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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 9, 2013 22:20:57 GMT -5
If you just went through a trial wouldn't you want to lay low? I would want to dissappear into obscurity ASAP. But that is not the case with Zimmerman. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 9, 2013 22:32:47 GMT -5
When I first read Shooby's comment, my first thought is it doesn't matter what I would do as
its not an issue for me. I think it can be a mistake to believe you and anyone else are necessarily going to react the same way to any situation.
We already have proof Zimmerman doesn't want to lay low and perhaps for all we know his attorney initially put that idea in his head because of that motorist he helped. Touring a gun manufacturer was a decision that pretty much guaranteed he'd remain in the media. I don't know what he's thinking, but I do believe it isn't I want to keep a low profile. |
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Post by Shooby on Sept 9, 2013 22:42:42 GMT -5
Well then he is a fool.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 9, 2013 22:46:56 GMT -5
Latest word is there was no gun. An earlier story by ABC said the gun was in Zimmerman's truck (according to the deputy police chief), not on Zimmerman. At this point, who the heck knows? At this point, there are conflicting stories. Here's the latest I've found: USA Today story |
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Post by EVT1 on Sept 10, 2013 0:51:26 GMT -5
Why would his lawyer make a statement that he was armed and had a hand on his weapon at some point? The retraction I heard was that the police didn't take it. After that trial it is pretty obvious O'Mara is not going to say something to hurt his client.
Of course the new take is that his wife is a liar as evidenced by the perjury conviction (which GZ of course had no influence on her statements) and once again GZ is the victim. He is getting really comfortable with that role.
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Post by EVT1 on Sept 10, 2013 0:59:26 GMT -5
On reading the link she changed her story- and with other reports decided to take that route after talking to her lawyer. Might be the best answer- she goes away and ends this now without some other legal problems. No matter what though- it is getting harder and harder to believe that this guy is some innocent pistol packer and he avenger of black thugs.
Also of note- her dad owns the house.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 10, 2013 6:27:51 GMT -5
Well, Mmmm, it may not even be 6 months for him. Very sad situation. I'm sure he does have a screw loose, hence getting out of his car to begin with, but now with his life in shambles, what's left for him? I'd hope DF would stand by me if I was maliciously prosecuted as well as my friends and family but who knows? No one wants to be tarred with the racism feather. I'm sure I'd freaking out all the time and who wants to deal with that?
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 10, 2013 9:33:48 GMT -5
Agreed, zib. This guy doesn't have the strength of character to have withstood everything that has happened to him. He's chasing his tail here, and he just might catch it if he doesn't get some control over himself. I've never thought racism had anything to do with what happened in Sanford. I do, however, firmly believe this guy has some very serious issues that need attention. That's what he should be doing instead of galavanting around visiting weapons manufacturers, IMO.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 10, 2013 9:41:22 GMT -5
Well, on the positive side, this could be the vehicle that gets us to another year long, 700 page Zimmerman thread.  Gah! Nooooooo! I'm pretty sure every shrink in town is booked up and has raised prices!  |
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Post by Angel! on Sept 10, 2013 16:52:05 GMT -5
Florida has some odd laws. Here they wouldn't require someone to press charges in a DV incident. The state presses the charges.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 10, 2013 18:56:27 GMT -5
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 10, 2013 19:12:53 GMT -5
That information has already been provided, paul, in a non-biased link. The matter is still under investigation and there are varying stories from different people. At this point, it isn't known whether charges will be filed. |
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Post by EVT1 on Sept 10, 2013 19:29:35 GMT -5
Ummm- his attorney says he did-or ex-attorney now. Just because it wasn't on his person when the cops showed up doesn't mean he didn't have it- did they search his car? His bodyguard? Get real- of course he was armed. www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2013/09/10/ac-zimmerman-incident.cnnHere is O'Mara- known from now on to Zimmerman supporters as just another liar- explaining it- and stating claims of no gun are false. She is probably doing the smart thing and just dropping the whole thing and getting away from him. Good plan. During a press conference following Monday's incident, O'Mara said "Pay me" when asked if he had any advice for his client, ABC reported.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2013 19:34:05 GMT -5
