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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 12:19:19 GMT -5
lmao... his organization has a lawyer on retainer... oooohhh my ... so does everyone else's ... lol...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 12:21:13 GMT -5
This page has articles from day one of the BC controversy, if anyone is interested in how this all played out. There are a lot of them. www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546THE FULL STORY Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve? WND's complete archive of news reports on the issue -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: April 11, 2011 12:50 am Eastern © 2011 WorldNetDaily
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 12:37:24 GMT -5
Sweetie... do you know anything about checking a source, looking for bias, evaluating an argument? There is a good book i can recommend... i've been using it with my kids... it might help....
World Net Daily's agenda is anti-Obama/pro-birther... of course they have a lot of 'articles' on there... blogging, however, is NOT synonymous with 'news reports' on the issue...
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 13, 2011 13:05:58 GMT -5
Even his high school is in on the conspiracy!!!1! And hey wait, what's this "Barry" stuff, that wasn't on his birth certificate! Also that picture is doctored up. See the basketball on the left hand picture? My friend's cousin's mailman's hairdresser knows a guy who makes basketballs for a living, and he said that model wasn't made until the year after Obama supposedly graduated from high school. Also notice how the lighting is different in all the pictures... Fake! I tell you! Faaake!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 20:37:59 GMT -5
Check out the beer bottle!! Barry was a party boy. LOL!!! Would a high school put that in their yearbook??? That is absolute proof that he is an alien and made everything up!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Apr 13, 2011 22:45:21 GMT -5
PBP, can you prove this? "Obama completed high school as President Obama" I found a few pics of Obama in high school and they all say Barack Obamabama. Barry doesn't deny this fact. I don't see a need to prove something he admits. If he did go by Obama- then why not produce the legal paperwork that shows when he legally changed his name to Obama from ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 22:49:22 GMT -5
I'm sorry... where is the legal paperwork saying he changed his name TO ? ... you hiding up your bum again?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 23:01:34 GMT -5
I would assume the adoption papers are in Indonesia, but the record of changing his name and citizenship back should be here. Bot of course they are not.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Apr 13, 2011 23:09:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 23:09:59 GMT -5
You mean like the birth certificate Obama showed? ... lol...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 23:11:29 GMT -5
Why is that funny?
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 14, 2011 2:42:12 GMT -5
I would assume the adoption papers are in Indonesia, but the record of changing his name and citizenship back should be here. Bot of course they are not.
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Post by Opti on Apr 14, 2011 9:50:40 GMT -5
PBP, can you prove this? "Obama completed high school as President Obama" I found a few pics of Obama in high school and they all say Barack Obamabama. Barry doesn't deny this fact. I don't see a need to prove something he admits. If he did go by Obama- then why not produce the legal paperwork that shows when he legally changed his name to Obama from ? Show me the evidence that he admits this "fact". I couldn't find anything on it doing internet searchs. My guess is he used the name President Obama when he was Indonesia because of how his adopted father registered him for school and kept using Barry. There is no evidence he was adopted just supposition due to policies in Indonesia at the time. Its quite possible he was never adopted and therefore there are no legal name changes to be found. I have worked with many foreigners in my IT career and many of them use Americanized names without any legal name changes. In fact once I was shocked when collecting money for something to see one Korean guy's check as the name on the check had no intersection with the name I knew him as.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 9:55:19 GMT -5
It is also just as possible that he WAS adopted in Indonesia.........
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 14, 2011 10:09:21 GMT -5
Is there some law that you can't run for President if you change your name? Or produce an argument that shows this is relevant. Desperate much?
LOL, because it isn't required at the federal level? And how many jobs! jobs! jobs! will this create?
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 14, 2011 10:09:39 GMT -5
The President of the United States of America, the most powerful man in the world, was (or wasn't) adopted, did (or didn't) have the legal name President Obama, etc, etc...
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A young boy, at the whim of the adults in his life, was (or wasn't) adopted, did (or didn't) have the legal name President Obama, etc, etc...
