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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 20:01:05 GMT -5
In all fairness, it wasn't Ed who lumped all Muslims into one basket, it was krickitt. Ed specified Islamic fundamentalists which, while different, isn't really true, either. The problem is with Islamic terrorists. Not all Islamic fundamentalists are terrorists.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 20:03:15 GMT -5
Do you deny that fundamentalist muslims sanction the raping of women as a form of punishment? It's quite well documented... Where is it documented, Ed? Because certain Imams publish a fatwa of their own, doesn't mean it's acceptable to everyone; nor, does it make it the law of the land. In Egypt, the punishment for rape is 3 years to life at hard labor. If a woman is abducted, then raped, the punishment can be death.
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Post by marjar on Feb 16, 2011 20:03:28 GMT -5
mmhmm - You are correct in that an I retract my statement and I apologize to Ed.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 20:09:00 GMT -5
Heh. No problem, marjar. The way Ed words things, at times, and the subject of many of his threads would certainly give rise to the thought that he doesn't care much for Muslims.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 20:17:06 GMT -5
I can tell you for sure I don't care much for rapists, which is the subject of this thread...that I would be here arguing that point with women is stupefying, however...
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Feb 16, 2011 20:17:22 GMT -5
It was Mubarak's thugs, THE OLD EGYPT"- stupid thread!!
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 20:18:35 GMT -5
Beat it, Demtroll. Your low IQ posts are embarassing...
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Post by Loopdilou on Feb 16, 2011 20:21:46 GMT -5
Whether or not the Egyptian Branch of the Muslim Brotherhood is a fundamentalist group is also debatable.. and a large portion of Egyptians identify with them. Ed is just as guilty for lumping as krickitt is.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 20:22:35 GMT -5
I don't know anybody who does care much for rapists of any variety, Ed.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 20:23:52 GMT -5
As I said, loopy, Islamic fundamentalists aren't, necessarily, terrorists. Terrorists are the problem, and they come in all varieties, as well.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 20:58:25 GMT -5
LOL! You have called me worse or at least thought worse (and it comes through your posts). Calling me a Demtroll is practically a term of endearment coming from you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 21:09:18 GMT -5
Maybe some Demtroll could tell me where I said all Muslims are rapists??? I said what I said, posted articles to back up my posts-- I'll wait.........
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 16, 2011 21:11:31 GMT -5
Oh! Let me get this: Title of thread - "CBS Reporter becomes female of victim of "new" Egypt" - and first post is - "So it begins. A CBS reporter was beaten and raped in Cairo by a mob of Egyptians "celebrating" Mubarak's departure. Of course, this type of act is precisely how fundamentalist Islamists like the Muslim Brotherhood treat women. So all you who cheer the "revolution" in Egypt, keep in mind this is likely to be what Mubarak is replaced with." Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=3488&page=1#ixzz1EAnp1cRxShe wasn't just raped, she was raped because that's how "Islamists like the Muslim brotherhood treat women".. and that's what Egypt is now! A giant women raping country! It wasn't a workers or a women's movement (even though it was, by all accounts) - it was a rapists movement! Silly us for cheering them on. She was raped by men who were in a mob, "She wasn't just raped, she was raped because that's how "Islamists like the Muslim brotherhood treat women".. and that's what Egypt is now!" as you read that post of yours , could tell me /is/posters how you come to those conclusions.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 21:14:18 GMT -5
I don't believe anyone said you said all Islamics were rapists, krickitt. Some of us did see you lump all Islamics into one bucket, however. See post #3 on page 1, for starters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 21:16:09 GMT -5
If you guys want to continue to wear blindfolds about the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Quaida, and other fun filled extremist groups-- go ahead. They laugh at you.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 16, 2011 21:19:38 GMT -5
By the way , right now CNN , 9:45 eastern time , has a special on that is discussing US military sexual assaults in the service against their servicn members, all but mostly woman, , 16,000, 3000 rapes....Their quote, no Brother hood no Islamics , just good ol boys who are serving in ther military, one padre when went to for help, saw her assailent on post she was sent to after, said her fault, she should go back to the church.....
