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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 21, 2015 11:31:24 GMT -5
I accept neither. He's not a woman, she's not black. Easily verifiable. Reality has a way of getting into the way of wishful thinking. I live in reality. You and I and the approximately 9 other people in this country that live in our community should get together sometime. wishful thinking is a really weird phrase in this context, but by all means, get together.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 21, 2015 11:34:53 GMT -5
I so disagree with that.
When I was young I didn't get Headstart or any of those other programs. I had to go to a private preschool out on the Island, where I was surrounded by aspiring do be's. I never had the benefit of public schools, as my parents took me private all the way, from that pre-school up through Phillips Exeter and Harvard. The competition was brutal, and we had male cheerleaders. Not pretty.
Upon graduation I was thrust into an intense job on the management track where I really had no peers to relate to. It was sink or swim! After Dad bought a controlling interest in the company and I became CEO by dint of my hard work, Buffy and I had our first of three children.
The pressures on me are intense. I have to provide for the little ones, and private school isn't cheap! Of course Buffy needs the best of everything, and maintaining the house in the Hamptons is a constant headache. Oh the phone calls to contractors! Anywho, I'll get by because I'm tough, and came up through the school of hard knocks. When you're a self made man like me you realize that you really did build it. I know that is supposed to be funny but its bullshit. Life is hard for everyone. It is the first noble truth. there is another truth. i have had a very easy time of things compared to others.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 21, 2015 13:41:45 GMT -5
I so disagree with that.
When I was young I didn't get Headstart or any of those other programs. I had to go to a private preschool out on the Island, where I was surrounded by aspiring do be's. I never had the benefit of public schools, as my parents took me private all the way, from that pre-school up through Phillips Exeter and Harvard. The competition was brutal, and we had male cheerleaders. Not pretty.
Upon graduation I was thrust into an intense job on the management track where I really had no peers to relate to. It was sink or swim! After Dad bought a controlling interest in the company and I became CEO by dint of my hard work, Buffy and I had our first of three children.
The pressures on me are intense. I have to provide for the little ones, and private school isn't cheap! Of course Buffy needs the best of everything, and maintaining the house in the Hamptons is a constant headache. Oh the phone calls to contractors! Anywho, I'll get by because I'm tough, and came up through the school of hard knocks. When you're a self made man like me you realize that you really did build it. I know that is supposed to be funny but its bullshit. Life is hard for everyone. It is the first noble truth. Define "hard" and "everyone". I mean I guess if you're a spoiled trust fund brat, getting the Black Mercedes E Class on your 16th birthday instead of the red one you asked for is hard.....
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 21, 2015 13:53:15 GMT -5
I know that is supposed to be funny but its bullshit. Life is hard for everyone. It is the first noble truth. Define "hard" and "everyone". I mean I guess if you're a spoiled trust fund brat, getting the Black Mercedes E Class on your 16th birthday instead of the red one you asked for is hard..... For some it could be getting the red one instead of love and attention from your parents.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 21, 2015 14:29:43 GMT -5
Define "hard" and "everyone". I mean I guess if you're a spoiled trust fund brat, getting the Black Mercedes E Class on your 16th birthday instead of the red one you asked for is hard..... For some it could be getting the red one instead of love and attention from your parents. There is a trade off for everything. There is always something you could say you didn't have and that made life hard. But "hard" is relative... Although I'd argue that not knowing whether you'll eat that night is harder than not knowing if Mommy and Daddy will get the right color Mercedes for you.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 21, 2015 17:04:06 GMT -5
How is that any different than having a penis and now saying u should be able to use the girls restroom , and locker room? Isnt that also a lie? Everyone else is just expected to acquiesce to their " reality". it is significantly different in many many ways. I have a hard time understanding or having sympathy for those who in my opinion just like to push the envelope just for the sake of..As far as a transgender or gay what ever...when it comes to rest rooms..every rest room I have gone into in my life..except those in the WW1 barracks use during basic training had doors on the commodes..{ There was a reason militarily I believe to get military recruits use to sitting cheek to cheek so to speak...in the field is definitely different then back home with Mom and Dad..} and thus there is no need to push in courts decisions of being able to use the female bathrooms over the males..IMHO...as far as washing and using sinks as some are using urinals near bye....since these folks still have all their birth parts and still use the same way I don't believe they would be shocked by such arrangements..
