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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:13:07 GMT -5
X1000 Lol
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Post by Firebird on Sept 3, 2014 18:14:15 GMT -5
Albut you aren't being reasonable. You are being cheap and want to infringe on me. Upgrade your seat and all will be well
How is asking someone who reclined his seat randomly during a 2 hour afternoon flight during beverage service to un-recline for two minutes so I can adjust myself and my tray to where it's not sticking in my kid's back anymore unreasonable or cheap?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:14:21 GMT -5
That's the real reason people fly with babies on lap. They're free. Exactly. It isn't something I would be comfortable but I know lots of people do it. It is allowed so it is their choice. But don't complain because you now need more room
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Post by 973beachbum on Sept 3, 2014 18:19:22 GMT -5
I don't think anyone wants "more" space. What we are asking for is the space we bought when we bought the ticket. Only in this discussion can my lap possibly be considered someone else's space. I am the one who normally volunteers to move to make others comfortable on planes because I know I have much shorter legs than most people. And I have been hit in the head by the seat in front of me. I shouldn't have to upgrade to a seat that doesn't get me assualted. When I am the one complaining that the seat in front of me is so close it hits me when reclined, with legs shorter than a third grader, there is a big problem and it isn't with my expectations since I am only expecting not to be hit by the seat in front of me. And I'm 5'8.5" and never had an issue...and I wear long pants (so no one accuses me of having really short legs). I fly all the time and I have never seen a seat that reclines more than a few inches www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2740459/Unruly-passengers-force-Delta-Airlines-plane-divert-THIRD-mid-air-fight-reclining-seats-just-week.htmlLook at those pictures. They are typical of the flights I have been on. While it isn't lying in someone's lap, being stuck behind someone doing that in a seat that didn't recline wasn't an option. And there was no option to upgrade. When I booked they only had a few seats left. Again I don't think it is okay to sell a seat to me that allows me to be hit by the person in front of me. That seat purchase entitiles me to a seat that is free from being touched by the seat in front of me, the say way people complained that people who spill out of their seat into the seat next to them wasn't okay.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:19:31 GMT -5
Albut you aren't being reasonable. You are being cheap and want to infringe on me. Upgrade your seat and all will be well
How is asking someone who reclined his seat randomly during a 2 hour afternoon flight during beverage service to un-recline for two minutes so I can adjust myself and my tray to where it's not sticking in my kid's back anymore unreasonable or cheap? Sounds like you out your child in a dangerous situation by not having her in a car seat, buckled into a seat. That passengers seat reclines. You are the mom with the responsibility to make sure your baby is kept safe on the flight. Your complaint was that "hat asshole reclined and hit baby bird" and that everyone should look behind them before reclining. But it isn't my job or your fellow passengers job to keep your baby from getting hit by a tray (I would never think that a tray would hit someone as I've never been hit by one). If the space isn't big enough to keep baby bird from getting hit, then you should by her a seat. Yes, the guy could have been nice and put his seat up.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:21:24 GMT -5
I never bought a seat for my son under the age of 2... Fortunately I was never on a completely full flight and would plop him in the seat next to me. Even if you have a car seat/infant seat, I beileve they ask you to hold the child on your lap during takeoff and landing anyway... No one can recline during take off or landing so that wouldn't be an issue. I'm a helicopter mom so I doubt I would have risked being on a flight with no seats for the baby. But I didn't fly back then so I don't know what I really would have done.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:27:23 GMT -5
No one can recline during take off or landing so that wouldn't be an issue. I'm a helicopter mom so I doubt I would have risked being on a flight with no seats for the baby. But I didn't fly back then so I don't know what I really would have done. Can you even buckle an infant carrier into the airplane seat? I know when the boys were a little older and we flew, the airlines specifically said car seats were not allowed on planes because they could not be buckled in safely but I don't know if infant carriers are different? I don't have a clue. I never flew with a baby. I'm not sure I would feel safe without a carrier. Have I mentioned I'm a helicopter mom??lol
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:31:25 GMT -5
