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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 9:42:45 GMT -5
It seems like that he is preventing or anticipating another person in my house, well that is not going fly.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 3, 2014 9:51:24 GMT -5
It seems like that he is preventing or anticipating another person in my house, well that is not going fly. Or is he saying that he will not continue to support you once you and/or someone else living in the house are bringing in $50,000 a year? The amount might be questionable but the concept doesn't seem unreasonable.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 9:53:28 GMT -5
Yeah, that is good for him, but not in my best interest. So if I date and live with someone and honestly I dont think I would pick someone that doesnt make that then I get nothing. YAH good deal for him. It could also mean the difference between how much I make. No, not going to accept that.
Well me might get into the divorce wars here but I dont believe that should have any impact, I do understand it though.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 9:55:34 GMT -5
25% support (Salary and bonus) 23 years
I keep house and agree to give 50% of profit at time of sale to be handled by third party
25% of 401k/403B at age 65 to Nicky
Insurance policy with Nicky as Beneficiary
Updated LOL
This is by email
nothing about the 50k thing LOL
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 3, 2014 9:55:58 GMT -5
I don't think if you're living with someone that you should be collecting alimony. That's a very standard clause. He isn't saying you can't date or even spend nights, he is saying not in a way that he is supporting someone else besides you.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 9:56:36 GMT -5
25% of 401k/403B at age 65 to Nicky
Probably need to add ANY and ALL retirement accounts in case he puts his money elsewhere.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 9:58:01 GMT -5
OK I understand his side but I dunno how to explain it, it isnt supporting this other person its for me. HMMMM this might become a contention.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 3, 2014 10:00:02 GMT -5
You won't win on this one. It's a very standard legal clause. If you remarry or cohabitate, no more alimony.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Jul 3, 2014 10:00:57 GMT -5
Personally, I would take this deal and run. You don't need to have a BF living in your house. I have seldom heard of such a good offer. I wouldn't get contentious.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 3, 2014 10:03:36 GMT -5
Who is Nicky? He or she does not need retirement, you do.
You really need to rethink the house, I think it will cost more than you can handle unless you plan on selling it now.
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Post by Opti on Jul 3, 2014 10:04:27 GMT -5
Its pretty simple. Once you make more than $50,000/yr. or live with someone else and your combined income is higher than $50,000/yr. , alimony stops.
Twenty-three years is wickedly generous especially since you aren't 60 plus.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:08:15 GMT -5
I am nicky
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:09:16 GMT -5
I understand that, I just dont think that should have any bearing on it though. Marrying YES but living NO.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:10:15 GMT -5
He has the house.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 3, 2014 10:12:33 GMT -5
I understand that, I just dont think that should have any bearing on it though. Marrying YES but living NO. He does not want to support your boy toy. Perfectly understandable.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 3, 2014 10:12:36 GMT -5
Tough, that's the standard clause in divorce. Unreal. How about you take that to your lawyer and see what they say?
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:14:05 GMT -5
WTH I have no boy toy. I have no one in my life.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:14:45 GMT -5
Ok well I guess he will get to share his enormous wealth with anyone he wants and I will be alone. Cool.
Mind you it's bliss to be by myself right now.
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Post by Opti on Jul 3, 2014 10:14:47 GMT -5
I understand that, I just dont think that should have any bearing on it though. Marrying YES but living NO. Sorry, but that's how it works.
Its to prevent ex-spouses from taking unreasonable advantage of the former spouse paying alimony by living with someone instead of marrying them. Not unlike how many posters feel about SNAP and other benefits.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 3, 2014 10:15:36 GMT -5
So? This is now. He isn't going to pay you for all those years and support someone else as well. You'd be amazed what crawls out of the woodwork to find someone. To support them.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 3, 2014 10:16:34 GMT -5
Ok well I guess he will get to share his enormous wealth with anyone he wants and I will be alone. Cool. Mind you it's bliss to be by myself right now. That's exactly how it goes. It isn't saying you have to be alone, it's saying you aren't going to shack up with someone on his dime.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:16:36 GMT -5
Ok I understand, just saying what has been stated by him.
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Post by Opti on Jul 3, 2014 10:16:55 GMT -5
Ok well I guess he will get to share his enormous wealth with anyone he wants and I will be alone. Cool. Really. You are going to make sure you never make more than $50K/yr. and choose not to find someone if you have a combined income greater than $50K/yr.
Sounds like a silly self-limiting choice to me ...
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 3, 2014 10:18:38 GMT -5
Ok well I guess he will get to share his enormous wealth with anyone he wants and I will be alone. Cool. Mind you it's bliss to be by myself right now. As i said before, take a serious look at the amount but there is no way there isn't going to be this clause in the divorce at some amount.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 3, 2014 10:20:12 GMT -5
I know women who actually collected the alimony they received and in their new marriage their prenup allowed for the fact that they were giving up money from ex and this had to be accounted for in case of divorce. You seriously wouldn't remarry anyone poor, would you?
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 3, 2014 10:22:03 GMT -5
Make sure he has a life insurance policy, payable to you, that covers that alimony. DFs ex has to pay for it but its well worth it. You may not have to but you do need to be notified if he doesn't pay it if you don't pay it. You will want proof yearly that he has paid it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 10:25:23 GMT -5
WTH I have no boy toy. I have no one in my life. Not now, but he's looking in the future. If only marriage would stop alimony that's a pretty good incentive to just cohabitate forever. Personally, I think the deal he's giving you is amazing and I'd take it and run...like FAST. This is coming from someone that will be lucky to get any child support.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:33:38 GMT -5
yes the life ins policy has been discussed. The prenup thing is a good idea for the future.
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Post by nutty on Jul 3, 2014 10:34:26 GMT -5
Yeah I dont seriously I would marry someone with no decent job. Oh and BTW my car died fri night.
Right now my immediate concern is med/dental what happens to the CHap 13 and now acquiring new transport.
He is covering right now my phone, cable, internet and elec. and of course
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 3, 2014 10:43:21 GMT -5
WTH I have no boy toy. I have no one in my life. Not now. But he is looking out for himself, and I don't blame him in the least. He is willing to support you, but is not willing to support someone else. Who knows who you will bring home in 4 years. Don't forget to figure out what you will have to pay for health insurance. Once you are divorced, you will no longer be on his employer provided insurance. One suggestion, Nutty......if this goes through, you need to take advantage on preparing yourself for the workplace. That means educating yourself and finding a job where you can work yourself into a decent position. If his salary drops, your's drops. While he is making enough that he can withstand enough of a drop to his income, 25% does not give you that flexibility. For instance, if he makes $200k, $50k is very easy to live on. But if his salary drops to $100k, then $25k is MUCH Harder to live on. I think that the recipient pays taxes on alimony, you need to consider this too.
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