ArchietheDragon
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:20:15 GMT -5
Hitting the woman would have been much more fun. We have as much right as anyone else to go out to dinner. Not sure when that right was taken away. Perhaps the moment you decided not to control your kids in public? ROFL!
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Post by tloonya on Sept 29, 2014 8:20:56 GMT -5
I must have missed a memo where going out to dinner became a right. Instead of trying to hit the woman with a breadstick, you wife would have been better off trying to keep your kids less loud Hitting the woman would have been much more fun. We have as much right as anyone else to go out to dinner. Not sure when that right was taken away. You need to teach your kids how to behave in public AT HOME and THEN and only THEN take them to a breakfast to IHOP (its loud as hell anyway) and IF they are safe out from IHOP - try to take them to...McD, then elsewhere and only when you know they are responding to parents voice in a calmly and quiet manner - take them to nicer establishment. And don't forget - if you are messing with a wrong woman - that broom can be up your wife's arz!
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:21:41 GMT -5
Hitting the woman would have been much more fun. We have as much right as anyone else to go out to dinner. Not sure when that right was taken away. You need to teach your kids how to behave in public AT HOME and THEN and only THEN take them to a breakfast to IHOP (its loud as hell anyway) and IF they are safe out from IHOP - try to take them to...McD, then elsewhere and only when you know they are responding to parents voice in a calmly and quiet manner - take them to nicer establishment. And don't forget - if you are messing with a wrong woman - that broom can be up your wife's arz! That would have been fun to see. We had 8 adults, though and they only had two, so I think we could have taken them.
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Post by tloonya on Sept 29, 2014 8:23:02 GMT -5
Perhaps the moment you decided not to control your kids in public? ROFL! You are actually rolling on the floor laughing at fair post? This is why your kids don't know what's right. It's time to start be a parent. Not another kid.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:23:09 GMT -5
Hitting the woman would have been much more fun. We have as much right as anyone else to go out to dinner. Not sure when that right was taken away. You need to teach your kids how to behave in public AT HOME and THEN and only THEN take them to a breakfast to IHOP (its loud as hell anyway) and IF they are safe out from IHOP - try to take them to...McD, then elsewhere and only when you know they are responding to parents voice in a calmly and quiet manner - take them to nicer establishment. And don't forget - if you are messing with a wrong woman - that broom can be up your wife's arz! And they are good enough. If some bitchy woman has a stick up her ass, I am not going to worry about it.
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Post by tloonya on Sept 29, 2014 8:24:35 GMT -5
You need to teach your kids how to behave in public AT HOME and THEN and only THEN take them to a breakfast to IHOP (its loud as hell anyway) and IF they are safe out from IHOP - try to take them to...McD, then elsewhere and only when you know they are responding to parents voice in a calmly and quiet manner - take them to nicer establishment. And don't forget - if you are messing with a wrong woman - that broom can be up your wife's arz! That would have been fun to see. We had 8 adults, though and they only had two, so I think we could have taken them. Are you sure that 6 of those 'your' adults wouldn't turn on you if someone had started? I am pretty sure they were annoyed as that woman was. But you were probably paying for dinner
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:25:46 GMT -5
That would have been fun to see. We had 8 adults, though and they only had two, so I think we could have taken them. Are you sure that 6 of those 'your' adults wouldn't turn on you if someone had started? I am pretty sure they were annoyed as that woman was. But you were probably paying for dinner My family has my back. We are not fighters, but I think we could have held our own. My Mom alone would have gone crazy grandma apeshit on her.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Sept 29, 2014 8:26:10 GMT -5
I really do hope you are joking Archie, bc that's as obnoxious as it gets - if you really think that woman was wrong for not wanting to hear your brats being loud
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Post by tloonya on Sept 29, 2014 8:26:38 GMT -5
You need to teach your kids how to behave in public AT HOME and THEN and only THEN take them to a breakfast to IHOP (its loud as hell anyway) and IF they are safe out from IHOP - try to take them to...McD, then elsewhere and only when you know they are responding to parents voice in a calmly and quiet manner - take them to nicer establishment. And don't forget - if you are messing with a wrong woman - that broom can be up your wife's arz! And they are good enough. If some bitchy woman has a stick up her ass, I am not going to worry about it. When your kids will grow up you will be back to normal adult age when YOU going to be that woman. It is NOT ok to not being able to control small children in public places.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:27:12 GMT -5
I really do hope you are joking Archie, bc that's as obnoxious as it gets - if you really think that woman was wrong for not wanting to hear your brats being loud I am not joking. yes my kids were being loud. But that woman was super bitchy. I am certainly not going to adjust for her. She can adjust for me for all I care.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:27:41 GMT -5
And they are good enough. If some bitchy woman has a stick up her ass, I am not going to worry about it. When your kids will grow up you will be back to normal adult age when YOU going to be that woman. It is NOT ok to not being able to control small children in public places. I can't wait until I am old and grumpy and yell at kids to get off my lawn. But I am not there yet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 8:34:17 GMT -5
I didn't even bother taking my kids to a restaurant beyond fast food level or family establishments between the ages of sleeping infant to Kindy. Which means DS#2 still hasn't been to anything fancier than an Applebees yet.