I don't have a clue. I never flew with a baby. I'm not sure I would feel safe without a carrier. Have I mentioned I'm a helicopter mom??lol I'm sure your 15 yr old would like it if you could at least turn her seat to forward facing... Lmao! I just checked, the FAA recommends all kids under 2 be strapped into a seat (something a out an approved seat...not sure if that is the same as a carrier). So it can be done and is recommended but it is not required
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Post by Firebird on Sept 3, 2014 18:34:55 GMT -5
I think we already established that I'm a crappy, cheap and negligent parent for bringing my baby on a flight and not buying a seat for her
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Post by Ryan on Sept 3, 2014 18:36:38 GMT -5
I would just say that it was normal shifting in my seat and then start doing it again when she left Quite honestly, I would get a kick out of you doing this for 6 or 7 hours....I would be happy knowing that it would become quite bothersome for you after awhile. You are a grown man so it wouldn't be as easy as you think to kick the back of my seat for 6 hours....so I would quite enjoy knowing how much trouble you were growing through...well worth it to me :-) It would be no problem for me. I do it strategically just when the person is getting comfortable. I actually love doing it because it's impossible for the person in front not to get mad.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:37:38 GMT -5
Lmao! I just checked, the FAA recommends all kids under 2 be strapped into a seat (something a out an approved seat...not sure if that is the same as a carrier). So it can be done and is recommended but it is not required Well thank god my baby days are over.. those little buggers are a lot of freaking work! Exactly! I take that back....15 year olds aren't exactly a walk in the park!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:41:20 GMT -5
Quite honestly, I would get a kick out of you doing this for 6 or 7 hours....I would be happy knowing that it would become quite bothersome for you after awhile. You are a grown man so it wouldn't be as easy as you think to kick the back of my seat for 6 hours....so I would quite enjoy knowing how much trouble you were growing through...well worth it to me :-) It would be no problem for me. I do it strategically just when the person is getting comfortable. I actually love doing it because it's impossible for the person in front not to get mad. Whatever floats your boat. Given your maturity level I'm guessing you are a broke ass college kidi living with mommy and daddy. I'm guessing you don't have the funds to fly all that often And I'm cracking up just picturing some loser trying to kick a seat for hours! That would be a riot. I'm. It easily annoyed (I have two kids so when I would drivel g distance with them I endured getting my seat kicked for hours!). But I would probably video you for entertainment purposes once I landed and could share with my friends!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 18:48:18 GMT -5
Whatever floats your boat. Given your maturity level I'm guessing you are a broke ass college kidi living with mommy and daddy. I'm guessing you don't have the funds to fly all that often And I'm cracking up just picturing some loser trying to kick a seat for hours! That would be a riot. I'm. It easily annoyed (I have two kids so when I would drivel g distance with them I endured getting my seat kicked for hours!). But I would probably video you for entertainment purposes once I landed and could share with my friends! I actually picture him as somewhere between late 30's - mid 40's and completely miserable with his life so he deliberately makes others miserable to make himself feel better. Or it's hoops with a second user name so he can troll twice as often... Ooh...is he the one that lives in his moms basement that everyone always talks about?
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Post by hurley1980 on Sept 3, 2014 19:38:45 GMT -5
After reading this entire damn thread, I am going to be sure to buy out the entire row every time I fly now. I can't believe how rude some people are....on both sides of this fight! I'm glad I rarely fly, and I can usually get a one way flight for $100 or less where I do fly to. Buying out the whole row so I don't have to put up with a bunch of douche bags is definitely worth $300 one way!
My mom always says the world if full of rude and stupid people....
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Post by emma1420 on Sept 3, 2014 19:39:05 GMT -5
Or you drive. Or you wait until the child is older. There are some times when flying really is the only alternative. But, most of the time there are plenty of other alternatives. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you don't have kids... Sadly, I don't have children. However, I do travel frequently and i have a lot of horror stories. These include sitting next to a mother with her 20 month old lap child on a 10 hour flight who wanted to use me as a climbing frame, and the parents who opted to use their tray tablet as a changing station, and then the 12 hour overnight flight who screamed non-stop for most of the flight. Perhaps I have horrible luck, but I don't think I do. I feel bad for the parents who try to keep their children quiet and in their seat, but it's tough to ask a kid who doesn't understand why they need to stay quiet and still to do that.
