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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 15:12:33 GMT -5
By all means, we need to make sure all our women are all packing heat 100% of the time, because that's easier and more fun to do than actually figure out how to create a society where young men refrain from raping women even when there isn't a gun pointed at their heads. I don't attack and rape woman, so I'm doing all I can. At my age I sometimes can't perform even in the allotted/allowed times. Let me know when your plan on how eliminate sex crime/(all crime?) is implemented, and 100% successful. My DW will then hang up her concealed carry gun. Until then, she said she will carry on as usual. (pun intended) It isn't just the young male criminals that rape. I hate the ones where young juvenile girls get raped and then killed. We had a string of those lately when one was sensationalized on the local news a few years back. One involved an uncle and friend. They dumped her body in a cave/sinkhole. Feral humans that I wouldn't hesitate one second to eliminate if I caught them at their crime. Sorry DJ, it's who I am.
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Post by The Captain on Dec 8, 2014 15:17:35 GMT -5
Well if nothing else it sounds like lousy journalism. Not a surprise considering the source...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 8, 2014 16:02:29 GMT -5
By all means, we need to make sure all our women are all packing heat 100% of the time, because that's easier and more fun to do than actually figure out how to create a society where young men refrain from raping women even when there isn't a gun pointed at their heads. I don't attack and rape woman, so I'm doing all I can. At my age I sometimes can't perform even in the allotted/allowed times. Let me know when your plan on how eliminate sex crime/(all crime?) is implemented, and 100% successful. My DW will then hang up her concealed carry gun. Until then, she said she will carry on as usual. (pun intended) It isn't just the young male criminals that rape. I hate the ones where young juvenile girls get raped and then killed. We had a string of those lately when one was sensationalized on the local news a few years back. One involved an uncle and friend. They dumped her body in a cave/sinkhole. Feral humans that I wouldn't hesitate one second to eliminate if I caught them at their crime. Sorry DJ, it's who I am. Does DJ have some moral qualm about eliminating a rapist in the act? I kinda doubt that.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 8, 2014 16:05:07 GMT -5
I don't.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 8, 2014 16:12:12 GMT -5
Wasn't that they didn't 'bother' to investigate the facts - the person who wrote the article assured 'Jackie' that she would not be calling people at the fraternity and university because 'Jackie' was afraid and ashamed. She was right to be afraid, since internet trolls are now trying to ferret out her real identify. I don't know what happened in this particular case, but I can guarantee it absolutely insure women continue to under report rapes, because who wants to become this kind of national target? I went to college, and on the rare occasions I went to a frat house, it was with a pack of girlfriends and didn't drink much, and I never let a guy get me in a room alone - forcing yourself on drunk women was a college sport way back then, and I have no doubt the sport continues. Only difference now is the date drugs that make it oh so easy to get what you want without consequences.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 16:15:45 GMT -5
I don't attack and rape woman, so I'm doing all I can. At my age I sometimes can't perform even in the allotted/allowed times. Let me know when your plan on how eliminate sex crime/(all crime?) is implemented, and 100% successful. My DW will then hang up her concealed carry gun. Until then, she said she will carry on as usual. (pun intended) It isn't just the young male criminals that rape. I hate the ones where young juvenile girls get raped and then killed. We had a string of those lately when one was sensationalized on the local news a few years back. One involved an uncle and friend. They dumped her body in a cave/sinkhole. Feral humans that I wouldn't hesitate one second to eliminate if I caught them at their crime. Sorry DJ, it's who I am. Does DJ have some moral qualm about eliminating a rapist in the act? I kinda doubt that. He seems to have made it clear to me he would die before he would compromise his non-violence principle. I guess only he can answer the light prod I offered. I was actually more concerned with the murdering of the young girl after the act.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 8, 2014 16:16:31 GMT -5
By all means, we need to make sure all our women are all packing heat 100% of the time, because that's easier and more fun to do than actually figure out how to create a society where young men refrain from raping women even when there isn't a gun pointed at their heads. I don't attack and rape woman, so I'm doing all I can. At my age I sometimes can't perform even in the allotted/allowed times. Let me know when your plan on how eliminate sex crime/(all crime?) is implemented, and 100% successful. My DW will then hang up her concealed carry gun. Until then, she said she will carry on as usual. (pun intended) It isn't just the young male criminals that rape. I hate the ones where young juvenile girls get raped and then killed. We had a string of those lately when one was sensationalized on the local news a few years back. One involved an uncle and friend. They dumped her body in a cave/sinkhole. Feral humans that I wouldn't hesitate one second to eliminate if I caught them at their crime. Sorry DJ, it's who I am. I would prefer to live in a society where only consentual sex between adults takes place. I know we have a ways to go to get there, but that's where I would like the human species to end up. Don't want to end up with every single person in society carrying a gun all the time just on the off chance they might get to blow someone away that day. Sounds too much like a Rambo movie.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 8, 2014 16:26:41 GMT -5
Someone blowing away a rapist or any other criminal is doing a public service.
