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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 30, 2014 8:48:14 GMT -5
he is in a dead heat right now. hopefully this will kick him to the curb. The race has new life to be sure. Last week I was all but ready to call it over. But the challenger has crawled back to even, as you note above, and yesterday the third party "spoiler" held a somewhat bizarre press conference releasing his supporters to vote their conscience, and vote for whomever they wished. However he did not drop out. Meanwhile Ind. Sen King changed his endorsement to Michaud. So it is getting interesting once again.
yes. apparently, the independent challenger and the DEMOCRAT are more aligned in this race, so i agree that this move, however bizarre, favors the Democrat. i think your governor crazypants might lose this one, but we need some new polling that says that, given that this race has been trending for LaPage since APRIL.
I don't think the Ebola nurse thing will hurt him though, unless he badly overplays it. They have a state cop posted outside her house. If he strong arms her it would play badly I think. Short of that, a lot of people (sadly) do want her confined.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 30, 2014 8:50:52 GMT -5
My understanding was that it wasn't so much the fact that bush meat or wild game is popular in Africa, but that it's often undercooked or improperly prepared, which allows humans to get sick from what's in the meat. In many instances, catching the diseases mentioned above often occurs due to the cutting of the meat, in which animal blood and other fluids may wind up on the people cutting it, thereby infecting them. Another way that people get infected is due to the fact that some portions of the meat may not be completely cooked. This often occurs due to the type of heating source employed: open fires over which the meat is simply hung.[19] Improper preparation of any infected animal is often fatal.[20]yeah, it is probably the dressing of the meat, and doing it with bare hands, that gets people sick.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 30, 2014 8:57:47 GMT -5
My understanding was that it wasn't so much the fact that bush meat or wild game is popular in Africa, but that it's often undercooked or improperly prepared, which allows humans to get sick from what's in the meat. In many instances, catching the diseases mentioned above often occurs due to the cutting of the meat, in which animal blood and other fluids may wind up on the people cutting it, thereby infecting them. Another way that people get infected is due to the fact that some portions of the meat may not be completely cooked. This often occurs due to the type of heating source employed: open fires over which the meat is simply hung.[19] Improper preparation of any infected animal is often fatal.[20]yeah, it is probably the dressing of the meat, and doing it with bare hands, that gets people sick. Not washing your hands after handling raw chicken and other uncooked meats may get you an unhealthy case of salmonella.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 30, 2014 9:02:39 GMT -5
yeah, it is probably the dressing of the meat, and doing it with bare hands, that gets people sick. Not washing your hands after handling raw chicken and other uncooked meats may get you an unhealthy case of salmonella. Most food poisoning is not does not make you contagious, though.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 30, 2014 9:10:59 GMT -5
Not washing your hands after handling raw chicken and other uncooked meats may get you an unhealthy case of salmonella. Most food poisoning is not does not make you contagious, though. But if you do not wash you hands after handing the raw meat and, say, hand prepare a tossed salad for your family, you have passed on the germs to your family. In that sense, you possibly passed salmonella on to your family. They caught 'it' from you.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Oct 30, 2014 9:12:10 GMT -5
Most food poisoning is not does not make you contagious, though. But if you do not wash you hands after handing the raw meat and, say, hand prepare a tossed salad for your family, you have passed on the germs to your family. In that sense, you possibly passed salmonella on to your family. They caught 'it' from you. Yup.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Oct 30, 2014 9:13:39 GMT -5
Most food poisoning is not does not make you contagious, though. But if you do not wash you hands after handing the raw meat and, say, hand prepare a tossed salad for your family, you have passed on the germs to your family. In that sense, you possibly passed salmonella on to your family. They caught 'it' from you. Don't make us quarantine you!
