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Post by EVT1 on Dec 30, 2014 0:49:21 GMT -5
Just to illustrate my point:
www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/ann-coulter-most-women-who-say-they-were-raped-are-just-girls-trying-to-get-attention/
Coulter dismissed the notion of date or acquaintance rape out of hand, insisting that unless a victim gets “hit on the head with a brick,” it isn’t a legitimate rape
“People know what a rape is,” Coulter insisted, “and to have girls trying to get attention — from Lena Dunham to this poor psychotic at UVA, Lady Gaga claiming she was raped but she didn’t admit it to herself for five years. What major crime do people say, ‘I didn’t admit it to myself?’”
www.salon.com/2014/09/15/rush_limbaughs_new_definition_of_sexual_consent_no_means_yes_if_you_know_how_to_spot_it/
Limbaugh’s view “takes all the romance out of everything” by requiring agreement for sex. Mandating affirmative consent is especially troublesome, the host argued, because sometimes “no means yes if you know how to spot it.” “Seduction used to be an art,” Limbaugh said. “Now, of course, it’s prudish, it’s predatory, it’s bad.”
Back to you Paul
Bonus question- who in the hell could Rush Limbaugh seduce? He can buy all of the wives he wants but seduction -rofl-He should be happy there are enough hookers without scruples.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 19:06:33 GMT -5
In all fairness, the "no means no until she changes her mind" isn't an idea that guys just invented for the heck of it. There is a not insignificant percentage of women out there that are of the mindset "I'll 'put out' when he {insert criteria here, it's different for every woman that does this}, and not before".
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 1, 2015 1:39:36 GMT -5
Just to illustrate my point:
www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/ann-coulter-most-women-who-say-they-were-raped-are-just-girls-trying-to-get-attention/
Coulter dismissed the notion of date or acquaintance rape out of hand, insisting that unless a victim gets “hit on the head with a brick,” it isn’t a legitimate rape
“People know what a rape is,” Coulter insisted, “and to have girls trying to get attention — from Lena Dunham to this poor psychotic at UVA, Lady Gaga claiming she was raped but she didn’t admit it to herself for five years. What major crime do people say, ‘I didn’t admit it to myself?’”
www.salon.com/2014/09/15/rush_limbaughs_new_definition_of_sexual_consent_no_means_yes_if_you_know_how_to_spot_it/
Limbaugh’s view “takes all the romance out of everything” by requiring agreement for sex. Mandating affirmative consent is especially troublesome, the host argued, because sometimes “no means yes if you know how to spot it.” “Seduction used to be an art,” Limbaugh said. “Now, of course, it’s prudish, it’s predatory, it’s bad.”
Back to you Paul
Bonus question- who in the hell could Rush Limbaugh seduce? He can buy all of the wives he wants but seduction -rofl-He should be happy there are enough hookers without scruples.
What's your point here? Are you arguing FOR the publication of a completely false story of a gang rape that never happened by Rolling Stone? Is there something socially redeeming about their behavior? The rape culture myth is just that. And like Lena Dunham (since you brought her up in a roundabout way) is the poster child for why we need to be we should be extremely leery about civil and criminal action taken on the word of a woman years later concerning date rape, and for the statute of limitations. Look, I get that rape is an extra shitty crime, and that it's tough dealing with it-- but if a victim wants a crime prosecuted, they have to take the necessary steps to report it in a timely manner, preserve evidence, and be open and transparent as they can be for investigators. I don't see how you get around this. It may mean that some rapists get away with that. That is preferable to an innocent person, or persons as with the UVA false accusation, going to jail, or having their reputations ruined. Better a thousand guilty go free than one innocent behind bars- what can I say, when it comes to crime and punishment, I'm a liberal.
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Post by EVT1 on Jan 1, 2015 15:13:21 GMT -5
Pretty obvious what the point is- in the above post both Limbaugh and Coulter are taking the stand that date rape is a myth- just like you are.
And BTW Dunham isn't the poster child for anything to do with 'civil or criminal action'. She wrote a book. She at best would be the poster child for TMI.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 2, 2015 13:15:49 GMT -5
Pretty obvious what the point is- in the above post both Limbaugh and Coulter are taking the stand that date rape is a myth- just like you are.