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Post by Opti on Dec 8, 2014 16:27:37 GMT -5
By all means, we need to make sure all our women are all packing heat 100% of the time, because that's easier and more fun to do than actually figure out how to create a society where young men refrain from raping women even when there isn't a gun pointed at their heads. So its open season on the mentally and physically handicapped because they can't strike fear into potential attacker's hearts?
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 8, 2014 16:29:57 GMT -5
You hope there's someone that protects them.
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Post by Opti on Dec 8, 2014 16:31:33 GMT -5
Oops forgot all the children. I guess we just can't do anything about violent pedophiles either if the quote and reasoning is an absolute.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 8, 2014 16:41:21 GMT -5
Oops forgot all the children. I guess we just can't do anything about violent pedophiles either if the quote and reasoning is an absolute.
You can get those little dainty pistols made to fit their tiny hands.
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 8, 2014 16:45:08 GMT -5
So its open season on the mentally and physically handicapped because they can't strike fear into potential attacker's hearts?
We would have to return to a society like we had in the middle ages, where the women and children stayed behind high walls, so they wouldn't get raped or killed, unless they were poor, and who cares if poor people get raped or killed. The men could walk around in their body armor and automatic weapons. Sounds like a utopia.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 8, 2014 17:17:39 GMT -5
Jackie's UVA suitemate: Rolling Stone story "is not a hoax"Rolling Stone has apologized for its story detailing a graphic gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity, after discrepancies emerged in the main source's story. And serious questions about the journalism practices Rolling Stone used have been raised, particularly in its behavior toward Jackie, the student who said she was raped. But Sunday night, a suitemate of Jackie's from that time, Emily Clark, went public with a letter saying she still believed that Jackie " went through a traumatizing sexual assault ," which you can read at the Cavalier Daily . Clark describes a sudden change in Jackie's demeanor and behavior during her first semester: Rest of story below: Jackie's UVA suitemate: Rolling Stone story "is not a hoax"
link to the full letter published by the Cavalier Daily below: A letter from a friend: Jackie's story is not a hoax
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 8, 2014 17:24:56 GMT -5
If it's true, it's awful. If it isn't, it's seeking attention and that's sad, at the expense of others.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 19:23:16 GMT -5
So rape and sexual assault on U.S. college and university campuses does not exist? Did someone post this? I sure didn't. "Another big fat lie about a rape that never happened which was used to tout the notion of "rape culture"." You do realize, of course, that the outer-most quote DOESN'T even remotely say what you put in the middle quote... right?
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 8, 2014 19:25:11 GMT -5
"Another big fat lie about a rape that never happened which was used to tout the notion of "rape culture"." You do realize, of course, that the outer-most quote DOESN'T even remotely say what you put in the middle quote... right? Oh please.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 19:27:31 GMT -5
Someone blowing away a rapist or any other criminal is doing a public service. I 'd that, but only while they are in the process of the illegal act. I don't support Vigilantism.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 19:29:28 GMT -5
You do realize, of course, that the outer-most quote DOESN'T even remotely say what you put in the middle quote... right? Oh please. You can "Oh please." it, all you want. That doesn't change that fact that it doesn't say what you are trying to make it say.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 8, 2014 19:32:16 GMT -5
Anyone who writes "But in my heart of hearts, I think it's fine to slap a woman now and then-- open handed-- when she deserves it." and has no respect for women is going to deny there is a rape culture.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 19:39:30 GMT -5
Anyone who writes "But in my heart of hearts, I think it's fine to slap a woman now and then-- open handed-- when she deserves it." and has no respect for women is going to deny there is a rape culture. I'm not going to argue that point... because it does have SOME merit, however, that still doesn't change the fact that the one statement doesn't even remotely mean what you are trying to make it look like it meant.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 8, 2014 21:23:55 GMT -5
So its open season on the mentally and physically handicapped because they can't strike fear into potential attacker's hearts?
No, we can shoot people on their behalf.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 8, 2014 21:30:30 GMT -5
If it's true, it's awful. If it isn't, it's seeking attention and that's sad, at the expense of others. Journalists are supposed to sniff out attention seekers. They didn't because the "journalist" was seeking a story that fits an agenda. That's what journalism is anymore- where can I find a story I can plug into my prefabricated template / worldview in order to create and perpetuate my alternate reality, and push my agenda on people? Because the only way the agenda is saleable is in the context of the alternate reality.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 8, 2014 21:31:15 GMT -5
Anyone who writes "But in my heart of hearts, I think it's fine to slap a woman now and then-- open handed-- when she deserves it." and has no respect for women is going to deny there is a rape culture. Who said that quote above? What is your point?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 8, 2014 21:35:05 GMT -5
Wasn't that they didn't 'bother' to investigate the facts - the person who wrote the article assured 'Jackie' that she would not be calling people at the fraternity and university because 'Jackie' was afraid and ashamed. She was right to be afraid, since internet trolls are now trying to ferret out her real identify. I don't know what happened in this particular case, but I can guarantee it absolutely insure women continue to under report rapes, because who wants to become this kind of national target? I went to college, and on the rare occasions I went to a frat house, it was with a pack of girlfriends and didn't drink much, and I never let a guy get me in a room alone - forcing yourself on drunk women was a college sport way back then, and I have no doubt the sport continues. Only difference now is the date drugs that make it oh so easy to get what you want without consequences. Well ain't that sweet of her. We wouldn't want to inconvenience the accuser by doing some cursory examination of the facts before we trash the accused parties, the fraternity, and the university to the nation. That would just be mean spirited. She deserves to be outed. Preferably in a libel suit, along with her "campus rape activist" allies.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 8, 2014 22:51:33 GMT -5
Anyone who writes "But in my heart of hearts, I think it's fine to slap a woman now and then-- open handed-- when she deserves it." and has no respect for women is going to deny there is a rape culture. Who said that quote above? What is your point? You.
