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Post by zibazinski on May 31, 2013 8:14:11 GMT -5
Men ARE trainable. That's what DF says!
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Post by Shooby on May 31, 2013 8:14:41 GMT -5
Sometimes you just like what you like and don't like what you don't like. For DH, he is a grown up. If he doesn't want to eat broccoli , he doesn't have to. And, there are things my kids don't like. I am not going to try to make them like something. There are things i don't like and don't want to eat either. I don't see the need to force the issue.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 8:26:56 GMT -5
www.pbs.org/parents/food-and-fitness/eat-smart/win-over-picky-eaters/From the article: I don't think trying a couple of bites is enough. You would have to give kids the same food every week and require a couple of bites, for two and a half months. And THEN they are allowed to declare they don't like it. Humans are creatures of habit, and new habits aren't established in two bites. For DS, it was 4 years of trying peas. I FINALLY said "you know what? I don't like peas either!". So I make peas for DH and DD and DS and I will have something else. Sometimes there isn't enough ketchup in the world to cover up the taste of something you really can't stand (because that's my other trick -- have them dip whatever it is in ketchup and choke it down).
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Post by zibazinski on May 31, 2013 8:29:32 GMT -5
My kids would never try Thai food. Finally one night we were all starving and the Italian place had a line out the door. Thai did not. So kids went there with me because they were too hungry to wait any longer. They now refer to Thai food as Chinese food with flavor!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 8:38:09 GMT -5
Thai food is the shit! I can't believe how picky I was when I was younger. When I moved here to NJ, I discovered how much I was missing out on - good pizza, good bagels, good Chinese food, Middle Eastern food, West Indian food.... and I am the same girl who used to live on Pizza Hut and Taco Bell.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 31, 2013 8:38:44 GMT -5
DH discovered he likes sushi after impulse buying some at Hy-Vee (they have a fresh sushi station). I went along and tried the veggie rolls. Pretty good. Even Gwen ate them, but she dissected it first. Found a new favorite vegetable, aparagus, after getting some for free from BIL's garden. I think you can change/retrain your palette to an extent over time. If all you eat is tater tot casserole I think there is room for expansion/retraining. I already eat a pretty varied diet so if I don't eat an egg as long as I live it's not worth worrying about. I think picky is a spectrum. I have people tell me I am picky because I don't eat the cream soup/salt/fat/diary laden stuff at church socials when we get dragged to them. Uh no . .I just don't do processed soup casseroles. Just because I don't eat what you like doesn't make me picky. Then there is DH's niece who only eats hot dogs, boxed mac&cheese and Chef Boyardee. That's a pretty limited diet.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 8:40:45 GMT -5
THAT's what I'll pick up for DS's lunch/dinner - thanks DQ! I'll see if he likes it. If he doesn't, I guess I'll just have to eat it...
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 9:03:31 GMT -5
For DS, it was 4 years of trying peas. I FINALLY said "you know what? I don't like peas either!". So I make peas for DH and DD and DS and I will have something else. My mother, who's a very good cook but took Home Ec in the late 1940s, used to serve canned peas. We hated them but you had to eat one for each year of your age. I still hate canned peas but they're fine frozen or fresh out of the pod off the vine. Fortunately, Mom was an early adapter of stir-frying. She used her electric frying pan but when I saw what vivid colors the veggies were I thought she'd used artificial coloring! She definitely went beyond what she learned in Home Ec.
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Post by thyme4change on May 31, 2013 9:33:08 GMT -5
I don't really care for much that comes out of a can. Almost no vegetables. I will creamed corn out of a can. I buy cans of soup, which I don't love, but sometimes I only have 3 minutes to cook dinner, so it is what it is. I do eat beans out of a can, I think I like the salt . I keep cans of tuna in the house, but other than that - I really don't like canned food. My MIL serves canned vegetables and they make me want to gag. My kids won't eat them. They are used to fresh vegetables cooked very lightly. Sometimes my MIL will tell us to come over so we can open her fresh canned green beans (fresh from her garden, then you cook the shit out of them, and put them in one of those jelly jars and following the canning process.) Ugh - the worst. Why ruin a perfectly cromulant green bean by doing that?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 31, 2013 9:42:21 GMT -5
I'm on page 2 and getting caught up. I do not want to deal with battles over food. My kids are 5 and 3.5. If they don't like what was made for dinner, they can have pb&j or a yogurt after trying the meal. We don't do after dinner snacks (at least while the kids are up ) and dessert is on the rare side. And both of them will love something one night and loathe it the next. So frustrating but I know they're trying to show independence and it's not a reflection on my cooking or even the food item. But the whiney "I don't like this" drives me insane.
