:08:42 GMT -5
It's been said that most Democrat voters would damage the country, to get their candidate into office. Truth---just look at their last POTUS...kissing Iran ass might as well went straight over there and recruited their candidate It looks to me that you understand international politics and the balance/control of powers of the world just as much as I understand stock market and trust me I tried but still don’t understand how can they create wealth out of thin air. But you still have a chance to understand that! Begin by understanding that the United States likes to think that is the Keeper of the Gates. Other countries beg to differ! Our former president understood that while our present president can’t put a sentence together.
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Post by ednkris on Nov 2, 2019 7:41:22 GMT -5
Truth---just look at their last POTUS...kissing Iran ass might as well went straight over there and recruited their candidate It looks to me that you understand international politics and the balance/control of powers of the world just as much as I understand stock market and trust me I tried but still don’t understand how can they create wealth out of thin air. But you still have a chance to understand that! Begin by understanding that the United States likes to think that is the Keeper of the Gates. Other countries beg to differ! Our former president understood that while our present president can’t put a sentence together. Our last POTUS understood shit. Not only the Us is the keeper we make the rules. Iran is just another "shit hole" country that should go about their business and ask if they can have anything militarily. There is only a few controlling countries, the US, China, Japan, Russia, Germany. That's the real UN.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 7:53:31 GMT -5
It looks to me that you understand international politics and the balance/control of powers of the world just as much as I understand stock market and trust me I tried but still don’t understand how can they create wealth out of thin air. But you still have a chance to understand that! Begin by understanding that the United States likes to think that is the Keeper of the Gates. Other countries beg to differ! Our former president understood that while our present president can’t put a sentence together. Our last POTUS understood shit. Not only the Us is the keeper we make the rules. Iran is just another "shit hole" country that should go about their business and ask if they can have anything militarily. There is only a few controlling countries, the US, China, Japan, Russia, Germany. That's the real UN. WOW It is Americans with views like these they are causing us to bankrupt ourselves militarily. Have you ever actually seen pictures of Tehran or other large cities in Iran? Far from a shithole. Have you ever watched “The Man in the High Castle” on Amazon Video? I think you would like their alternate version of history, two absolute powers controlling the world with everyone else subjugated.
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Post by ednkris on Nov 2, 2019 8:43:05 GMT -5
Our last POTUS understood shit. Not only the Us is the keeper we make the rules. Iran is just another "shit hole" country that should go about their business and ask if they can have anything militarily. There is only a few controlling countries, the US, China, Japan, Russia, Germany. That's the real UN. WOW It is Americans with views like these they are causing us to bankrupt ourselves militarily. Have you ever actually seen pictures of Tehran or other large cities in Iran? Far from a shithole. Have you ever watched “The Man in the High Castle” on Amazon Video? I think you would like their alternate version of history, two absolute powers controlling the world with everyone else subjugated. Big buildings don't impress me. Maybe my 4yr old grandson thats about it. We need to double our military budget maybe triple
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 8:56:21 GMT -5
WOW It is Americans with views like these they are causing us to bankrupt ourselves militarily. Have you ever actually seen pictures of Tehran or other large cities in Iran? Far from a shithole. Have you ever watched “The Man in the High Castle” on Amazon Video? I think you would like their alternate version of history, two absolute powers controlling the world with everyone else subjugated. Big buildings don't impress me. Maybe my 4yr old grandson thats about it. We need to double our military budget maybe triple Again, The Man in the High Castle, you’ll love it. Complete military state ideology. What does impress you? And pretty much as I though, you haven’t really viewed any pictures of Iran. How do you propose we pay to double and triple the size of the military when we can’t pay for the cost of the existing one? How shall we subjugate the masses, do they have to adopt our cultural norms? Should we start with Canada since they are closest?
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Post by ednkris on Nov 2, 2019 9:02:43 GMT -5
Big buildings don't impress me. Maybe my 4yr old grandson thats about it. We need to double our military budget maybe triple Again, The Man in the High Castle, you’ll love it. Complete military state ideology. What does impress you? And pretty much as I though, you haven’t really viewed any pictures of Iran. How do you propose we pay to double and triple the size of the military when we can’t pay for the cost of the existing one? How shall we subjugate the masses, do they have to adopt our cultural norms? Should we start with Canada since they are closest? I don't watch tv much...maybe some news only fox of course yes i seen pics of Iran like i said don't impress me sorry paying for military not for me to figure i just put it out there, we can start by cutting out all the money that goes out to other countries and charge them to help them I don't want to change other countries cultures. They don't have to be like us. i don't recall ever saying that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 9:09:16 GMT -5
Again, The Man in the High Castle, you’ll love it. Complete military state ideology. What does impress you? And pretty much as I though, you haven’t really viewed any pictures of Iran. How do you propose we pay to double and triple the size of the military when we can’t pay for the cost of the existing one? How shall we subjugate the masses, do they have to adopt our cultural norms? Should we start with Canada since they are closest? I don't watch tv much...maybe some news only fox of course yes i seen pics of Iran like i said don't impress me sorry paying for military not for me to figure i just put it out there, we can start by cutting out all the money that goes out to other countries and charge them to help them I don't want to change other countries cultures. They don't have to be like us. i don't recall ever saying that Cutting out aide to other countries, I believe about roughly 10 percent of the defense budget and it wouldn’t even make up our shortfall, next proposal? Our current military budget has the homeland secured from invasion and then some so what are the double and triple forces for if not conquest?