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Post by Ryan on Sept 3, 2014 19:43:03 GMT -5
After reading this entire damn thread, I am going to be sure to buy out the entire row every time I fly now. I can't believe how rude some people are....on both sides of this fight! I'm glad I rarely fly, and I can usually get a one way flight for $100 or less where I do fly to. Buying out the whole row so I don't have to put up with a bunch of douche bags is definitely worth $300 one way!
My mom always says the world if full of rude and stupid people.... See, when people who don't like recliners resort to childish behavior (like the recliners) then they get all outraged. Like you guys who lean back with no regard, I just kick with no regard. You can say it won't bother you, but I know it will. Haha
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 3, 2014 20:07:24 GMT -5
Reclining isn't childish. Kicking the back of the seat is.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 3, 2014 20:10:07 GMT -5
I've been kicking this around in my head a little bit and thinking about how flying was "back in the olden days" (80-90s). I was routinely seated in an exit row, and there was no noticeable difference in seat spacing between those rows and the others. I was also seated in the front row several times, and it just felt a little weird. Most of these occasions were group trips--there was no difference in pricing back then. But back then, it really didn't matter since there was plenty of room In coach seasts--no matter where you sat. (Although, I was really jealous of the reclinability in business and first class. I can't sleep at all sitting up--even at the small recline we are arguing about.)
Back then, nobody bitched about other passengers reclining, though it sucked if you were stuck in the few rows that couldn't recline.
My point is, the airlines manufactured this controversy by adding rows of seats wherever they could squeeze them in. The spacing in the exit rows is probably the historical spacing of all the seats in coach.
Maybe we should call it the Walmartification of air travel. Squeeze a penny out of the price by lowering the quality.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 20:12:51 GMT -5
After reading this entire damn thread, I am going to be sure to buy out the entire row every time I fly now. I can't believe how rude some people are....on both sides of this fight! I'm glad I rarely fly, and I can usually get a one way flight for $100 or less where I do fly to. Buying out the whole row so I don't have to put up with a bunch of douche bags is definitely worth $300 one way!
My mom always says the world if full of rude and stupid people.... Buying the row won't help you....apparently my head will be in your lap if I'm in front of you!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 20:17:49 GMT -5
After reading this entire damn thread, I am going to be sure to buy out the entire row every time I fly now. I can't believe how rude some people are....on both sides of this fight! I'm glad I rarely fly, and I can usually get a one way flight for $100 or less where I do fly to. Buying out the whole row so I don't have to put up with a bunch of douche bags is definitely worth $300 one way!
My mom always says the world if full of rude and stupid people.... See, when people who don't like recliners resort to childish behavior (like the recliners) then they get all outraged. Like you guys who lean back with no regard, I just kick with no regard. You can say it won't bother you, but I know it will. Haha I'm still r it sure how you would actually get your foot up to kick the seat. Based on what everyone is yammering about, my tray would be in your stomach or my seat would be on your knees. How exactly are you going to kick? Either you are a midget or your broke ass has never actually been on a flight
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Post by movingforward on Sept 3, 2014 20:21:10 GMT -5
After reading this entire damn thread, I am going to be sure to buy out the entire row every time I fly now. I can't believe how rude some people are....on both sides of this fight! I'm glad I rarely fly, and I can usually get a one way flight for $100 or less where I do fly to. Buying out the whole row so I don't have to put up with a bunch of douche bags is definitely worth $300 one way!
My mom always says the world if full of rude and stupid people.... See, when people who don't like recliners resort to childish behavior (like the recliners) then they get all outraged. Like you guys who lean back with no regard, I just kick with no regard. You can say it won't bother you, but I know it will. Haha Lol! I feel sorry for your wife. Sounds like she has a huge child on her hands. All I picture is you stomping your feet and holding your breath until you pass out anytime she disagrees with you.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 3, 2014 20:27:37 GMT -5
See, when people who don't like recliners resort to childish behavior (like the recliners) then they get all outraged. Like you guys who lean back with no regard, I just kick with no regard. You can say it won't bother you, but I know it will. Haha Lol! I feel sorry for your wife. Sounds like she has a huge child on her hands. All I picture is you stomping your feet and holding your breath until you pass out anytime she disagrees with you. Lmao!! That is so true...his wife is either a saint or she drinks...a LOT!
