Gun culture has to go- enough!

[zibazinski]

Wow, and this had something to do with my post, how?

[billisonboard]

Nov 7, 2013 8:40:56 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Wow, and this had something to do with my post, how?

And your post had something to do with this thread, how?

[zibazinski]

Are you always this way or just when you don't make your point?

[billisonboard]

Nov 7, 2013 10:53:43 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Are you always this way or just when you don't make your point?

Am I the "you" in this question?

[zibazinski]

Actually, yes. So you got noticed finally. Happy now?

[Green Eyed Lady]

Seasonal Affect Disorder. 

[billisonboard]

Nov 7, 2013 11:13:02 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Actually, yes. So you got noticed finally. Happy now?

I was just lost as to how you went from gun culture to poverty. So I posted a which means to me "where did this come from".

[mmhmm]

Ladies and gentlemen, let's stop with the barbed posts, eh?  Let's also stop with the amateur psychological diagnoses.  Thanks.  -  mmhmm, Administrator

[Value Buy]

Nov 7, 2013 11:51:51 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Ladies and gentlemen, let's stop with the barbed posts, eh?  Let's also stop with the amateur psychological diagnoses.  Thanks.  -  mmhmm, Administrator

This begs the question:
How about starting the "psychological world warcraft of politics" message board?
P&M is so old school  

[mmhmm]

ROFL, VB!  Sometimes, it almost seems like that's where we're posting!  Ack!  An ork!  A Libertarian ork! 

[Green Eyed Lady]

As a matter of fact, that wasn't an amateur psychiatric diagnosis....unless, for some reason, you think my shrink is an amateur.  There ARE other really really real medical professionals in this world!

[mmhmm]

It was fine, if you were diagnosing (or using your shrink's diagnosis) for yourself, GEL.  It's not fine when you're diagnosing other people you don't even know (and neither does your shrink).  Oh, and it's Seasonal Affective Disorder.

[Green Eyed Lady]

That's not what my shrink calls it, but I'm sure you are right and he has no clue what he's talking about.  Or she....cause they tag team me.  They are quite busy.  Perhaps they take shortcuts.  And yes.  My post was a bit unclear.  I was reflecting on why several people on this board, in the last few days, are just aching to jump on somebody about something - me included.  And SAD is probably to blame for me.   No sun here for days.

[Tennesseer]

Come visit me Green Eyed Lady .  It is nice and sunny today (a bit cool) but for the next 7 plus days it will be sunny and in the sixties. 

I cannot help you though through the months of December, January and February.  Cloudy most of the days.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Nov 7, 2013 14:11:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Come visit me Green Eyed Lady .  It is nice and sunny today (a bit cool) but for the next 7 plus days it will be sunny and in the sixties. 

I cannot help you though through the months of December, January and February.  Cloudy most of the days.

I'll be right there.  I'll make dinner as payment for sunshine!

[Tennesseer]

Nov 7, 2013 14:15:09 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Nov 7, 2013 14:11:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Come visit me Green Eyed Lady .  It is nice and sunny today (a bit cool) but for the next 7 plus days it will be sunny and in the sixties. 

I cannot help you though through the months of December, January and February.  Cloudy most of the days.

I'll be right there.  I'll make dinner as payment for sunshine!

It may reach 60 today but I will have to run errands later this afternoon and I will still wear shorts and sandals (with a jacket of course (it's chilly out for goodness sake!)). I have a policy of no long pants until December 1 (unless it is going out to dinner or other evening event).

My no long pants policy used to be until November 1 but with extreme global warming growing each and every day and month, I have now moved the long pants date to December 1. 

[Green Eyed Lady]

60 is great!  It's not too cold here either - just rainy and gloomy.  Typical November weather.  I do wear long pants after 10/1 or so because my legs look pasty as it's past the tanning season.  I don't want to blind anyone with their stark white brilliance.

[kent]

Nov 7, 2013 14:15:09 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Nov 7, 2013 14:11:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Come visit me Green Eyed Lady .  It is nice and sunny today (a bit cool) but for the next 7 plus days it will be sunny and in the sixties. 

I cannot help you though through the months of December, January and February.  Cloudy most of the days.

I'll be right there.  I'll make dinner as payment for sunshine!

And I'll do the dishes

[Green Eyed Lady]

Deal!  (I suppose we have to have Tenn's ok since it is his home.)

[kent]

Nov 7, 2013 15:14:22 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Deal!  (I suppose we have to have Tenn's ok since it is his home.)

Nah.  Tenn is a good soul and will welcome us with open arms no matter what.