And BTW Dunham isn't the poster child for anything to do with 'civil or criminal action'. She wrote a book. She at best would be the poster child for TMI. Well, the "rape culture" / "date rape" zeitgeist was further erroded recently as fresh research put the lie to the ridiculous "1 in 5" claim. www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/gateway-to-dc/campus-sexual-assault-under-fresh-scrutiny-after-new-survey-shows/article_8ea64e9d-5dbc-532f-b04d-39465ee20aa5.htmlAs Women Against Feminism clearly illustrates, another effort by the left to gin up anger and outrage over a phony issue as a pretext to erode our culture and argue for further social experimentation is fizzling out. What people know to be true intuitively is being born out by the numbers- there's just not that big a problem. There is no rape culture, no epidemic of rape on college campuses, and there's just no crisis that warrants any inordinate attention.
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Post by Opti on Jan 2, 2015 13:42:12 GMT -5
In all fairness, the "no means no until she changes her mind" isn't an idea that guys just invented for the heck of it. There is a not insignificant percentage of women out there that are of the mindset "I'll 'put out' when he {insert criteria here, it's different for every woman that does this}, and not before". I'm not one of these women so I can't really speak to their thought process. However, has it ever occurred to you and others that the eventual yes is not really a yes as much as they run out of strength or the will to say no? Kind of like parents giving in when their kids pester them for stuff while shopping. They want to say No, but they cave because they want to stop the whining and pressure.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 2, 2015 13:47:59 GMT -5
In all fairness, the "no means no until she changes her mind" isn't an idea that guys just invented for the heck of it. There is a not insignificant percentage of women out there that are of the mindset "I'll 'put out' when he {insert criteria here, it's different for every woman that does this}, and not before". I'm not one of these women so I can't really speak to their thought process. However, has it ever occurred to you and others that the eventual yes is not really a yes as much as they run out of strength or the will to say no? Kind of like parents giving in when their kids pester them for stuff while shopping. They want to say No, but they cave because they want to stop the whining and pressure.
It's also not a "yes" until she says it's a "yes". It doesn't become a "yes" just because someone else thinks it might be meant to be a "yes" if certain criteria are met.
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Post by Opti on Jan 2, 2015 13:48:44 GMT -5
I am curious as to why this topic, i.e. rape and rape culture, is so important to Space Coast Paul. I don't keep up with the statistics, but this is one of the first things that came up with Bing.
www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims
1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1
17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.1
Lifetime rate of rape /attempted rape for women by race:1 •All women: 17.6% •White women: 17.7% •Black women: 18.8% •Asian Pacific Islander women: 6.8% •American Indian/Alaskan women: 34.1% •Mixed race women: 24.4%
Men
About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.1 •In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male.2 •2.78 million men in the U.S. have been victims of sexual assault or rape.1
References
1.National Institute of Justice & Centers for Disease Control & Prevention. Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women Survey. 1998. 2.U.S. Department of Justice. 2003 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2003. (Yes, the information appears old.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 18:42:13 GMT -5
In all fairness, the "no means no until she changes her mind" isn't an idea that guys just invented for the heck of it. There is a not insignificant percentage of women out there that are of the mindset "I'll 'put out' when he {insert criteria here, it's different for every woman that does this}, and not before". I'm not one of these women so I can't really speak to their thought process. However, has it ever occurred to you and others that the eventual yes is not really a yes as much as they run out of strength or the will to say no? Kind of like parents giving in when their kids pester them for stuff while shopping. They want to say No, but they cave because they want to stop the whining and pressure.
I'm not talking about the "giving in because she's tired of fighting it" women... I'm talking about the "this is my plan before he even comes to pick me up" ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 18:48:40 GMT -5
I'm not one of these women so I can't really speak to their thought process. However, has it ever occurred to you and others that the eventual yes is not really a yes as much as they run out of strength or the will to say no? Kind of like parents giving in when their kids pester them for stuff while shopping. They want to say No, but they cave because they want to stop the whining and pressure.