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 3, 2014 21:02:29 GMT -5
Now if you go back to the Stone Age when I flew with kids, you actually could request the bulkhead so my kids got space, such as it was, to stand up in a bit or get down slightly and play with their toys.
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Post by Ryan on Sept 3, 2014 21:09:56 GMT -5
See, when people who don't like recliners resort to childish behavior (like the recliners) then they get all outraged. Like you guys who lean back with no regard, I just kick with no regard. You can say it won't bother you, but I know it will. Haha I'm still r it sure how you would actually get your foot up to kick the seat. Based on what everyone is yammering about, my tray would be in your stomach or my seat would be on your knees. How exactly are you going to kick? Either you are a midget or your broke ass has never actually been on a flight I'm very limber, so it would be no problem at all to place both of my feet on the back of your seat. Based on the way you're talking, I think you're probably the "broke ass" one. No wonder it's Miss Tequila and not Mrs. Tequila...haha.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 3, 2014 21:31:00 GMT -5
Now you're contradicting yourself. First of all, if you're so limber, a recliner should be no problem. Second of all, my husband truly is tall, and there is no possible way he could kick the seat in front of him.
(Response to Ryan, not MM)
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 3, 2014 22:13:30 GMT -5
Now if you go back to the Stone Age when I flew with kids, you actually could request the bulkhead so my kids got space, such as it was, to stand up in a bit or get down slightly and play with their toys. Yeah, I remember flying with an infant and a three year old. The flight attendant actually offered to carry the three year old off the plane for me. (The 3 year old turns 50 this year). And for some reason (I've forgotten) I had been upgraded to 1st... We had bulkhead seats and I had packed some new toys for the 3 y/o. Before the flight, he was invited to visit the cockpit.... It was actually a fun flight. The infant slept the whole time.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 4, 2014 5:15:24 GMT -5
I'm still r it sure how you would actually get your foot up to kick the seat. Based on what everyone is yammering about, my tray would be in your stomach or my seat would be on your knees. How exactly are you going to kick? Either you are a midget or your broke ass has never actually been on a flight I'm very limber, so it would be no problem at all to place both of my feet on the back of your seat. Based on the way you're talking, I think you're probably the "broke ass" one. No wonder it's Miss Tequila and not Mrs. Tequila...haha. Yep...you confirmed it. Broke ass who never flew
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 7:06:35 GMT -5
I never bought a seat for my son under the age of 2... Fortunately I was never on a completely full flight and would plop him in the seat next to me. Even if you have a car seat/infant seat, I beileve they ask you to hold the child on your lap during takeoff and landing anyway... no they do not. if you have purchased a seat for your child under 2 and have the carseat in the seat, the child shouldn't be on your lap for takeoff/landing. same with your child over 2 - they need to be in their carseat in their purchased seat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 7:08:42 GMT -5
No one can recline during take off or landing so that wouldn't be an issue. I'm a helicopter mom so I doubt I would have risked being on a flight with no seats for the baby. But I didn't fly back then so I don't know what I really would have done. Can you even buckle an infant carrier into the airplane seat? I know when the boys were a little older and we flew, the airlines specifically said car seats were not allowed on planes because they could not be buckled in safely but I don't know if infant carriers are different? yes carseats (both forward and rear facing) can be buckled into the airplane seat. I don't know when you flew, but in 2001 I buckled carseats into the airplane seat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 7:16:38 GMT -5
Can you even buckle an infant carrier into the airplane seat? I know when the boys were a little older and we flew, the airlines specifically said car seats were not allowed on planes because they could not be buckled in safely but I don't know if infant carriers are different? yes carseats (both forward and rear facing) can be buckled into the airplane seat. I don't know when you flew, but in 2001 I buckled carseats into the airplane seat. Like everything else with the airlines, it's random. The rules say that a car seat should be FAA-approved. Sometimes that's indicated on the seat, sometimes it's not. Eons ago when I flew with DS and he was a baby, USAirways actually looked it up on a list. If they decide it's FAA-approved, you can leave the child in on takeoff and landing. If it's not, they have to be in your arms during takeoff and landing, which is really stupid. Can you say "projectile"?
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