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Post by ednkris on Dec 15, 2018 23:41:37 GMT -5
I love it when Trump supporters make the claim “he is doing the job thta he was sent there to do!” What job exactly? Tweeting? Enriching his family and acolytes through exemptions from the very EO tha he is signing for the rest of the country? Making claims and promises that he would never keep? The economy was headed this way, towards a boom. You don’t revive the biggest economy in the world overnight and expect positive results tomorrow morning! It takes years for benefits to show. The same, it takes years for damages to show. What rubs me the wrong way is that right now we have this know nothing in office that rides the wave of the 8 years of hard work of the previous administration, in another year or so all will be in the crapper, people will get upset and switch over to support a democrat whom will promptly get to work and try to fix or revive things, 8 years will go by and all is good and we decide to shit in the middle of the room AGAIN and elect another moron for president that will again collect all the congratulations for the great job he is doing without doing a damned thing. Rinse and repeat! And we still don’t learn! Out of curiosity: what was Trump sent to do? Make everybody hate us? Make us despise each other? All this claims but no concrete example. If you’d be so kind when you make such a claim, lay out for us the dummies an example of these “great achievements” Much appreciated! This. A few months ago, trump and his trumpets were crowing about the bull market (which began under Obama). The economy has been steadily growing since Obama pulled us back from the brink, but trump’s ignorant base pretends this know-nothing has actually accomplished something positive. Obama did squat for businesses. The biggest failure of all time obamacare, that penalize you if you don't buy it. The first time in our history that forces you to buy healthcare. Huge huge (Trump fashion) numbers on weflare and the left thinks that is a good accomplishment. It should be how many can we get off welfare, with jobs that's right that happened under Trump. Wasn't it obama that said 2% GDP is the new normal? The slowest recovery in decades because of his administration ineffectiveness. Lest not forget every one complaining about the money Trump is spending obama inheitated a mess yes I said it, but he had 8 years to improve the debt instead he doubled it.. please as far as I'm concerned give Trump 500 billion for a wall if that's what he wants he will never put more debt on than Obama did in 8 years. I live in south carolina all I see around is infrastructure building, manufacturing adding additions, new manufacturing none of this happened under Obama. As far as other countries and what they think of us. All they want is our financial and military support. They saw the USA as weak especially with Obama apology tour. He wasn't showing respect he was showing weakness. I love the way Trump calls them out, they should pay us for our help. As far as immigration we should suspend all immigration an asylum seekers until they can figure out how to enforce the rules and laws we have. I don't want to see any child hurt or die....no one in until it's figure out I am a nationalist there is not better place to live than here. You want t come and live here earn it learn our language, Obide by our laws, pledge allegiance to our flag if not your not welcome here |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 17, 2018 0:39:01 GMT -5
Russian probe against Trump...failure The Daca issue ...failure Hooker gate...failure Trying to use his bloviation as lying ....failure He keeps making the liberals and dems heads explode. Just look at this board whine, complain, bitch saying oh Trump this and Trump that ooooh another bad thing yet he is not going anywhere and most likely serve a 2nd term ( thank god ). i am as liberal as they come, and the only thing exploding is the silence in the bedroom as i burst into peals of laughter reading your post. thanks for the levity, ed. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 17, 2018 0:40:12 GMT -5
This. A few months ago, trump and his trumpets were crowing about the bull market (which began under Obama). The economy has been steadily growing since Obama pulled us back from the brink, but trump’s ignorant base pretends this know-nothing has actually accomplished something positive. Obama did squat for businesses. The biggest failure of all time obamacare, that penalize you if you don't buy it. The first time in our history that forces you to buy healthcare. actually, the ACA doesn't force you to buy healthcare, it forces you to buy insurance. and no, it is not the first law to do that.
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Post by weltschmerz on Dec 17, 2018 2:37:40 GMT -5
"I am a nationalist there is not better place to live than here. You want t come and live here earn it learn our language, Obide by our laws, pledge allegiance to our flag if not your not welcome here"ROTFLMAO! When are YOU going to learn the language? Did you write this sign for one of the Tea Party rallies? 