Less stress for me, them and everyone around us. Sitting still and quiet for that long is hard for young kids.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 29, 2014 8:37:01 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I think it's managements job to ask people who can't behave in public, with or without kids, to leave. It shouldn't have to be up to a customer to do managements job. You don't like dealing with obnoxious customers, then it's not the job for you.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:49:40 GMT -5
I did feel bad when we went camping earlier this summer and my daughter woke up screaming in the middle of night and was not consolable for what felt like half and hour. I am sure that every campsite within a quarter mile could hear her.
Because we went camping last year and in the site next to us the kids were in tents and the parents were in a camper and one of their kids was screaming for mom for what seems like all night and I did not appreciate that.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Sept 29, 2014 8:51:09 GMT -5
I just don't understand why even the parents want to be out at a restaurant with loud children?
I agree. Just like I don't understand why gays even want to be married. In both situations you just end up miserable.
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Post by gooddecisions on Sept 29, 2014 8:55:14 GMT -5
I'm on Team Archie. If people require it to be super quiet and peaceful, they should get their food to go and stay at home where their surroundings can be controlled.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Sept 29, 2014 9:02:13 GMT -5
I don't think it's fair to little children to actually expect them to go sit still and quiet somewhere for a couple of hours. They get bored, for Heaven's sake. It may be great fun for the adults to get away and have someone else cook for them and serve them, but to a little kid, it's just boring. It's like taking a kid to church and expecting them to sit perfectly still and quiet through a long sermon. They are little kids. They want to be up and about playing.
Having said that, I would either not take my little ones to begin with or would leave immediately upon them causing a disturbance. While I may think my hypothetical kids are the cutest little things in the world, others do not. I couldn't impose on others like that. It's just rude, inconsiderate and selfish. More than likely, those people are going to raise rude, inconsiderate and selfish kids. There is, however, a difference in kids being a little loud and kids being totally uncontrolled and being allowed to scream at the top of their lungs and run wild. I can't think of many places I've been that were totally silent.
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Post by tloonya on Sept 29, 2014 9:06:58 GMT -5
I'm on Team Archie. If people require it to be super quiet and peaceful, they should get their food to go and stay at home where their surroundings can be controlled. I am always on a team Archie! Not when he is being with kids and wife though...
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Post by gooddecisions on Sept 29, 2014 9:14:34 GMT -5
I was out at a street festival yesterday with my 2 year old and 5 month old. I was trying to simultaneously order food from a truck, hold a table and not lose either one of them. I asked a lady at a big table if we could join her and she said okay. She told me there was no chance she would have gone to a street festival when her kids were that age. She said it wouldn't have been fun for anyone. I asked her what the options were, hole up in the house watching t.v. all day everyday? That doesn't sound fun for anyone either. We had a great time and I didn't lose either of them. Neither disturbed the peace and if they were loud, the music was louder.
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Post by midjd on Sept 29, 2014 9:17:04 GMT -5
I guess I either have a higher noise tolerance than others, or live in a more considerate area... I can't think of a single time I've had to move tables or even noticed an out-of-control kid while eating. And I waitressed at a "family" restaurant for four summers.