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 2, 2019 9:27:02 GMT -5
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 2, 2019 9:30:18 GMT -5
President Trump can use it to fulfill his campaign promises and bribe foreign countries to get dirt on his political opponents.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 9:48:33 GMT -5
I am sticking with my original prediction Trump wins in 20 with the electoral college while losing the popular vote by a greater margin than 16.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 2, 2019 10:17:22 GMT -5
WOW It is Americans with views like these they are causing us to bankrupt ourselves militarily. Have you ever actually seen pictures of Tehran or other large cities in Iran? Far from a shithole. Have you ever watched “The Man in the High Castle” on Amazon Video? I think you would like their alternate version of history, two absolute powers controlling the world with everyone else subjugated. Big buildings don't impress me. Maybe my 4yr old grandson thats about it. We need to double our military budget maybe triple we need to halve it, imo. so there we fundamentally disagree.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 2, 2019 10:21:36 GMT -5
Again, The Man in the High Castle, you’ll love it. Complete military state ideology. What does impress you? And pretty much as I though, you haven’t really viewed any pictures of Iran. How do you propose we pay to double and triple the size of the military when we can’t pay for the cost of the existing one? How shall we subjugate the masses, do they have to adopt our cultural norms? Should we start with Canada since they are closest? I don't watch tv much...maybe some news only fox of course yes i seen pics of Iran like i said don't impress me sorry paying for military not for me to figure i just put it out there, we can start by cutting out all the money that goes out to other countries and charge them to help them cutting 100% of US foreign aid would get you $50B. our military budget is $700B. in order to "double or triple it" you would need to find 14-28x as much money.
how about cutting all social security? that would double the military budget.
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Post by dondub on Nov 2, 2019 10:34:48 GMT -5
WOW It is Americans with views like these they are causing us to bankrupt ourselves militarily. Have you ever actually seen pictures of Tehran or other large cities in Iran? Far from a shithole. Have you ever watched “The Man in the High Castle” on Amazon Video? I think you would like their alternate version of history, two absolute powers controlling the world with everyone else subjugated. Big buildings don't impress me. Maybe my 4yr old grandson thats about it. We need to double our military budget maybe triple Jingoistic attitudes such as this are leading us down the path towards bankruptcy. Even doubling defense spending (let alone the paranoia based tripling) would insure the financial destruction of our country. Your 4 year old grandson can help you understand that.
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Post by phil5185 on Nov 2, 2019 10:52:11 GMT -5
"would insure the financial destruction of our country"
During the 5-year period of WW2, we built 1000s of destroyers, carriers, bombers, fighter planes, tanks, jeeps, weapons, invented the a-bomb, yada. And we had unparalleled financial successes immediately thereafter.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 2, 2019 11:03:54 GMT -5
"would insure the financial destruction of our country" During the 5-year period of WW2, we built 1000s of destroyers, carriers, bombers, fighter planes, tanks, jeeps, weapons, invented the a-bomb, yada. And we had unparalleled financial successes immediately thereafter. I think the war was a necessary factor in this situation. Is duplicating that a part of your proposal?
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 2, 2019 11:10:46 GMT -5
"would insure the financial destruction of our country" During the 5-year period of WW2, we built 1000s of destroyers, carriers, bombers, fighter planes, tanks, jeeps, weapons, invented the a-bomb, yada. And we had unparalleled financial successes immediately thereafter. we had unparalleled debt thereafter, as well.
we also had 90% top tier income tax rates to pay for it that persisted 20 years after the fact.
are you suggesting that we should go back to either of those? both?
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Post by dondub on Nov 2, 2019 11:30:11 GMT -5
"would insure the financial destruction of our country" During the 5-year period of WW2, we built 1000s of destroyers, carriers, bombers, fighter planes, tanks, jeeps, weapons, invented the a-bomb, yada. And we had unparalleled financial successes immediately thereafter. And the worldwide competitors? Russia, Japan, England, Germany? Are you forgetting something Phil?
