Gun culture has to go- enough!

[Virgil Showlion]

I don't think the shot man should have been charged. The 70-year-old jilted husband has had his life ruined enough. I'd let him off with a "don't do it again".

[Tennesseer]

Oct 24, 2013 10:32:53 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I don't think the shot man should have been charged. The 70-year-old jilted husband has had his life ruined enough. I'd let him off with a "don't do it again".

Cuckhold.

[billisonboard]

Oct 24, 2013 10:50:07 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 24, 2013 10:32:53 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I don't think the shot man should have been charged. The 70-year-old jilted husband has had his life ruined enough. I'd let him off with a "don't do it again".

Cuckhold.

I think it was the fact she wasn't taking hold of his that sent him for his shotgun.

cockold is the word I think you wanted

[Tennesseer]

Oct 24, 2013 13:15:28 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 24, 2013 10:50:07 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Cuckhold.

I think it was the fact she wasn't taking hold of his that sent him for his shotgun.

cockold is the word I think you wanted

Both.  

[billisonboard]

Oct 24, 2013 13:22:19 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 24, 2013 13:15:28 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I think it was the fact she wasn't taking hold of his that sent him for his shotgun.

cockold is the word I think you wanted

Both.  

Menage-a-trois?

[EVT1]

Oct 24, 2013 10:22:58 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Where the heck did this 11-year-old get this stuff?  Where are the parents?

Boy, 11, brought 400 rounds of ammo, handgun, knives to school: cops

Boy, 11, brought 400 rounds of ammo, handgun, knives to school: cops

Well obviously we need to let the other 11-year-olds arm themselves.  The NRA is slacking- where is Eddie Eagle to explain to the children that the only way to stop a bad kid with a gun is for a good kid to have a gun? 

[Deleted]

Oct 21, 2013 17:17:41 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

I did say gun's & ammo was a good magazine and I am not into banning even the dumb ones- but it would be nice if we could find a way to eliminate this freakish obsession some people have.

I guess there are two views and two types of people- some think an armed society is a polite society and others think having guns everywhere is a recipe for trouble- and they can both be right- which brings us to the other two types of people that carry guns (other than cops and criminals)- those that do so discretely and those idiots that consider them part of their douchebag outfit and wear them around to make sure everyone sees they have one.  My guess is the latter is a Combat Handgun type of person.

I have to agree. We should find a way to eliminate this freakish obsession some people have.

[Deleted]

Oct 24, 2013 19:50:12 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Oct 24, 2013 10:22:58 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Where the heck did this 11-year-old get this stuff?  Where are the parents?

Boy, 11, brought 400 rounds of ammo, handgun, knives to school: cops

Boy, 11, brought 400 rounds of ammo, handgun, knives to school: cops

Well obviously we need to let the other 11-year-olds arm themselves.  The NRA is slacking- where is Eddie Eagle to explain to the children that the only way to stop a bad kid with a gun is for a good kid to have a gun? 

The Eddie Eagle gun safety program from the NRA doesn't have that in it's curriculum. Can you keep it factual with the NRA bashing ?

[AGB]

Oct 25, 2013 13:30:00 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Oct 21, 2013 17:17:41 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

I did say gun's & ammo was a good magazine and I am not into banning even the dumb ones- but it would be nice if we could find a way to eliminate this freakish obsession some people have.

I guess there are two views and two types of people- some think an armed society is a polite society and others think having guns everywhere is a recipe for trouble- and they can both be right- which brings us to the other two types of people that carry guns (other than cops and criminals)- those that do so discretely and those idiots that consider them part of their douchebag outfit and wear them around to make sure everyone sees they have one.  My guess is the latter is a Combat Handgun type of person.

I have to agree. We should find a way to eliminate this freakish obsession some people have.

I prefer the term "dedication", thank you very much.

[EVT1]

However you look at it I thought at least there would be a consensus that open carry is about the dumbest thing you can do.  My whole point was over this idiot that thinks a gun is a fashion item or worse (and more likely) he wants to show the world he is armed and a real man

My prediction- ask 10 people that teach defensive handgun or other tactical courses and all 10 are going to say open carry is a bad idea.

There are certain times and locations where it is ok, but in a large city strolling into Wal-Mart with a gun hanging from your belt or hanging out of your pocket you should have your permit revoked.

[AGB]

Oct 25, 2013 20:21:47 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

However you look at it I thought at least there would be a consensus that open carry is about the dumbest thing you can do.  My whole point was over this idiot that thinks a gun is a fashion item or worse (and more likely) he wants to show the world he is armed and a real man

My prediction- ask 10 people that teach defensive handgun or other tactical courses and all 10 are going to say open carry is a bad idea.

There are certain times and locations where it is ok, but in a large city strolling into Wal-Mart with a gun hanging from your belt or hanging out of your pocket you should have your permit revoked.

I've never wanted to show the world that I'm a "real man".   Granted, I live in a small town, but you see open carry here, and it's not really high on my list of things to freak out about.

My state requires no permit or anything to open carry, so there is nothing to revoke. We do require a permit for concealed carry, but either way, it is a personal choice. I've done both; I prefer concealed carry myself, but it's not always an easy task, even with a compact.