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Post by Opti on Oct 30, 2014 9:16:33 GMT -5
Oh man. I bet Archie makes ass pasta too.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 30, 2014 9:19:09 GMT -5
But if you do not wash you hands after handing the raw meat and, say, hand prepare a tossed salad for your family, you have passed on the germs to your family. In that sense, you possibly passed salmonella on to your family. They caught 'it' from you. Don't make us quarantine you! If I don't get my way, I want to go down in history as 'Salmonella Tennesseer", just like Typhoid Mary. I shall serve Chicken Tartare to everyone.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Oct 30, 2014 9:20:10 GMT -5
Oh man. I bet Archie makes ass pasta too. It's ass spaghetti. Archie isn't so posh as to serve ass pasta.
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Post by Opti on Oct 30, 2014 9:22:59 GMT -5
Oh man. I bet Archie makes ass pasta too. It's ass spaghetti. Archie isn't so posh as to serve ass pasta. Hey, I wanted to give the man options. He does live in CT, correct?
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 30, 2014 9:26:31 GMT -5
heh....ass spaghetti....heh......
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 30, 2014 9:29:22 GMT -5
It's ass spaghetti. Archie isn't so posh as to serve ass pasta. Hey, I wanted to give the man options. He does live in CT, correct?
I bet Archie drives down to New Haven where they have some fine ass pizza.
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Post by Opti on Oct 30, 2014 9:35:05 GMT -5
Hey, I wanted to give the man options. He does live in CT, correct?
I bet Archie drives down to New Haven where they have some fine ass pizza. Now I am getting worried. Is there a plethora of ass foods in CT? <Optimist makes a note not to eat food in CT.>
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Oct 30, 2014 9:38:32 GMT -5
Conneticut: Come for the History; Stay for the Ass Food
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Post by Opti on Oct 30, 2014 9:45:26 GMT -5
Conneticut: Come for the History; Stay for the Ass Food Yikes! Slogans that never got adopted for $100?
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 30, 2014 10:18:39 GMT -5
Oh man. I bet Archie makes ass pasta too. It's ass spaghetti. Archie isn't so posh as to serve ass pasta. Served with ebola-nut rubbed garlic bread. That one almost had me reprinting a 60 page contract because I had just sipped coffee
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Oct 30, 2014 12:39:23 GMT -5
This is the kind of thing that is the reason health experts and those who have actually worked with the virus say that broad quarantines and such overreactions only serve to make it harder to fight the disease that they are trying to prevent. We say one thing about wanting to fix the problem, but we do another. It's ridiculous for a fairly enlightened society who wants to be at the center of a global society. news.yahoo.com/ebola-fears-infect-louisiana-medical-conference-161039178.html
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Ebola fears have infected a medical conference on the subject. Louisiana state health officials told thousands of doctors planning to attend a tropical diseases meeting this weekend in New Orleans to stay away if they have been to certain African countries or have had contact with an Ebola patient in the last 21 days.
The order came in a letter Wednesday to the American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene, which made clear it did not agree with the decision. Several doctors, including some from the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, now may not be able to attend or present studies at the meeting, which runs Sunday through Wednesday.
State officials said a similar letter will go to organizers of the American Public Health Association, which plans its annual meeting in New Orleans Nov. 15-19.
The letter acknowledges that even people infected with the Ebola virus do not spread the disease unless they are showing symptoms. But it says that because people with a travel or exposure history to Ebola should avoid large group settings, "we see no utility in you traveling to New Orleans to simply be confined to your room." ~~~~~~snip~~~~~~~ "We certainly have folks who know this disease very well and we were looking forward to having world experts discuss it," said Magill, also an official at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates is to speak at the conference's opening session on Sunday.
Magill said he did not know how many of the 3,500 registered for the conference would now not be able to attend, but added, "I'm sure some people will choose not to come out of protest" to Louisiana's stance.
"I don't agree with it at all," said Dr. John Schieffelin, an infectious diseases expert at Tulane University in New Orleans who will attend the conference. He just published a study in this week's New England Journal of Medicine giving the most detailed information yet on symptoms and treatment of Ebola cases in Sierra Leone, and returned from that country in August.
"It's just one more thing that's going to slow down the science and research effort" and ultimately could hurt control of the disease, Schieffelin said of the state's policy. It's an overreaction to perceived risk and "comes off as a little xenophobic," he said.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 30, 2014 13:51:06 GMT -5
a little?
