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Post by Opti on Jul 25, 2014 20:56:33 GMT -5
Pink, best wishes on getting the quit smoking thing to stick this next time.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jul 25, 2014 21:43:56 GMT -5
Pink, please do quit smoking. My mother smoked over 60 years. Her fatal illness was COPD, caused by smoking. Her lungs were so damaged by smoking. If you can't do it for yourself, do it for those that love you. Best of luck. You CAN do it.
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Post by midjd on Jul 25, 2014 21:58:35 GMT -5
Pink, I don't know if you've tried Chantix, and it doesn't work for everyone - but it did wonders for DH. He smoked from 15 - 29 and had "quit" probably a dozen times in the 7 years we'd been together - never for more than a week or two (and man was he crabby). But after a week on that he threw his cigs away and 18 months later he is still smoke-free.
I've never been anything but a social smoker (and not even that for 4-5 years now) but I've seen DH battle it firsthand. It's a very, very, very tough habit and anyone who manages to quit for any length of time has my respect.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 25, 2014 22:12:07 GMT -5
FYI: telling people you're deleting your account and then doing so isn't attention-whorish... People do stuff for any number of reasons.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jul 25, 2014 23:07:13 GMT -5
FYI: telling people you're deleting your account and then doing so isn't attention-whorish... People do stuff for any number of reasons. You're right - it really isn't attention-whorish when someone decides the boards are interfering with real life, family, job, etc, or they no longer have an reason to want to stay (lack of interest). There's many reasons people leave - most of it is based on the boards being too addictive and interfering with more important matters.
I look at it as a courtesy when they say "goodbye" - it's them letting people know they're leaving - rather than having people gossip about them after the fact, like they would if they deleted their account without a word.
There's really nothing said here that would make me storm off in a huff - only to come crawling back a few months later. That's not the mature approach.
I can let things roll off my back and go with the flow - yes, I have had one or two who have gone out of their way to target me or get under my skin, but I can scroll past their posts easily enough without reading or responding. I don't even use the Ignore button much because I can ignore any antagonizers easily enough on my own without having to resort to the tools available to me or leaving the board - they're not a part of my real life, so no point getting bent out of shape over something they might say.
I just shrug it off - all they're doing is showing their true colors.
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Post by sapphire12 on Jul 26, 2014 3:51:17 GMT -5
Pink -As you can see, many of us are rooting for your success in kicking the smoking habit for good. At times, we all have stumbled at something. You can do it. Best of luck in your journey!
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Post by swamp on Jul 26, 2014 9:18:38 GMT -5
FYI: telling people you're deleting your account and then doing so isn't attention-whorish... People do stuff for any number of reasons. Depends on how you do it. I'm leaving because you all are a bunch of meanie jerks and this place won't survive without me--attention whore I'm going to delete my account because everyone Hayes me, and I'm smarter than you troglodytes anyway--AW. I want to say goodby before I sign off, I have an issue in my personal life that I need to focus on-- courteous.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Jul 26, 2014 9:21:06 GMT -5
" I'm going to keep my account because everyone hates me, and I'm smarter than you troglodytes anyway--AW. " Also attention-whore . Although in my case, of course it's true.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 13:56:37 GMT -5
Pink, I don't know if you've tried Chantix, and it doesn't work for everyone - but it did wonders for DH. He smoked from 15 - 29 and had "quit" probably a dozen times in the 7 years we'd been together - never for more than a week or two (and man was he crabby). But after a week on that he threw his cigs away and 18 months later he is still smoke-free. I've never been anything but a social smoker (and not even that for 4-5 years now) but I've seen DH battle it firsthand. It's a very, very, very tough habit and anyone who manages to quit for any length of time has my respect. Yes, I finally tried Chantix even though I was really nervous about it after hearing/reading the horror stories. I was fine the first few weeks, but then I started getting very hostile and just plain mean. I know withdrawal has it's own symptoms, but my behavior was over the top and very out of character for me. The Chantix did make me not want to smoke, but I was scared I'd end up in jail or something so I stopped taking it. I lasted for another couple of months and started back smoking. I liked all the changes I made when I wasn't smoking. I'm going to quit again. My biggest problem is that I have so many people that stress me out and the first thing I want to do is smoke. I apologize for hi-jacking the thread.
