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Post by swamp on Feb 4, 2014 16:49:18 GMT -5
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 4, 2014 16:53:34 GMT -5
My highschool PE credits were: 1 semester of swimming, 1 of weight lifting, and 1 of bowling! Bowling was definitely the best class ever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 17:19:19 GMT -5
Our public high school only requires 2 trimester of PE, if you're in band you alternate with PE so you only go every other day, but only get half the credit so it drags out the PE requirement twice as long.
K-8 all have PE every semester.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 17:20:00 GMT -5
I kinda get not being able to do a pull-up or not being able to run a mile in under 7 minutes or whatever. But he should be able to do a somersault right? What happens when he attempts to do one? Does he just fall over to one side or something?
On some level, I kinda get where you're coming from. My son is 5 years old and there are some things that he just doesn't "get" like my other 2 younger kids do. He's a picky eater, he is more hesistant with certain activities, and a little more cautious. But we are working with him to kinda move him a little further along.
If your son was 5 or 6, I'd probably say just work with him to address the underlying problem. But with a 12 year old, I'd probably just tell them to do 100 somersaults on the family room floor and let's move on with our lives.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 17:31:42 GMT -5
I kinda get not being able to do a pull-up or not being able to run a mile in under 7 minutes or whatever. But he should be able to do a somersault right? What happens when he attempts to do one? Does he just fall over to one side or something? On some level, I kinda get where you're coming from. My son is 5 years old and there are some things that he just doesn't "get" like my other 2 younger kids do. He's a picky eater, he is more hesistant with certain activities, and a little more cautious. But we are working with him to kinda move him a little further along. If your son was 5 or 6, I'd probably say just work with him to address the underlying problem. But with a 12 year old, I'd probably just tell them to do 100 somersaults on the family room floor and let's move on with our lives. LOL A hundred? If he could do one I'd buy him a new PS4!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 17:41:02 GMT -5
Explained the situation to his therapist today and he doesn't like the way they are dealing with things either, or that nobody called me or replied to my email. He thinks there are ways to deal with this that don't draw attention to him. Anyhow, I think that was going to be the topic of their session, but I can't talk to DS about it until later tonight as I had to go back to work to make up the time I missed.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Feb 4, 2014 17:46:41 GMT -5
I'm really tempted to attempt a somersault right now. Maybe after some wine.
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Post by Abby Normal on Feb 4, 2014 18:16:57 GMT -5
Thankfully my current job doesn't require me to skip or do somersaults. My current job only requires me to sit on my ass. They don't cover that in Phys Ed- so I guess I'm over qualified.
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Post by lynnerself on Feb 4, 2014 18:40:40 GMT -5
I like this guy's tutorial.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 4, 2014 19:07:12 GMT -5
Explained the situation to his therapist today and he doesn't like the way they are dealing with things either, or that nobody called me or replied to my email. He thinks there are ways to deal with this that don't draw attention to him. Anyhow, I think that was going to be the topic of their session, but I can't talk to DS about it until later tonight as I had to go back to work to make up the time I missed. Outstanding! It's really fortunate you had an appointment set up with the therapist while this situation is fresh. Now, you've got back-up for changing the way this is being handled. I'll be anxious to hear what your DS has to say and how he feels after talking to the therapist.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 4, 2014 19:26:40 GMT -5
Since I'm groping my way through learning SQL, I've been using the Web as a resource. Are there YouTube vidoes on somersaults? Hey, they exist for everything else! If there are any geared to adults, your son may find one that works for him, since adults are less flexible and usually not as fearless as little kids. Maybe without the pressure of an SOB PE teacher standing over him and pressuring him he'll learn on his own. ^that is an excellent idea.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Feb 4, 2014 19:37:34 GMT -5
A PE teacher willing to stay after school for 2 hours to help one kid work on a somersault sounds like a pretty awesome teacher to me. Maybe he is an asshole, but he is an asshole that is putting in some serious extra time with the kid. That's a very optimistic way to think about it. I had a completely opposite thought
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Post by JustLurkin on Feb 4, 2014 20:11:17 GMT -5
Ewwwww. PE!