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Post by Cookies Galore on Oct 30, 2014 16:40:50 GMT -5
Hey, I wanted to give the man options. He does live in CT, correct?
I bet Archie drives down to New Haven where they have some fine ass pizza. Mmm... ass pizza...
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2014 13:06:46 GMT -5
got this from another poster this morning. pretty much sums it up for me: www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/oct/19/george-will/george-will-claims-sneeze-cough-spread-ebola/As the national effort ramps up to beat back Ebola, the Obama administration has been taking heat. Critics say the president and top public health officials painted too rosy a picture of the country’s state of readiness. As proof, they point to the infection of two Dallas health care workers who treated the first person to die of Ebola on U.S. soil.
Conservative pundit George Will attacked what to him was the hubris in those early statements.
"The problem is the original assumption, said with great certitude if not certainty, was that you need to have direct contact, meaning with bodily fluids from someone because it’s (Ebola) not airborne," Will said Oct. 19 on Fox News Sunday.
"There are doctors who are saying that in a sneeze or some cough, some of the airborne particles can be infectious." Will also said Ebola could survive on a dry surface "for a number of days." when asked what doctors?, Will is unable to produce any. remind you of anyone? here is the response to Will's assertions: "We are not aware of any published data about the viability or infectiousness of the Ebola organism in aerosols in the real world," Brosseau told PunditFact. "It appears unlikely that the public will be exposed to infectious aerosols because they are not likely to encounter infected people experiencing the severe symptoms."
We found similar views in the Oxford Journal of Infectious Diseases, and summaries issued by the Centers for Disease Control , the World Health Organization and the New England Journal of Medicine.
Adam Lauring, an infectious disease researcher at the University of Michigan, emphasized that Ebola is not a respiratory disease. Coughing and sneezing are not symptoms in the way that they are with the flu.
Stephen Gire, a research scientist in the Sabeti Lab at Harvard University, said if someone with Ebola sneezed or coughed into your face when you were close to them, that could transmit the virus through droplets.
But, "It’s important to note that this form of transmission does not constitute 'airborne,' " Gire said. "This is still a form of direct contact."
edit: i don't normally care for PolitiFact, but this is excellent.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2014 13:10:26 GMT -5
"head in the sand liberals" : 1 "paranoid conservatives" 0
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 31, 2014 13:21:06 GMT -5
Good on ya, Judge LaVerdiere, and thanks!
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Post by lynnerself on Oct 31, 2014 13:24:12 GMT -5
Good on ya, Judge LaVerdiere, and thanks! The judge thanked Hickox for her service in Africa and acknowledged the gravity of restricting someone's constitutional rights without solid science to back it up.
"The court is fully aware of the misconceptions, misinformation, bad science and bad information being spread from shore to shore in our country with respect to Ebola," he wrote. "The court is fully aware that people are acting out of fear and that this fear is not entirely rational." At last, a voice of reason.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2014 13:30:02 GMT -5
this is how i was hoping it would go. it is what judges are paid to do: be the voice of reason among the nutsack crazy hysteria.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 31, 2014 13:32:36 GMT -5
What was attempted with this nurse is, to me, a perfect example of what happens when those supposed to be your leaders are actually followers. So glad this judge had the oomph to set them straight!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 13:34:55 GMT -5
sweetdreams will be busy tonight perfecting her new ebola chlorine soap!
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2014 13:44:55 GMT -5
What was attempted with this nurse is, to me, a perfect example of what happens when those supposed to be your leaders are actually followers. So glad this judge had the oomph to set them straight! yeah. there is a saying on the populist left: when the people lead, the leaders will follow. amen.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 31, 2014 13:46:41 GMT -5
What was attempted with this nurse is, to me, a perfect example of what happens when those supposed to be your leaders are actually followers. So glad this judge had the oomph to set them straight! yeah. there is a saying on the populist left: when the people lead, the leaders will follow. amen. In this case, I'd say it's been the sensationalist press leading and both the public and their "leaders" following.
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