LEOs and military seem to believe in open carry, so I'm guessing there is something somewhere supporting the thought that it could possibly be a good idea.

[EVT1]

Small towns are different and I am sure you don't want to be a man- just noticed the symbol sorry.

There are some states that do not allow concealed carry and open carry is the only option they have- ok I get that.

I disagree with your assertion that LEO and military support open carry.  If anything LEO's are probably tired of dealing with it- since, depending on the location, they are going to have to constantly field calls of 'man with gun'.  Worse, we have a small group of assholes that go out armed to intentionally provoke police so they can record the encounters and yap about their rights. 

LEO's and military are in uniform, they open carry, and they also use retention holsters, and are also trained in situational awareness.  They are not some dickhole wearing shorts and flip-flops in a restaurant, store, etc. with their gun jammed in a pocket or hanging from some button flap holster.  Never a good idea- especially tactically- why in the hell would anyone want to advertise they are carrying a gun unless they are retarded (certain towns and locations excepted)?

[AGB]

Oct 25, 2013 21:10:10 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Small towns are different and I am sure you don't want to be a man- just noticed the symbol sorry.

Ha, no sorries... it's not the first time on this board lol. I will probably overanalyze why people continue to think I'm a dude, but that is my problem.

There are some states that do not allow concealed carry and open carry is the only option they have- ok I get that.

I disagree with your assertion that LEO and military support open carry.  If anything LEO's are probably tired of dealing with it- since, depending on the location, they are going to have to constantly field calls of 'man with gun'.  Worse, we have a small group of assholes that go out armed to intentionally provoke police so they can record the encounters and yap about their rights. 

Bad wording on my part. I meant that there is a reason they open carry, if it was always a bad idea, they would carry concealed. I support open carry, but seen the groups you mention and they make me cringe, just like those who suggest people should call police on all open carriers (not on here, general comment). These men and women have a job to do, let them do it without being a distraction that can divert them from an actual emergency. That goes for both sides.

LEO's and military are in uniform, they open carry, and they also use retention holsters, and are also trained in situational awareness.  They are not some dickhole wearing shorts and flip-flops in a restaurant, store, etc. with their gun jammed in a pocket or hanging from some button flap holster.  Never a good idea- especially tactically- why in the hell would anyone want to advertise they are carrying a gun unless they are retarded (certain towns and locations excepted)?

I can't speak as to why they would want to, but I support their right to do so. Even if that means they look retarded.

in the end, I have bigger issues with safety than how stupid they may look. As long as they are safe, I even support the mall ninjas. The babysitter from the earlier story... let's just say I want to do bad things to her.

[frankq]

* Let's discuss the subject, not the posters, please.  Thanks. - mmhmm, Administrator

[EVT1]

Perfect example of open carry tools ruining it for the rest of us:

practicaltacticalpodcast.com/starbucks/

Thanks idiots.

[AGB]

Aaaaaaaaaand the author lost me:

"Much like how we get irritated when the “not terrorist” muslims dont come out and outright condemn muslim terrorist acts and organizations…we are taking the same track by not raising the bullshit flag when we ought to. We have to police our own. "

Maybe we can't have nice things because "our own" have no problem comparing law abiding citizens to fucking terrorists. You have the "choice" to abort a baby, but exercise a constitutional right, and you're compared to a terrorist. 
 

[frankq]

Oct 26, 2013 14:47:52 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Perfect example of open carry tools ruining it for the rest of us:

practicaltacticalpodcast.com/starbucks/

Thanks idiots.

I have to agree here. These people are real asswipes.

[Deleted]

Oct 25, 2013 18:50:57 GMT -5 AGB said:

Oct 25, 2013 13:30:00 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

I have to agree. We should find a way to eliminate this freakish obsession some people have.

I prefer the term "dedication", thank you very much.

AGB, my "freakish obsession" statement was just a humorous poke at EVT. He takes me way too seriously sometimes. However I do believe in carrying, open and concealed, as AR law allows. I have little interest in latest stylized weapons and prefer the S/W model 60 air weight for concealed carry due to its reliability. The DW carries the same. Long arms are allowed as open carry and I have them loaded and in racks in my P/U and car. Usually one larger caliber rifle and a shotgun. The area I live in is extremely rural (think the movie deliverance) and law enforcement is strictly an after the fact report taking. The sheriffs deputies repeatedly tell people that move into the area, "you have to protect yourself, we are unable to do so".

[workpublic]

"you have to protect yourself, we are unable to do so".

when seconds count, the police are just minutes away.....

[AGB]

Oct 31, 2013 8:25:38 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Oct 25, 2013 18:50:57 GMT -5 AGB said:

I prefer the term "dedication", thank you very much.

AGB, my "freakish obsession" statement was just a humorous poke at EVT. He takes me way too seriously sometimes. However I do believe in carrying, open and concealed, as AR law allows. I have little interest in latest stylized weapons and prefer the S/W model 60 air weight for concealed carry due to its reliability. The DW carries the same. Long arms are allowed as open carry and I have them loaded and in racks in my P/U and car. Usually one larger caliber rifle and a shotgun. The area I live in is extremely rural (think the movie deliverance) and law enforcement is strictly an after the fact report taking. The sheriffs deputies repeatedly tell people that move into the area, "you have to protect yourself, we are unable to do so".