But if you want to believe that A. We need to double or triple our military and that B. This will lead to unparalleled financial success instead of bankruptcy, go ahead. What's another 700B- 1.4T added to the annual bloated fiscally responsible Repo-Con debt of the last 40 years.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 2, 2019 11:43:17 GMT -5
If a progressive wins the democratic nomination, I think it will help trump. If they get nominate a moderate I think it will be much harder for trump. I voted against Hillary last time. I will wait to see who is nominated this time but odds are they will be too liberal for me.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 2, 2019 19:57:42 GMT -5
If Hillary were running, she would be the MOST moderate, so I gather from that you think Trump will win?
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Post by ednkris on Nov 2, 2019 20:11:38 GMT -5
I don't watch tv much...maybe some news only fox of course yes i seen pics of Iran like i said don't impress me sorry paying for military not for me to figure i just put it out there, we can start by cutting out all the money that goes out to other countries and charge them to help them cutting 100% of US foreign aid would get you $50B. our military budget is $700B. in order to "double or triple it" you would need to find 14-28x as much money.
how about cutting all social security? that would double the military budget.
How about deleting obamacare that would give it a nice bump
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 2, 2019 20:42:46 GMT -5
cutting 100% of US foreign aid would get you $50B. our military budget is $700B. in order to "double or triple it" you would need to find 14-28x as much money.
how about cutting all social security? that would double the military budget.
How about deleting obamacare that would give it a nice bump depending on who you talk to, something less than $200B.
why do you want to double the defense budget. is it not enough to spend 4x as much as China, and 10x as much as Russia?
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Post by ednkris on Nov 2, 2019 20:59:10 GMT -5
How about deleting obamacare that would give it a nice bump depending on who you talk to, something less than $200B.
why do you want to double the defense budget. is it not enough to spend 4x as much as China, and 10x as much as Russia?
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't care what we spend on defense. Protecting our country is one of the most important job of the govt if not the most important.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Nov 2, 2019 21:06:32 GMT -5
If we continue like it is the only thing that will matter is when Russian troops march through our streets we swear allegiance. Sounds like some here are ready to do just that. Will our generals have to perform a coup to save us? It will happen at some time in the next 5 years if he is back in. I will likely be to old and sick to fight, but I will try.
How can you be so blind as to what he is doing. I just got sick of some presumably religious person on facebook kissing trumps butt while he is turning us into a dictatorship with his phoney alliances with his false show of Christianity. I blocked her, had enough. he would swear allegiance to the devil if he has to, and he may have already done so. She has no idea, she listens to the far right Christian stuff and to fox news. They will destroy this country. I hate to see it happening.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 2, 2019 21:19:29 GMT -5
depending on who you talk to, something less than $200B.
why do you want to double the defense budget. is it not enough to spend 4x as much as China, and 10x as much as Russia?
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't care what we spend on defense. Protecting our country is one of the most important job of the govt if not the most important. basically what I am saying is that we spend 4x as much as our closest competitor, and our deficits are approaching $1T.
until you explain to me how we are going to pay for the increase, i think we are spending more than we should be.
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Post by dondub on Nov 3, 2019 0:42:30 GMT -5
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't care what we spend on defense. Protecting our country is one of the most important job of the govt if not the most important. basically what I am saying is that we spend 4x as much as our closest competitor, and our deficits are approaching $1T.
until you explain to me how we are going to pay for the increase, i think we are spending more than we should be.
Well the American Jingo culture IS willing to spend us into bankruptcy because of their paranoic fear. Just the cluster of Trident subs an hour ferry ride and 20 minute drive from my house could do a hell of a job destroying planet earth. That we are armed to the teeth well beyond what is necessary for Ed’s defense prevents us from doing so much needed ‘stuff’ such as massive infrastructure programs featuring living wage jobs for all the Trump white boys with HS educations. We could expand Obamacare so right to lifers don’t have as many deaths on their shoulders AND could keep their perfect Godlike doctors instead of finding better ones. Heck, we could even pay down the massive debt the Repo-Cons have saddled us with so they could still pretend they are fiscally conservative.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 3, 2019 5:46:21 GMT -5
depending on who you talk to, something less than $200B.
why do you want to double the defense budget. is it not enough to spend 4x as much as China, and 10x as much as Russia?
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't care what we spend on defense. Protecting our country is one of the most important job of the govt if not the most important. The Russians spent themselves into bankruptcy - that’s what ended the cold war. We need to be smart, not stupid. The notion that more military spending would make us safer is one of the dumbest ideas out there.
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