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Post by resolution on Dec 17, 2018 7:24:58 GMT -5
Russian probe against Trump...failure The Daca issue ...failure Hooker gate...failure Trying to use his bloviation as lying ....failure He keeps making the liberals and dems heads explode. Just look at this board whine, complain, bitch saying oh Trump this and Trump that ooooh another bad thing yet he is not going anywhere and most likely serve a 2nd term ( thank god ). i am as liberal as they come, and the only thing exploding is the silence in the bedroom as i burst into peals of laughter reading your post. thanks for the levity, ed. I guess this is one of the Republican Party's major achievements, because I remember you being a slightly right leaning moderate and now you are as liberal as they come! I have also gotten a lot more liberal, and am at the point of openly telling my family in WV that I won't ever move across the border (from MD to WV) because I like having roads I can drive on, snow plow service, and a state sponsored healthcare exchange. |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 17, 2018 21:50:43 GMT -5
"I am a nationalist there is not better place to live than here. You want t come and live here earn it learn our language, Obide by our laws, pledge allegiance to our flag if not your not welcome here"ROTFLMAO! When are YOU going to learn the language? Did you write this sign for one of the Tea Party rallies? You are a hoot..so petty |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 17, 2018 21:52:48 GMT -5
Russian probe against Trump...failure The Daca issue ...failure Hooker gate...failure Trying to use his bloviation as lying ....failure He keeps making the liberals and dems heads explode. Just look at this board whine, complain, bitch saying oh Trump this and Trump that ooooh another bad thing yet he is not going anywhere and most likely serve a 2nd term ( thank god ). i am as liberal as they come, and the only thing exploding is the silence in the bedroom as i burst into peals of laughter reading your post. thanks for the levity, ed. Glad I can brighten your day |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 17, 2018 21:54:37 GMT -5
Obama did squat for businesses. The biggest failure of all time obamacare, that penalize you if you don't buy it. The first time in our history that forces you to buy healthcare. actually, the ACA doesn't force you to buy healthcare, it forces you to buy insurance. and no, it is not the first law to do that.
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Post by ednkris on Dec 17, 2018 21:55:32 GMT -5
Facts are inconvient for trumpets And who was in charge in 2012? |
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 18, 2018 0:26:18 GMT -5
Facts are inconvient for trumpets And who was in charge in 2012? Barack Obama was president from January of 2009 until January of 2017. He took office after the start of The Great Recession ( link) and had to enact policies to get the economy through it. |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 18, 2018 7:23:09 GMT -5
And who was in charge in 2012? Barack Obama was president from January of 2009 until January of 2017. He took office after the start of The Great Recession ( link) and had to enact policies to get the economy through it. Exactly...and he still doubled the debt....spin spin it ...just don't own true democrats |
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Barack Obama was president from January of 2009 until January of 2017. He took office after the start of The Great Recession ( link) and had to enact policies to get the economy through it. Exactly...and he still doubled the debt....spin spin it ...just don't own true democrats If you wish to see historical context as "spin", so be it. 2018 debt issuance also jumped 146% from 2017, when just $546 billion was issued. link Another little "spin" for you, 2017 was under a President Obama budget for the most part. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 18, 2018 12:13:19 GMT -5
actually, the ACA doesn't force you to buy healthcare, it forces you to buy insurance. and no, it is not the first law to do that.
It was the it law to fine you if you didn't buy it. If I'm wrong please correct me that had nothing to do with my point. my point was twofold: 1) the ACA doesn't force you to buy healthcare. it forces you to buy INSURACE. 2) the ACA was not the first law to force you to buy insurance. |
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Barack Obama was president from January of 2009 until January of 2017. He took office after the start of The Great Recession ( link) and had to enact policies to get the economy through it. Exactly...and he still doubled the debt....spin spin it ...just don't own true democrats more like 50%. Obama added approximately $6.786T to the debt. here is a question for you: do you expect Trump to do any better on an annual basis?
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Post by ednkris on Dec 18, 2018 21:36:05 GMT -5
Exactly...and he still doubled the debt....spin spin it ...just don't own true democrats more like 50%. Obama added approximately $6.786T to the debt. here is a question for you: do you expect Trump to do any better on an annual basis?
I would disagree the actual amount of debt added was 8.58 trillion. The ssa took in a surplus and he used that money to make it look better. No one wants to talk about the useager of ss funds. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 18, 2018 23:05:02 GMT -5
more like 50%. Obama added approximately $6.786T to the debt. here is a question for you: do you expect Trump to do any better on an annual basis?
. The ssa took in a surplus and he used that money to make it look better. No one wants to talk about the useager of ss funds. that is because you are counting the 2008FY. but here is the problem with that....by the time Obama took office, $1.2T was already spent. Obama had nothing to do with that, other than his Senate vote. so, if you subtract $1.2T from that, we can get to "around $7T", which i think is an acceptable compromise.  edit: would you mind answering the second half? do you think that Trump will do better than averaging $0.9T/year in added debt?
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Post by ednkris on Dec 19, 2018 7:40:09 GMT -5
I would disagree the actual amount of debt added was 8.58 trillion. The ssa took in a surplus and he used that money to make it look better. No one wants to talk about the useager of ss funds. that is because you are counting the 2008FY. but here is the problem with that....by the time Obama took office, $1.2T was already spent. Obama had nothing to do with that, other than his Senate vote. so, if you subtract $1.2T from that, we can get to "around $7T", which i think is an acceptable compromise. edit: would you mind answering the second half? do you think that Trump will do better than averaging $0.9T/year in added debt?
As of right now he is higher than that avg. Overall given 8 years I'm comfortable saying he would do better |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 19, 2018 7:44:49 GMT -5
I would disagree the actual amount of debt added was 8.58 trillion. The ssa took in a surplus and he used that money to make it look better. No one wants to talk about the useager of ss funds. that is because you are counting the 2008FY. but here is the problem with that....by the time Obama took office, $1.2T was already spent. Obama had nothing to do with that, other than his Senate vote. so, if you subtract $1.2T from that, we can get to "around $7T", which i think is an acceptable compromise. edit: would you mind answering the second half? do you think that Trump will do better than averaging $0.9T/year in added debt?