It's also not a "yes" until she says it's a "yes". It doesn't become a "yes" just because someone else thinks it might be meant to be a "yes" if certain criteria are met. I fully agree with this. "Yes" (or voluntary physical activity on her part, in lieu of actually uttered sounds... like if she's the one "making advances") is the only thing that means "yes".
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Post by Opti on Jan 2, 2015 19:21:55 GMT -5
I'm not one of these women so I can't really speak to their thought process. However, has it ever occurred to you and others that the eventual yes is not really a yes as much as they run out of strength or the will to say no? Kind of like parents giving in when their kids pester them for stuff while shopping. They want to say No, but they cave because they want to stop the whining and pressure.
I'm not talking about the "giving in because she's tired of fighting it" women... I'm talking about the "this is my plan before he even comes to pick me up" ones. Maybe you can explain what you mean? Give an example plan?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 19:58:18 GMT -5
I'm not talking about the "giving in because she's tired of fighting it" women... I'm talking about the "this is my plan before he even comes to pick me up" ones. Maybe you can explain what you mean? Give an example plan?
I already explained what I meant: But, as a POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" unless he has flowers for her, buys her dinner, and a gives her a gift of some sort of jewelry. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's been taken to a specific romantic restaurant. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's had three full dates that all include dinner, some form of entertainment, and flowers or jewelry. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's been taken to {insert non-local destination here}, at which time, while on the trip, she will "give it up". The possibilities are basically endless.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Jan 2, 2015 20:12:50 GMT -5
Just for curiosity's sake, where do you find these women? I'm not disputing they exist, because I don't know every person on Earth. I'm just saying I don't know any and I want to make sure I stay away from the places they frequent. The women I know have sex because they want to - not because of what they get for doing it.
Are you saying that men buy flowers and gifts, etc., because they are hoping it will get them laid? They don't do it because they care about the other person or because they just want to? Because if one is true, the other has to be. Right?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 20:17:19 GMT -5
Maybe you can explain what you mean? Give an example plan?
I already explained what I meant: But, as a POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" unless he has flowers for her, buys her dinner, and a gives her a gift of some sort of jewelry. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's been taken to a specific romantic restaurant. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's had three full dates that all include dinner, some form of entertainment, and flowers or jewelry. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's been taken to {insert non-local destination here}, at which time, while on the trip, she will "give it up". The possibilities are basically endless. I guess it's possible but it sounds pretty ridiculous.
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Post by Opti on Jan 2, 2015 20:23:25 GMT -5
Maybe you can explain what you mean? Give an example plan?
I already explained what I meant: But, as a POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" unless he has flowers for her, buys her dinner, and a gives her a gift of some sort of jewelry. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's been taken to a specific romantic restaurant. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's had three full dates that all include dinner, some form of entertainment, and flowers or jewelry. Another POSSIBLE example: woman decides, before ever dating the guy, that her date isn't "getting any" until she's been taken to {insert non-local destination here}, at which time, while on the trip, she will "give it up". The possibilities are basically endless. Thanks for the examples. Except for the timing thing of three dates, I'm not aware of anyone I know who has made decisions like the above. I know of men who have had timing rules too FWIW.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Jan 2, 2015 20:23:55 GMT -5
I mean no offense here when I say this, but some people here...their knowledge of rape and of women in general could fit on the head of a pin with room left over for another pinhead. You can't find your "facts" in your statistics. You've been told that over and over by people who actually know what they are talking about, yet some continue to go on and on quoting links, etc., that don't include MOST of the rapes that occur...because they aren't reported....for the very reason of getting a reaction like it's getting in this thread. Peace to you all and I fervently pray that you never have to find the real truths the hard way.