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Post by doxieluvr on May 31, 2013 10:39:29 GMT -5
BTW, doxie what is it that you actually LIKE to do? I mean, you don't like to cook, clean, do home repairs, etc. What do you actually like to do and what is it you do while being a SAHM? I like to play with the kids, read, play games on the Internet, read forums, go to the pool, ride atvs, go to car shows, vacation, hang with friends, gardening, etc. i find no joy in cleaning or cooking. Laundry falls in that category as well. I do the chores because it has to be done. I do cook more meals with dh working so much. But if he is home he would rather do it. He finds joy in cooking, likes spices and trying to get seasoning right. I do not. Cooking to me is torture and I just want to be done with it. I do not find joy in food. I have never been a huge fan of eating in general. I have gotten better over the years. I do not like most foods and after preparing something, I am generally fed up with seeing it and do not even want to try it. Same with sewing. My mom tried to teach me, but If I made something, by the time it was finished I hated the sight of it and banished it to a closet.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 31, 2013 10:45:28 GMT -5
I don't really care for much that comes out of a can. Almost no vegetables. I will creamed corn out of a can. I buy cans of soup, which I don't love, but sometimes I only have 3 minutes to cook dinner, so it is what it is. I do eat beans out of a can, I think I like the salt . I keep cans of tuna in the house, but other than that - I really don't like canned food.
I can count the number of foods on one hand that I will eat out of a can. Tomatoes, beans (chick peas, cannellini, kidney, etc.), chicken stock, some soups. That's it. I'd love to the chicken stock.....I make better.....but I don't make it that regularly and we don't have the freezer space for the amount I use in cooking.
Growing up, we had a lot of veggies out of a can, but these days almost 90% of what I eat is fresh. I keep a couple of packages in the freezer of veggies for specific purposes, pearl onions, artichokes, some sort of mixed veggies and peas.
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Post by thyme4change on May 31, 2013 10:51:17 GMT -5
When my son was 3, I bought one of those ham steaks and a can of sweet potatoes, threw it in a dish and put it in the oven until it was warm. (It was a busy time for us.) When he asked what was for dinner I knew if I said Ham and sweet potatoes both my kids would shut down. So I said "Ohhhh - we are having the best dinner EVER - Hammy-Yammy." The kids got really excited and were jumping up and down about Hammy-Yammy. To this day, it is one of their favorite meals. Never underestimate the power of marketing.
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Post by formerroomate99 on May 31, 2013 10:58:07 GMT -5
So basically, Doxie wants to play and will botch any job she really doesn't want to do, even if it means her children get the shaft. Is anyone suprised by this?
I learned how to cook out of necessity. My parents were out of town for my father's cancer treatment. The folks I was staying with wouldn't pick me up until 8pm and most of the food they had was either inedible or ran afoul of my many food allergies. So it was either eat dinner at home or wait until 8pm and hope it wouldn't make me physically sick. After a while, I ran out of pot pies and frozen pizzas and had to figure out how to make stuff from whatever happend to be in the kitchen. No fond memories of mommy teaching me how to cook (she was a terrible cook anyway.) Just a sad preteen girl doing what she had to do. I don't find joy in cooking or eating either. Frankly, I hate to cook. But since I don't want to be fat and in debt, I bite the bullet and do what I have to do. This is what adults do.
