The NFL Playoffs of 2015

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Jan 9, 2015 10:35:29 GMT -5 tallguy said:

The Sporting News one is particularly interesting since the quarterbacks were ranked in several areas.  Accuracy, Pocket presence, Arm strength, Mobility, Decision making, Clutchness, Toughness, and Intangibles.  What is interesting to me as a Seahawks fan is how highly Russell Wilson is ranked over those who have been around a lot longer.  That kid is amazing at times, and doesn't get nearly as much respect from most fans as he should. 

Regardless, though, the only thing I recall saying about the subject of "elite" quarterbacks is that Rodgers IS and Flacco ISN'T.     

Who cares who they say is elite? Plenty of elite QB's are going to be on their couch this weekend. Since you do seem to care, Wilson isn't elite either.

I'd rather have a very good QB who is clutch than elite.

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Jan 9, 2015 11:44:57 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

who is Lindley...?

well, he is a heck of a lot better than Bear's qb, Jay Cutler.

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Jan 9, 2015 12:00:26 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 9, 2015 11:44:57 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

who is Lindley...?

well, he is a heck of a lot better than Bear's qb, Jay Cutler.

Is that really what we want to measure QBs against? Cutler is awful.

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Jan 9, 2015 12:02:15 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

Jan 9, 2015 12:00:26 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

well, he is a heck of a lot better than Bear's qb, Jay Cutler.

Is that really what we want to measure QBs against? Cutler is awful.

But he makes "Elite" type money, that is why people compare.

[chiver78]

oh, he plays for the Bears? that's why I never heard of him. who watches the Bears lately?

and no, I wouldn't puff my ego at being declared better than Cutler. yeesh.

[wvugurl26]

Jan 9, 2015 12:07:20 GMT -5 @familycfo said:

Jan 9, 2015 12:02:15 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

Is that really what we want to measure QBs against? Cutler is awful.

But he makes "Elite" type money, that is why people compare.

He may be the highest paid QB in the NFL this year because the Bears are stupid but he's a bad QB. His skills and his attitude suck. But hey if I was getting paid $20 million a year I probably wouldn't care what people said about me

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Jan 9, 2015 12:13:22 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

Jan 9, 2015 12:07:20 GMT -5 @familycfo said:

But he makes "Elite" type money, that is why people compare.

He may be the highest paid QB in the NFL this year because the Bears are stupid but he's a bad QB. His skills and his attitude suck. But hey if I was getting paid $20 million a year I probably wouldn't care what people said about me

I'm no Cutler fan, I'm especially not fond of has attitude. However, he is getting paid like the big boys!

He is another reason I'm so grateful to have a QB like Flacco.

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Jan 9, 2015 12:07:53 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

oh, he plays for the Bears? that's why I never heard of him. who watches the Bears lately?

and no, I wouldn't puff my ego at being declared better than Cutler. yeesh.

Cutler plays for the Bears.

I was only posting my dismay with Cutler

[Wisconsin Beth]

Jan 9, 2015 12:00:26 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 9, 2015 11:44:57 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

who is Lindley...?

well, he is a heck of a lot better than Bear's qb, Jay Cutler.

Lindley is the 3rd string quarterback who finished out the season for the Cardinals after their first 2 went down. 

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My picks this weekend

Baltimore 21

New England 31  Flacco performs well, but cannot play defense too.

Carolina 17

Seattle 24  Wilson is not contained by Carolina defense

Dallas 19  Romo has trouble putting it in the end zone

Green Bay 24   It's at Green Bay, and just cold enough

Indianapolis 24   Indy defense not strong enough

Denver 31  Manning shows he should still be in Indy.

I might have two of the games wrong

I am thinking New England and Seattle may be in trouble 

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Predictions:

New England by 3.

Dallas upsets Green Bay.

Seahawks win by a touchdown.

Denver by only 3 (it will be close).

I hope I'm wrong!

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Jan 9, 2015 11:44:57 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

who is Lindley...?

Third string backup qb for Cardinals. He got baptismal (is that a word sp) by fire so to speak. 

ETA: Oops my bad, I didn't see that it had been answered!!!