I don't know if what she says is true or not. I wasn't there. Neither was anybody else here. There is no doubt that false rape accusations happen and it's a terrible thing to do to someone. I don't dispute that and yes...it could ruin someone's life and that's a horrible thing to do. However, you can't judge all women by the acts of a few...yes...a few. Just like we, as women, can't judge all men by the acts of a few. If anyone is hoping they can finally find some link that says rapes don't happen, don't hold your breath. Because they do. And those women could use some of your compassion and outrage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 20:27:06 GMT -5
Just for curiosity's sake, where do you find these women? I'm not disputing they exist, because I don't know every person on Earth. I'm just saying I don't know any and I want to make sure I stay away from the places they frequent. The women I know have sex because they want to - not because of what they get for doing it.
Are you saying that men buy flowers and gifts, etc., because they are hoping it will get them laid? They don't do it because they care about the other person or because they just want to? Because if one is true, the other has to be. Right? I've come across them pretty much everywhere (being the guy that's "just a really good friend, I don't think of you like that" sometimes has many advantages... they don't compensate for the disadvantages, mind you... but the advantages are still there. One of those can be that they open up more than they normally would with a guy). Sooo... places I've come across women with those attitudes... Hmmm: Work, School, Church (back when I was a believer), "clubbing" (talking to people that frequented the same bars... got to know them), overheard at the laundromat (not talked directly to, just overheard while waiting for my laundry to do it's thing). I think that's about it. Now, remember I didn't say it was all women, or even most of them... just that it was not an insignificant percentage (maybe about 25%?... maybe 20?... definitely more than 10 or 15%).
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Jan 2, 2015 20:38:38 GMT -5
Wow! Women were talking about the things they would trade sexual favors for in church! I really do live in a bubble. I've never heard conversations like that in church either. Or at work, school, or at a club. Not that women don't talk about sex with other women - just that ones of quality don't trade sex for "things". You've made me appreciate my friends even more! Thanks for your response.
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Post by EVT1 on Jan 2, 2015 21:30:58 GMT -5
Why is date rape- or rape for that matter politicized and discussed by yammering politicos anyway?
And someone correct me if I am wrong- but the first time I ever heard people blow a gasket was during the Duke rape accusation by the stripper that turned out to be false- and ever since then it seems anything similar was to be questioned in the media.
Meanwhile there is a huge culture of taking up for, covering up for star athletes that assault and rape, gang rape, and other behavior deserving of a jail cell and no one seems to talk about that one- don't recall hearing Rush opine on the girl that drunk out of her mind being filmed being defiled- other than maybe blaming her for it for getting drunk. (At least I think that is what he would say judging on his recent slut comments) Of course maybe punching out a woman in an elevator is OK too as long as she doesn't report it- obviously she consented to the behavior by marrying the guy
These people are obviously obsessed with women and their parts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 21:52:38 GMT -5
Wow! Women were talking about the things they would trade sexual favors for in church! I really do live in a bubble. I've never heard conversations like that in church either. Or at work, school, or at a club. Not that women don't talk about sex with other women - just that ones of quality don't trade sex for "things". You've made me appreciate my friends even more! Thanks for your response. I didn't say they were talking about it in church... the question was asked "where I found them". Church is one of the places that I "found" (became friends with) them.
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Post by Opti on Jan 2, 2015 21:53:31 GMT -5
Maybe Richard is friends with gorgeous women who trade on their looks for stuff?
I don't think I live in a bubble, but there are certain types of people I don't know much about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 21:59:20 GMT -5
Maybe Richard is friends with gorgeous women who trade on their looks for stuff?
I don't think I live in a bubble, but there are certain types of people I don't know much about. eh, some were gorgeous... most were "roughly average" though.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Jan 2, 2015 22:12:29 GMT -5
Maybe Richard is friends with gorgeous women who trade on their looks for stuff?
I don't think I live in a bubble, but there are certain types of people I don't know much about. Perhaps. I'm just not hot enough to trade anything for my looks! Maybe that's why I don't know anything about this. I might get a free car wash or something, but that's about it!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 4, 2015 9:49:55 GMT -5
Why is date rape- or rape for that matter politicized and discussed by yammering politicos anyway?
And someone correct me if I am wrong- but the first time I ever heard people blow a gasket was during the Duke rape accusation by the stripper that turned out to be false- and ever since then it seems anything similar was to be questioned in the media.
