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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 12:57:49 GMT -5
Ahhh....got it.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 14, 2013 13:24:38 GMT -5
This is where taking food home was first mentioned, I think. Maybe what loony means is that the store is doing so well that she can afford to spend $300/wk on food and she just chooses to BUY the food from her store, and that's why she keeps saying she paid for it. Is that right loony? Please say "yes"! Ok, dear, just for you... I do not play 'store' with my husband, I do not wait in line to pay for the food I take home BUT I do not take ANY cash from my register to use for my personal needs. Let's say I had earned $500 cash. I will not take a penny from it and use it for anything but business needs! So if I had time I could take my cash, pay me $100 and pay for the food. Instead I am taking everything to the bank and paying me salary from there. ...time to go see if lobster tails are on sale! And that is also right: she can afford to spend $300/wk on food and she just chooses to BUY the food from her store... it is just convenience. No time for supermarkets...So you pay for the food you bring home? As in - do you physically pay for the food yourself? I am not asking if the business paid for the food, as obviously you did or you wouldn't have it. I am asking if you pay from your personal account to the business for this food. Does the business get $15K in revenue from you purchasing the food?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 13:27:15 GMT -5
After 4 years of being in business Loony somehow has $14million in inventory because she never wrote off her own theft. Share holders will not be happy when the get the news.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Nov 14, 2013 13:32:23 GMT -5
After 4 years of being in business Loony somehow has $14million in inventory because she never wrote off her own theft. Share holders will not be happy when the get the news. So...that's how much in Amish chicken currency?
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Nov 14, 2013 13:34:17 GMT -5
No, Archie, not all of it was theft. Some was trash, and some of it were "gifts" to other people. It's not stealing from a business to give the products away as gifts without properly accounting for them. Sheesh.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Nov 14, 2013 13:55:08 GMT -5
No, Archie, not all of it was theft. Some was trash, and some of it were "gifts" to other people. It's not stealing from a business to give the products away as gifts without properly accounting for them. Sheesh. Y'know, I was contemplating this issue this morning. It occurs to me that the employee who was stealing from Looney a while back may have been affected by her la-de-da attitude about her inventory. I mean, the kid sees her/hubby loading up hundreds of dollars of inventory and carting it home all the time without being concerned about the value of it or keeping track of inventory. He sees them giving away undeclared 'gifts' of inventory to customers on a regular basis. No one seems to track anything all around him. And all the while, he's thinking that (a) no one is paying attention to anything here, so no one will know if he takes stuff too, and (b) if the owner's money and inventory mean so little to them, why shouldn't he take some too? I wonder if the situation was exacerbated by employees seeing an owner who doesn't care about rules and a lot of inventory being shuffled around with no one concerned? It's a good reminder to set the right example for your employees if you want them to care about things.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Nov 14, 2013 13:59:29 GMT -5
No, Archie, not all of it was theft. Some was trash, and some of it were "gifts" to other people. It's not stealing from a business to give the products away as gifts without properly accounting for them. Sheesh. Y'know, I was contemplating this issue this morning. It occurs to me that the employee who was stealing from Looney a while back may have been affected by her la-de-da attitude about her inventory. I mean, the kid sees her/hubby loading up hundreds of dollars of inventory and carting it home all the time without being concerned about the value of it or keeping track of inventory. He sees them giving away undeclared 'gifts' of inventory to customers on a regular basis. No one seems to track anything all around him. And all the while, he's thinking that (a) no one is paying attention to anything here, so no one will know if he takes stuff too, and (b) if the owner's money and inventory mean so little to them, why shouldn't he take some too? I wonder if the situation was exacerbated by employees seeing an owner who doesn't care about rules and a lot of inventory being shuffled around with no one concerned? It's a good reminder to set the right example for your employees if you want them to care about things. Pffft. No way that's the problem. Loony paid for all her groceries, remember? With some of her very own profit. She can prove it, somewhere in that shoebox of paper receipts...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 15:18:33 GMT -5
The plans are being discontinued because they don't meet the minimum requirements, correct? I'll never understand why people are clinging to sub-par plans... Two of my family members just received cancellation notices and they liked their plans just fine. They are NOT sub-par plans and were happy with them.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 14, 2013 15:28:52 GMT -5
Subpar is code for perfect for young healthy people. I don't need free preventative visits, I don't need cheap copays. My ideal health insurance would cost very little, because I probably won't be using it much, and doesn't cover a penny of the first $3k in medical costs (maybe a bit higher, whatever will keep my premium down). I pay out of pocket for routine stuff, and cover the first chunk of any illness, but the insurance is there if I have a true emergency. That's how insurance is supposed to work. It's there for catastrophic losses, and problems, not for routine everyday crap.