When reported, they know they will end their career, definitly in units , feel it's a betrayal, general conentiouse in CIB , treated differently...attitudes , feeling victems are lying ,
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 21:20:56 GMT -5
There is a difference between extremists (of any religion) and Muslims (or Christians, or Jewish people, or Hindus), Krickitt. They're not all the same. All followers of Islam are not part of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, or Al Qaida. In fact, most aren't.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 21:22:26 GMT -5
Yep, Dez. I've been reading about such cases. This happens everywhere, and is perpetrated by people from many persuasions. It's not confined to any one group, or one religion, or one nationality, that's for sure!
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 21:24:55 GMT -5
Oh, and just to clear something up, krickitt (I thought you knew); although I answered your query and cited your post to back up what I'd said, I'm not a "Demtroll". I'm not a Democrat. I'm an Independent.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2011 21:29:18 GMT -5
There is a difference between extremists (of any religion) and Muslims (or Christians, or Jewish people, or Hindus), Krickitt. They're not all the same. All followers of Islam are not part of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, or Al Qaida. In fact, most aren't. Is that like LDS vs. FLDS? Or is the FLDS simply the LDS.
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 21:32:20 GMT -5
Heh. Precisely, Tennesseer. Is a Baptist really a Presbyterian incognito? Nothing like grabbing the broadest brush you can find and going to town on the door trim, eh?
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 16, 2011 21:36:05 GMT -5
Heh. Precisely, Tennesseer. Is a Baptist really a Presbyterian incognito? Nothing like grabbing the broadest brush you can find and going to town on the door trim, eh? Well Hell I'll admit it , definitly a middle ........to the left. Hey just noticed...another star...wOW
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 21:40:41 GMT -5
I'm a left-leaning moderate, too, Dez. In some areas, I can be very conservative. Law enforcement is one of them. I tend to be fiscally conservative, to a point. Mostly, I'm socially liberal, but with exceptions, like law enforcement, the need to see that those who receive welfare really need the help and aren't just sponging off the system ... stuff like that.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 16, 2011 21:57:03 GMT -5
I'm a left-leaning moderate, too, Dez. In some areas, I can be very conservative. Law enforcement is one of them. I tend to be fiscally conservative, to a point. Mostly, I'm socially liberal, but with exceptions, like law enforcement, the need to see that those who receive welfare really need the help and aren't just sponging off the system ... stuff like that. Ditto.... That CNN report on military sexual assault AND how the military handling it...unbelievabble...
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 22:28:31 GMT -5
You wouldn't know it from reading this thread.
You nailed it, krickitt. Karma coming your way...
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 16, 2011 22:37:53 GMT -5
I'd know it quite well by reading this thread, Ed. Nobody here has condoned rape, much less expressed a liking for it. To indicate anyone has is ... well, ludicrous, to put it bluntly.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 16, 2011 22:48:08 GMT -5
All followers of Islam are not part of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, or Al Qaida. In fact, most aren't.
True, however most (if not all) followers of Islam would truly like to see the entire world be converted to their warped "religion" - agenda actually, so that is why I advocate keeping them at a safe distance and shut down encroachment such as the ground zero mosque in this predominantly Christian country.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 22:51:26 GMT -5
I agree, but once again, with the approval and support of the American left and president Obama (who cheered and supported the "revolution"), Egypt will be transitioning to a society where women have no rights, so their opinions, unfortunately, won't matter in the "new" Egypt... Eddie, If you are implying what I think you are implying, than you are simply despicable. Are you somehow trying to imply that the left wing of America indirectly "approves" of this crime simply because they are happy about the freedom revolution in Egypt? What is wrong with you? Seriously!
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 22:53:51 GMT -5
All followers of Islam are not part of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbollah, or Al Qaida. In fact, most aren't.True, however most (if not all) followers of Islam would truly like to see the entire world be converted to their warped "religion" - agenda actually, so that is why I advocate keeping them at a safe distance and shut down encroachment such as the ground zero mosque in this predominantly Christian country. Most Christians (if not all) would truly like to see the entire world converted to their religion... So what do you say to that? Why is it bad when Muslims want to convert people but not bad when Christians want to convert people?
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 16, 2011 22:54:50 GMT -5
I'd know it quite well by reading this thread, Ed. Nobody here has condoned rape, much less expressed a liking for it. To indicate anyone has is ... well, ludicrous, to put it bluntly. Amen!
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