I work in education... think progressive safe haven... I've learned to take it all in good humor, and I use the same come back... I'm not obsessed, I'm just dedicated.

Truthfully though... "freakish obsession" may be spot on for me.

[EVT1]

Speaking of gun nuts- apparently Zimmerman is a horrible shot:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-wife-left-bullet-riddled-bullseye-threat-article-1.1501881

     George Zimmerman’s ugly divorce took a disturbing twist Wednesday when his estranged wife said he nailed a bullet-riddled bull’s-eye to a wall of her parents’ house.

     Shellie Zimmerman turned the marksman’s alleged target over to cops in Lake Mary, Fla., complaining it was a menacing message for her

Way to go hero.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Although it's way easier to take that lonnnnnnng jump to Conclusionville, might I suggest her story is as full of holes at that target?  From the article, which you cited, she states that she ordered him to move out of the house in August and found the target soon after he moved out.  So when?  Late August?  Early September?  She just now decides to turn it in?  I suppose the article doesn't say that she just now turned it in, but I find it difficult to believe she did this two months ago and we are just now hearing about it.  Jeez.  We hear about it when the guy goes potty.

Sorry.  The woman lacks credibility and stinks of wanting her 15 minutes.  She calls 911 and tells them he is threatening her with a gun.  Then she recants and said she never saw a gun. 

Nobody with any sense thinks this guy is a "hero".  I don't think he committed a criminal act, but I don't think he's a hero either.  Everything is not black or white.  There are 50 Shades of Gray.

[EVT1]

They both lack credibility- but I will at least take her at her word it was his target- and therefore he's a bad shot.  Better stick to contact shots at teenagers  

[Green Eyed Lady]

I agree with you.  I probably would have to look down to check if either one of them told me I was barefooted. 

[Deleted]

Nov 4, 2013 10:05:04 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Although it's way easier to take that lonnnnnnng jump to Conclusionville, might I suggest her story is as full of holes at that target?  From the article, which you cited, she states that she ordered him to move out of the house in August and found the target soon after he moved out.  So when?  Late August?  Early September?  She just now decides to turn it in?  I suppose the article doesn't say that she just now turned it in, but I find it difficult to believe she did this two months ago and we are just now hearing about it.  Jeez.  We hear about it when the guy goes potty.

Sorry.  The woman lacks credibility and stinks of wanting her 15 minutes.  She calls 911 and tells them he is threatening her with a gun.  Then she recants and said she never saw a gun. 

Nobody with any sense thinks this guy is a "hero".  I don't think he committed a criminal act, but I don't think he's a hero either.  Everything is not black or white.  There are 50 Shades of Gray.

Two old high school buddies come down here every year in July for a one week vacation with kids and grandkids. They live in the suburbs just outside of Chicago. The anti-Zimmerman propaganda was in full swing at that time and all they had to say was "someone should pin a medal on that guy". Then again they have a huge gang/crime problem in their area and are usually running scared just to go to the store in the evening.

[Shooby]

Oct 21, 2013 20:23:58 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Oct 21, 2013 9:06:45 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

You are forgetting half the population here.  I'm a petite female.  I can't fight you and win in hand-to-hand combat.  Now maybe I should go take some "kick ass" classes, but my guess is that you outweigh me by 100 pounds, are probably close to a foot taller and have 3 times my strength.  All things equal, I'm not afraid to fight, but since all things are NOT equal, I'm evening the odds.

I'm not walking through life afraid.  I'm walking through it prepared.  I know firsthand "what evil lurks in the hearts of man".  I understand and agree with most of what you said about some of this gun craziness being....crazy..., but I think you are forgetting that there are those weaker and less able to macho it though life.

I don't think evt was forgetting that, at all.  I doubt very seriously you subscribe to a magazine that promotes combat guns, GEL.  As evt made clear, there are good magazines about guns out there.  There are also magazines that appeal to the lesser amongst us.

And? What are you advocating? Censoring those kinds of magazines or what?

[Shooby]

  Yes, there are whacked out people in the world, no question.  But that has nothing to do with my right to bear arms nor should it.

[mmhmm]

Nov 6, 2013 8:27:21 GMT -5 Shooby said:

Oct 21, 2013 20:23:58 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I don't think evt was forgetting that, at all.  I doubt very seriously you subscribe to a magazine that promotes combat guns, GEL.  As evt made clear, there are good magazines about guns out there.  There are also magazines that appeal to the lesser amongst us.

And? What are you advocating? Censoring those kinds of magazines or what?

Did I say anything about censoring, Shooby?  Where did I say anything about censoring?  I'm pretty sure I didn't.  That appears to have sprung, full-grown, from your mind.

[Shooby]

  If the gun culture has "to go" where or how is it supposed to go?

[billisonboard]

Nov 6, 2013 8:32:36 GMT -5 Shooby said:

  If the gun culture has "to go" where or how is it supposed to go?

Into thin air by choice of individuals not to live it.