I sucked at anything team related, and was glad I put it off long enough in high school that they started offering weight training to females...no I'm not 87! Amazing the things they "let" females do. Prior to that, weight training was basically a way for the football team to sneak an extra practice in. I was the 2nd female at my school to finish the class--only because I took it in the afternoon instead of the morning. I never took the time to find out who the other female was, but they used to complain because she wouldn't do anything that required sweat. Hahahaha. We basically ran 5 miles and hit the gym. The coach would have me start with everyone, and keep running until everyone finished--remember it was the football team, the class could be more than half over before the largest team member made it five miles. I loved that class. Badminton, volleyball, bowling...there was something else I've totally blocked...ecccck. The other alternative was dance, which is basically for people who knew what they doing--like the cheerleaders and pom squad.
I could do a cartwheel, but never got the hang of a round-off. I used to be able to do a backflip off the side of a pool, then developed a fear of cracking my head open. Could jump rope, but not double-dutch. Tumbling is not on my resume, but it's evaluation time, I'm going to find a way to slip in it...I'm in a large office, lemme see if my manager actually reads 75 self-evaluations!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 21:13:04 GMT -5
Well, Mother/son somersault training session was an epic fail. I was feeling good about it because he came out of his session with his counselor acting much less anxious about the upcoming unit, but when I said lets practice them for a bit, he tensed all up and it wasn't long before it all fell apart and he was crying and making excuse after excuse. He said the guy in the video wasn't fat like him so I googled "fat guy doing somersault" and found all kinds of REALLY big guys doing tumbling somersaults and flips, but he told me that just made him feel worse that he couldn't do one. I would like to add that he didn't try once. Not once. The best I could do was get him into the initial position in the video, but all he would do was ramble on about how much it was going to hurt his neck. Twenty minutes of this and I said "fine, go to bed". I called his Dad and had him talk to him, because frankly, I was a bit perturbed that he wouldn't even try.
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Post by swamp on Feb 4, 2014 21:29:09 GMT -5
Have him watch Blues Brothers. John Belushi was fat but could move. Also watch old SNL skits with chris Farley. Another fat guy who could move.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 4, 2014 21:59:04 GMT -5
Is he overweight for medical reasons? It's very hard for larger kids to do just about anything. I had 3 kindergartners who outweighed me and they were the normal ages, 5 and 6. Weighed around 120 average. My dept head thought I had a typo. Nope, just large boys. But it was very hard on me to watch them try to do things the other kids could do, like run and play. Faces were beat red and they always looked like they were going to stroke out.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 4, 2014 22:00:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 22:18:00 GMT -5
A PE teacher willing to stay after school for 2 hours to help one kid work on a somersault sounds like a pretty awesome teacher to me. Maybe he is an asshole, but he is an asshole that is putting in some serious extra time with the kid. That's a very optimistic way to think about it. I had a completely opposite thought yea. Apparently I am the only one who thinks the PE teacher isn't there to get the awkward kid to fondle his balls.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 22:18:40 GMT -5
Is he overweight for medical reasons? It's very hard for larger kids to do just about anything. I had 3 kindergartners who outweighed me and they were the normal ages, 5 and 6. Weighed around 120 average. My dept head thought I had a typo. Nope, just large boys. But it was very hard on me to watch them try to do things the other kids could do, like run and play. Faces were beat red and they always looked like they were going to stroke out. I'm thinking/hoping it's just some weird growth stage. My brother used to do this. He'd get all chunky then grow 4 inches in a year and stretch out. The pediatrician doesn't seem overly concerned. He doesn't say he should lose weight, just that we should shoot for not gaining. It's probably only been the past 2-3 years that he's bulked up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 22:20:56 GMT -5
I'll probably delete this in a bit, but this is him last August. I think he's put on some more gut since then, but he's also just big. Thick arms and legs.
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Post by Malarky on Feb 4, 2014 22:35:34 GMT -5
MPL,
I'm a bit shorter than your son and weigh just a little bit less. I CANNOT do a somersault without seriously injuring myself. I'm just not flexible enough. It hurts my head, my neck, my back and my legs. And that's just squatting down and tucking my chin to my chest.
I believe it's a matter of flexibility, something which I seriously lack at this point in my life. Somersaults are something I used to be able to do easily, but not so much with this new, unimproved body I'm sporting. Ten years ago, I was teaching fledgling cheerleaders how to do somersaults, cartwheels and roundoffs by example. Now I can only do it by trying to talk them through it.