These things are discussed as if the man before us did (or did not do) them. A young boy was carried along in the wake of a woman's life without him having control. Fault him for what he has had control of all you want, but to fault him for what he didn't is absurd.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 10:47:45 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I like to know exactly who my potus is. Does not matter if it is his fault or not that his flaky communist mother dragged him around the globe. Just clear up the many mysteries is they are harmless, and let's move on. He's had more than one SS number, too. II have had 4 names in myy life, and only one SS number. SO-- what's up with that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 10:49:31 GMT -5
Sorry for typos. This cast on my arm makes the keys double type-- heavy cast. I may stop correcting them soon.Too much hassle. Apologies.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 14, 2011 12:26:35 GMT -5
Barry doesn't deny this fact. I don't see a need to prove something he admits. If he did go by Obama- then why not produce the legal paperwork that shows when he legally changed his name to Obama from ? Show me the evidence that he admits this "fact". I couldn't find anything on it doing internet searchs. My guess is he used the name President Obama when he was Indonesia because of how his adopted father registered him for school and kept using Barry. There is no evidence he was adopted just supposition due to policies in Indonesia at the time. Its quite possible he was never adopted and therefore there are no legal name changes to be found. I have worked with many foreigners in my IT career and many of them use Americanized names without any legal name changes. In fact once I was shocked when collecting money for something to see one Korean guy's check as the name on the check had no intersection with the name I knew him as. Renunciation ||(of citizenship) for Minor ChildrenParents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship. United States common law establishes an arbitrary limit of age fourteen under which a child's understanding must be established by substantial evidence. immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-renunciation.html?DCMP=KNC-Immigration-Law&HBX_PK=renunciation+of+citizenship&HBX_OU=50
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 12:29:32 GMT -5
So-- is he a dual citizen.. not allowed.. or did Lolo break the law in Indonesia. Curious minds want to know.
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 14, 2011 12:31:37 GMT -5
Sorry for typos. This cast on my arm makes the keys double type-- heavy cast. I may stop correcting them soon.Too much hassle. Apologies. One thing that helped when I had a cast on was to turn up the volume on my XM Radio station and listen to classic music which might help to get your mind off of thinking about your arm....I now like to listen to the Golden Oldies Music in case you were curious to know
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 14, 2011 12:49:20 GMT -5
My two favorites are the Baseball channel and the old time radio programs, love my XM, on Baseball right now.
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Post by Opti on Apr 14, 2011 12:50:36 GMT -5
www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/02/hollister-v-indonesian-citizenship-law/The rather complicated Article 3 is of interest. It says that a child cannot acquire Indonesian citizenship if it would create dual citizenship unless the child is able to renounce said citizenship (which an American child is unable to do). (1)A child outside a marriage of a mother who is a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia or a child out of a legal marriage, but who has in a case of divorce been assigned to the care of its mother, a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia, who follows the nationality of the father, a foreigner, may present a petition to the Minister of Justice in order to acquire the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if, after, having acquired the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, it possesses no other nationality or states at the same time to have released another nationality according to the procedure stipulated by the legal provisions of the country of origin and/or according to the procedure stipulated by the agreement on the settlement of the bi-nationality between the Republic of Indonesia and the country in question. Of course there is no “legal provision” of the United States whereby a minor could release his US Citizenship. This is similar to 5h which also restricts citizenship to those for which it would create dual citizenship. Yet another non issue. Why not do something novel like come up with good candidates and policies to help the American people instead of wasting energy on this.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 14, 2011 12:51:26 GMT -5
So-- is he a dual citizen.. not allowed.. or did Lolo break the law in Indonesia. Curious minds want to know. You first have to produce (legal) documentation he was a citizen of Indonesia to make that claim he held dual citizenship.
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Post by Opti on Apr 14, 2011 12:51:50 GMT -5
So-- is he a dual citizen.. not allowed.. or did Lolo break the law in Indonesia. Curious minds want to know. FYI, if you read from the link I posted there is no evidence there were laws for Lolo to break.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 12:58:31 GMT -5
He was registered in school as President Obama, Indonesian citizen, Muslim faith. We have seen those records, and I never saw them debunked.
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Post by EVT1 on Apr 14, 2011 13:03:50 GMT -5
The AZ Senate just passed a bill that will now go to the House requiring Presidential candidates to furnish proof of US birth Man AZ is on a roll. Worst. Senate. Ever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 13:12:38 GMT -5
That does not state that Lolo lied or did not lie, and it does say he could havve dual citizenship, which is against the rules for POTUS, isn't it? We do not know who Obama is.
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