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Post by Shooby on May 31, 2013 10:58:42 GMT -5
BTW, doxie what is it that you actually LIKE to do? I mean, you don't like to cook, clean, do home repairs, etc. What do you actually like to do and what is it you do while being a SAHM? I like to play with the kids, read, play games on the Internet, read forums, go to the pool, ride atvs, go to car shows, vacation, hang with friends, gardening, etc. i find no joy in cleaning or cooking. Laundry falls in that category as well. I do the chores because it has to be done. I do cook more meals with dh working so much. But if he is home he would rather do it. He finds joy in cooking, likes spices and trying to get seasoning right. I do not. Cooking to me is torture and I just want to be done with it. I do not find joy in food. I have never been a huge fan of eating in general. I have gotten better over the years. I do not like most foods and after preparing something, I am generally fed up with seeing it and do not even want to try it. Same with sewing. My mom tried to teach me, but If I made something, by the time it was finished I hated the sight of it and banished it to a closet. Doxie - I guess what i am saying is maybe you should try to approach these things with a new attitude. That it is a privilege to be able to SERVE your family. Yeah, lots of things are drudgery but i find the real key is the mindset with which i approach doing it. Instead of telling yourself you have "no joy" in food, well maybe YOU don't, but what about your kids or DH? Why not take your kids and go take a cooking class together and start doing cooking related things that are positive that might create a more positive mindset in your mind? For my kids, instead of buying them a birthday cake, i started making a two layer round cake from a box and decorating it and yeah, it was no prize to look at but it makes my kids feel special that i personally bake the cake they want. They get to pick out the kind and the icing. And, you can buy some of those candy decorations, etc.
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Post by swasat on May 31, 2013 10:59:27 GMT -5
BTW, doxie what is it that you actually LIKE to do? I mean, you don't like to cook, clean, do home repairs, etc. What do you actually like to do and what is it you do while being a SAHM? I like to play with the kids, read, play games on the Internet, read forums, go to the pool, ride atvs, go to car shows, vacation, hang with friends, gardening, etc. i find no joy in cleaning or cooking. Laundry falls in that category as well. I do the chores because it has to be done. I do cook more meals with dh working so much. But if he is home he would rather do it. He finds joy in cooking, likes spices and trying to get seasoning right. I do not. Cooking to me is torture and I just want to be done with it. I do not find joy in food. I have never been a huge fan of eating in general. I have gotten better over the years. I do not like most foods and after preparing something, I am generally fed up with seeing it and do not even want to try it. Same with sewing. My mom tried to teach me, but If I made something, by the time it was finished I hated the sight of it and banished it to a closet. Too bad you divorced your ex and ended up with boytoy. Looks like your sole ambition in life should have been "Find and stay with a rich husband who can fulfill my desires of being a mooch" You laziness is outstanding!!
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Post by Shooby on May 31, 2013 11:03:00 GMT -5
I think Rob Kardashian is still single!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 11:41:46 GMT -5
I’m a picky eater, but more of a “functional picky” in that I can generally eat things if I need to (at someone’s house for dinner) and I eat fruits/veggies. Growing up, I’d rather just scarf something down and leave rather than sit at the table while I finished. My brother was one who whined about eating and would go through great lengths to avoid eating…he would eat a piece of chicken and then spit it out in his milk as he took a drink.
My son takes after me, but he’s like 100x worse. He’s more of a “drinker” than an eater so I have to keep that in mind….for him to get fruits/veggies, I bought a juicer and juice that stuff up and give it to him (mixed with Orange Juice). For food, here is what he eats:
Plain Noodles Chicken fingers yogurt apples bananas crackers cheerios peaches oranges
The big problem is that he has a hard time deviating from what he knows…..he was so stuck on a certain type of noodles htat he wouldn’t eat plain noodles that were a different shape.
Our strategy has been to slowly introduce the change. He liked a certain type of noodle, so we stopped buying it and switched noodles on him. He liked a certain type of chicken finger, so we stopped buying it.
We’ll see…little better than before, but he’s not dramatically altering his food choices.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 12:03:33 GMT -5
Doxie - I guess what i am saying is maybe you should try to approach these things with a new attitude. That it is a privilege to be able to SERVE your family. Yeah, lots of things are drudgery but i find the real key is the mindset with which i approach doing it. My dear grandmother, God rest her soul, was a mediocre cook and not the greatest housekeeper. She'd buy frozen pies and somehow manage to scorch them on the bottom when she heated them up. As a child I asked my mother why I had to make my bed when Grandma left hers unmade sometimes and she said Grandma could do that because all the bedrooms were upstairs so guests wouldn't notice. Still, she never complained. She loved my grandfather, and his job was to make the money and her job was to take care of the kids and the house. We all like activities such as going on vacations, reading, posting on Internet bulletin boards, and going to the pool but part of being an adult is realizing that whether you're a stay-at-home spouse or you have a career outside the house, there will be things you have to do that don't give you joy but need to be done anyway. I have a SAH husband and, while I feel a bit envious every weekday morning when the alarm goes off and he can sleep and I gotta get up and get my carcass into work, I'm sure he gets no joy in housework, either, but he does it (better than my grandmother) and we're happy with how we share responsibilities.