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Jan 9, 2015 14:27:03 GMT -5 @familycfo said:

Predictions:

New England by 3.

Dallas upsets Green Bay.

Seahawks win by a touchdown.

Denver by only 3 (it will be close).

I hope I'm wrong!

I still have not checked the spreads.

No idea what Vegas says.

[tallguy]

Jan 9, 2015 11:57:23 GMT -5 @familycfo said:

Jan 9, 2015 10:35:29 GMT -5 tallguy said:

The Sporting News one is particularly interesting since the quarterbacks were ranked in several areas.  Accuracy, Pocket presence, Arm strength, Mobility, Decision making, Clutchness, Toughness, and Intangibles.  What is interesting to me as a Seahawks fan is how highly Russell Wilson is ranked over those who have been around a lot longer.  That kid is amazing at times, and doesn't get nearly as much respect from most fans as he should. 

Regardless, though, the only thing I recall saying about the subject of "elite" quarterbacks is that Rodgers IS and Flacco ISN'T.     

Who cares who they say is elite? Plenty of elite QB's are going to be on their couch this weekend. Since you do seem to care, Wilson isn't elite either.

I'd rather have a very good QB who is clutch than elite.

First, I never said he was, although he is putting himself into the conversation in only his THIRD season.  One SB win already with a pretty good chance to make it two.  Tied Peyton Manning's NFL record for most TD passes by a rookie even though the Seahawks probably throw the ball less than any other team, and are the #1 rushing team in the league this year.  And by the way, Wilson had ten interceptions that season.  Manning had 28 in his.

Set the record for most wins by a QB in his first three seasons.  And his WORST touchdown/interception ratio is 26-10.  Flacco's BEST in his career is 25-10.  Flacco had 22 interceptions in 2013 alone.  Wilson has 26 in three years.  The worst passer rating of Wilson's career is also higher than the best of Flacco's career.  Wilson had 849 rushing yards and six TD's this season.  Flacco has 631 rushing yards in his career.  And referring back to the Sporting News rankings, Wilson is also rated more "clutch" than Flacco, with one person placing him first overall in that category.

But yeah, I can see why you would prefer Flacco.  He is, after all, the best quarterback to come out of Delaware.  Probably.  Maybe.    

[tallguy]

I am thinking New England and Seattle may be in trouble

New England maybe, because Baltimore plays them well.  Not Seattle though.  Carolina has played them tough the last few years, but the Seahawks won all three against them the last three years, and all on the road.  Carolina has never won in Seattle and the only time they were here with this much on the line they got blown out, 34-14 in the 2006 NFC championship game.  Nor do they have anyone who has been through this type of game.  On top of that, their best run-stopper is out, while Seattle gets their Pro Bowl center back for this game.  And they just don't have enough weapons to score a lot on the #1 defense in the league. 

The first half should be a tough, close game.  By the second possession of the third quarter the Seahawks should start to stretch it out.  I'll say 27-13.

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Jan 9, 2015 23:14:24 GMT -5 tallguy said:

I am thinking New England and Seattle may be in trouble

New England maybe, because Baltimore plays them well.  Not Seattle though.  Carolina has played them tough the last few years, but the Seahawks won all three against them the last three years, and all on the road.  Carolina has never won in Seattle and the only time they were here with this much on the line they got blown out, 34-14 in the 2006 NFC championship game.  Nor do they have anyone who has been through this type of game.  On top of that, their best run-stopper is out, while Seattle gets their Pro Bowl center back for this game.  And they just don't have enough weapons to score a lot on the #1 defense in the league. 

The first half should be a tough, close game.  By the second possession of the third quarter the Seahawks should start to stretch it out.  I'll say 27-13.

I know I picked New England, but Brady sometimes disappoints me.

And Flacco in the play offs plays above normal expectations, and Ravens defense does still show up sometimes.

I know I picked Seattle to win.

BUT, if Carolina's defense shows up, Wilson could be in trouble. IF they can contain his break out runs, they can defend against his passing game.

I know it is a big BUT and IF but you just never know......

[chiver78]

thus game is making me fucking crazy. we are watching this game being played at Gillette, no? grr....

sent from my electronic distraction

[Shooby]

Watching it now!