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 21, 2015 17:09:54 GMT -5
There were no mens and ladies restrooms in Ancient Roman times. There were no private stalls either. Just communal toilets for everyone and anytime.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 13:59:15 GMT -5
I accept neither. He's not a woman, she's not black. Easily verifiable. Reality has a way of getting into the way of wishful thinking. I live in reality. Einstein should of stuck with physics. Some of his quotes are rather inane. I stand by my statement.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 26, 2015 15:04:33 GMT -5
Einstein should of stuck with physics. Some of his quotes are rather inane. I stand by my statement. You should stand by your reality.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 12:51:06 GMT -5
Einstein should of stuck with physics. Some of his quotes are rather inane. I stand by my statement. You should stand by your reality. My reality ? Cute.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 1, 2015 13:55:17 GMT -5
You should stand by your reality. My reality ? Cute. There's some truth to what billis is saying. I may be standing in a rain storm while someone in Africa is dying due to drought. The African's reality is as real as is my own.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 1, 2015 13:56:22 GMT -5
I generally ascribe to the philosophy that life is hard no matter who you are. There are more challenges to life than basic survival.
I don't recall who said it, but there's a quote I like that goes something like "be kind to everyone for everyone is fighting some kind of battle"
Iand arguing over who had a harder life than who is a pointless debate. It's never something you can really truly evaluate objectively and ultimately accomplishes nothing.
Besides, appearances can be deceiving.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 1, 2015 13:58:55 GMT -5
My reality ? Cute. There's some truth to what billis is saying. I may be standing in a rain storm while someone in Africa is dying due to drought. The African's reality is as real as is my own. Yep, we're all confined to our own experiences and what our 5 senses tell us at any one time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 12:47:19 GMT -5
My reality ? Cute. There's some truth to what billis is saying. I may be standing in a rain storm while someone in Africa is dying due to drought. The African's reality is as real as is my own. I understand what your saying completely. I just consider it reality for everyone. I thought bill was trying to be humorous. The point I was trying to make was that Bruce/Caitlyn is still a male regardless what his mind thinks. All the female clothes and surgically attained female looking modifications to his body doesn't make him a DNA structure female. His inner structure is still male. Please don't take this in any way that I'm against what he is doing, as I regard it as his own decision/business. A little bit overdone in the media, but still his own decision. It's kind of like the breast implant hoopla from years ago that is now commonplace.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 3, 2015 13:12:36 GMT -5
I generally ascribe to the philosophy that life is hard no matter who you are. i have no idea what you are talking about. my life is a breeze. when hardship consists of getting stuck in traffic, or having to pay extra for airfare because i booked a flight too late, those are FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jul 3, 2015 13:24:08 GMT -5
I won the lottery...I was born male and white and pretty good looking (so I'm told).
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 3, 2015 13:35:00 GMT -5
I won the lottery...I was born male and white and pretty good looking (so I'm told). precisely. people who experience REAL hardship in their lives are justifiably offended when those with privilege complain about things. it is like Jack Nicholson says in "As Good As It Gets", not everyone has a miserable life. many people have beautiful lives- full of cake, and supportive parents, and richness beyond the imagination of your average Asian or African. to hear them complain about their hardship is offensive, imo.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jul 3, 2015 13:54:02 GMT -5
I was just being facetious...but yeah, I get it.
Without going into any details, my life was not a walk in the park on a sunny spring day...you are what you make yourself.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 3, 2015 14:05:17 GMT -5
I was just being facetious...but yeah, I get it. Without going into any details, my life was not a walk in the park on a sunny spring day...you are what you make yourself. yeah, but your life didn't consist of worrying daily about what to eat, right? when i say worry, i mean worry as in, threat of starvation worry. that is how half the world lives. we are rich beyond compare to that half. be thankful we are independent from THAT.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jul 3, 2015 14:22:51 GMT -5
First world problems. I know.
I never went hungry...my mother is Italian...come over and you will get plenty of delicious left overs. Lasagna is always better a day late.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 3, 2015 15:17:59 GMT -5
I generally ascribe to the philosophy that life is hard no matter who you are. i have no idea what you are talking about. my life is a breeze. when hardship consists of getting stuck in traffic, or having to pay extra for airfare because i booked a flight too late, those are FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS. Glad you had a good life.
For the vast majority of the rest of us, we face or have faced challenges.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 3, 2015 16:21:39 GMT -5
i have no idea what you are talking about. my life is a breeze. when hardship consists of getting stuck in traffic, or having to pay extra for airfare because i booked a flight too late, those are FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS. Glad you had a good life.
