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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:20:00 GMT -5
Oh please. I know the exactly slant of some one by the term used. I can define others as PRO abortion just like they csn define me as ANTI abortion rather than PRO life. I'll define you as anti-choice. That's more equitable. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:20:03 GMT -5
Oh please. I know the exactly slant of some one by the term used. I can define others as PRO abortion just like they csn define me as ANTI abortion rather than PRO life. i have not found too many "pro lifers" that are opposed to the term "anti abortion". have you? |
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Post by Shooby on Jul 2, 2013 1:20:04 GMT -5
Sorry steff ALL women are not pro abortion. That isn't the "female" voting base. SOME females not all.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:20:29 GMT -5
and they woke up the female voting base. I was also very pleased to see so many young men involved & at the hearings. They may pass the bill this week, but it won't stand the test of time & it will hurt these morons come election time. i don't think that it will last the year. it is going to get struck down, just like all of the other trap laws. Agreed, dj. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:21:00 GMT -5
Oh please. I know the exactly slant of some one by the term used. I can define others as PRO abortion just like they csn define me as ANTI abortion rather than PRO life. I'll define you as anti-choice. That's more equitable. that would be a good "tit for tat". i don't think that anti-abortion stings at all. they are, in fact, anti-abortion, after all. |
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:21:20 GMT -5
Sorry steff ALL women are not pro abortion. That isn't the "female" voting base. SOME females not all. I'd say practically NOBODY is "pro abortion". |
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Post by Shooby on Jul 2, 2013 1:21:39 GMT -5
Oh please. I know the exactly slant of some one by the term used. I can define others as PRO abortion just like they csn define me as ANTI abortion rather than PRO life. I'll define you as anti-choice. That's more equitable. [b Why do I need to be "defined ". |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:22:00 GMT -5
Sorry steff ALL women are not pro abortion. That isn't the "female" voting base. SOME females not all. i will up the ante: no women are "pro-abortion". if you think otherwise, find me one. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:22:41 GMT -5
I'll define you as anti-choice. That's more equitable. [b Why do I need to be "defined ". for propaganda reasons. you know....like "pro-abortion"? |
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:23:06 GMT -5
I'll define you as anti-choice. That's more equitable. [b Why do I need to be "defined ". Same reason you need to define others. |
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Post by Shooby on Jul 2, 2013 1:23:15 GMT -5
I would say 55 MILLIION abortions is pretty "pro".
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:24:28 GMT -5
i don't think that it will last the year. it is going to get struck down, just like all of the other trap laws. Agreed, dj. you guys can laugh at me later- everyone who disagrees- but i think this push by the GOP has an air of finality to it. it is a phyrric journey over the edge and into the abyss. |
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Post by steff on Jul 2, 2013 1:26:35 GMT -5
The article I read (and I believe I posted here) stated that only 1 in 5 voters in Texas supports this bill. THAT is what is going to cost these Republicans come election time. When Kay Baily Hutchinson is the rational Republican you know you've screwed the pooch.
And on a personal annoying note. I remember Dan Patrick when he was a sucky local tv sports reporter. He sucked then & he sucks even more now.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:27:36 GMT -5
I would say 55 MILLIION abortions is pretty "pro". That would be 55 million abortions since 1973 - 40 years. That would include abortions to save the mother's life, and abortions prior to viability. It would also include partial-birth abortions that have since been outlawed at the federal level. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:28:04 GMT -5
I would say 55 MILLIION abortions is pretty "pro". you can say whatever you like. however, i know women who have had them, and none of them did it because of any love or even LIKE of abortions. they did so because the alternative was a life of poverty for themselves and their children- or having to give up their children to someone more capable of raising them. not a single one viewed abortion as "birth control"- more like "disaster control" in all cases. but i know....children are not disasters....blah blah blah. every sperm is sacred. |
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:28:31 GMT -5
The article I read (and I believe I posted here) stated that only 1 in 5 voters in Texas supports this bill. THAT is what is going to cost these Republicans come election time. When Kay Baily Hutchinson is the rational Republican you know you've screwed the pooch. And on a personal annoying note. I remember Dan Patrick when he was a sucky local tv sports reporter. He sucked then & he sucks even more now. This thing isn't going to survive, steff. Dj is right. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:29:57 GMT -5
I would say 55 MILLIION abortions is pretty "pro". That would be 55 million abortions since 1973 - 40 years. That would include abortions to save the mother's life, and abortions prior to viability. It would also include partial-birth abortions that have since been outlawed at the federal level. about 1M were for pregnancies due to rape, if the statistics are to be believed. |
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Post by tallguy on Jul 2, 2013 1:30:24 GMT -5
Oh please. I know the exactly slant of some one by the term used. I can define others as PRO abortion just like they csn define me as ANTI abortion rather than PRO life. And we know not only the slant, but the intellectual limits of those who use the other term. I'll define you as anti-choice. That's more equitable. Unfortunately, that is technically not accurate either. They seemingly have no problem with one's choice to become pregnant, or to NOT become pregnant. It is only the outcome that they wish to dictate. |
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:30:39 GMT -5
Yep. Abortions for incest and rape would be included in those statistics.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:32:01 GMT -5
The article I read (and I believe I posted here) stated that only 1 in 5 voters in Texas supports this bill. THAT is what is going to cost these Republicans come election time. When Kay Baily Hutchinson is the rational Republican you know you've screwed the pooch. And on a personal annoying note. I remember Dan Patrick when he was a sucky local tv sports reporter. He sucked then & he sucks even more now. it would be funny if Wendy Davis ended up replacing Rick Perry. |
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:32:41 GMT -5
I'll define you as anti-choice. That's more equitable. Unfortunately, that is technically not accurate either. They seemingly have no problem with one's choice to become pregnant, or to NOT become pregnant. It is only the outcome that they wish to dictate. Oh, they've got their noses in the choice to become pregnant, or NOT become pregnant, as well. They want to have a say in the kind of birth control people practice, as well. The "morning after pill" is an abomination, don'cha know! |
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Post by steff on Jul 2, 2013 1:33:18 GMT -5
On a positive note, I'm talking with 2 friends in Texas on FB tonight. 1 is in Austin (my BFF I mentioned before) & 1 is near Nacogdoches. The friend in Nac was unable to travel to Austin because she's still recovering from cervical cancer that was diagnosed in a rural PP clinic (she's even more rabid over this than anyone else I know). Between the two of them, they had over 100 women & men in Austin protesting today.