The next "incident" may not be as innocuous.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2013 9:35:14 GMT -5
That information has already been provided, paul, in a non-biased link. The matter is still under investigation and there are varying stories from different people. At this point, it isn't known whether charges will be filed. It's known by all those who care to take an unbiased, reasoned look at the situation. They got in an argument, she chose to leverage his notoriety to exaggerate the story and wound him in the heat of the moment. The police released him without incident, and she's back-tracking. There will be no charges filed unless she or her father-in-law whom she alleged in the 911 call, Zimmerman struck, decide to press charges. Odds are pretty good, given that she's enjoying a delicious plate of cold crow on the gun story, that the only charges that may be filed are going to be against her. Seems to me she did him a favor 'estranging' herself. |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 11, 2013 9:44:15 GMT -5
No, paul, it isn't "known". Until the investigation is complete and all the facts are out, you don't know any more than anyone else. As usual, you just think you do.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Sept 11, 2013 10:39:43 GMT -5
That information has already been provided, paul, in a non-biased link. The matter is still under investigation and there are varying stories from different people. At this point, it isn't known whether charges will be filed. It's known by all those who care to take an unbiased, reasoned look at the situation. They got in an argument, she chose to leverage his notoriety to exaggerate the story and wound him in the heat of the moment. The police released him without incident, and she's back-tracking. There will be no charges filed unless she or her father-in-law whom she alleged in the 911 call, Zimmerman struck, decide to press charges. Odds are pretty good, given that she's enjoying a delicious plate of cold crow on the gun story, that the only charges that may be filed are going to be against her. Seems to me she did him a favor 'estranging' herself. Florida law allows police officers to arrest someone for domestic violence without the consent of the victim. It will really depend on what's on that tape (if they are able to retrieve the video) before it will be determined who, if anybody, gets arrested for DV. |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 11, 2013 10:42:16 GMT -5
It's known by all those who care to take an unbiased, reasoned look at the situation. They got in an argument, she chose to leverage his notoriety to exaggerate the story and wound him in the heat of the moment. The police released him without incident, and she's back-tracking. There will be no charges filed unless she or her father-in-law whom she alleged in the 911 call, Zimmerman struck, decide to press charges. Odds are pretty good, given that she's enjoying a delicious plate of cold crow on the gun story, that the only charges that may be filed are going to be against her. Seems to me she did him a favor 'estranging' herself. Florida law allows police officers to arrest someone for domestic violence without the consent of the victim. It will really depend on what's on that tape (if they are able to retrieve the video) before it will be determined who, if anybody, gets arrested for DV. Yep. From what I can read, that's what they're waiting on, POM. They're looking for evidence that will help determine who was actually the aggressor. Then, it's up to the Attorney General's office whether to file charges. |
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 11, 2013 12:44:23 GMT -5
I hope he is forced to get counseling over this. He seriously needs it.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2013 15:07:19 GMT -5
Wisdom and good judgment are key. We don't need residential paramilitary units operating in American communities that treat 107 year olds with the same tactics used to kill Osama bin Laden in his apartment in Pakistan. We don't need police so robotic and reliant on programming that they cannot think, or function like people. So you support the judgement and wisdom a person who shoots an unarmed kid because he's a rambo wannabe but question the judgement of trained officers who had shots fired at them? I believe you've stated yourself several times that you would not hesitate to defend yourself if attacked, but you call the police robotic and reliant on programming when they react the exact same way you've stated your would. I must be missing something... BTW- if you revisit the Zimmerman thread, you will discover that I repeatedly made the point that George Zimmerman did NOT use wisdom and good judgment; AND that the whole incident might have been avoided if he had. My only point, which of course has been vindicated, is that he did not do anything criminal. And in this case, I'm not accusing the police of wrongdoing per se. I'm not calling them criminals. I'm simply questioning their judgment. Like the Zimmerman case, I think had they chosen their response more carefully, the whole situation may have been avoided. And btw- Trayvon Martin was NOT "unarmed" - in case you missed it, his weapon was an exhibit for the jury in the trial:  |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2013 16:03:10 GMT -5