For the vast majority of the rest of us, we face or have faced challenges.
i never said i didn't face challenges, only that they were not grounds for complaint, comparatively speaking. but for the record, i am sorry for the hardships you have endured. congratulations for surviving them.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 3, 2015 17:35:24 GMT -5
Glad you had a good life.
For the vast majority of the rest of us, we face or have faced challenges.
i never said i didn't face challenges, only that they were not grounds for complaint, comparatively speaking. but for the record, i am sorry for the hardships you have endured. congratulations for surviving them. Some have had it easier than me, others have had it harder. It's a pointless debate to have, in my honest opinion. People face different challenges and have different abilities to meet those challenges. Things that might be easy for you are hard for me, or vice versa.
I don't know, I guess I just don't see the point in going around judging who's had it harder or easier to me. I never have enough information to determine that and even if I did, what does it prove?
I just try to live my life the best I can and not judge or compare myself to others.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 3, 2015 18:00:02 GMT -5
i never said i didn't face challenges, only that they were not grounds for complaint, comparatively speaking. but for the record, i am sorry for the hardships you have endured. congratulations for surviving them. Some have had it easier than me, others have had it harder. It's a pointless debate to have, in my honest opinion. People face different challenges and have different abilities to meet those challenges. Things that might be easy for you are hard for me, or vice versa.
I don't know, I guess I just don't see the point in going around judging who's had it harder or easier to me. I never have enough information to determine that and even if I did, what does it prove?
I just try to live my life the best I can and not judge or compare myself to others.
that's not what we are doing, are we? i simply said that i think i had it easier than most. if you think you had it hard, i accept that. i don't know you, you don't know me, so neither of us have a choice. i just took issue with the idea that everybody thinks they had it harder than the next guy. i don't.
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Post by tallguy on Jul 4, 2015 0:00:52 GMT -5
I would never suggest that my life was terribly difficult either. Yes, there were some things to overcome, but I would guess myself to be in about the 80-85th percentile range (and maybe a little higher) on the scale in this country of "Who had it easier?" I would also guess that it would put me in about the 97th percentile worldwide. In general, I would suggest that very few people in this country have ANY real reason to complain about life being unfair. Much if not most of the world would trade places in a heartbeat.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 4, 2015 0:21:03 GMT -5
I've seen terribly hard. Fortunately, I've never had to experience it personally. I don't have to worry about losing parts of myself to leprosy. I've never really had to worry about where my next meals would come from, or how to feed my children, or whether the water I was drinking was so contaminated with who knows what it might kill me (although, I have lived where any water to be consumed had to be boiled for 20 minutes before it could be used). I've always had a roof over my head, clothes on my back and enough food to stave off starvation. I've seen those who cannot say that. In fact, they can't even come close. Perhaps, that's necessary to really understand how fortunate we are and what's really meant by "first world problems."
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 4, 2015 7:54:34 GMT -5
I think in many ways I've been very fortunate, in others, not as much. A lot have had it worse, some have had it better. And it's changed throughout life.
I'm not saying I had a particularly hard life, I'm saying I've had challenges and everyone has challenges and I think it's stupid and immature to go around saying you've had a harder life than everyone else.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 4, 2015 8:03:02 GMT -5
I think in many ways I've been very fortunate, in others, not as much. A lot have had it worse, some have had it better. And it's changed throughout life.
I'm not saying I had a particularly hard life, I'm saying I've had challenges and everyone has challenges and I think it's stupid and immature to go around saying you've had a harder life than everyone else.
Would you say it was stupid and immature for the person below to say he has had a harder life than you, me, and just about everyone else in the world? War, famine, drought can make life pretty hard for most. Are they stupid and immature?
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 4, 2015 8:05:51 GMT -5
How about this woman and child? Stupid and immature for saying they have had a hard life?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 4, 2015 11:58:14 GMT -5
I think in many ways I've been very fortunate, in others, not as much. A lot have had it worse, some have had it better. And it's changed throughout life.
I'm not saying I had a particularly hard life, I'm saying I've had challenges and everyone has challenges and I think it's stupid and immature to go around saying you've had a harder life than everyone else.
Would you say it was stupid and immature for the person below to say he has had a harder life than you, me, and just about everyone else in the world? War, famine, drought can make life pretty hard for most. Are they stupid and immature? this is precisely my point. to feign hardship when you have had little is an insult to those that have had REAL hardship.
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