So I can absolutely understand where your son is coming from. It sucks that the PE teacher won't just let it go. In the grand scheme of life, it isn't a necessary skill.
ETA: I just saw the pic you posted, what a cutie.
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Post by taz157 on Feb 4, 2014 22:38:01 GMT -5
MPL - He's a cutie! He doesn't look big to me but I can also do a somersault. I hope you find something that works and it clicks for him or they let it go. FWIW, I did do a couple years of gymnastics when I was a kid so I'm not the best to ask. If I think about it, I'll ask my DH if he could do one as a kid as he was a little chubby then.
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Post by giramomma on Feb 4, 2014 22:42:06 GMT -5
I'm thinking/hoping it's just some weird growth stage. My brother used to do this. He'd get all chunky then grow 4 inches in a year and stretch out. The pediatrician doesn't seem overly concerned. He doesn't say he should lose weight, just that we should shoot for not gaining. It's probably only been the past 2-3 years that he's bulked up. There was a boy in my husband's scout troop that did this. Pudged out (way more than your DS) and then grow. Kid ended up skinny as a rail in HS. Have you tried flexibility exercises or taking your son to a PT or OT? Can you get him to do yoga or something that would promote flexibility? Could you work on his flexibility as part of the Personal Fitness Merit Badge? And, yes, he is cute
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 22:54:17 GMT -5
Have you tried flexibility exercises or taking your son to a PT or OT? Can you get him to do yoga or something that would promote flexibility? Could you work on his flexibility as part of the Personal Fitness Merit Badge? No. Haven't tried anything like that. I think he does some yoga on the Wii Fit, but I'm not sure if that counts. I know nothing about it myself. His grandparents are big into yoga now that they retired. Maybe I'll send him to stay with them for awhile.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Feb 4, 2014 22:59:45 GMT -5
Awww, he is adorable! He doesn't look chubby to me. FYI: I just did a somersault. I didn't do the stand up part at the end because, swear to God, the room was spinning. But I had a glass or two of wine. And I think I hurt my wrist which is ironic since I thought for sure I'd not do it straight and smack my foot into some furniture. And I may be in traction tomorrow. But Yay!! I can still do one!
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Post by Malarky on Feb 4, 2014 23:03:27 GMT -5
I tried too, POM. That's how I know I can't do it anymore and that I'm completely inflexible.
I'll try it again after a couple of drinks. NOT.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 23:20:03 GMT -5
Awww, he is adorable! He doesn't look chubby to me. FYI: I just did a somersault. I didn't do the stand up part at the end because, swear to God, the room was spinning. But I had a glass or two of wine. And I think I hurt my wrist which is ironic since I thought for sure I'd not do it straight and smack my foot into some furniture. And I may be in traction tomorrow. But Yay!! I can still do one! That picture isn't the best. He definitely has some belly rolls going on, but with a shirt on he looks pretty balanced. Well, everyone else was trying, so I just did a somersault and now I feel like puking.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Feb 4, 2014 23:36:20 GMT -5
That's a very optimistic way to think about it. I had a completely opposite thought yea. Apparently I am the only one who thinks the PE teacher isn't there to get the awkward kid to fondle his balls. no, you are not the only one. I wasn't thinking that, i was thinking that I would be concern if my kid's teacher was THAT invested in one exercise of ONE kid. We are not talking about training for the Olympics here. It's a gym class in middle school. So, i would be wondering about his mental state and whether he should be getting hobbies or something
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Post by Apple on Feb 5, 2014 0:09:09 GMT -5
I agree, he's a cutie!
Outside of practicing on a hill, I've got nothing. Hope the teacher will work with you this year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 6:57:32 GMT -5
yea. Apparently I am the only one who thinks the PE teacher isn't there to get the awkward kid to fondle his balls. no, you are not the only one. I wasn't thinking that, i was thinking that I would be concern if my kid's teacher was THAT invested in one exercise of ONE kid. We are not talking about training for the Olympics here. It's a gym class in middle school. So, i would be wondering about his mental state and whether he should be getting hobbies or something If his math teacher was tutoring him after school because he couldn't do arithmetic would you feel like the teacher should get a hobby?
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