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Post by tloonya on Sept 29, 2014 9:17:14 GMT -5
I was out at a street festival yesterday with my 2 year old and 5 month old. I was trying to simultaneously order food from a truck, hold a table and not lose either one of them. I asked a lady at a big table if we could join her and she said okay. She told me there was no chance she would have gone to a street festival when her kids were that age. She said it wouldn't have been fun for anyone. I asked her what the options were, hole up in the house watching t.v. all day everyday? That doesn't sound fun for anyone either. We had a great time and I didn't lose either of them. Neither disturbed the peace and if they were loud, the music was louder. I am pretty sure that STREET festivals with LOUD music were created for family fun including kids of all ages. No one firing firework inside, do they? Also there are some parents who are teaching their kids to use 'inside' and 'outside' voice.
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Post by gooddecisions on Sept 29, 2014 9:26:39 GMT -5
I am a very quiet person and my kids are quiet too, but the older I get the less tolerant I am of people who demand the public be quiet. Case in point, we had a 2 day meeting where 10 of us were in a room to watch recorded webinars together and discuss. All of us normally work from home. The senior person very rudely said to keep the computers closed the next day as she could not focus with the typing. It created a huge awkward moment. Nobody wanted her there or needed her there. If she needed it to be quiet, she should have stayed in her home office. The point was to be together and discuss the content- not to be as quiet as possible.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Sept 29, 2014 9:36:32 GMT -5
I am a very quiet person and my kids are quiet too, but t he older I get the less tolerant I am of people who demand the public be quiet. Case in point, we had a 2 day meeting where 10 of us were in a room to watch recorded webinars together and discuss. All of us normally work from home. The senior person very rudely said to keep the computers closed the next day as she could not focus with the typing. It created a huge awkward moment. Nobody wanted her there or needed her there. If she needed it to be quiet, she should have stayed in her home office. The point was to be together and discuss the content- not to be as quiet as possible. Yes, how dare we should expect people being courteous to others and take someone else besides themselves into consideration.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 29, 2014 9:39:42 GMT -5
I see no problem with asking to be given a table elsewhere. If you were at Chucky Cheese, or someplace like that, I might question why you chose that place to eat; however, if you were at a sit-down restaurant you had a right to expect to be able to eat your meal in relative peace, IMO.
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Post by Shooby on Sept 29, 2014 9:40:25 GMT -5
Well, I do understand that point too. Like , I have been at swimming pools and some adults are standing in the pool reading a book and then give the evil eye to kids splashing in the pool. It's a pool. It's meant for splashing. So, yeah, there are also those type of Nazis who demand people conform to their standard as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 9:42:54 GMT -5
I'll admit I have an issue with distracting noise. It causes a lot of anxiety for me, and if I was at a nice sit down restaurant which I only get to do a couple times a year, it would upset me. But, I'm also not one to say anything, so I'd suffer through it.
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Post by Shooby on Sept 29, 2014 9:44:24 GMT -5
There are also a lot of people who seem to despise children. Children have a right to breathe, laugh, talk , etc as well.
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Post by Shooby on Sept 29, 2014 9:45:44 GMT -5
I am soooo glad for the rise of ipods and smartphones and Dr. Dre beats. It used to get annoying when you couldn't go anywhere without loud music blaring in your ear. Even at Sheetz, I stop to get gas and they have speakers blaring music out at the pumps. Way too loud. Do I really need to hear music to pump gas?
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Post by gooddecisions on Sept 29, 2014 9:51:30 GMT -5
I was just thinking that for the most part- every time I see kids in restaurants or waiting rooms or wherever- their heads are buried in a devise and they aren't being disruptive at all.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Sept 29, 2014 10:09:42 GMT -5
Personally, I don't want to be around my kids when they are screaming (happy or angry). So I don't blame anyone else who doesn't either. We have yet to go to anywhere "fancy" with the kids.... unless you count Ruby Tuesday's fancy. There have been a couple times where the kids have been upset/loud. If they are just being loud, we get them to quiet down. If they are upset (screaming/crying/tantrum), we take them outside. We actually gave up lunch on vacation because DD was so upset. I didn't blame her for being upset - overtired, hot, had diarrhea and bad diaper rash. I was going to stay outside with her, but DH just said lets go.
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