Meanwhile there is a huge culture of taking up for, covering up for star athletes that assault and rape, gang rape, and other behavior deserving of a jail cell and no one seems to talk about that one- don't recall hearing Rush opine on the girl that drunk out of her mind being filmed being defiled- other than maybe blaming her for it for getting drunk. (At least I think that is what he would say judging on his recent slut comments) Of course maybe punching out a woman in an elevator is OK too as long as she doesn't report it- obviously she consented to the behavior by marrying the guy
These people are obviously obsessed with women and their parts.
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Post by Opti on Jan 4, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5
Not sure what your point is Paul. I don't know why you or anyone thinks all people are going to be 100% truthful about anything whether it is rape, home invasions, or even what they had for dinner.
If false reports of black men making home invasions or kidnapping children don't make us believe all home invasions or kidnappings are suspect, I wonder why some people decide its different when it concerns rape.
Most rape cases don't make the media which probably makes the false accusation problem look larger than it is. The sensational rape cases that make the news that are proven true tend to be things like the three women in Ohio held against their will.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 4, 2015 19:27:54 GMT -5
Not sure what your point is Paul. I don't know why you or anyone thinks all people are going to be 100% truthful about anything whether it is rape, home invasions, or even what they had for dinner.
If false reports of black men making home invasions or kidnapping children don't make us believe all home invasions or kidnappings are suspect, I wonder why some people decide its different when it concerns rape.
Most rape cases don't make the media which probably makes the false accusation problem look larger than it is. The sensational rape cases that make the news that are proven true tend to be things like the three women in Ohio held against their will. The two cases, and the entire notion of a "culture of rape" where rape is no big deal and male college athletes, particularly those who excel at sports, and/or kids of wealthy parents go to college with a sense that they're entitled to rape women like they're islamists and women are just 6 year old children of infidels. It's so much worse than a false report here or there to spread a horrible lie that applies to an entire group of people- male college students. It's the worst kind of stereotyping, it impugns, defames, and denigrates an entire group of people- makes monsters out of them; and all based on a lie. A total myth. Sadly, destroying men isn't a side effect of the rape culture myth- it's the entire point.
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Post by Opti on Jan 4, 2015 21:50:27 GMT -5
Not sure what your point is Paul. I don't know why you or anyone thinks all people are going to be 100% truthful about anything whether it is rape, home invasions, or even what they had for dinner.
If false reports of black men making home invasions or kidnapping children don't make us believe all home invasions or kidnappings are suspect, I wonder why some people decide its different when it concerns rape.
Most rape cases don't make the media which probably makes the false accusation problem look larger than it is. The sensational rape cases that make the news that are proven true tend to be things like the three women in Ohio held against their will. The two cases, and the entire notion of a "culture of rape" where rape is no big deal and male college athletes, particularly those who excel at sports, and/or kids of wealthy parents go to college with a sense that they're entitled to rape women like they're islamists and women are just 6 year old children of infidels. It's so much worse than a false report here or there to spread a horrible lie that applies to an entire group of people- male college students. It's the worst kind of stereotyping, it impugns, defames, and denigrates an entire group of people- makes monsters out of them; and all based on a lie. A total myth. Sadly, destroying men isn't a side effect of the rape culture myth- it's the entire point. Honestly I don't what the heck you read to believe stuff like this nor do I want to know. Except for you, I know of no one who is saying all male college students are wannabe rapists, but you probably know where the loonies are hidden unlike me. I only saw the Rolling Stone article suggesting that rape was more prevalent at UVA than most colleges and less likely to be taken seriously. That's it.