[billisonboard]

Seahawks

[tallguy]

Seahawks

14-10 first half in a mostly defensive struggle.  Midway through the third quarter, Seahawks hold the ball for 6:32 and kick a field goal.  Next drive is a touchdown, then a defensive touchdown, and then the last time they got the ball they were at the Carolina 14 before taking a knee three times to end it.  Went from 14-10 to 31-10, before the Seahawks end up winning by 14.  Not a bad day, but who could have seen it unfold that way?  Wait a minute....  Seems to me I read something similar earlier.  Hmmm, who was it?

The first half should be a tough, close game. By the second possession of the third quarter the Seahawks should start to stretch it out. I'll say 27-13.

Oh yeah, it was me!   

[tallguy]

I'd rather have a very good QB who is clutch than elite.

Me too.  Definitely.  That is why I'm so glad the Seahawks have Russell Wilson.  In a playoff game with the pressure of being the defending champions he goes eight-for-eight on third down for 199 yards and three touchdowns.  Contrast that with someone in the earlier game who threw two horrible lob-the-ball-up-and-hope interceptions that cost his team the game.

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Jan 11, 2015 0:15:24 GMT -5 tallguy said:

I'd rather have a very good QB who is clutch than elite.

Me too.  Definitely.  That is why I'm so glad the Seahawks have Russell Wilson.  In a playoff game with the pressure of being the defending champions he goes eight-for-eight on third down for 199 yards and three touchdowns.  Contrast that with someone in the earlier game who threw two horrible lob-the-ball-up-and-hope interceptions that cost his team the game.

And I would rather have a very good team along with that very good quarterback. Better than an elite QB, an elite receiver, an elite defensive lineman, an elite linebacker with some other guys.

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And now, onto today's games!

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Well, Denver sure did not show up on either side of the ball.

Manning has not looked that bad since the Super Bowl last year. Any pass 15 yards out was way off the mark. Not even close

Watching Green Bay yesterday, I started rooting for Dallas.

Rodgers looked so hurt, I figured he would have no chance against Seattle's defense, so I thought Dallas would give a better fight his Sunday.

[Ombud]

No posts re: Chancellor ' s 2 hurtles??

[chiver78]

nah, but how 'bout that TD from Edelman to Amendola though?

[Wisconsin Beth]

Jan 12, 2015 10:09:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Well, Denver sure did not show up on either side of the ball.

Manning has not looked that bad since the Super Bowl last year. Any pass 15 yards out was way off the mark. Not even close

Watching Green Bay yesterday, I started rooting for Dallas.

Rodgers looked so hurt, I figured he would have no chance against Seattle's defense, so I thought Dallas would give a better fight his Sunday.

  even though I understand the logic behind it. 

Aaron did play better in the 2n half.  Not sure why.  But I hope he keeps on healing - FAST.  We're overdue for a win in Seattle.  I'd love it to come next week but I'm doubtful. 

[Wisconsin Beth]

Jan 12, 2015 10:14:27 GMT -5 Ombud said:

No posts re: Chancellor ' s 2 hurtles??

Those were amazing. 

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Jan 12, 2015 10:33:50 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

Jan 12, 2015 10:09:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Well, Denver sure did not show up on either side of the ball.

Manning has not looked that bad since the Super Bowl last year. Any pass 15 yards out was way off the mark. Not even close

Watching Green Bay yesterday, I started rooting for Dallas.

Rodgers looked so hurt, I figured he would have no chance against Seattle's defense, so I thought Dallas would give a better fight his Sunday.

  even though I understand the logic behind it. 

Aaron did play better in the 2n half.  Not sure why.  But I hope he keeps on healing - FAST.  We're overdue for a win in Seattle.  I'd love it to come next week but I'm doubtful. 

Limping on one leg will not get it done.

At least he was a heck of a lot more accurate than Manning

[Wisconsin Beth]

My DH is assuming that the lack of mobility in the first half was ordered by Coach.  And after halftime, they either pumped him full of drugs or Aaron decided winning meant he needed to be more mobile. 

Yeah, I didn't get to see a whole lot of the other games, the kids needed/wanted attention (we chased them into the basement for most of the Packer game.