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Post by sapphire12 on Jul 26, 2014 21:38:51 GMT -5
Pink -- No need to apologize. I know you know this, but you need to start doing something else when you are stressed and preferably something healthy. Go for a walk. Unless, you are at home, everywhere else that comes to mind, requires that you go outside to smoke. I often hear people say they eat more when they are trying to quit smoking. Just make it celery and/or carrot sticks. Seriously, we are here for you when you decide to take this journey.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 10:33:19 GMT -5
Pink -- No need to apologize. I know you know this, but you need to start doing something else when you are stressed and preferably something healthy. Go for a walk. Unless, you are at home, everywhere else that comes to mind, requires that you go outside to smoke. I often hear people say they eat more when they are trying to quit smoking. Just make it celery and/or carrot sticks. Seriously, we are here for you when you decide to take this journey. And this takes us back to the original topic, it's a perfect example of one of the reasons I stick around instead of leaving. I mentioned something I've struggled with in an unrelated posted and several posters chimed in to encourage me to lay that demon to rest and offered advice and support. I love it! Thank you.
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Post by Opti on Jul 27, 2014 23:44:26 GMT -5
For whoever posted #5, snow leopards, check out the new emote-
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Post by Jaguar on Jul 28, 2014 0:10:22 GMT -5
I love that emote that Virgil made especially for us.
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Post by Firebird on Jul 28, 2014 10:14:01 GMT -5
Pink, I don't know if you've tried Chantix, and it doesn't work for everyone - but it did wonders for DH. He smoked from 15 - 29 and had "quit" probably a dozen times in the 7 years we'd been together - never for more than a week or two (and man was he crabby). But after a week on that he threw his cigs away and 18 months later he is still smoke-free.
Interesting - DH asked his doctor about that when he wanted to quit, and she said it was really dangerous. I forget the specifics, it's been too long. But she vehemently recommended against it.
The patch worked for him, although he's still on them and only now (more than a year after quitting) transitioning to a lower dosage. He smoked approximately as long as your DH did.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 10:21:20 GMT -5
Pink, I don't know if you've tried Chantix, and it doesn't work for everyone - but it did wonders for DH. He smoked from 15 - 29 and had "quit" probably a dozen times in the 7 years we'd been together - never for more than a week or two (and man was he crabby). But after a week on that he threw his cigs away and 18 months later he is still smoke-free.Interesting - DH asked his doctor about that when he wanted to quit, and she said it was really dangerous. I forget the specifics, it's been too long. But she vehemently recommended against it. The patch worked for him, although he's still on them and only now (more than a year after quitting) transitioning to a lower dosage. He smoked approximately as long as your DH did. My sister and BIL both quit on Chantix this summer. They're probably 3 months smoke free now and no longer taking anything (I don't think). My sister had a much easier time of it than her husband, but it seems they're both past the worst of it. They'd both been smoking for 20+ years.
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Post by midjd on Jul 28, 2014 10:34:51 GMT -5
I think it can be dangerous - but not for everyone. My (anecdotal) experience is that about half of users love it and think it is the best thing ever, and the other half have crazy mood swings (more than the typical quitting-smoking ones), bad dreams, homicidal urges, etc. SIL and FIL fell into the latter category, while DH and MIL are going on 18-20 months smoke-free. I was concerned about the side effects, and was always bothering DH with questions ("Are you having suicidal thoughts? Do you feel sad or angry? Do you want to kill me right now?" ) but he said that he felt surprisingly good. Every other time he had tried to quit, he'd be in a REALLY shitty mood for a week or so (usually when his mood improved it meant he'd started back again) but on Chantix he was pretty mellow. Good for your DH for quitting on the patch! Seems like different methods work for different people. DH used the patch when we lived in NY (there was some organization that would send them out for free). He said it worked on stemming the nicotine cravings but didn't replace inhaling the smoke, so he still wanted to smoke pretty badly. The e-cig was probably the most "effective" thing short of Chantix, since it solved the inhalation thing, but he said it tasted terrible.
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Post by Firebird on Jul 28, 2014 12:47:10 GMT -5
The e-cig was probably the most "effective" thing short of Chantix, since it solved the inhalation thing, but he said it tasted terrible.
Really? I think it tastes great (I always take a pull of DH's on the rare occasions he has one and it tastes like a really good cigar to me).