That's how car insurance works, it's how rental insurance works, it's how disaster insurance works, it's how business insurance works, it's how homeowner's insurance works. Health insurance is the only category that we can't get real insurance anymore. We're paying for health coverage, with a bunch of freebies and mandatory coverage stuff that quite a few of us don't actually want or need, and those freebies drive the premiums up.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 14, 2013 16:03:15 GMT -5
They still offer catastrophic plans for the young healthy people. It doesn't include a lot of what is covered by the other plans. Although I think they all still include some minimal preventative stuff.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 14, 2013 16:04:53 GMT -5
I didn't see a catastrophic plan on my state exchange. They all looked pretty comprehensive to me, and the monthly premiums weren't cheap.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 14, 2013 16:08:47 GMT -5
Interesting, I wonder if some exchanges aren't offering them. Technically they are allowed to have them. They are supposed to be limited to people under 30 & the poor. Not sure why it is ok if a poor person buys catastrophic, but not a rich person though
ETA - Just looked and they are available on our exchange.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 16:12:09 GMT -5
No, Archie, not all of it was theft. Some was trash, and some of it were "gifts" to other people. It's not stealing from a business to give the products away as gifts without properly accounting for them. Sheesh. Y'know, I was contemplating this issue this morning. It occurs to me that the employee who was stealing from Looney a while back may have been affected by her la-de-da attitude about her inventory. I mean, the kid sees her/hubby loading up hundreds of dollars of inventory and carting it home all the time without being concerned about the value of it or keeping track of inventory. He sees them giving away undeclared 'gifts' of inventory to customers on a regular basis. No one seems to track anything all around him. And all the while, he's thinking that (a) no one is paying attention to anything here, so no one will know if he takes stuff too, and (b) if the owner's money and inventory mean so little to them, why shouldn't he take some too? I wonder if the situation was exacerbated by employees seeing an owner who doesn't care about rules and a lot of inventory being shuffled around with no one concerned? It's a good reminder to set the right example for your employees if you want them to care about things. Yes. the control environment is a very important aspect of having strong controls. My brother used to work at a convenience store and the owners used to take money out of the register and drink in the back of the store all day. Guess what all of the employees did, the manager being the worst? They stole from the friggen place.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 16:12:56 GMT -5
I didn't see a catastrophic plan on my state exchange. They all looked pretty comprehensive to me, and the monthly premiums weren't cheap. I didn't think catastrophic plans were under Obamacare.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 14, 2013 16:13:09 GMT -5
That explains it then. I'm poor, but 31.
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Post by Angel! on Nov 14, 2013 16:17:48 GMT -5
That explains it then. I'm poor, but 31. I should have said under 30 and/or poor. But, I'm not sure how poor one has to be to qualify for them. I don't know the details on that. ETA - Ok, I found this: So apparently you have to be poor enough to not even meet the mandate & then you can buy catastrophic. Which is sort of stupid because catastrophic isn't eligible for tax credits. So someone that poor likely is better off getting a subsidized bronze plan.
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Post by milee on Nov 14, 2013 16:40:38 GMT -5
Subpar is code for perfect for young healthy people. I don't need free preventative visits, I don't need cheap copays. My ideal health insurance would cost very little, because I probably won't be using it much, and doesn't cover a penny of the first $3k in medical costs (maybe a bit higher, whatever will keep my premium down). I pay out of pocket for routine stuff, and cover the first chunk of any illness, but the insurance is there if I have a true emergency. That's how insurance is supposed to work. It's there for catastrophic losses, and problems, not for routine everyday crap. That's how car insurance works, it's how rental insurance works, it's how disaster insurance works, it's how business insurance works, it's how homeowner's insurance works. Health insurance is the only category that we can't get real insurance anymore. We're paying for health coverage, with a bunch of freebies and mandatory coverage stuff that quite a few of us don't actually want or need, and those freebies drive the premiums up. This describes my current plan almost exactly except my deductible is $6k - which I can comfortably afford. I pay out of pocket for routine stuff, but if I ever get cancer or have a huge emergency, insurance would kick in to make sure I'm not BK. It's not a "sub-par" plan and over the years have saved me thousands of dollars compared to buying insurance I neither want nor need.
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Post by tloonya on Nov 18, 2013 15:30:09 GMT -5
Have I just quoted myself? What stage of narcissism it THAT? Well, to be seriousI want to ask if anyone had heard Pres (Oh'bummer!) to say anything like people with insurance policies that are being canceled because they do not meet Obamacare's standards will be allowed to renew them
I don't know if it was said but do you see it as I see it...if that is the case - does it mean that if everyone stayed where they are right now - Obamacare would be just a...waste of time? I mean past times when everyone was voting for and against and all these meetings and traveling and taxpayers money spent and all? Oh' Bummer!
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Post by Angel! on Nov 18, 2013 15:36:57 GMT -5
Obama said they are going to allow the plans for one more year even if they don't meet the new law. These people are only actually going to get to keep their plans if their state allows the insurers to keep selling the plan & the insurer decides to keep offering the plan. How many will actually get to keep their plan as a result of the change is yet to be seen.
And no, that doesn't make Obamacare a waste of time because a lot of people that didn't have insurance before are now getting to sign up.
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