For most of us, the Wiki entry is a great start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture
Rape culture is a theoretical concept (a qualitative theory) in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to societal attitudes about gender and sexuality.[1][2]
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RAINN, one of North America's leading anti-sexual violence organizations, in a report detailing recommendations to the White House on combating rape on college campuses, decries an overemphasis on the concept of rape culture as a means of preventing rape and as a cause for rape, saying, "In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming 'rape culture' for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime."[69] It is estimated that in college, 90% of rapes are committed by 3% of the male population, though it is stipulated that they do not have reliable numbers for female perpetrators. RAINN argues that rape is the product of individuals who have decided to disregard the overwhelming cultural message that rape is wrong. The report argues that trend towards focusing on cultural factors that supposedly condone rape "has the paradoxical effect of making it harder to stop sexual violence, since it removes the focus from the individual at fault, and seemingly mitigates personal responsibility for his or her own actions".[70
Since this term appears to have been coined in the 1970s, I think it is safe to note you and other men are still alive and not destroyed.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 6, 2015 9:22:00 GMT -5
In all fairness, the "no means no until she changes her mind" isn't an idea that guys just invented for the heck of it. There is a not insignificant percentage of women out there that are of the mindset "I'll 'put out' when he {insert criteria here, it's different for every woman that does this}, and not before". I'm not one of these women so I can't really speak to their thought process. However, has it ever occurred to you and others that the eventual yes is not really a yes as much as they run out of strength or the will to say no? Kind of like parents giving in when their kids pester them for stuff while shopping. They want to say No, but they cave because they want to stop the whining and pressure.
And like children, men will take what they can get. If you give in, you give in. If you're not strong enough to stick by a "no" and be firm, it isn't rape, it's regret and anger at oneself for lack of personal strength of character which ought not be a criminal matter for someone else.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 6, 2015 9:42:20 GMT -5
The two cases, and the entire notion of a "culture of rape" where rape is no big deal and male college athletes, particularly those who excel at sports, and/or kids of wealthy parents go to college with a sense that they're entitled to rape women like they're islamists and women are just 6 year old children of infidels. It's so much worse than a false report here or there to spread a horrible lie that applies to an entire group of people- male college students. It's the worst kind of stereotyping, it impugns, defames, and denigrates an entire group of people- makes monsters out of them; and all based on a lie. A total myth. Sadly, destroying men isn't a side effect of the rape culture myth- it's the entire point. Honestly I don't what the heck you read to believe stuff like this nor do I want to know. Except for you, I know of no one who is saying all male college students are wannabe rapists, but you probably know where the loonies are hidden unlike me. I only saw the Rolling Stone article suggesting that rape was more prevalent at UVA than most colleges and less likely to be taken seriously. That's it.
For most of us, the Wiki entry is a great start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture
Rape culture is a theoretical concept (a qualitative theory) in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to societal attitudes about gender and sexuality.[1][2]
Criticisms[edit]
RAINN, one of North America's leading anti-sexual violence organizations, in a report detailing recommendations to the White House on combating rape on college campuses, decries an overemphasis on the concept of rape culture as a means of preventing rape and as a cause for rape, saying, "In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming 'rape culture' for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime."[69] It is estimated that in college, 90% of rapes are committed by 3% of the male population, though it is stipulated that they do not have reliable numbers for female perpetrators. RAINN argues that rape is the product of individuals who have decided to disregard the overwhelming cultural message that rape is wrong. The report argues that trend towards focusing on cultural factors that supposedly condone rape "has the paradoxical effect of making it harder to stop sexual violence, since it removes the focus from the individual at fault, and seemingly mitigates personal responsibility for his or her own actions".[70
Since this term appears to have been coined in the 1970s, I think it is safe to note you and other men are still alive and not destroyed.
I know what it is, I'm saying that other than among islamists, and some hollywood actors, and politicians- "rape culture" doesn't exist. Not at UVA, not anywhere in American society. I think what is pervasive is a culture of abject fear surrounding sex as a result of the promotion of "rape culture" and "all sex is rape" other weirdo radical feminist neo-puritanism that reigns on college campuses. And there's plenty of evidence that this is true: This article is well worth a thoughtful read- I realize most of you won't read it, and do not care what it has to say- but for those that are truly interested in exploring issues of the day, our examining our thought process, challenging the status-quo, or who just plain have enough common sense to intuit that modern feminism is in late-stage over-reach, has long since jumped the shark-- and who understand there are far-reaching and damaging consequences for a society too long at war with nature itself-- enjoy: The Sexodus: www.mgtow.com/the-sexodus-part-1-the-men-giving-up-on-women-and-checking-out-of-society/The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society
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