107 years old, I'm surprised he had enough strength to pull the trigger. Those cops should be so proud, NOT. As for Zimmy, he has now threatened his wife and her father he hit and threatened him with a gun. I think his days are numbered. Next time he goes after someone they may be armed instead of only have skittles and a coke. Since I see you're a little behind on "Zimmy", I'll help you out- she has now backtracked, specifically, there was no gun. No one has pressed charges, not her, not her father. He has been released without incident. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 11, 2013 17:22:41 GMT -5
Who knows what we will find out? Breaking someone else's Ipad isn't really a normal, sane reaction IMO. I hope the police find something before Friday so we can discuss it.  |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 11, 2013 17:28:31 GMT -5
Don't hold your breath. Looks like it's going to be awhile. The damage to the IPad was significant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 17:49:04 GMT -5
107 years old, I'm surprised he had enough strength to pull the trigger. Those cops should be so proud, NOT. As for Zimmy, he has now threatened his wife and her father he hit and threatened him with a gun. I think his days are numbered. Next time he goes after someone they may be armed instead of only have skittles and a coke. Since I see you're a little behind on "Zimmy", I'll help you out- she has now backtracked, specifically, there was no gun. No one has pressed charges, not her, not her father. He has been released without incident. Squirmed out of another tight spot, did he? |
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Post by Opti on Sept 11, 2013 17:49:27 GMT -5
The plot thickens.
From your URL:
A friend of Zimmerman's who was there that day, Wesley Robinson, a 6-foot, 350-pound man, told police that Shellie's father went after George Zimmerman, and Robinson stepped in to separate them and restrained Dean. When he let Dean loose, he said, Dean went after George Zimmerman again.
Robinson said his forearm accidentally hit Dean in the face during the altercation.
A woman in George's truck, Samantha Scheibe, told police that there were guns in his truck but that she and George had concealed-weapons permits for them.
Sheibe, according to the report, was shaken by what had happened.
Her relationship with George Zimmerman was not immediately clear.
George does seem to have a knack for silencing things. If Shelli did hit him with the Ipad, it is illogical to smash it and pry it apart to keep her from using it to hit him on the back with .. if that is even close to true. Give it to the big 350lb. man and leave it intact.
My guess is I could do more damage to you physically witha broken Ipad than
one that was intact. IMO you destroy it because you wanted to destroy the video.
IMHO he has learned the ticket to do what he wants lies in destroying evidence that might hurt him legally.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 11, 2013 18:01:17 GMT -5
Since I see you're a little behind on "Zimmy", I'll help you out- she has now backtracked, specifically, there was no gun. No one has pressed charges, not her, not her father. He has been released without incident. Squirmed out of another tight spot, did he? Not yet, but it may take awhile to know what actually happened. It seems Mr. Zimmerman took it upon himself to destroy the IPad that was recording the incident. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 11, 2013 18:03:27 GMT -5
Since I see you're a little behind on "Zimmy", I'll help you out- she has now backtracked, specifically, there was no gun. No one has pressed charges, not her, not her father. He has been released without incident. Squirmed out of another tight spot, did he? Nah, she's just a manipulative beotch who leveraged his notoriety to cause him trouble because obviously they're getting divorced and things aren't going well. For better or for worse, our zero-tolerance for domestic violence has some side effects, and one of them is people that abuse the system for their own ends. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 11, 2013 18:04:38 GMT -5
Kind of like Zimmerman destroyed Martin-the only other person who was a complete witness to their altercation.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 11, 2013 18:04:54 GMT -5
Squirmed out of another tight spot, did he? Nah, she's just a manipulative beotch who leveraged his notoriety to cause him trouble because obviously they're getting divorced and things aren't going well. For better or for worse, our zero-tolerance for domestic violence has some side effects, and one of them is people that abuse the system for their own ends. I think I'll wait for the evidence. Thanks, anyway. |
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