I'm not a smoker though. Maybe they taste different to smokers.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 28, 2014 14:06:11 GMT -5
I think it can be dangerous - but not for everyone. My (anecdotal) experience is that about half of users love it and think it is the best thing ever, and the other half have crazy mood swings (more than the typical quitting-smoking ones), bad dreams, homicidal urges, etc. SIL and FIL fell into the latter category, while DH and MIL are going on 18-20 months smoke-free. I was concerned about the side effects, and was always bothering DH with questions ("Are you having suicidal thoughts? Do you feel sad or angry? Do you want to kill me right now?" ) but he said that he felt surprisingly good. Every other time he had tried to quit, he'd be in a REALLY shitty mood for a week or so (usually when his mood improved it meant he'd started back again) but on Chantix he was pretty mellow. Good for your DH for quitting on the patch! Seems like different methods work for different people. DH used the patch when we lived in NY (there was some organization that would send them out for free). He said it worked on stemming the nicotine cravings but didn't replace inhaling the smoke, so he still wanted to smoke pretty badly. The e-cig was probably the most "effective" thing short of Chantix, since it solved the inhalation thing, but he said it tasted terrible. I think they probably take a little experimenting to find the right one. I went from being a casual smoker (when drinking) in college, that led into smoking the rest of whatever pack i had left, and that led to having a few per day. I actually was able to quit for months at a time, but would fall back when I was drinking or in vegas or golfing or something. The first couple e-cigs I tried were horrible (Blu, Njoy, and some other brands) before finding a brand that was pretty good. I have no idea how Blu is so popular because they are absolutely disgusting. I've never really done it before, but it seems like most people like the customized ecigs a lot better where you can adjust the vapor level and the flavoring. E-cigs are awesome because you can quit more gradually. You can work down the nicotine levels over time and get to the point were you are consuming hardly any nicotine at all. With regular cigarettes, it just seems very hard to do this because of the way that people smoke. You can't really just take 1 puff...you're kinda committed to the entire cigarette when you've stepped outside.
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Post by midjd on Jul 28, 2014 14:26:39 GMT -5
I think it can be dangerous - but not for everyone. My (anecdotal) experience is that about half of users love it and think it is the best thing ever, and the other half have crazy mood swings (more than the typical quitting-smoking ones), bad dreams, homicidal urges, etc. SIL and FIL fell into the latter category, while DH and MIL are going on 18-20 months smoke-free. I was concerned about the side effects, and was always bothering DH with questions ("Are you having suicidal thoughts? Do you feel sad or angry? Do you want to kill me right now?" ) but he said that he felt surprisingly good. Every other time he had tried to quit, he'd be in a REALLY shitty mood for a week or so (usually when his mood improved it meant he'd started back again) but on Chantix he was pretty mellow. Good for your DH for quitting on the patch! Seems like different methods work for different people. DH used the patch when we lived in NY (there was some organization that would send them out for free). He said it worked on stemming the nicotine cravings but didn't replace inhaling the smoke, so he still wanted to smoke pretty badly. The e-cig was probably the most "effective" thing short of Chantix, since it solved the inhalation thing, but he said it tasted terrible. I think they probably take a little experimenting to find the right one. I went from being a casual smoker (when drinking) in college, that led into smoking the rest of whatever pack i had left, and that led to having a few per day. I actually was able to quit for months at a time, but would fall back when I was drinking or in vegas or golfing or something. The first couple e-cigs I tried were horrible (Blu, Njoy, and some other brands) before finding a brand that was pretty good. I have no idea how Blu is so popular because they are absolutely disgusting. I've never really done it before, but it seems like most people like the customized ecigs a lot better where you can adjust the vapor level and the flavoring. E-cigs are awesome because you can quit more gradually. You can work down the nicotine levels over time and get to the point were you are consuming hardly any nicotine at all. With regular cigarettes, it just seems very hard to do this because of the way that people smoke. You can't really just take 1 puff...you're kinda committed to the entire cigarette when you've stepped outside. Yeah, DH's choice to buy the cheapest possible e-cig from the crappiest gas station in town may have had something to do with the taste. I think it was the NJoy, that name sounds familiar. The customized ones probably are a lot more effective. Before he quit real cigarettes, he was down to one a day - and he did do the one-puff-at-a-time thing. He usually got a few puffs a day. He said the last two or three tasted like ash, but at least he still got the buzz. It was much, much harder for him to quit that last cigarette (he tried a few times before the Chantix) than to cut it down from the 10-15 a day he was smoking in his early 20s.
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Post by nutty on Jul 28, 2014 15:14:37 GMT -5
Pink, if you can do it once you can do it again. Go for it. I started up again last year, need to stop again. I smoke outside but it is a habit that when I am bored I go and have a smoke. Sometimes people need to go cold turkey with a lot of things. I have a tendency to do that, I find it is easier to not have something available.