No I did not add in 2008 Fy it was 8.58T ..I used the information from thebalance.com |
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I am a nationalist there is not better place to live than here. You want t come and live here earn it learn our language, Obide by our laws, pledge allegiance to our flag if not your not welcome here No, you are not a nationalist! You are apparently just an individual that has no clue whatsoever about what this nation is about at its core. Just to prove my point: what exactly is the language that one would learn just in order to be a good American? Name that and by God I’ll donate $500 for Trump’s stupid wall! If you can’t or don’t have an answer then please, please do yourself a favor and read the Constitution! |
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I am a nationalist there is not better place to live than here. You want t come and live here earn it learn our language, Obide by our laws, pledge allegiance to our flag if not your not welcome here No, you are not a nationalist! You are apparently just an individual that has no clue whatsoever about what this nation is about at its core. Just to prove my point: what exactly is the language that one would learn just in order to be a good American? Name that and by God I’ll donate $500 for Trump’s stupid wall! If you can’t or don’t have an answer then please, please do yourself a favor and read the Constitution! Interesting post from someone who insists immigrants learn English. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 21, 2018 16:40:56 GMT -5
that is because you are counting the 2008FY. but here is the problem with that....by the time Obama took office, $1.2T was already spent. Obama had nothing to do with that, other than his Senate vote. so, if you subtract $1.2T from that, we can get to "around $7T", which i think is an acceptable compromise. edit: would you mind answering the second half? do you think that Trump will do better than averaging $0.9T/year in added debt?
As of right now he is higher than that avg. Overall given 8 years I'm comfortable saying he would do better let's stick with annual averages. that way we can judge him on a year by year basis. so, i take that as a yes. i am fairly confident he will be the worst spendthrift since FDR.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 21, 2018 16:44:21 GMT -5
more like 50%. Obama added approximately $6.786T to the debt. here is a question for you: do you expect Trump to do any better on an annual basis?
I would disagree the actual amount of debt added was 8.58 trillion. The ssa took in a surplus and he used that money to make it look better. No one wants to talk about the useager of ss funds. you are confusing debt with deficit. when funds are borrowed from SSA they add to the DEBT but not to the DEFICIT (if there is a surplus in SSA). therefore it has nothing to do with our discussion, which as i clearly stated is one regarding the DEBT. |
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This. A few months ago, trump and his trumpets were crowing about the bull market (which began under Obama). The economy has been steadily growing since Obama pulled us back from the brink, but trump’s ignorant base pretends this know-nothing has actually accomplished something positive. Obama did squat for businesses. The biggest failure of all time obamacare, that penalize you if you don't buy it. The first time in our history that forces you to buy healthcare. Huge huge (Trump fashion) numbers on weflare and the left thinks that is a good accomplishment. It should be how many can we get off welfare, with jobs that's right that happened under Trump. Wasn't it obama that said 2% GDP is the new normal? The slowest recovery in decades because of his administration ineffectiveness. Lest not forget every one complaining about the money Trump is spending obama inheitated a mess yes I said it, but he figure out I am a nationalist there is not better place to live than here. You want t come and live here earn it learn our language, Obide by our laws, pledge allegiance to our flag if not your not welcome here Do you mean “You want to come and live here?” and learn our language”? and “ abide by our laws” and “ you’re not welcome” and I won’t even get into the punctuation issues..... I don’t normally point out spelling, grammar or punctuation errors, but when they are coming from someone telling others to learn the language, I can’t help myself...  |
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 21, 2018 17:12:44 GMT -5
i hear it a lot from people who have never lived or even CONSIDERED living somewhere else. |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Dec 21, 2018 17:18:51 GMT -5
i hear it a lot from people who have never lived or even CONSIDERED living somewhere else. I hear it a lot from people who have never BEEN outside the US (except, maybe, Canada or Mexico) |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 21, 2018 23:16:23 GMT -5
I am a nationalist there is not better place to live than here. You want t come and live here earn it learn our language, Obide by our laws, pledge allegiance to our flag if not your not welcome here No, you are not a nationalist! You are apparently just an individual that has no clue whatsoever about what this nation is about at its core. Just to prove my point: what exactly is the language that one would learn just in order to be a good American? Name that and by God I’ll donate $500 for Trump’s stupid wall! If you can’t or don’t have an answer then please, please do yourself a favor and read the Constitution! Well yes I am just because you don't think so oh well your opinion of me matters just as much as your opinion of Trump. As far as the language it would be English, although there's no "official" language listed for the United States over half the states reconize English as the official language. If you want to discuss the Constitution let's go!!!! |
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Post by ednkris on Dec 21, 2018 23:22:22 GMT -5
i hear it a lot from people who have never lived or even CONSIDERED living somewhere else. I hear it a lot from people who have never BEEN outside the US (except, maybe, Canada or Mexico) DJ is right I haven't lived outside of the US. I have travelled and seen enough to know we have it better here. Then again if you like living where there are huge taxes to support socialist programs by all means live in those areas. |
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