during the conversation, we were talking about the next generation of voters. My son & 3 of his friends that are on my FB, the sons of both women & several of their friends joined in the conversation. If nothing else, we are making the next generation of young men understand just how important this issue is for women. Young women already know, it's the young men that we need to educate about it. To make sure they read, listen, research, and VOTE on issues that they might think don't affect them.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:33:29 GMT -5
The article I read (and I believe I posted here) stated that only 1 in 5 voters in Texas supports this bill. THAT is what is going to cost these Republicans come election time. When Kay Baily Hutchinson is the rational Republican you know you've screwed the pooch. And on a personal annoying note. I remember Dan Patrick when he was a sucky local tv sports reporter. He sucked then & he sucks even more now. it would be funny if Wendy Davis ended up replacing Rick Perry. I might just hop a plane and fly to Texas for that one! Hell, we could do a ROAD TRIP!  |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:35:10 GMT -5
On a positive note, I'm talking with 2 friends in Texas on FB tonight. 1 is in Austin (my BFF I mentioned before) & 1 is near Nacogdoches. . believe it or not, i know where that town is. Parker Hannafin as a seal factory there: JM Clipper brand. i talk to them 1-2x a year. |
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Post by tallguy on Jul 2, 2013 1:35:28 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that is technically not accurate either. They seemingly have no problem with one's choice to become pregnant, or to NOT become pregnant. It is only the outcome that they wish to dictate. Oh, they've got their noses in the choice to become pregnant, or NOT become pregnant, as well. They want to have a say in the kind of birth control people practice, as well. The "morning after pill" is an abomination, don'cha know! But there is always abstinence, so one does not have to become pregnant. They are fully supportive of that.  |
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:35:43 GMT -5
On a positive note, I'm talking with 2 friends in Texas on FB tonight. 1 is in Austin (my BFF I mentioned before) & 1 is near Nacogdoches. The friend in Nac was unable to travel to Austin because she's still recovering from cervical cancer that was diagnosed in a rural PP clinic (she's even more rabid over this than anyone else I know). Between the two of them, they had over 100 women & men in Austin protesting today. during the conversation, we were talking about the next generation of voters. My son & 3 of his friends that are on my FB, the sons of both women & several of their friends joined in the conversation. If nothing else, we are making the next generation of young men understand just how important this issue is for women. Young women already know, it's the young men that we need to educate about it. To make sure they read, listen, research, and VOTE on issues that they might think don't affect them. Education is certainly key, steff. My son is a Republican and a conservative, yet he is pro-choice, as are his sons. They don't figure it's up to them to decide what women they don't even know are supposed to do with their lives. |
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Post by steff on Jul 2, 2013 1:36:03 GMT -5
The article I read (and I believe I posted here) stated that only 1 in 5 voters in Texas supports this bill. THAT is what is going to cost these Republicans come election time. When Kay Baily Hutchinson is the rational Republican you know you've screwed the pooch. And on a personal annoying note. I remember Dan Patrick when he was a sucky local tv sports reporter. He sucked then & he sucks even more now. it would be funny if Wendy Davis ended up replacing Rick Perry. That first night, as I sat enraged watching it all online, I kept wondering "where's the modern day Ann Richards?". I think we found her. It also reassured me to see Cecile Richards, her daughter, speaking outside the chambers to the crowd. |
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 2, 2013 1:36:17 GMT -5
Oh, they've got their noses in the choice to become pregnant, or NOT become pregnant, as well. They want to have a say in the kind of birth control people practice, as well. The "morning after pill" is an abomination, don'cha know! But there is always abstinence, so one does not have to become pregnant. They are fully supportive of that. Oh, sure, they are! Just ask Newt Gingrich (among dozens of others)! |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2013 1:36:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that is technically not accurate either. They seemingly have no problem with one's choice to become pregnant, or to NOT become pregnant. It is only the outcome that they wish to dictate. Oh, they've got their noses in the choice to become pregnant, or NOT become pregnant, as well. They want to have a say in the kind of birth control people practice, as well. The "morning after pill" is an abomination, don'cha know! mmhmm- what are the statistics on fertility for women? iow, what % of the time is there a failure for sperm to fertilize the egg or a failure to implant? |
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Post by steff on Jul 2, 2013 1:36:57 GMT -5
On a positive note, I'm talking with 2 friends in Texas on FB tonight. 1 is in Austin (my BFF I mentioned before) & 1 is near Nacogdoches. . believe it or not, i know where that town is. Parker Hannafin as a seal factory there: JM Clipper brand. i talk to them 1-2x a year. Nacogdoches is the oldest town in Texas. My family is from right outside of there. |
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