Wellbutrin worked for me when I had a little spell a few years ago. Wellbutrin is an anti depressant, it made me kind of feel sick and leave a horrible taste in my mouth after smoking. I have heard it might be easier to get insurance to pay for wellbutrin than a cease smoking RX.
In order for me to quite FB and deleted my account, I didn't tell anyone. I text and called those that would care, so far I have only heard from three people that noticed I had deleted my account. That is pretty bad odds considering that FB is about FRIENDING !!!!!!!
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Post by Ryan on Jul 28, 2014 15:38:17 GMT -5
I think they probably take a little experimenting to find the right one. I went from being a casual smoker (when drinking) in college, that led into smoking the rest of whatever pack i had left, and that led to having a few per day. I actually was able to quit for months at a time, but would fall back when I was drinking or in vegas or golfing or something. The first couple e-cigs I tried were horrible (Blu, Njoy, and some other brands) before finding a brand that was pretty good. I have no idea how Blu is so popular because they are absolutely disgusting. I've never really done it before, but it seems like most people like the customized ecigs a lot better where you can adjust the vapor level and the flavoring. E-cigs are awesome because you can quit more gradually. You can work down the nicotine levels over time and get to the point were you are consuming hardly any nicotine at all. With regular cigarettes, it just seems very hard to do this because of the way that people smoke. You can't really just take 1 puff...you're kinda committed to the entire cigarette when you've stepped outside. Yeah, DH's choice to buy the cheapest possible e-cig from the crappiest gas station in town may have had something to do with the taste. I think it was the NJoy, that name sounds familiar. The customized ones probably are a lot more effective. Before he quit real cigarettes, he was down to one a day - and he did do the one-puff-at-a-time thing. He usually got a few puffs a day. He said the last two or three tasted like ash, but at least he still got the buzz. It was much, much harder for him to quit that last cigarette (he tried a few times before the Chantix) than to cut it down from the 10-15 a day he was smoking in his early 20s. Yeah, the entry-level gas station types aren't very good representation and most people probably write it off at that point. If you’re a regular smoker, I think you basically need to get a higher end unit that allows you to dial in the strengths and then experiment with different flavors. The problem with this approach is that most of the good ones have an upfront cost of a couple hundred dollars.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jul 28, 2014 19:52:47 GMT -5
Pink -- No need to apologize. I know you know this, but you need to start doing something else when you are stressed and preferably something healthy. Go for a walk. Unless, you are at home, everywhere else that comes to mind, requires that you go outside to smoke. I often hear people say they eat more when they are trying to quit smoking. Just make it celery and/or carrot sticks. Seriously, we are here for you when you decide to take this journey. And this takes us back to the original topic, it's a perfect example of one of the reasons I stick around instead of leaving. I mentioned something I've struggled with in an unrelated posted and several posters chimed in to encourage me to lay that demon to rest and offered advice and support. I love it! Thank you. My mom used a patch and it worked. To keep her hands busy, she crocheted and crocheted and crocheted some more because she was retired. Don't let it go as long as she did. She had done irreparable damage to her lungs. It ended up being the cause of her death. You can quit now. She had never been able to quit for more than a couple of days until she was hospitalized and had no choice but to not smoke. We will cheer you on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 23:33:20 GMT -5
TheO, thank you for sharing about your Mom. I will let you all know when I make the leap. Last time, people IRL knew what I was doing but only one person was consistently encouraging and holding me accountable (in a supportive way, not bugging or harassing me). She popped into my head as soon as I took the first puff, I felt like I'd let her down. So it does matter when people are supportive of what you're doing.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 29, 2014 1:12:08 GMT -5
I don't understand how people can get upset and leave. I never viewed posting as such a personal experience.
As sad as it may be, the last point Nazgulgirl made applies to me. As someone with few friends, and a long distance family, I can feel pretty lonely and isolated at times, and this board does help a lot sometimes.
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Post by Firebird on Jul 29, 2014 9:51:00 GMT -5
As sad as it may be, the last point Nazgulgirl made applies to me. As someone with few friends, and a long distance family, I can feel pretty lonely and isolated at times, and this board does help a lot sometimes.
That doesn't make it personal for you?
I was in almost your exact same circumstances when I started posting on the board and that's part of the reason it's so special to me. It's always been there for me as kind of a virtual family.
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