[Opti]

"We discuss it 'round here all the time. We get bored with discussing the latest book we read, what politicians we currently hate, and how long Kathy was in labor with her latest, the best way to discipline little Johnny when he won't eat his spinach, whether or not abortion should be legal, whether or not Obama was born in the US, and who gets offended if we pray before our meal. The subject just automatically turns to guns. "

Where you live and who your circle of friends are is going to influence a lot of things.
I live in suburbia and since I have no friends that I know are deer hunters I'd be surprised
if even 1 in 10 said they had a gun. Likewise, I doubt we'd discuss many of the topics mentioned above even if my crowd tends to read a lot.

If I was in a rural area where people hunt deer, ducks, etc. with guns I'd expect a
different answer on the gun question. Since land keeps getting more developed over time
in the US, dropping numbers of gun ownership makes sense to me.

[zibazinski]

I don't shoot animals-ever. People? Only if they need it!

[Tennesseer]

Nov 7, 2013 15:34:30 GMT -5 kent said:

Nov 7, 2013 15:14:22 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Deal!  (I suppose we have to have Tenn's ok since it is his home.)

Nah.  Tenn is a good soul and will welcome us with open arms no matter what.

You are all welcome.  

[Deleted]

Nov 7, 2013 14:20:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 7, 2013 14:15:09 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

I'll be right there.  I'll make dinner as payment for sunshine!

It may reach 60 today but I will have to run errands later this afternoon and I will still wear shorts and sandals (with a jacket of course (it's chilly out for goodness sake!)). I have a policy of no long pants until December 1 (unless it is going out to dinner or other evening event).

My no long pants policy used to be until November 1 but with extreme global warming growing each and every day and month, I have now moved the long pants date to December 1. 

Arctic oscillation has started going negative, good luck with those shorts till December 1st.

[the flying reindeer]

Nov 8, 2013 11:51:12 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Nov 7, 2013 14:20:16 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It may reach 60 today but I will have to run errands later this afternoon and I will still wear shorts and sandals (with a jacket of course (it's chilly out for goodness sake!)). I have a policy of no long pants until December 1 (unless it is going out to dinner or other evening event).

My no long pants policy used to be until November 1 but with extreme global warming growing each and every day and month, I have now moved the long pants date to December 1. 

Arctic oscillation has started going negative, good luck with those shorts till December 1st.

The temp here in central New York was 25F with snow on the ground this a.m. It has now risen to a mighty 32F. I'd say long pants were defintely the style of the day. Covered by a nice warm winter coat.

[frankq]

Nov 6, 2013 9:21:26 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Nov 6, 2013 9:07:48 GMT -5 Shooby said:

  So, are you going to talk them out of it?

Personally, I think it is a matter of patience.

The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.

The gun ownership rate has fallen across a broad cross section of households since the early 1970s, according to data from the General Social Survey, a public opinion survey conducted every two years that asks a sample of American adults if they have guns at home, among other questions.

The rate has dropped in cities large and small, in suburbs and rural areas and in all regions of the country. It has fallen among households with children, and among those without. It has declined for households that say they are very happy, and for those that say they are not. It is down among churchgoers and those who never sit in pews.

The household gun ownership rate has fallen from an average of 50 percent in the 1970s to 49 percent in the 1980s, 43 percent in the 1990s and 35 percent in the 2000s, according to the survey data, analyzed by The New York Times. www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/rate-of-gun-ownership-is-down-survey-shows.html?_r=0

Oh.........I don't know about that......
www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/01/11/179551/us-gun-sales-hit-a-record-high.html

Personally, I think many people are keeping their owning of weapons to themselves these days...
www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/04/us-usa-bloomberg-guns-numbers-idUSTRE8130BK20120204

From a Forbes article: www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2012/08/23/what-the-left-wont-tell-you-about-the-boom-in-u-s-gun-sales/
But the thing is the surge is gun sales didn’t begin in 2008. Over the last 10 years (from 2002 to 2011) there has been a 54.1 percent rise in the number of NICS checks and the increase hasn’t all taken place since 2008. In 2005 there were 8,952,945 NICS checks. In 2006 the number topped 10 million. In 2007 NICS checks pushed passed 11 million. In 2008 NICS checks passed 12 million, and then hit the 14 million mark in 2009. They increased slightly (4 percent) through 2011.

[billisonboard]

There is no conflict between the percentage of households that have guns decreasing while the number of guns sold increases.  Once a household has a gun, adding a second or third or hundredth does not increase the percentage of homes that have them.

[Deleted]

Nov 13, 2013 23:53:28 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

There is no conflict between the percentage of households that have guns decreasing while the number of guns sold increases.  Once a household has a gun, adding a second or third or hundredth does not increase the percentage of homes that have them.

 Guns are like tattoos that way, aren't they?
 Some people just goes nuts with them. In such cases "one is too many, and a hundred are not enough".

[zibazinski]

No, not really. Unlike guns, tattoos are forever. But, yes, we started with two and now we have four and I want to add two more.