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Post by Opti on Dec 8, 2014 23:23:19 GMT -5
Wasn't that they didn't 'bother' to investigate the facts - the person who wrote the article assured 'Jackie' that she would not be calling people at the fraternity and university because 'Jackie' was afraid and ashamed. She was right to be afraid, since internet trolls are now trying to ferret out her real identify. I don't know what happened in this particular case, but I can guarantee it absolutely insure women continue to under report rapes, because who wants to become this kind of national target? I went to college, and on the rare occasions I went to a frat house, it was with a pack of girlfriends and didn't drink much, and I never let a guy get me in a room alone - forcing yourself on drunk women was a college sport way back then, and I have no doubt the sport continues. Only difference now is the date drugs that make it oh so easy to get what you want without consequences. Well ain't that sweet of her. We wouldn't want to inconvenience the accuser by doing some cursory examination of the facts before we trash the accused parties, the fraternity, and the university to the nation. That would just be mean spirited. She deserves to be outed. Preferably in a libel suit, along with her "campus rape activist" allies. The frat might do that, who knows? The university seems to have a not so good rep at this point on rape so I'm not sure how going after her would clean their image. Maybe I missed something, but I didn't think the article had full names of the accused nor promised they were accurate, i.e. not made up.
The frat might have a case. Not sure what the university could sue for. What are you going to sue your so called campus rape activist allies for?
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 8, 2014 23:41:32 GMT -5
Interesting article about UVA from 2010. A History of Violence: Not Huguely, But the University of VirginiaThe recent killing of University of Virginia lacrosse player and student Yeardley Love, allegedly at the hands of her ex-boyfriend and fellow lacrosse player and student, George Huguely V, is a tragic chapter for my alma mater. Issues of dating violence, murder, sexual assault and stalking have long haunted the University of Virginia. In 1984, when I was a freshman, I was drugged and gang-raped by a pack of three members of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity at UVA. I did not know any of them. I remembered one of the rapes graphically -- the violence, the pain. The next day, when I awoke wrapped in a bloody sheet, thrown on a sofa, I went through the man's mail. I needed to know his name in order to report him. I sat across from the then Dean of Students, Robert Canevari, and told him what had happened to me. With the blood still leaking from me and my face bruised, he asked me, "Are you sure you didn't have sex with this man and you don't want to admit that you aren't a 'good girl'?" There was no investigation, no paper trail and no prosecution, although I went to the hospital, Student Health, the Dean of Students, and the University Police and made dozens of reports. I was told by the Dean of Students that the Charlottesville Police had no jurisdiction over Phi Kappa Psi and was ordered not to call them. The deans said that they had spoken with the young man in question and told me "he said it was consensual." He, the rapist, withdrew from the University and was thus "no longer a danger" to me. I was told, in so many words and actions, to go away. I did not, but my life was diminished. I felt that I did not matter. Rest of article here: A History of Violence: Not Huguely, But the University of Virginia
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 4:22:38 GMT -5
Wasn't that they didn't 'bother' to investigate the facts - the person who wrote the article assured 'Jackie' that she would not be calling people at the fraternity and university because 'Jackie' was afraid and ashamed. She was right to be afraid, since internet trolls are now trying to ferret out her real identify. I don't know what happened in this particular case, but I can guarantee it absolutely insure women continue to under report rapes, because who wants to become this kind of national target? I went to college, and on the rare occasions I went to a frat house, it was with a pack of girlfriends and didn't drink much, and I never let a guy get me in a room alone - forcing yourself on drunk women was a college sport way back then, and I have no doubt the sport continues. Only difference now is the date drugs that make it oh so easy to get what you want without consequences. Yes, it was actually that they didn't investigate the facts or make any reference to the fact that they didn't investigate the facts. RS is responsible for making her this kind of national target by not investigating or at least telling their audience that they didn't.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Dec 9, 2014 8:17:53 GMT -5
Who said that quote above? What is your point? You. Wrong. I knew you thought so, which is why I asked. Sorry, but I never said it.
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