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Post by doxieluvr on May 31, 2013 12:26:28 GMT -5
I am not a sahm. I am just on a sabbatical until I find a job.
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Post by swasat on May 31, 2013 12:30:19 GMT -5
I am not a sahm. I am just on a sabbatical until I find a job. And I am a princess. I am just pretending to be a commoner till I find my Prince Charming to come rescue me.
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Post by sheilaincali on May 31, 2013 14:05:02 GMT -5
I didn't realize that Sabbatical was the new term for Unemployed. I can't wait to tell people when I have to lay them off that they should really look at it as a sabbatical not a job loss.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 31, 2013 15:48:37 GMT -5
Hmm, the use of sabbatical in the professional sense is that you are honing a new skill in another location in order to enhance your career. And I have never heard of anyone collecting unemployment while on their sabbatical.
So Doxie....what new skills are you acquiring to enhance exactly WHAT career?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 31, 2013 15:51:00 GMT -5
Hmm, the use of sabbatical in the professional sense is that you are honing a new skill in another location in order to enhance your career
One of my PI's is on sabbatical this summer. Wonder if he's playing on his I-phone all day.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on May 31, 2013 16:41:19 GMT -5
Easy there swasat...
...:::"’m a picky eater, but more of a “functional picky” in that I can generally eat things if I need to...":::...
I like the term "functional picky". I think its one thing to be picky, but at least be able to choke something down and be polite at others' houses. Some people are good at that, others aren't.
Its a challenge dealing with folks who are "fashionably picky". The ones who want the wait staff to ask the chef to detail every single ingredient in a certain dish.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 31, 2013 17:09:11 GMT -5
I am not a sahm. I am just on a sabbatical until I find a job. No, you're either a SAHM, or unemployed (or both). In order to be on sabbatical, you have to first be working. A sabbatical means taking a break from a job you already have and are planning on returning to.
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Post by mmhmm on May 31, 2013 17:24:52 GMT -5
So basically, Doxie wants to play and will botch any job she really doesn't want to do, even if it means her children get the shaft. Is anyone suprised by this? I learned how to cook out of necessity. My parents were out of town for my father's cancer treatment. The folks I was staying with wouldn't pick me up until 8pm and most of the food they had was either inedible or ran afoul of my many food allergies. So it was either eat dinner at home or wait until 8pm and hope it wouldn't make me physically sick. After a while, I ran out of pot pies and frozen pizzas and had to figure out how to make stuff from whatever happend to be in the kitchen. No fond memories of mommy teaching me how to cook (she was a terrible cook anyway.) Just a sad preteen girl doing what she had to do. I don't find joy in cooking or eating either. Frankly, I hate to cook. But since I don't want to be fat and in debt, I bite the bullet and do what I have to do. This is what adults do. I'm the same, formerroomate. My mother couldn't cook well, either. She did so, but she wasn't very good at it. My dad, on the other hand, liked to cook but he wasn't a good teacher - far too impatient. To this day I really detest cooking, and I'm not all that interested in eating. I do both because they have to be done and, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to put out the effort to do it well.
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Post by mmhmm on May 31, 2013 17:28:15 GMT -5
I am not a sahm. I am just on a sabbatical until I find a job. Doxie, let's own up here. You're unemployed. That translates to out of work. That means you don't have a job. You can't be on sabbatical if you don't have a job. You can, however, hang out at home doing as little as possible about looking for a job, taking care of your home and family, and bettering yourself at your own expense instead of the expense of others. Some make that choice. The vast majority of those end up regretting it.
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Post by Shooby on Jun 1, 2013 7:18:01 GMT -5
I thought Doxie hated working so now she is just waiting for a job? Uh, ok. I thought she had a job not too long ago? What happened with that?
As mmhmm said, life is about choices. If you want to be remembered as a person who didn't accomplish much in life and never bothered to put herself out for others, then you can. And, you are teaching your children the exact same message. By pretending to be "incompetent" at basically everything, you are teaching them to use this as excuse to not achieve and accomplish as well. My dd was very proud of herself for cooking me breakfast all by herself on Mother's Day. If you rob your children of the joy and pride of accomplishment and teaching them that they can be skilled at a variety of things you are setting them up to depend on others to do those things for them and not setting them on the right path in life.
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